From: "Tanya Love"
So to all you tecchie-heads, who can answer this question??
Now that I have the option (with my new K-7) of choosing between .pef
and .dng, I am wondering why there is such an option and which file
format is better, or are they both a much of a muchness? Can anyone
help me he
PJ,
Actually, I found the DNG's on the K-7 are 12-16 mb, down from the
22+mb on the K20.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> For quality they're the same. PEF's are slightly compressed. Often a PEF
> from the K20D will be the same size as a PEF from the *ist-
For quality they're the same. PEF's are slightly compressed. Often a
PEF from the K20D will be the same size as a PEF from the *ist-D
~10mb-15mp where as DNGs from the K20D are ~23-25k in size. I'm pretty
sure things haven't changed from the K20D to the K-7.
On 2/7/2010 8:50 AM, Tanya Love
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, David Savage wrote:
> And for those of use with multiple systems, with multiple RAW formats,
> it keeps file handling simple.
>
> DS
Like us.:-), and those who only have CS1.
Dave
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On 7 February 2010 23:06, Graydon wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:17:57AM -0800, Rick Womer scripsit:
>> I believe that the DNGs are compressed on the K7, though, so there is
>> probably no advantage to either format.
>
> PEF is Pentax-specific. DNG is a standard of sorts. So the advantage
>
bject: Re: pef or dng & why?
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:17:57AM -0800, Rick Womer scripsit:
> I believe that the DNGs are compressed on the K7, though, so there is
> probably no advantage to either format.
PEF is Pentax-specific. DNG is a standard of sorts. So the advantage to
DNGs is
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:17:57AM -0800, Rick Womer scripsit:
> I believe that the DNGs are compressed on the K7, though, so there is
> probably no advantage to either format.
PEF is Pentax-specific. DNG is a standard of sorts. So the advantage
to DNGs is that almost all raw file processing sof
Tanya,
See my answer to your other post. On my K10D, the advantage to shooting PEF is
that the files are losslessly compressed, so that I can get 170-180 shots on a
2GB card; the DNGs aren't compressed.
I believe that the DNGs are compressed on the K7, though, so there is probably
no advantag
On May 6, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> .. I still cannot believe Pentax hasn't included DNG compression in
> the camera yet. Does it use a more computationally expensive
> algorithm
> than what they're using for the PEFs? I figured there'd be a firmware
> upgrade shortly after in
On Sat, 5 May 2007, Mark Cassino wrote:
> I usually shoot in DNG, mostly because I'm concerned about future
> compatibility. In the future, who will keep writing software to convert
> old propriety RAW files? And with operating system changes etc, how long
> can you count on being able to run the
I'm shooting inDNG. Until i bought LR i had now way of looking at the
Pef's. I could install the CD that came with my K10D, but if it
converts Pefs to Jpgs like the earlier versions,ie VVVery slowly,
i wont bother, unless someone here suggests its worth while.
Dave
On 5/5/07, Mark Cassino <[E
On 06/05/07, Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I usually shoot in DNG, mostly because I'm concerned about future
> compatibility. In the future, who will keep writing software to convert
> old propriety RAW files? And with operating system changes etc, how long
> can you count on being abl
I usually shoot in DNG, mostly because I'm concerned about future
compatibility. In the future, who will keep writing software to convert
old propriety RAW files? And with operating system changes etc, how long
can you count on being able to run the software you currently use to
process PEF's
I capture in RAW/PEF as that is compressed and save space on the card.
I import PEFs from the card with Lightroom using "copy files with DNG
conversion", putting them on the hard drive.
If you capture using RAW/DNG in camera, you can compress them on the
fly to your hard drive by using DNG Con
Convert to DNG within camera, or in Lightroom/Bridge/PS-Camera Raw?
Maris
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> The primary difference on disk, and the reason I convert to DNG, is
> that Lightroom and Photoshop+Bridge+Camera Raw will embed updated
> metadata into the DNG file where for PEFs the metadata is s
6 MBs per image adds up - thanks William, and all others. I have a 2 GB SD
card now, plus 2 @ 512MB and 1 @ 256 (came with my Option 555). I'll pick
up some more before I go on a road trip.
