Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-25 Thread P.J. Alling
On 10/25/2015 10:59 AM, John wrote: On 10/24/2015 1:03 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:10:12AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: Has anybody commented on the "crop" setting on the top right center dial? I'm guessing that this is a way to keep DA lenses relevant on the Full Frame.

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-25 Thread John
On 10/24/2015 1:03 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:10:12AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: Has anybody commented on the "crop" setting on the top right center dial? I'm guessing that this is a way to keep DA lenses relevant on the Full Frame. I'd have thought that the camera

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread John
On 10/23/2015 2:39 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Here's a different URL in case the previous link was broken Is that a 'green button' on the rear panel?? There's a button there, and it appears to be green to me. -- Science - Questions we may never find

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread P.J. Alling
On 10/24/2015 1:03 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:10:12AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: Has anybody commented on the "crop" setting on the top right center dial? I'm guessing that this is a way to keep DA lenses relevant on the Full Frame. I'd have thought that the camera would

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread Darren Addy
Has anybody commented on the "crop" setting on the top right center dial? I'm guessing that this is a way to keep DA lenses relevant on the Full Frame. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:29 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > We don't know that for sure yet, Ricoh isn't saying and the

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:10:12AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: > Has anybody commented on the "crop" setting on the top right center dial? > I'm guessing that this is a way to keep DA lenses relevant on the Full Frame. I'd have thought that the camera would know when a crop-factor lens was mounted;

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread P.J. Alling
We don't know that for sure yet, Ricoh isn't saying and the camera was only available under glass. The green button was available on the PZ-1 and it had an aperture simulator, so that's not evidence. Time will tell. Based on the visible user interface, the dedicated record button for movies

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: >On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:10:12AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: >> Has anybody commented on the "crop" setting on the top right center dial? >> I'm guessing that this is a way to keep DA lenses relevant on the Full Frame. > >I'd have thought that the camera would know when a

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread P.J. Alling
I think Nikon puts an IR remote sensor on the back of some of it's select models, maybe Canon does too. I'd consider it a Pro feature especially as one wouldn't want to comprimise the weather sealing to use a wired remote in some circumstances. On 10/23/2015 7:23 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: IR

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/10/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >(I used a >fill-frame Sony for years but never tried an APS-C format lens on it.) You just got a message telling you to walk forwards ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-24 Thread Darren Addy
I've seen it suggested that the top right center dial might have something to do with a a hybrid EVF overlay, but it seems like kind of a crazy idea to me (then again, I know nothing about EVFs or how that might work). On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Mark Roberts

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks for the links. Yep. Green button. I like the infrared panel on the back also. Don't need it on the front unless putting yourself in the picture. But firing the camera from a remote without touching the camera is important for PSR, or long exposure times. I'm guessing that the unmarked

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread P.J. Alling
Is that hat starting to look mighty tasty? On 10/23/2015 2:33 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread Bill
On 10/23/2015 12:39 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Here's a different URL in case the previous link was broken Is that a 'green button' on the rear panel?? It appears that the aperture stimulator is gone forever. So it goes. One hopes the redundant ISO

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote: >On 10/23/2015 12:39 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> Here's a different URL in case the previous link was broken >> >> >> >> Is that a 'green button' on the rear panel?? > >It appears that the aperture stimulator is gone forever. That's what Don

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 23/10/15, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Is that hat starting to look mighty tasty? It could still all go (anatomy-selection-of-your-choice/plural)-up. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread Stanley Halpin
IR sensor in the front is not just for selfies. It is also quite useful when doing macros, e.g. when handholding a remote flash to provide backlighting to a flower. Agree that the IR sensor on the back is a good feature, a carryover from earlier models. stan > On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:56 PM,

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread Stanley Halpin
One other observation and then I’ll go back to my cave… No pop-up flash. So as with the K-3ii they chose built in GPS/Astrotracer over built-in remote-flash trigger. stan > On Oct 23, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Stanley Halpin > wrote: > > IR sensor in the front is not

Re: Full Frame Fresh Pics

2015-10-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
Here's a different URL in case the previous link was broken Is that a 'green button' on the rear panel?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm an outlier then. Wouldn't be the first time. :) I bought the 645Z and the two available non-screwdrive lenses, as I much prefer those. I also prefer lenses developed specifically for digital. Sure it almost doubled the body cost, but it's still _way_ cheaper than any other digital medium

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Stanley Halpin Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:53:00 -0700 wrote: I have to disagree with both of you on this point. The 645D and 645Z would have had virtually no market as a camera body on its own. It takes lenses to complement the body to create a camera .system.. Without screw-drive focusing (and

