Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
of optical viewfinders What difference does the optical viewfinder make in this case? As long as it is not a RF, you would notice, whether its an optical or electronic. (And it looks like the guys figured it out before he took a shot.) Once in a while, I pull my camera out quickly, start with changing

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2013-02-08 Thread George Sinos
I must have come into the middle of a discussion. Are you saying that you focus with the camera turned off, then turn it on and hit the shutter button? That sounds like an unusual method of work. I'm a little confused here. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
No, I'm saying that the focusing screen was unusable for manual focusing when the camera was not powered up. No matter how you turned the focusing ring the viewfinder seemed dark and unfocused. Once power was turned on the viewfinder brightened and manual focus was possible... Well mostly,

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2013-01-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Idiot using live view when he has one of the best OVFs in the business... On 8/2/2012 2:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-03 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of James King Bob W wrote on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:45:50 -0700: I've got one of those on my trousers. What? You mean you have one one that divides into three pieces and extends less than one inch??? You probably

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-03 Thread Igor Roshchin
What difference does the optical viewfinder make in this case? As long as it is not a RF, you would notice, whether its an optical or electronic. (And it looks like the guys figured it out before he took a shot.) Once in a while, I pull my camera out quickly, start with changing the mode and

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
originale- From: Igor Roshchin Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:20 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders What difference does the optical viewfinder make in this case? As long as it is not a RF, you would notice, whether its an optical or electronic

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-03 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
and got down to work. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Sent: August 3, 2012 8/3/12 To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread Mark Roberts
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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread Kenton Brede
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA I just got a Zeiss Ikon ZM. I haven't done it yet, but I'm just waiting for the day that I leave the lens cap on. -- Kent Brede http://kentonbrede.com/ -- PDML

RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA let him who is without sin cast the first stone... O:( B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hate it when that happens. I worried about it using the X2, but fixed the problem with a little accessory: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/leica-X2-auto-cap.jpg On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA --

RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread Bob W
I've got one of those on my trousers. B Hate it when that happens. I worried about it using the X2, but fixed the problem with a little accessory: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/leica-X2-auto-cap.jpg On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread Kenneth Waller
You can tell he is a pro, he never showed a look of surprise when he took off the cap. -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA -- Mark Roberts - Photography

RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread James King
Bob W wrote on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:45:50 -0700: I've got one of those on my trousers. What? You mean you have one one that divides into three pieces and extends less than one inch??? You probably shouldn't make a public announcement... Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2012-08-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
TMI... On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM, James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Bob W wrote on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:45:50 -0700: I've got one of those on my trousers. What? You mean you have one one that divides into three pieces and extends less than one inch??? You probably shouldn't make

Rocks Viewfinders

2012-02-09 Thread Don Guthrie
There's been some discussion about view finders and their virtues. My 1st Pentax slr was actually a Ricoh which used the pentax screw-mount . I can't remember the model but it's still around the basement somewhere and I still have the lenses (mostly Sears JC Penny). I picked this model

Viewfinders

2007-01-26 Thread Walter Hamler
I found te discussion on the comparisons among various camera viewfinders interesting. It brougt back memories of past cameras :-) As a recent buyer of the K10 and still having the istDL, I honestly have not paid a lot of attention between the two viewfinders. This PM I took both out with zoom

Re: viewfinders

2006-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 20, 2006, at 1:24 AM, John Whittingham wrote: I thought Pentax DSLR's had probably the best viewfinders of any sub $1000 DSLR, not that I'd lose any sleep over it -:) I have compared the Nikon D200 against the Pentax *ist DS. I find them about equal in viewfinder quality

Re: viewfinders

2006-12-20 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 20, 2006, at 1:24 AM, John Whittingham wrote: I thought Pentax DSLR's had probably the best viewfinders of any sub $1000 DSLR, not that I'd lose any sleep over it -:) I have compared the Nikon D200 against the Pentax *ist DS. I find them about equal

Re: viewfinders

2006-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
impression, might have been a different lens. I didn't think it necessary to say that D200/D80/*ist DS/K10D all have pretty darn good viewfinders. The tiny differences between them are insignificant. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: viewfinders

2006-12-20 Thread Adam Maas
it could well have been a mistaken impression, might have been a different lens. I didn't think it necessary to say that D200/D80/*ist DS/K10D all have pretty darn good viewfinders. The tiny differences between them are insignificant. Godfrey If it was the kit 18-135 on the D80

RE: viewfinders

2006-12-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
in particular you noticed as different. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:29 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: viewfinders On Dec 20, 2006, at 1:24 AM, John Whittingham

