Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Storage cards are not an investment. They are depreciable consumables. Investments are stocks, bonds, money market and savings accounts. Frankly, I think Pentax has shown concern for their customers by moving to SD cards, which allow the cameras to be smaller, and since SD cards are the

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You have to remember Shel, when most people bought there *istD flash memory wasn't as cheap as it is now. If it had been, I would consider it disposable. For a camera maker know for backwards compatibility, IMO

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
Correction: should read (a 512MB, 1GB 2GB in my case) Dave On 8/22/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You have to remember Shel, when most people bought there *istD flash memory wasn't as cheap as

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:18:37 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You're not logical. What you paid is totally irrelevant. What matters is how much you have to pay now to equip yourself with SD

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
LOL Yeah right. Dave On 8/22/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:18:37 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You're not logical. What you paid is totally irrelevant.

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread John Forbes
Investment? The price of storage cards is now so low that if they are typical of your investments you can look forward to a dismal old age. If this sort of attitude governed everything Pentax does, they'd be making Daguerrotypes. John On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:32:23 +0100, Joseph Tainter

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
True. I have six CF cards, but I'm not the least concerned that the 10 doesn't use them. I think I paid $250 for my first 1 gig card and $59 for my last. I'll keep them for my D, which will be the backup body. I already have one SD card that I bought for my Panasonic PS (a 1 gig), so I'll be

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:53, David Savage wrote: LOL Yeah right. Dave On 8/22/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:18:37 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You're

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 22, 2006, at 12:32 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote: Maybe, maybe not. The only thing certain is that Pentax has already shown a lack of concern for customers investments in storage cards. NOT TO MENTION THEIR LACK OF CONCERN FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS WHO SHOOT A LOT OF FILM!!! I HAVE ALL THIS

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:18 AM, David Savage wrote: Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. David -- are those cards fast compared to what's out there currently, or would putting them into your new camera put you at a significant write speed

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
At 06:44 PM 22/08/2006, you wrote: On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:18 AM, David Savage wrote: Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. David -- are those cards fast compared to what's out there currently, or would putting them into your new camera put you at

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I've never shopped by name, so I don't know what the write speed of an Ultra II translates to. -Aaron -- http://aaronreynolds.ca http://battersbox.ca http://hardballtimes.com -Original Message- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:03 AM, David Savage wrote: I see your point guy's, it's just the Scottish blood in me that hates paying for stuff again and again. Did you ever buy film? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
Yep! On 8/22/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:03 AM, David Savage wrote: I see your point guy's, it's just the Scottish blood in me that hates paying for stuff again and again. Did you ever buy film? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: Shel wrote: I get a sense that there will be no further firmware upgrades to these cameras even though that was not specifically stated. - Maybe, maybe not. The only thing certain is that Pentax has already shown a lack of concern for customers investments in

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
translates to. -Aaron -- http://aaronreynolds.ca http://battersbox.ca http://hardballtimes.com -Original Message- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2 Date: Tue 2006 Aug 22 7:03 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Indeed! I'm seeing even the new 4GB Transcend SDHC card drop in price even while a rebate is still in effect for them. The card's only been out about a month or so. An SD card I paid about $60.00 for a few months ago can now be purchased for $17.00 at the same source. Plus, you don't yet know

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[Original Message] From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 8/22/2006 12:18:47 AM Subject: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2 Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You have to remember Shel, when

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
Thanks Adam. Dave On 8/22/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF Ultra II's are quite fast, for last-generation cards. Not quite up to the current max speed. SD Ultra II's are indeed faster last I checked. But they're current 133x cards. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
In SD I think it's about 60X ... Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds I've never shopped by name, so I don't know what the write speed of an Ultra II translates to. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Aaaron ... The numbers work out to considerably less than $100.00 if you make a wise purchase. How does $53.00 plus whatever shipping and taxes there may be for an 80X 1GB card and a 150X 2GB card. Good point about the speed of cards then and now - and for the future as well, I guess. Shel