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread Darren Addy
I'm sure that a lot of people also bought the Pentax 645d/z system who never owned legacy lenses. This is because Pentax really lowered the price of entry to a medium format body over the competition. That 25mm is the lens I would lust after the most for my supercell photography. WOW what I

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread Darren Addy
I was unaware of that, but read some threads after you posted. It sounds like there were multiple issues with that lens. A few people said it wasn't sharp. Others said it was. (That seems to indicate some QC issues). Saw a couple of people saying that the company that produced the front lens

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Darren, any idea why they discontinued the 25mm? Seems like the entirely wrong thing to do considering how few new lenses there are for the 645d/z system. Did it prove to be not cost-effective to manufacture? On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > I'm sure

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread jtainter
"The whole point of the 645D and 645Z was to provide legacy Pentax 645 customers with something to do with their existing lens investment." Okay, call me cynical, but I suspect that "the whole point" of these cameras was to make money. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Igor PDML-StR wrote: >Stanley Halpin Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:53:00 -0700 wrote: > >> but lenses that are manual-focus only are so last century! > >MARK! Manual-focus lenses are making something of a comeback now, as they are preferred for video shooting by those seriously into video. -- Mark

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows On 9/25/2015 3:24 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 25 Sep 2015, at 19:18, Darren Addy <pi

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread steve harley
On 2015-09-24 16:54 , Bill wrote: but I really can't see dropping screw drive AF as being a smart move for the company. leaving the 50 & 100mm macros behind, which are fundamental to a good lens line-up, would be really stupid; it's only the fact i have a DFA 100mm macro already that would

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread mike wilson
On 25 September 2015 at 14:40, Collin B wrote: >> God, what a bunch of whiners we have here. It was 20 YEARS after the >>introduction of the "A" series lenses that comp ability with K and M >>lenses was compromised. Now some people are worrying that screw drive >>AF will

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
I agree with Stan. The whole point of the 645D and 645Z was to provide legacy Pentax 645 customers with something to do with their existing lens investment. This is one of the reasons that I *love* the Pentax philosophy: To provide (virtually always) backwards compatiblility. NO other camera

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 25 Sep 2015, at 19:18, Darren Addy wrote: > > If I've learned one thing from being on Flickr it is that FAR more > people will "Favorite" a photo as compared to actually COMMENT on it. > The two are not mutually exclusive, but the person that does BOTH is > even rarer.

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Stanley Halpin
I have to disagree with both of you on this point. The 645D and 645Z would have had virtually no market as a camera body on its own. It takes lenses to complement the body to create a camera “system.” Without screw-drive focusing (and thus compatibility with two handfuls of prime and zoom

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
If I've learned one thing from being on Flickr it is that FAR more people will "Favorite" a photo as compared to actually COMMENT on it. The two are not mutually exclusive, but the person that does BOTH is even rarer. I find it kind of sad, and so I appreciate the person to puts forth the thought

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/9/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >The days of mechanical aperture control are also numbered - electronic >control certainly has to be in the plans somewhere - but there will >need to be some kind of interim with compatibility. Tales of the >demise of screw drive in the new

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread P.J. Alling
On 9/25/2015 3:24 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 25 Sep 2015, at 19:18, Darren Addy wrote: If I've learned one thing from being on Flickr it is that FAR more people will "Favorite" a photo as compared to actually COMMENT on it. The two are not mutually exclusive, but the

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
jtainter wrote: >Re: "Now, I'm wondering if the putative Full-Frame DSLR is even going to have >the drive thingy to focus my legacy AF lenses?" > >Given that there are several shaft-drive lenses in production, the full-framer >will have both focusing systems. > >However, there are two things to

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-25 Thread Collin B
> God, what a bunch of whiners we have here. It was 20 YEARS after the >introduction of the "A" series lenses that comp ability with K and M >lenses was compromised. Now some people are worrying that screw drive >AF will disappear overnight. > >-- >Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread P.J. Alling
One thing I hope it has is an aperture ring, one thing I hope it doesn't have is focus and or zoom by wire. Unfortunately I expect that it won't have the former, and might have the latter. On 9/24/2015 11:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A new D-FA 24-70mm f/2.8 is apparently on the way.

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote: >One thing I hope it has is an aperture ring, one thing I hope it doesn't >have is focus and or zoom by wire. Unfortunately I expect that it won't >have the former, and might have the latter. Aperture rings are gone forever. And it does have ultrasonic focusing.

