William Robb wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but the US system is designed to protect the
rights of the individual as it's primary mandate.
A republic!
The Canadian model seems to differ somewhat, in that it protects the
rights of society, often at the expense of individual rights and
From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/09 Thu AM 10:31:33 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
William Robb wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but the US system is designed to protect the
rights of the individual
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/8/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, but they made up for it by questioning a couple of hippies with
cameras. So it's all good. g
No.
Dave's a hippy. I'm a beatnik.
But, your point is well-taken.
Hell, if I was a border guard,
We have a very strange idea over on this side of the border that a person is
presumed innocent until proven guilty. False arrest is actionable. The guy
could have used the chain saw to cut up a deer or something. One does not have
to assume human blood, in fact sane people would not.
graywolf
That implies very bad things about the US and Canada.
Mark Roberts wrote:
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/8/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, but they made up for it by questioning a couple of hippies with
cameras. So it's all good. g
No.
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html
Tom Reese
CNN failed to provide a photo. Fox delivers:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158841,00.html
On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html
Tom Reese
--
Scott Loveless
On 8/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html
aka Brad Dobo!
shiver
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html
Tom Reese
I don't see what the problem was. He killed the guy in Canada. It's
not like he was going to use the bloodied weapons to do bad stuff in
the
Sure makes me feel secure
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html
Tom Reese
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure makes me feel secure
Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for
1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why?
'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to
travel
-
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure makes me feel secure
Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for
1/2 hour while they ask us questions
He was questioned, Frank. They asked him where he got that neat chain saw.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: frank theriault
And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual
weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked.
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 11:48:10 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 8/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 12:23:43 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure makes me feel secure
Well, in all seriousness, they give
On 8/6/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
I also don't know what the problem was with the 'Murricans at the
border letting Dave and me in. When they saw the camera gear, and
asked us what it was for, we said that we were going to various
nuclear power facilities and military bases
On 8/6/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
He was questioned, Frank. They asked him where he got that neat chain saw.
LOL.
Probably referred him to a tool center where he could get it sharpened.
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 8/6/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Ooh, I spy a lawsuit on the horizon. That's your chances of getting into
the States next year reduced to zero. 8-)
That's alright Mike. You can give me a character ref - - in person. Any
chance you're up to it ?
Cheers,
Cotty
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 02:16:51 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 8/6/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
I also don't know what the problem was with the 'Murricans
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 02:19:51 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 8/6/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Ooh, I spy a lawsuit on the horizon. That's your chances
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure makes me feel secure
Well
There's one on CNN's site not as well. These photos don't look real
somehow, more like the VR simulations in video games...
Scott Loveless wrote:
CNN failed to provide a photo. Fox delivers:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158841,00.html
On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't think of that, till now...
Cotty wrote:
On 8/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html
aka Brad Dobo!
shiver
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places,
I'd worry about Frank, but they might appoint me to be his keeper, if I
admitted it.
frank theriault wrote:
On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
they let almost anyone in:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html
Tom Reese
I don't see what the
Almost?
frank theriault wrote:
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure makes me feel secure
Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for
1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why?
'Cause we have camera gear, and they
Somehow that reminds me of the movie Airplane II. Remember, where they let the
terrorists with their weapons through the gate then slam a grandmother type up
against the wall and search her?
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Since he and Dave insisted that they were going down to NC to meet a bunch of
guys from the internet at a camera clinic and told the Border Patrol guys all
about PDML, so Homeland Security is now monitoring this list, I would be a fool
to take that bet.
GRIN! (I hope)
BTW, I imagine they
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:23:43AM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure makes me feel secure
Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for
1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why?
'Cause we
As a US citizen they could not keep him out. They were looking for a reason to
arrest him.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
John Francis wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:23:43AM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
On 6/8/05,
BTW, I imagine they thought Dave and Frank were smuggling pot. Hell, when I
saw them
together I thought they were smuggling pot.
Dave looks like a burnt-out hippy
You nailed that one,Tom.:-)
, and Frank looks like a burnt-out beatnik. Together they
Our constitution guarantees the right to bear guns, not cameras. g
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/08/05 8:16 AM
On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Sent: 08 June 2005 13:24
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure makes me feel secure
Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for
1/2 hour while
I think that's arms. I wonder if they've thought to make Nukes illegal
for private citizens...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Our constitution guarantees the right to bear guns, not cameras. g
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540)
Especially if you use it in religious observances.
J wrote:
The First Amendment gives you the right to bear a camera...,,
At 01:48 PM 6/8/05, you wrote:
Our constitution guarantees the right to bear guns, not cameras. g
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee
I thought it was the right to bare arms, and that was why so many rednecks
wear vests.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 June 2005 19:44
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought it was the right to bare arms, and that was why so many rednecks
wear vests.
No, it's the right to arm bears, which is the real reason grizzlies are
so dangerous.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
No, No, No you've got it all wrong.
The Constitution guarantees us the right to arm bears,
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got
wrong.
The Constitution guarantees us the right to arm bears,
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
I think that's
@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
I think that's arms. I wonder if they've thought to make Nukes illegal
for private citizens...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
Our constitution guarantees the right to bear guns
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
I think that's arms. I wonder if they've thought to make Nukes
illegal for private citizens...
Steve
On 6/8/05, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No questions asked ?
I'd suggest reading the actual story.
Thet detained the guy for over two hours, trying to find some
reason for keeping him out (an outstanding warrant somewhere, etc.).
Absent that, and because the guy is a US citizen,
On 6/8/05, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our constitution guarantees the right to bear guns, not cameras. g
Next year, Dave and I are gonna smear our cameras with blood. That
should make it easier to cross.
cheers,
frank
LOL
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri
On 6/8/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This we had no choice, we had to let him in thing is a pile of crap.
They f***ed up, is what they did. Big time.
Yeah, but they made up for it by questioning a couple of hippies with
cameras. So it's all good. g
--
Scott Loveless
On 6/8/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, but they made up for it by questioning a couple of hippies with
cameras. So it's all good. g
No.
Dave's a hippy. I'm a beatnik.
But, your point is well-taken.
Hell, if I was a border guard, I wouldn't let me in either...
cheers,
On 6/8/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/8/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, but they made up for it by questioning a couple of hippies with
cameras. So it's all good. g
No.
Dave's a hippy. I'm a beatnik.
My mistake. Sorry, Dave. vbg
--
Scott
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
I know this was at a border crossing, but I can't believe that the
crossing guards couldn't come up with something to keep him while they
called the cops to come get him
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