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2 I can understand that some people may be upset that their CF cards can't be used in the new cameras, but OTOH, everyone knew going into this DSLR thing that it involved developing

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL If Dave's like me, there are probably at least a few times he's sent a roll through the camera more than once. I've also heard that Dave's the Double Exposure King of Oz interjecting humour Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:03 AM, David

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
Cheeky Bugger. I've never double exposed a whole roll, but I have rewound a few mid way to change to something else. When I reloaded the original to finish it off I had a few overlapping frames. :-) Dave At 09:35 PM 22/08/2006, you wrote: LOL If Dave's like me, there are probably at least a

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:26 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The numbers work out to considerably less than $100.00 if you make a wise purchase. I know -- I was trying to put together a reasonable worst-case. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
Just to satisfy my curiosity I checked 6 local online stores to see what it would cost to swap my current Sandisk Ultra II CF capacity (3.512GB) to the SD equivalent. Assuming prices are up to date, the average works out to: AU$257 (~US$195) Which isn't too bad considering that's about what my

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:18, David Savage wrote: Just to satisfy my curiosity I checked 6 local online stores to see what it would cost to swap my current Sandisk Ultra II CF capacity (3.512GB) to the SD equivalent. Assuming prices are up to date, the average works out to: AU$257 (~US$195)

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Sheesh, David, that's outrageous. Maybe you can get someone to purchase the cards here in the US for you. Two 80X 1GB cards will cost US$36.00 or so plus shipping and tax (probably not more than an additional US$8.00 +/- A 150X 2GB card will cost about the same. Shel [Original Message]

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 22, 2006, at 10:18 AM, David Savage wrote: Assuming prices are up to date, the average works out to: AU$257 (~US$195) Well, it sucks to be in Australia. Maybe your CF cards have held their value, then, eh? Three fast Gb plus a slow 1Gb card for my Palm cost me about $100 total,

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread David Savage
Now you see my point ;-) Dave On 8/22/06, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:18, David Savage wrote: Assuming prices are up to date, the average works out to: AU$257 (~US$195) Yikes. Here in Minneapolis (US) a local store was selling 80x 1gig SD cards for

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
, but I think you may be in the minority (not to negate your POV or situation, though). Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 8/22/2006 12:18:47 AM Subject: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2 Not if you'd bought

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread John Forbes
Import them. John On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:42:07 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now you see my point ;-) Dave On 8/22/06, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:18, David Savage wrote: Assuming prices are up to date, the average works out to:

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
Message] From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 8/22/2006 12:18:47 AM Subject: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2 Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You have to remember Shel, when most people bought

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 8/22/2006 12:18:47 AM Subject: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2 Not if you'd bought $500+ (a 1GB a 2GB in my case) worth of CF cards you wouldn't. You have to remember Shel, when most people bought there *istD flash memory wasn't

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread John Francis
Why not? I've spent considerably more on CF cards (including almost $400 on 2 1GB Microdrives when I first bought my *ist-D). It's stupid to continue to value commodity memory at the price you paid for it - it's worth, at most, the cost of a replacement. Nowadays that seems to be somewhere

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread graywolf
Yes, everyone knows that. What they don't seem to know is that limit is in the millions of cycles range. Hardly something for the ordinary consumer to worry about. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:17:02 -0400 Yes, everyone knows that. What they don't seem to know is that limit is in the millions of cycles range. Hardly something for the ordinary consumer to worry about

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: Yes, everyone knows that. What they don't seem to know is that limit is in the millions of cycles range. Hardly something for the ordinary consumer to worry about. The numbers I've seen are closer to 10,000 writes per cell than a million. Of course it's been a couple of

4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi gang - today I received a note about future firmware upgrades to the subject cameras. For those who care, here's the correspondence. make of it what you will - I get a sense that there will be no further firmware upgrades to these cameras even though that was not specifically stated. Shel

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think it means what it says, Shel. Mark and his colleagues at Pentax USA Customer Service have not yet received any specific information from Pentax about fw updates. That's all. Inferring anything else from it is just speculation. There may never be another fw update, but then again