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Modern Olympus lenses are without aperture rings as well. Panasonic implements an aperture ring on some, not all, of their FT and mFT lenses; it is an electrically sensed control that is ignored on Olympus bodies. G On Sep 24, 2015, at 9:49 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread John
On 9/24/2015 11:40 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: One thing I hope it has is an aperture ring, one thing I hope it doesn't have is focus and or zoom by wire. Unfortunately I expect that it won't have the former, and might have the latter. On 9/24/2015 11:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A new D-FA 24-70mm

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote: >We could hope, but, remember back before Hoya, Pentax's first DSLR >didn't have a convenient way to use Legacy (i.e. vanilla K and M mount), >lenses. They didn't institute the Green Button kludge until after the >shitstorm raised by disgruntled users more or less forced

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think you're right about it being a firmware upgrade. You might have beat me by a day or two on that first istD. :-) Paul via phone > On Sep 24, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Bill wrote: > >> On 24/09/2015 4:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> The istD had the green button

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread P.J. Alling
We could hope, but, remember back before Hoya, Pentax's first DSLR didn't have a convenient way to use Legacy (i.e. vanilla K and M mount), lenses. They didn't institute the Green Button kludge until after the shitstorm raised by disgruntled users more or less forced them to create a software

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
The istD had the green button kludge. I used it often in those days because I owned mainly K and M42 lenses. I still use them occasionally on the K3. The kludge works well. Paul via phone > On Sep 24, 2015, at 5:45 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > We could hope, but,

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Bill
On 24/09/2015 3:45 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: However if they do leave out the screwdrive focusing motor at this point it's likely to be a fatal mistake for the brand. For myself, dropping the screw drive wouldn't be a really, really big deal as I now only have the three Limited lenses and an

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Bill
On 24/09/2015 4:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The istD had the green button kludge. That came with (I believe) the first firmware update. When the istD was introduced, it didn't support non A lenses beyond unmetered manual. I believe I had the first istD of anyone on the PDML. -- PDML

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Bill
On 24/09/2015 4:38 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: We could hope, but, remember back before Hoya, Pentax's first DSLR didn't have a convenient way to use Legacy (i.e. vanilla K and M mount), lenses. They didn't institute the Green Button kludge until after the shitstorm raised by

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Bill wrote: > On 24/09/2015 4:38 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> P.J. Alling wrote: >> >>> We could hope, but, remember back before Hoya, Pentax's first DSLR >>> didn't have a convenient way to use Legacy (i.e. vanilla K and M mount),

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Since they kept the line of Limited Primes (as well as other successful designs, such as DFA 100/2.8 and 50/2.8 Macros, and some FA primes), - I'd asssume, the answer to your question is "Yes". Igor John Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:43:24 -0700 wrote: Now, I'm wondering if the putative Full-Frame

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread jtainter
P.S. The lens is a Tamron design, but it will have Pentax coatings. The Tamron has gotten mixed reviews. It is excellent at wide angle, but at mid focal lengths it needs to be stopped down. It seems to me that mid focal lengths are where this lens would get a lot of use. Apparently it did not

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
It is "an optimized" Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 DI VC USD Lens except no VC and Pentax coatings. It is a well regarded lens, optically (ironically an old, respected Pentax lens designer that Hoya dismissed is one of it's designers). It is Tamron driven (ultrasonic). According to Asahi Man the old

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread P.J. Alling
On 9/24/2015 12:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Aperture rings are gone forever. And it does have ultrasonic focusing. Tell that to Fuji, Olympus, and Leica, (OK so Leica is just trolling). Ultrasonic doesn't necessarily imply focus by wire so it might not have that. The new 18-50 collapsible

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote: >On 9/24/2015 12:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> Aperture rings are gone forever. And it does have ultrasonic focusing. > >Tell that to Fuji, Olympus, and Leica, (OK so Leica is just trolling). I mean for Pentax. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >Even the 645Z has screwdrive AF. If anything could have stood a >compatibility removal, it's that. Yep. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread jtainter
Re: "Now, I'm wondering if the putative Full-Frame DSLR is even going to have the drive thingy to focus my legacy AF lenses?" Given that there are several shaft-drive lenses in production, the full-framer will have both focusing systems. However, there are two things to consider. Firstly, all

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Sorry, Dan, My reference wasn't about politics, but rather was intended to help Cotty in his preparations. In the past 10-20 years, there've been several clo... "entertainers" playing big politics around the world: Vladimir Zhirinovsky in Russia, Mara Carfagna in Italy, now D.T. here, in the

