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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Adam Maas
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:20 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital :
2009/11/23 steve harley :
>
> i'm trying to imagine what the analogy would be in photography ...
>
> kind of a kooky idea, but how about a TLR which shoots film *and* digital?
>
> --
Actually close to the mark, only not TLRs. Digital-capable medium
format SLRs, and large format view or field cam
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM, steve harley wrote:
> On 2009-11-22 18:20 , Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> Dance and electronica are huge markets overall. It's the dominant
>> musical form in Europe and Asia and extremely popular in North America
>> (Coming in fourth after R&B/Hip-Hop, Pop and Country).
On 2009-11-22 18:20 , Adam Maas wrote:
Dance and electronica are huge markets overall. It's the dominant
musical form in Europe and Asia and extremely popular in North America
(Coming in fourth after R&B/Hip-Hop, Pop and Country).
thanks for the insight Adam; i had a hunch -- i love that music
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> reissues dominate the audiophile market, and the audiophile
> market dominates drives all new record sales in 2009. LPs are
> only really being bought by audiophiles. Why would anyone
> buy lps for any other reason than sound quaity, they
>
On 23/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> Why would anyone
> buy lps for any other reason than sound quaity, they
> cost much more than CD or mp3, and if you don't have the right gear or
> care to
> make them sound better than CD, why bother with the drawbacks of vinyl??
I know John, next he'll be c
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> OK, there are some, but I am not going
> to buy for one second the premise that
> the majority of newly mfd record sales
> in 2009 is dance records, that is just
> way way too small of a genre/market
> compared to reissue rock, jazz, classic
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bob W wrote:
> [...]
>>
>
>> Music loving audiophiles are not a large market and they
>> don't tend to buy as much volume. Teenagers who want to be
>> famous are a large market and one who tends to buy a lot of volume.
> [...]
>
> Here are some hard stats from peop
009 6:28 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital : One retailers sales data
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, J.C. O'Connell
wrote:
> these are the top sellers, these are not total sales.
> A few new for 2009 releases may out sell any or even
> ALL the p
sage-
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Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:19 PM
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM, J.C. O'Connell
wrote:
> we are t
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> these are the top sellers, these are not total sales.
> A few new for 2009 releases may out sell any or even
> ALL the particular classic rock, jazz, titles but in
> total there are tons tons tons more of the classic
> rock, jazz, classical
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> we are talking about newly mfd record sales. There are almost
> no record brick and mortar stores left now. So basically LP records are
> sold online
> now. I can show you a whole bunch of record retailers selling lots of
> newly mfd.
> reis
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, J.C. O'Connell
wrote:
> dream on, while there are very la
On 23/11/2009, Bob W wrote:
> >
> > > And some real-world stats:
> >
> > Not fair, stifling a good argument with real world stats!
> >
>
> They leave plenty of room for creative interpretation!
But we already have an abundance of that. ;-)
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> > And some real-world stats:
>
> Not fair, stifling a good argument with real world stats!
>
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On 23/11/2009, Adam Maas wrote:
> And some real-world stats:
Not fair, stifling a good argument with real world stats!
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bob W wrote:
> [...]
>>
>
>> Music loving audiophiles are not a large market and they
>> don't tend to buy as much volume. Teenagers who want to be
>> famous are a large market and one who tends to buy a lot of volume.
> [...]
>
> Here are some hard stats from peop
[...]
>
> Music loving audiophiles are not a large market and they
> don't tend to buy as much volume. Teenagers who want to be
> famous are a large market and one who tends to buy a lot of volume.
[...]
Here are some hard stats from people who know:
http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/cd_sal
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> dream on, while there are very large number of NEW MUSiC titles
> in hip hop and dance, this is not the same as overall new LPs mfg and
> sold in all genres and including reissues. Dance/hip hop titles are
> popular
> on vinyl for DJS, the a
Adam Maas
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell
wrote:
> Your post is not clear if your being serious or
> sarcastic. I will state what I have b
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> Your post is not clear if your being serious or
> sarcastic. I will state what I have been saying
> all along, I don't believe the majority of
> new vinyl sales in 2009 is dance records as suggested, its
> mostly reissues of classic rock, ja
Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions :
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> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/
>
>
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> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> steve harley
> Sent: Saturday
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steve harley
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:56 PM
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On 2009-11-21 04:11 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> http://store.acoust
On 2009-11-21 04:11 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=topsellers&Top_Count=100&f
ield_cat=5
interesting; this "very large and popular vinyl retailer" carries 27
vinyl releases in the hip hop/rap category, 14 in funk, then there's
electronica, with zero rele
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Subject: RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
New vinyl releases today are primarily a high cost, $15-$30, high sound
quaity, audiophile reissue market from all the indications I have,
catalo
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:31 PM
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On 2009-11-20 10:59 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
NO, but I read many music and hi-fi periodicals
and see all the vendors catalogs too, its not a market
of dance tracks or new title SACDs, it a big reissue market of specially
pressed discs, mostly 180gram vinyl.