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd like to think there will be at least one more upgrade, and I wasn't really trying to read the future into Mark's comments ... it's more just a feeling I have. I sincerely hope you're correct, and that there will be some more upgrades, if for no other reason it may indicate how pentax will

Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2

2006-08-21 Thread Joseph Tainter
Shel wrote: I get a sense that there will be no further firmware upgrades to these cameras even though that was not specifically stated. - Maybe, maybe not. The only thing certain is that Pentax has already shown a lack of concern for customers investments in storage cards. Joe -- PDML

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-20 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Cory, Where @ that price? Collin It came from zipzoomfly, but I don't know if the deal is still on. When I need a comodity item like blank DVDs or flash memory like that, I just keep an eye on the deals websites. If I'm not in a hurry and can wait until a deal

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-20 Thread collin . x . brenemuehl
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:48:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Cory, Where @ that price? Collin It came from zipzoomfly, but I don't know if the deal is still on. When I need a comodity item like blank

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:48 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: I wasn't *really* in need of more camera memory (already had 2x512MB, 1x1GB), but since I'm planning on doing some hiking this summer and I shoot RAW, I figure it'd be pretty likely I'd fire up more than 200 pictures during an overnight

Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Will the DS with v2.0 of the firmware support SD cards with a greater than 2GB capacity? I thought I saw that it does, but I cannot find the link now. Shel

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
DS firmware v.1.2 allows SD cards greater than 1GB (how much greater is unknown). v.2.0 also includes all v.1.2 features. Dario - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Supported SD Cards

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, Dario - that much I knew from updating the original to v1.02. However, at that time there were no, or very few, SD cards with a capacity greater than 2GB, hence my question. I don't want to buy a 4GB card only to find it doesn't work or work properly. I was hoping that someone who actually

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I recall seeing some discussion on DPReview.com regarding 4Gbyte cards. Some folks have not had any problems with some makes, some folks haven't been able to get them to work. File system doesn't seem to be the problem as firmware v2.0 implements FAT32 already. Evidently, there are

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Fred
As always with emerging technologies, it's best to stay one jump behind the bleeding edge for maximum compatibility and best performance per dollar. As always with bleeding edge technologies, it's best to stay one jump behind the edge for minimum bleeding... Fred

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread jtainter
Shel, a 4 GB CF card causes my D to boot up noticeably slowly. For this reason my 4 GB Lexar card gets used only when all other cards are full. I don't know whether the DS and an SD card will also have this problem. Joe

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Actually, I agree with you. I'm satisfied with the 1GB cards, although I can see getting a 2GB card for a number of reasons. I mostly asked about the 4GB card for a friend who recently bought a DS, but possibly for my own consideration as well.. My next card purchase will probably be a 2GB card

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The D is quite a sluggard in some respects when compared to the DS and the DS2. It's not surprising that it would boot slower. It would be something to watch out for, though. Good point. Shel [Original Message] From: jtainter Shel, a 4 GB CF card causes my D to boot up noticeably

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Switching between 512M, 1G and 2G Sandisk Ultra II SD cards in the DS doesn't seem to change the 'power on to ready' time at all that I can detect. I don't have a 4G card to try so I can't report on that. Godfrey On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The D is quite a

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I see so little difference between 60x and 80x cards in the DS that it would be hard to imagine anything faster as being of significant consequence with regards to write speed. The DS2 and DL/DL2 models supposedly write faster and can utilize a 133x card's capabilities, but I haven't seen

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Apr 19, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The DS2 and DL/DL2 models supposedly write faster and can utilize a 133x card's capabilities, but I haven't seen proof of that yet. I have both a cheapie Kingston 1GB SD card and a 133x Kingston 1GB card -- the 133x is very obviously

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
http://www.hdtune.com/ or http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds I have both a cheapie Kingston 1GB SD card and a 133x Kingston 1GB card -- the 133x is very obviously faster by a really significant amount in the DS2.