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Please, Igor, the media deluge of trump images and stories is overwhelming. I can't take any more. I'm convinced that The Donald wants to put the country through bankruptcy, because he has figured out some way to profit from it. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/9/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >Nothing like spring felt roasted slowly on a BBQ I'm more your denim type -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-19 Thread John
On 9/18/2015 1:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 18/9/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: What's the 'eat before' date on hats? 2026, never mind 2016. Cotty's going to starve waiting for Pentax at this

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:04 PM, John wrote: > On 9/18/2015 1:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> >>> On 18/9/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> What's the 'eat before' date

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-18 Thread Darren Addy
The October announcement should include some specs. The Spring timing of the actual release makes it almost a certainty that the camera will have the same 42MP sensor as the A7r II, and put to bed the 36MP thoughts. That would give Sony an 8 to 10 month lead time offering a camera with a sensor

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-18 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015, at 05:45 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/pentax-full-frame-to-launch-in-spring-2016.html Apparently some official details on camera specs in early October. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western

RE: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brian Walters wrote: > Apparently some official details on camera specs in early October. Didn't they announce recently that some of their new lenses were being delayed as well? If so, this isn't a great surprise. There have been some stunning new FF cameras launched recently, and I fear the

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 18/9/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> What's the 'eat before' date on hats? > > 2026, never mind 2016. Cotty's going to starve waiting for Pentax at this rate... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 18 Sep 2015, at 09:12, Brian Walters wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015, at 05:45 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: >> http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/pentax-full-frame-to-launch-in-spring-2016.html > > > Apparently some official details on camera specs in

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR
They are waiting for Cotty to bake his hat properly... @Cotty: You might get a hint from this "trumppet": https://www.youtube.com/v/DuAbBBon7bM?start=114=140 Cheers, Igor Brian Walters Fri, 18 Sep 2015 01:13:16 -0700 wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2015, at 05:45 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

Re: Full Frame delayed to Spring 2016

2015-09-18 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/9/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >What's the 'eat before' date on hats? 2026, never mind 2016. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-19 Thread P.J. Alling
I believe the proper way to express that thought would be; Blessed are those who expect nothing, for they will not be disappointed. Pessimists are always disappointed. On 2/18/2015 1:40 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her guiding philosophy

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-19 Thread Miserere
I probably would. Is she single? Don't tell my wife! Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 18 February 2015 at 13:40, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I believe you would get along

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-18 Thread Miserere
On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: What in the world is ugly about it? Everything? Yeah, I think everything. Well, I do like the colour. That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-18 Thread Darren Addy
I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her guiding philosophy seems to be: Blessed are the pessimistic, for they shall not be disappointed. :) On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 February 2015 at 17:16, Darren Addy

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
Only an optimist could have written that. I always expect things to turn out badly, so I'm always disappointed when they go well, and more disappointed when they're even worse than I expected. Nothing is ever exactly as bad as I thought it would be. That might cheer me up a bit. I'd say

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark!!! On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I believe you would get along well with my mother, Miserere. Her guiding philosophy seems to be: Blessed are the pessimistic, for they shall not be disappointed. :) On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Miserere

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-18 Thread Jack Davis
Last message I received was at 11:52AM today. Jack - Original Message - From: Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:50:27 AM Subject: Re: Full Frame Confused Only an optimist could have written that. I always

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote: I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell. Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers? Odd. I really like the look of the new camera. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-13 Thread Darren Addy
I'm with Mark. If anything is fugly it is the hump on the K-3 that is basically just for a headphone jack. But it isn't anything to get in a kerfuffle over. Form follows function. The only design problem I ever had with Pentax was their weird prism housing on the K-30 with looks like some

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-13 Thread Darren Addy
What in the world is ugly about it? That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter: http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/F117BankingHardLeft10oClock.jpg It is only slightly taller, and I think the design has elements that are reminiscent of the 67ii.

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-13 Thread Miserere
I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell. Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers? Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 12 February 2015 at 10:23, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-13 Thread Larry Colen
Miserere wrote: I'm with you, Cotty; I found it fugly as hell. Did they fire the K-3/5/7 designers? They are in dire straits in this situation between losing customers and potential customers over lack of an upgrade path to a Full! Frame! Sensor! and Osborneing themselves because too many

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-13 Thread P.J. Alling
I was always more taken by the original 6x7 looks, the 67II looks too blccky, on the other hand I'd much rather own a 67II for the functionality. On 2/13/2015 5:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote: What in the world is ugly about it? That prism housing remind me of a Stealth Fighter:

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't care what it looks like if it fits my hand and is hefty enough to balance substantial glass. I doubt that I'll be an early adapter, but I suspect some of my clients will like those huge files, so I'll be on board at some point. And I can't resist new toys. Paul via phone On Feb 13,