i think it's probably a split market,
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On 2009-11-18 05:22 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> The part about there being more new SACD/DVDA new releases now
On 2009-11-18 05:22 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
The part about there being more new SACD/DVDA new releases now
than more new vinyl **releases** now is incorrect, there is
a ton of brand new LP edition issues right now, way more than
SACD or DVDA combined. Most of these are high end LP reissues
of leg
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:09 AM
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On 20/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> YOU GUYS ar
On 20/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> YOU GUYS are in different domains, RS is talking about
> analog music tapes and JM is talking about digital data
> tapes. The problems and handing of each is not the same.
Obviously, but it's a fact that audio tapes degrade with time, often
far faster than t
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Joseph McAllister
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:31 AM
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On Nov 17, 2009,
On Nov 17, 2009, at 15:40 , Rob Studdert wrote:
the master recordings being tape however do degrade
with time. The ferrous binders often fail or become sticky so the the
tape flutters, the remnant magnetism becomes diminished so the noise
floor rises and dynamics become a little compressed. Plus
Dear Lord, who knew such things existed in our world?
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Francis
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:53 AM
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YouTube
YouTube .. StarTrek vibes .. at least it wasn't this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04
(now see how long it takes to get that tune out of your head)
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:57:41PM +1100, Anthony Farr wrote:
> How could I pass up the chance to respond with this?
>
> ht
From: Bob Sullivan
You're letting JCO poison the conversation. Better to 'Kill File'
him. Regards, Bob S.
Can't do that if you're subscribed through the digests. Just have to
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On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> I've actually just got a long-nurtured hate
>
> You know, I can't help but notice that the generally
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Peter Loveday wrote:
> But a well mastered SACD/DVDA is pretty damn impressive. Just a shame
> there's not
:45 PM
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2009/11/18 J.C. O'Connell :
> false, false, false, you cant take low resolution
> digital recordings (CD) and DO ANYTHING TO THEM to
> make them sound even remotely as good as proper
> high end vinyl mastering
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 17:40, Rob Studdert wrote:
>
> The RIAA equalization is not applied to the master recording so eq is
> not a problem, the master recordings being tape however do degrade
> with time.
There have been CDs m
On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> It depends on how you define "as good as". Might as well ask if a dog is "as
> good as" a cat? or vice versa.
The answer to that question is obvious.
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Peter Loveday wrote:
> But a well mastered SACD/DVDA is pretty damn impressive. Just a shame
> there's not more stuff being released on them, though its still probably more
> than the amount of new stuff released on vinyl :(
Yeah there's a real shortage of good SAC
2009/11/18 Charles Robinson :
> There have been CDs made in the past using tapes which DID have the RIAA
> curve applied.
>
> Crappy, crappy horrible sound results. Gladly, that kind of error is/was
> VERY rare back in the early 80s.
That would be very nasty (would make for a really poor q
2009/11/18 J.C. O'Connell :
> false, false, false, you cant take low resolution
> digital recordings (CD) and DO ANYTHING TO THEM to
> make them sound even remotely as good as proper
> high end vinyl mastering and playback. there is no magic
> trick to restore resolution lost in the low res
> digit
On Nov 17, 2009, at 17:40, Rob Studdert wrote:
>
> The RIAA equalization is not applied to the master recording so eq is
> not a problem, the master recordings being tape however do degrade
> with time.
There have been CDs made in the past using tapes which DID have the RIAA curve
applied.
Cr
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2009/11/18 John Sessoms :
> That was what I was sayi
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John Sessoms
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:18 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
From: Tom C
> I've never had an SACD, but it seems like techn
2009/11/18 John Sessoms :
> That was what I was saying about early CD issues being just a straight
> analog to digital conversion of the tape masters. The tapes were originally
> mixed so they'd sound good on vinyl, but the reproduction characteristics of
> the CD are different.
The RIAA equaliza
From: Tom C
I've never had an SACD, but it seems like technology is changing so
fast it's hard to keep up without pouring $$$ down the drain,
especially if the content is not there. We buy and spend like we live
forever, and both the stuff and us will last, but it doesn't.