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Cory Papenfuss
As always with emerging technologies, it's best to stay one jump behind the bleeding edge for maximum compatibility and best performance per dollar. Memory cards are a commodity purchase, it makes sense to simply get the best bang for the buck and eschew always wanting the latest, biggest,

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Aaron Reynolds
. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:34 pm Size: 373 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net cc: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hdtune.com/ or http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread collin . x . brenemuehl
Cory, Where @ that price? Collin

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 19, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: The DS2 and DL/DL2 models supposedly write faster and can utilize a 133x card's capabilities, but I haven't seen proof of that yet. I have both a cheapie Kingston 1GB SD card and a 133x Kingston 1GB card -- the 133x is very obviously

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Those are Windows utilities, Shel, and say nothing about in-camera write speed. On Mac OS X, you can check IO throughput from card to computer by running the Activity Monitor application and looking at disk activity. Fill a card to test and then do a copy with the Finder from card to

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yeah, I realized that after the message was posted. But, isn't write speed in the computer be similar to write speed in the camera? Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Those are Windows utilities, Shel, and say nothing about in-camera write speed. Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Apr 19, 2006, at 5:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get a sense of relative speeds by setting the camera to Manual exposure, choosing 1/1000 second or so, and timing several runs from the start of a burst of five exposures to when the busy light goes out. Without further

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sandisk ultra II 2G: JPEG 3.5 second RAW 14 second result of five runs each, from when I pressed the shutter release to when the busy light goes out after 5 exposures. DS body G

Re: Supported SD Cards for istDS

2006-04-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not necessarily. Besides, what is interesting is to determine how fast the camera can perform writes to the fast card, not how fast the card can do IO. Godfrey On Apr 19, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yeah, I realized that after the message was posted. But, isn't write speed

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There is little point to cards much beyond the speed of the camera to write data to them, although faster cards do allow faster downloads to computer through a card reader. I have cards of various brands and speeds, most are 45x and 60x but I have a couple of slower ones. It's easy to see

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thank you G ... that was exactly the info i was looking for. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi There is little point to cards much beyond the speed of the camera to write data to them, although faster cards do allow faster downloads to computer through a card reader. I

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Any card with a 40X write speed or faster will give you optimum performance in the camera. A faster card will download to a computer more rapidly if you're using a firewire or USB2 card reader. I use CF cards and have a variety of brands and speeds. They all perform just fine. Paul On Aug 17,

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread Bertil Holmberg
The card type or brand is not only a question of speed. I bought a 256 MB SanDisk card for my *istDs that worked well in the camera but was impossible to read from my puter, not even when I attached the camera directly to my Mac. A 64 MB Kingston card that I had in my Optio worked fine,

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 17, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: The card type or brand is not only a question of speed. I bought a 256 MB SanDisk card for my *istDs that worked well in the camera but was impossible to read from my puter, not even when I attached the camera directly to my Mac. A 64

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread Igor Roshchin
-0700 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Recommended SD Cards for istDs Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Which brand and speed cards do you recommend for the istDs? I was thinking of the San Disk Ultra II

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread Fred
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Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-17 Thread mike wilson
Fred wrote: I hope this helps. Igor [Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]] OK - Here's the chance for you guys to personally and publicly thank Igor for the Komkon sponsorship of Pentaxian web sites (http://pug.komkon.org and http://plg.komkon.org/). Thanks, Igor. Fred Seconded. mike

OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards for istDs)

2005-08-17 Thread Igor Roshchin
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:15:19 +0100 From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs Fred wrote: I hope this helps. Igor [Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]] OK - Here's the chance for you guys to personally

Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Which brand and speed cards do you recommend for the istDs? I was thinking of the San Disk Ultra II, or a comparable Lexar, but I've no brand loyalty at this point. Can the Ds use the speed of this, and similar cards? Having cards that will DL a bit faster to the computer is nice, so it might

RE: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-16 Thread Tom C
: Recommended SD Cards for istDs Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:13:40 -0700 Which brand and speed cards do you recommend for the istDs? I was thinking of the San Disk Ultra II, or a comparable Lexar, but I've no brand loyalty at this point. Can the Ds use the speed of this, and similar cards? Having cards

