Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread David Savage
At 12:00 PM 3/08/2006, Rob Studdert wrote: On 03/08/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all moot since there's no way my current budget allows for more equipment. However, I've been worried about increased noise at higher ISOs since it became apparent that the Pentax would be

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:00:56 +0200 schreef Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/08/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all moot since there's no way my current budget allows for more equipment. However, I've been worried about increased noise at higher ISOs since it

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/08/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the camera as per Peter's spec's, or the upcoming 10MP body? For me, the buffer size is the spec I'm most interested in. As per Peters spec. I already have a 6MP camera and the 10MP is still vapour. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: vapour. Welcome back Rob. :-))) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit

Re: Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread DagT
Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/08/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the camera as per Peter's spec's, or the upcoming 10MP body? For me, the buffer size is the spec I'm most interested in. As per Peters spec. I already have a 6MP camera and the 10MP is

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread brooksdj
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. My D2h is a lot worse than my D200, which

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Digital Image Studio wrote: I've got the money just sitting there waiting for this camera... Same here. I'll order it the minute it appears on the BH web page. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. My D2h is a lot

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 01:00:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. Plenty

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Joseph wrote: SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3 stops extra speed. But we would lose at least one of those stops to noise. (If you shot satisfactorily at ISO 1600 before, with the K10D you may need to limit yourself to ISO 800.) I often shoot in low light, and am concerned about this noise issue.

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread pnstenquist
As will I. -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digital Image Studio wrote: I've got the money just sitting there waiting for this camera... Same here. I'll order it the minute it appears on the BH web page. -- Mark Roberts

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. -- Mark Roberts

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/02/britain.elvisbear.ap/index.html Thats hilarious. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread pnstenquist
Since the *istD is capable of making 13 x 19 prints that are more than adequate for gallery shows, I have no concerns whatsoever in regard to resolution. Paul -- Original message -- From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joseph wrote: SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Rick Womer
My understanding is that noise has as much to do with the firmware as with the sensor. The Sony sensor in the ist D series is in a bunch of other cameras, and test reports have a wide range of reported noise levels. Rick --- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this over at dpreview:

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread pnstenquist
I've heard that it won't come with a neck strap, but a leash will be standard equipment. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread pnstenquist
How the test is conducted can have a LOT to do with the results. Even a slight underexposure increases noise levels a large amount. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] My understanding is that noise has as much to do with the firmware

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Don Williams
This is driving me barking mad! Don Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread David J Brooks
This was talked about , on the Nikon D1 BB, when people started aquiring their 10mp Nikons, D2X and D200, was that camera shake became more noticable with the jump from 4-10 mp. Its not an issue they say if the old shutter rule is applied( keep shutter at least to lens focal lenght) and or

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread David J Brooks
If its going to be the same size as the pro Nikon bodies, D2X etc, you;ll need more than a leash to old on to it. I use a wheel barrel and pry bar to help with neck fatique. :-) Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've heard that it won't come with a neck strap, but a leash will be standard

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Adam Maas
The widely varying performance is because some testers don't realize that the D70 and D50 use different but related sensors. The D100, *ists and KM bodies are all fairly similar in noise performance (and use the same sensor), the D70 is better but not massively so and the D50 is better to much

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 01:44:00 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 02:03:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D This is driving me barking mad! Don Better hide the teddy bears. Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread P. J. Alling
The K10D (or whatever the heck Pentax will be calling it), is reputed to have the Anti Shake system, the K110 does not. David J Brooks wrote: This was talked about , on the Nikon D1 BB, when people started aquiring their 10mp Nikons, D2X and D200, was that camera shake became more noticable

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Norman Baugher
From: Mark Roberts mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. Noise level would be way to high... Norm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Bob W
Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. Plenty of those already, I think. At least it won't be responsible for something like this. http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/02/britain.elvisbear. ap/index.html I'll bet

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Making assumptions about the Pentax 10Mpixel body before it's been shown is ridiculous. The Sony Alpha was on display at the Sony store in SF this evening. I spent a little time playing with it. Seems to focus well, has a decent viewfinder, and is responsive. The body isn't as nice a fit to

Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Found this over at dpreview: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19440192 It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3 stops extra

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread David Savage
At 11:00 AM 3/08/2006, you wrote: What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? And why? Joe I'm not planning anything. Without seeing sample images from the camera speculation on high ISO performance, or any other of the cameras features for that matter, are just

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. What is this K10D you speak of? Everyone I've spoken to has been very, very careful to

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread P. J. Alling
It's available for pre-order, whatever they're testing it must be close. Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread P. J. Alling
This is all moot since there's no way my current budget allows for more equipment. However, I've been worried about increased noise at higher ISOs since it became apparent that the Pentax would be using the same sensor as the Nikon. What I really want is a 10-13MP sensor with a 1.3 crop vs

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/08/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all moot since there's no way my current budget allows for more equipment. However, I've been worried about increased noise at higher ISOs since it became apparent that the Pentax would be using the same sensor as the Nikon. What I

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread Kenneth Waller
What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? And why? I've already asked my Pentax contact for cost availability. 10mp would require less interpolation for 13X19 prints. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stumped Over K10D

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Pre-order with delivery when? And why assume that just because the camera is close to market that the demo body was made recently? Any pre-release body is a bad subject for tests. -Aaron -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Stumped Over K10D Date: Wed

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D I've got the money just sitting there waiting for this camera... Yup. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread P. J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Stumped Over K10D Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:55 pm Size: 1012 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net It's available for pre-order, whatever they're testing it must be close. Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote

Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-02 Thread Jim Apilado
It took me well over a year before I got the *ist D. It could take that long, again, with the K10D. Jim A. What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? And why? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net --