I might have one. I
pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Thanks for that additional info on the history. As usual many
variables. I'm with you on the travel priorities. That would be mine
as well. If
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> The same factors apply to CDs.
>
> Audiophile CDs have much better sound quality than the ones you find
> in
> the discount bin at
In that last sentence I meant to say that a digitized copy of an
analog source, e.g. vinly LP is simply an inferior digital version.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Tom C wrote:
> I've never had an SACD, but it seems like technology is changing so
> fast it's hard to keep up without pouring $$$
I've never had an SACD, but it seems like technology is changing so
fast it's hard to keep up without pouring $$$ down the drain,
especially if the content is not there. We buy and spend like we live
forever, and both the stuff and us will last, but it doesn't.
So here's a question. Why when CD'
Thanks for that additional info on the history. As usual many
variables. I'm with you on the travel priorities. That would be mine
as well. If I can get what I consider great sound reproduction at a
decent price that's all I need. Quite it often it depends what we
compare it to.
As I said I go
The same factors apply to CDs.
Audiophile CDs have much better sound quality than the ones you find in
the discount bin at WalMart; especially some of the early CD issues of 60s
& 70s LPs that were digitized straight from the old LP "master" tapes
without any kind of re-mixing, re-mastering ..
On Nov 16, 2009, at 08:09 , Tom C wrote:
I'm actually surprised somone did not make the analogy between film
and digital and start arguing the inherent purity and noiseless
qualities of large format film.
An argument that is moot. Large format rools!
Not that I ever haul the 8 x 10 out anymo
How could I pass up the chance to respond with this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc
You get William Shatner AND the Pythons at the same time :-)
regards, Anthony
"Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight"
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John Sessoms
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:45 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
From: Tom C
> FWIW, when vinyl was in it's heyday, considering the quality of
> pla
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
From: Tom C
> FWIW, when vinyl was in it's heyday, considering the quality of
> playback equipment most commonly used by the largest %
From: Tom C
FWIW, when vinyl was in it's heyday, considering the quality of
playback equipment most commonly used by the largest % of the record
market, I wonder whether the LP's themselves were made to the high
quality audio specifications, that eliteists believe they are hearing.
I can hear a
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Tom C
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:40 PM
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I didn't forget, it's just that most p
LOL. I remember seeing that LP. Not one of Kirk's best moves as a captain.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Bob W wrote:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-yy2URAYqU&feature=related
>>
>
> It's better on vinyl. Well worth spending a couple of hundred K for the
> experience.
>
>
>
> --
> PD
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-yy2URAYqU&feature=related
>
It's better on vinyl. Well worth spending a couple of hundred K for the
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>
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> Tom C
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:09 AM
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> Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
>
>
> J.C., seriously, are y
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J.C., seriously, are you the pot or are you the kettle?
Because 99.9% of the people here on this list don't have a spare $10K,
much less $100K lying dormant that they would put into a sound system,
much less just one component, nor does the thou
t;
>
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> eckinator
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:18 AM
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> Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
>
>
> It is - there are no opinions involved - ju
In a message dated 11/15/2009 7:29:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
p...@web-options.com writes:
anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
> follow but rather to respectfully ignore
>
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
> ===
> I kill filed JCO years ago. Lots of us did.
>
From: Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>>>
>>> If the angels in heaven sound like Margo Timmins, I'll take
>>> hell rather than put up with that awful whining.
>>>
>>
>> She looks a bit like Margo Thatcher. Same initials too.
>
>
> You guys are just trying t
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
eckinator
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
It is - there are no opinions involved - just multiple parallel truths
governing the same subjects and monol
It is - there are no opinions involved - just multiple parallel truths
governing the same subjects and monologues are held in a tone of basic
civility - opinions regularly make discussions go sour; they should be
banned... ]=)
2009/11/16 Tom C :
> And how is that different than when cameras, art,
And how is that different than when cameras, art, and photography are
discussed??? :-)
Tom
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> I've actually just got a long-nurtured hate
>
> You know, I can't help but notice that the general
You've hit the nail on the head here, Ecke.
I'd dare to add on more consideration. Uber expensive gear of any
kind serves at least one great service. It liberates surplus funds
from people with more than they know what to do with, and
redistributes it to others more needy. In this case the manu
That means I know your are correct, but you are so head strong and
immovable in your presentation that I'd rather argue that you are wrong
just to piss you off.
MARK!