Re: Recommended SD Cards for istDs

2005-08-16 Thread Pat Kong
Hi Shel, I use Sandisk Ultra II 512MB cards w/ the Ds. I cannot say what advantages the Ultra II speed has for me, however as I don't notice a speed difference btwn the Ultra II and a non-Ultra II 1GB Sandisk SD card. I have no experience w/ Lexar cards. Hope this helped (not much), Pat in SF

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Peter Loveday
I didn't know there were mini SD cards, SD cards are small enough, too small in my opinion. It doesn't use CF cards if that's what you mean. There are indeed mini SD cards. Not a lot uses them (yet)... I think they're more intended for small devices, like mobile phones etc, where evn an SD

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No, I meant regular v mini SD cards. Discovered the mini on the San Disk site, I believe. Or maybe one of the sites that specializes in selling media memory. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling I didn't know there were mini SD cards, SD cards are small enough, too small in my

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And you can put the newer firmware in older cameras? Shel [Original Message] From: David Oswald : Does the istds use regular or mini SD cards? It takes regular SD cards. As of firmware version 1.02 it handles SD cards of any size up to and greater than 1gb (ie, it now supports 2gb

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Carlos Royo
Shel Belinkoff escribió: And you can put the newer firmware in older cameras? Yes, you can. Mine came with the 1.00 version of the firmware, and I downloaded and installed v. 1.02 shortly afterwards. It is easy, as long as you follow carefully the installation procedure. Carlos

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Peter Loveday
And you can put the newer firmware in older cameras? Yep, instructions and download are here: http://www.pentaximaging.com/customer_care/show_firmware?firmId=3 Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread David Savage
Yep. Dave On 7/10/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you can put the newer firmware in older cameras? Shel [Original Message] Wrom: QEMSFDULHPQQ : Does the istds use regular or mini SD cards? It takes regular SD cards. As of firmware version 1.02 it handles SD

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Peter Loveday wrote: I didn't know there were mini SD cards, SD cards are small enough, too small in my opinion. It doesn't use CF cards if that's what you mean. There are indeed mini SD cards. Not a lot uses them (yet)... I think they're more intended for small devices, like mobile

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Peter Loveday
I suppose it may be possible to get a SD/miniSD adapter along the lines of the CF/SD one. Still, be an (unnecessarily) expensive route at this point. According to the link you posted, the mini comes with an adapter. Heh, so it does. Still, they are bound to be more expensive than regular

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: SD Cards for istds No, I meant regular v mini SD cards. Discovered the mini on the San Disk site, I believe. Or maybe one of the sites that specializes in selling media memory. I wonder what the point of mini SD

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread P. J. Alling
It strikes me as a marketing not an engineering requirement. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: SD Cards for istds No, I meant regular v mini SD cards. Discovered the mini on the San Disk site, I believe. Or maybe one of the sites

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: SD Cards for istds It strikes me as a marketing not an engineering requirement. We know they have too much time on their hands.. William Robb

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A smaller card means a correspondingly smaller card reader device, which is the larger consideration when designing small, hand-held devices like phones, etc. Godfrey

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-10 Thread Thibouille
SD cards are small enough, too small in my opinion Totally agree but you know that smaller is always better don't you? That's why everybody do throw their old obsolete film SLRs and buy some stupid small digithing. Just because it is small. IMO Cf Cards have the required size for my hands.

SD Cards for istds

2005-07-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Does the istds use regular or mini SD cards? Shel

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-09 Thread David Oswald
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Does the istds use regular or mini SD cards? It takes regular SD cards. As of firmware version 1.02 it handles SD cards of any size up to and greater than 1gb (ie, it now supports 2gb cards).

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-09 Thread Peter Loveday
Does the istds use regular or mini SD cards? Regular SD. - Peter

Re: SD Cards for istds

2005-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I didn't know there were mini SD cards, SD cards are small enough, too small in my opinion. It doesn't use CF cards if that's what you mean. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Does the istds use regular or mini SD cards? Shel -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and