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-12 Thread John
On 2/12/2015 10:23 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly object! http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8579230519/cp-2015-up-close-and-personal-with-ricoh-full-frame-mockup And is it Ricoh or Pentax?? Looks to me like it has a lot of the

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-12 Thread Bryan Jacoby
if it were just a solid block - non functional. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Full Frame Confused I hope that's not the final design, the tilt screen needs to be better

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-12 Thread Bill
On 12/02/2015 2:54 PM, Ken Waller wrote: It seems to me that what was shown is obviously a mock up/early prototype - notice the lack of labeling on the controls, the black flash shoe etc. Wouldn't suprise me if it were just a solid block - non functional. I expect it's generated from a 3D

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-12 Thread Ken Waller
Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Full Frame Confused I hope that's not the final design, the tilt screen needs to be better integrated into the body, and it doesn't say anything on the back... Maybe it will someday. On 2/12/2015 11:02 AM, Zos Xavius

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-12 Thread Zos Xavius
Well the label says Pentax on the front and back of the camera, so its a Pentax! I think its beautiful. Also: never say never ;) On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: I think that my hat's going to give me indigestion. What a ghastly object!

Re: Full Frame Confused

2015-02-12 Thread P.J. Alling
I hope that's not the final design, the tilt screen needs to be better integrated into the body, and it doesn't say anything on the back... Maybe it will someday. On 2/12/2015 11:02 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Well the label says Pentax on the front and back of the camera, so its a Pentax! I

Re: Full Frame DSLR and FF zoom lenses

2015-02-05 Thread P.J. Alling
The concept looks like a blocky throwback to the 6x7 gestalt. I was kind of hoping it would look more like a MZ-S. On 2/4/2015 5:40 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3071796575/ricoh-announces-development-of-long-awaited-full-frame-pentax-dslr

Re: Full frame the wait is over

2015-02-04 Thread J C OConnell
I wonder if this announcement is going to affect this years sales of the K-3??? jco On 2/4/2015 9:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm surprised that the ever-astute Pentax marketing department isn't using that... The full frame wait is over... in ten more months. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:43 PM,

Re: Full Frame DSLR and FF zoom lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Larry Colen
Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3071796575/ricoh-announces-development-of-long-awaited-full-frame-pentax-dslr http://www.dpreview.com/articles/5760258369/ricoh-introduces-hd-pentax-d-fa-70-200mm-f2-8-and-hd-pentax-d-fa-150-450mm-f4-5-5-6-zooms My wish is that they

Re: Full frame the wait is over

2015-02-04 Thread Richard Womer
I haven't been waiting. http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Well nearly, according to this instagram post from Pentax Oz https://flic.kr/p/r4a5F8 -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML

Re: Full frame the wait is over

2015-02-04 Thread Darren Addy
I'm surprised that the ever-astute Pentax marketing department isn't using that... The full frame wait is over... in ten more months. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been waiting. http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:53

Re: Full frame the wait is over

2015-02-04 Thread J C OConnell
Ricoh is knocked up! I'm surprised that the ever-astute Pentax marketing department isn't using that... The full frame wait is over... in ten more months. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: full frame??

2013-11-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/11/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, can't you just recall that the obligation of yours was time limited by 2010. We're well in the second decade of the so called twenty first century :-). I don't recall the time limit - but am happy to go along with consensus :) It

Re: full frame??

2013-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/4/2013 6:33 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: I don't recall the time limit - but am happy to go along with consensus :) It would be a pity if, by the time a premium 36X24 sensor camera is released, one would be hard pressed to actually find the word 'Pentax' on it... That would be another

Re: full frame??

2013-11-03 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 3 November 2013 03:33, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/11/2013 11:18 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/2/2013 3:42 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Corporate commitment is the phrase that comes to mind. Maybe it is just about a really good sales VP who has been successful in

Re: full frame??

2013-11-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/11/13, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: If Pentax, or any company, was to place the importance you are implying they should on the rumour mills of internet fanboys, they would pretty much have to stop putting new products on the market entirely, since every new release would be causing a

Re: full frame??

2013-11-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
Very true. Although I still have great admiration for Boris's pessimism :-) Steve Desjardins On Nov 3, 2013, at 1:15 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/11/2013 10:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I'm Jewish, Bill and I pride myself in being an amateur photographer. I suppose I am

Re: full frame??

2013-11-03 Thread David J Brooks
Well for me, after reading the post, if a FF camera is planned for 2014, why would i buy a K-3, just wait it out for the FF. My K-5 is working fine and would be a great back up camera. Me thinks this is bunk my self. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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