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Subject
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> I've actually just got a long-nurtured hate
You know, I can't help but notice that the generally friendly and
humorous tone around here has become bitter and adversarial once we
ventured into the music/audio territory. The Internet has plenty
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>>>
>>> If the angels in heaven sound like Margo Timmins, I'll take
>>> hell rather than put up with that awful whining.
>>>
>>
>> She looks a bit like Margo Thatcher. Same initials too.
>
>
> You guys are just trying to get away from the J
On Nov 15, 2009, at 14:36 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
glad
word
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> Ignorance is bliss, but bliss can be expensive.
MARK!
And with that, I'm outta' here.
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bject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the "all vinyl is noisy" myth,
,exposedinvideo
On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:54 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> look up the term STATE OF THE ART. sure hobbiest
> can build some damn good gear but its not state
> of the art stuff. try building
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the "all vinyl is noisy" myth,
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On
On Nov 15, 2009, at 14:08 , Rob Studdert wrote:
Ignorance is bliss, but bliss can be expensive.
Nice!
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On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:54 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
look up the term STATE OF THE ART. sure hobbiest
can build some damn good gear but its not state
of the art stuff. try building a cartrdige as
good as a $5000 cartridge for $5000 yourself,
ditto for Turntables CD players, etc. Its just
not possib
On 16/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> look up the term STATE OF THE ART. sure hobbiest
> can build some damn good gear but its not state
> of the art stuff. try building a cartrdige as
> good as a $5000 cartridge for $5000 yourself,
> ditto for Turntables CD players, etc. Its just
> not possible
On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:26 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
you seem to misunderstand, you cant get
state of the art audio gear for low cost,
even if you build it yourself. acutally
its practically impossible to build state
of the art audio gear yourself, there
is too much overhead in R&D and its
not econ
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On 16/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> you seem to misunderstand, you cant get
> state
On 16/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> you seem to misunderstand, you cant get
> state of the art audio gear for low cost,
> even if you build it yourself. acutally
> its practically impossible to build state
> of the art audio gear yourself, there
> is too much overhead in R&D and its
> not econo
A loudspeaker by itself is not a good judge of what it's cone
transmits into the air.
On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:10 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
No it comes out matter of factly on things that ARE matter of fact,
why present facts as opinions? That doesn't serve any purpose other
than creating confus
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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On 16/11/2009, Bob W wrote:
> I think he's been mostly correct i
On 16/11/2009, Bob W wrote:
> I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
> misconstrued what he's been saying. Unfortunately this just makes him hammer
> away at the same message over and over, which is rather tiresome. I think we
> should all adopt a general rule of m
On Nov 15, 2009, at 07:31 , Bob W wrote:
If
you want your heart to melt, sit down with some Cowboy
Junkies in a
dark room on a seriously-good audiophile playback system. -Tim
or Lucinda WIlliams, Willie Nelson, Leonard Cohen. All
perfectionists.
All very good singers but, if the angels
On Nov 15, 2009, at 02:41 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
your staying from the point which is that with a $1000 phono setup
you cant say you are always or nearly always "record limited"
sonically.
$1000 is not nearly enough budget to get the full sound quality of
most records, so you are still play
dplayers/
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/
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John Sessoms
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On 16/11/2009, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Rob Studdert wrote:
>
> >Do you ever actually read what anyone else writes John? Serious question.
>
> Rob, have you ever read JCO's participation in any other threads?
> Serious question.
> ;-)
OK, I admit, I was a bit bored re-working on tedious old MS pub f
That's the beauty of it, I just screw on a longer set of legs and use
a helicopter and live view... MUAHAHAHAHA ]=)
2009/11/15 Joseph McAllister :
> O'Yeah? Our three leggers can be set up on uneven ground in 1/100th of the
> time your behemoth can be drug up the hill!
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> On Nov 1
From: "Bob W"
I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
misconstrued what he's been saying. Unfortunately this just makes him hammer
away at the same message over and over, which is rather tiresome.
Perhaps because the *message* that's come through is "My way is th
O'Yeah? Our three leggers can be set up on uneven ground in 1/100th of
the time your behemoth can be drug up the hill!
:-)
On Nov 15, 2009, at 02:40 , eckinator wrote:
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... "your gear isn't
good enough to entitle you to an opinion" I know this i
2009/11/15 J.C. O'Connell :
> And when you ignore, it just maintains ignorance.
Yes and I fail to see the fault with that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
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> anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
> follow but rather to respectfully ignore
>
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
> ===
>
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> damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery...
Mark!
(sounds like a closing quote to me...)
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