Maris
William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Maris V. Lidaka Sr."
> Subject: PEF o
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>The primary difference on disk, and the reason I convert to DNG, is
>that Lightroom and Photoshop+Bridge+Camera Raw will embed
>updated metadata into the DNG file where for PEFs the metadata is
>saved to an external sidecar file.
Good point. This is in fact the reason
Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote:
>My Pentax K10D has arrived - photos today, or maybe tomorrow.
>
>PEF or DNG - which do you use, and why? (or why not?)
I started out with DNG because Camera Raw couldn't work with K10D PEFs
at the time. I've stayed with DNG mostly out of habit.
I archive everything
On May 5, 2007, at 1:17 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Maris V. Lidaka Sr."
> Subject: PEF or DNG
>
>
>> My Pentax K10D has arrived - photos today, or maybe tomorrow.
>>
>> PEF or DNG - which do you use, and why? (or why not?)
>
> I was using DNG until Photosho
DNG Converter does not "strip away" or hide EXIF data, Dario.
All the original metadata is present in the DNG file.
G
On May 5, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
> With my D, I almost phased out JPEGs in favor of PEF's. That was a
> very slow
> and not fully completed process, as such lar
- Original Message -
From: "Maris V. Lidaka Sr."
Subject: PEF or DNG
> My Pentax K10D has arrived - photos today, or maybe tomorrow.
>
> PEF or DNG - which do you use, and why? (or why not?)
I was using DNG until Photoshop started supporting PEFs. I switched over to
Pef and saw no pr
With my D, I almost phased out JPEGs in favor of PEF's. That was a very slow
and not fully completed process, as such large files were still quite a
problem for me.
With the K10D and its compressed RAW's, together with an ever-decreasing
cost for storage, not to speak of its so-so reliability ab
On May 5, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote:
> My Pentax K10D has arrived - photos today, or maybe tomorrow.
> PEF or DNG - which do you use, and why? (or why not?)
Before Lightroom 1.0 and Camera Raw v3.7 were released, I captured
exclusively in RAW/DNG format. The K10D's DNG forma
Great job, John.
Good light!
fra
My understanding is that Adobe don't intend forcing anyone to change their
setup/mechanics/algorithms to shoot in DNG mode, just as film printers
didn't ever try to make everyone shoot 35mm or 6x6 or any other of the
formats that they equipped themselves to deal with.
I _can_ see the merit of t
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From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PEF or DNG?
well... no.
the idea (as i understand it) behind DNG is to make pentax et al create
the proprietory "converters", or, better yet, use DNG itself as a raw
f
well... no.
the idea (as i understand it) behind DNG is to make pentax et al create the
proprietory "converters", or, better yet, use DNG itself as a raw format.
the 3rd party (adobe in this case) raw-to-DNG converter is useful only as
a toy to give people some sense of what is should look and fee
Mark Roberts mused:
>
> "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I've just taken my first look at what the Adobe DNG converter
> >does when you give it a Pentax PEF file from the *ist-D
> >
> >First and foremost: the DNG converter doesn't preserve all the
> >Pentax-private data from the Mak
"John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just taken my first look at what the Adobe DNG converter
>does when you give it a Pentax PEF file from the *ist-D
>
>First and foremost: the DNG converter doesn't preserve all the
>Pentax-private data from the MakerNote tag (including, amongst
>other
Thanks John.
I had converted some of my PEF files to DNG for archiving. That seems
to be okay. But I was about to edfelete all my PEFs in favor of their
DNG counterparts. Now, thanks to your input, that sounds like a poor
choice. Thanks again for watching out for us.
Paul
On Oct 10, 2004, at 7
On 10 Oct 2004 at 19:57, John Francis wrote:
> Bottom line: this looks very much like a work in progress.
> I'd expect to see a future release of the DNG converter
> preserve more of the Pentax-specific information from the
> MakerNote tag, and perhaps even use the same linearization
> curve as th
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