Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-19 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, for the suggestions, Igor. I think I missed this when it first arrived. Eric On May 12, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Eric, As Jack wrote, - 17-70/4 could be an option for you (if the price is affordable) I bought it as it gives me that reach to 70.

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: So, should it be the 16-45 or is there something else I should consider. I had a used copy of the 16-45, and I found it to be a very good value, and I liked the 16mm wide end. But before too long, my copy became decentered,

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Matthew. That’s very helpful. On May 12, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: So, should it be the 16-45 or is there something else I should consider. I had a used copy of the 16-45, and I

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Jack. That occurred to me. Don’t recall any comments about it here, though. Appreciate your recommendation of the 16-45. On May 12, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Maybe a DA17-70? I can comfortably recommend the DA16-45f/4. J Sent from my iPhone

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Darren Addy
I should add that if there is any way that you can swing it THE ultrawide lens to get (IMHO) is the Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6. It is responsible for almost all of my favorite images. I got mine used for $350 from a Craigslist seller and it is a good one. BH has it NEW right now for little more than

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread P.J. Alling
The 16-45 is supposed to be pretty good, but if you're looking for the closest analog to the 20-40, I'd reccomend the FA 20-35mm at least optically, and zoom range, build quality is very good for a mostly plastic lens, and at this time it's not all that sexy when compared to the DA Limited, so

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Jack Davis
Maybe a DA17-70? I can comfortably recommend the DA16-45f/4. J Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well, when isn’t cost a consideration? I’ll put it this way: I’d like to have a 20-40/2.8-4 limited but that’s beyond my means. A 16-45/4 is

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Jack Davis
I like the constant aperture feature of the DA16-45f/4. J Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I should add that if there is any way that you can swing it THE ultrawide lens to get (IMHO) is the Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6. It is

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Eric, As Jack wrote, - 17-70/4 could be an option for you (if the price is affordable) I bought it as it gives me that reach to 70. It is not the sharpest lens at the longer end, so, if I need 50-70 at the best quality, I switch to 50-135/2.8. But it is reasonably good nevertheless. I

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
On May 12, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion the Pentax DA 16-45mm is a good lens at a very reasonable price. I'm not aware of anything else that goes as wide as 16mm for such a reasonable price. BH has several used one for as little as $189.

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread P.J. Alling
I don't know about comparison reviews, as I've said the lens is mostly plastic, good quality plastic, but plastic. It had already been discontinued by the time the 16-45 had been released. Maybe it was a problem of sample variation. The 20-35 I have is very sharp, shows little signs of

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Peter. Two to think about. Didn’t find either at either KEH or BH. One review written just after the 16-45 came out compared the FA 20-35 unfavorably to the 16-45. On May 12, 2015, at 1:19 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The 16-45 is supposed to be pretty good, but

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread John
If price really is a consideration, I'd consider either the 18-55 kit lens or the weather sealed 18-55 kit lens. On 5/12/2015 8:26 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Thanks, Peter. Two to think about. Didn’t find either at either KEH or BH. One review written just after the 16-45 came out compared the FA

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
Very interesting, and affordable. Even new. I take it from the images I’ve seen, ultrawide is not yet fisheye. I like the fact that the Sigma 16-50 that Belunt suggested has an internal focusing motor. On May 12, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I should add that

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Mark C
I have both the Pentax 17-70 f4 and 16-45 f4. Comparing the two lenses - Sharpness: My 16-45 is noticeably sharper at f4 and slightly sharper at f5.6 and beyond. The 17-70 is a little soft at f4 but improves when stopped down. Both of my lenses seem to be consistently sharp through their

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Jack. Yes, it is attractive. On May 12, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: I like the constant aperture feature of the DA16-45f/4. J Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I should add that if there

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks very much, Mark. Very helpful comparisons. I’m leaning toward the 16-45 at the moment. I checked prices but not reviews on the 16-85. It’s out of my range price-wise. On May 12, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: I have both the Pentax 17-70 f4 and 16-45 f4.

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Eric Weir
On May 12, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Ignoring, for a moment, the price part I must mention Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 (HSM) lens as possibly the best in its class. No idea about its price though... I will not be surprised if it is on the expensive side…

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Mark C
I have the FA 20-35 and used it still with film. I used it for a few years with the *ist-D before getting the 18-55. It's an excellent lens - very sharp with excellent color. I think it would be comparable to the 16-45. But - it is not so wide (20mm vs 16), has a pretty constrained zoom range,

Re: Wide angle zooms when cost is a consideration

2015-05-12 Thread Darren Addy
In my opinion the Pentax DA 16-45mm is a good lens at a very reasonable price. I'm not aware of anything else that goes as wide as 16mm for such a reasonable price. BH has several used one for as little as $189.