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-18 Thread graywolf
for that without the variable diopter. Same here. Things have gotten a little odd with my no-line glasses and cameras, over the last months. All my viewfinders are blurry unless I look into them from a distance of about 3 to 4 inches. Sole exception: an old Kiev 60 prism that used

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-18 Thread luben karavelov
graywolf wrote: Just a bit of historical interest. Back in the 1960's the thing to do was have an Exacta rotating eyecup adapted to your camera. Not only did it have a place for a diopter, but the diopter rotated with the eyecup so you could have your optician make one with astigmatism

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-18 Thread graywolf
I don't think they directly fit anything but the old VX series Exactas, as I remember there was a place in NYC that adapted them to Nikon F's that was about 1961-62. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- luben karavelov wrote:

Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a special set of lenses made up for that without the variable diopter. Same here. Things have gotten a little odd with my no-line glasses and cameras, over the last months. All my viewfinders are blurry unless I look into them from a distance

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 17, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Things have gotten a little odd with my no-line glasses and cameras, over the last months. All my viewfinders are blurry unless I look into them from a distance of about 3 to 4 inches. Sole exception: an old Kiev 60 prism that used

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/11/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: If you're experiencing a quick change in your vision like that, it's time to go see your eye doctor. MARK!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-) Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it normal camera

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're experiencing a quick change in your vision like that, it's time to go see your eye doctor. Well, not that quick. My optician says everything is normal for someone of my age (early 50s). Other than the viewfinder problem, my vision hasn't

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread graywolf
no-line glasses and cameras, over the last months. All my viewfinders are blurry unless I look into them from a distance of about 3 to 4 inches. Sole exception: an old Kiev 60 prism that used to be blurry before now is tack-sharp. The former one that worked well for years now doesn't. Now

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread Fred
Now, is there someone around here who can make any sense of all this? Well, not I - g. I'm wondering though, now, Ralf, how you would find using the special finders on your new LX (specifically, the FB1 base fitted with the FC-1 action finder)... Further info: I am far-sighted and my eyes

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread Fred
I'm wondering though, now, Ralf, how you would find using the special finders on your new LX (specifically, the FB1 base fitted with the FC-1 action finder)... The FC-1 has an eyepoint of 60mm, as compared to the other LX finders, whose eyepoints are generally 15mm or so. To me, the effect of

Re: Viewfinders and no-line glasses - was: Life is beautiful :-)

2005-11-17 Thread luben karavelov
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a special set of lenses made up for that without the variable diopter. Same here. Things have gotten a little odd with my no-line glasses and cameras, over the last months. All my viewfinders are blurry

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Charles Robinson
for a half minute is that the ME Super viewfinder looked brighter probably just because the image was so LARGE through there. Even if both viewfinders have the same intensity of light coming off of the focusing screen to the user's eye, the older (larger) viewfinders are going to seem brighter

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
to use. CR My impression, based on the non-scientific method of having just CR looked through one for a half minute is that the ME Super viewfinder CR looked brighter probably just because the image was so LARGE through CR there. Even if both viewfinders have the same intensity of light CR coming off

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce ... A good point, although one I cannot really comment upon other than to say I've never used a lens as slow as a 5.6 so I cannot make any comparisons. However, I have used a number of 3,5 lenses on cameras from the original Spottie through the LX, and have ~just~ started to use them on

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. When I put a 50mm f/1.4 lens on both MX and DS, and bring them both to my eyes like a pair of binoculars, the image brightness and magnification is the same. The biggest difference is that the MX viewfinder is larger and shows a larger field of view, so the total brightness of the

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Also, the MX viewfinder has a shorter eye relief, which makes it harder to see the edges of the frame without moving my eye around. The DS sits just right for my vision with glasses. Having to move my eye around (and the split finder which did not

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Also, the MX viewfinder has a shorter eye relief, which makes it harder to see the edges of the frame without moving my eye around. The DS sits just right for my vision with glasses. Having to move my eye around (and the split finder

Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread Juan Buhler
I picked up my MX last night. I heven't used that camera in over a year. The size of the viewfinder and its brightness, compared to the istD, makes me want to cry. I know the istD viewfinder is not too bad, by current standards. But what would it take for a not full frame camera like the istD to

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:30, Juan Buhler wrote: I picked up my MX last night. I heven't used that camera in over a year. The size of the viewfinder and its brightness, compared to the istD, makes me want to cry. I know the istD viewfinder is not too bad, by current standards. But what would it

RE: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Juan ... I essentially made the same comment a few days ago. As nice as the Pentax DSLR viewfinders are supposed to be, they do not compare favorably with the view through the Leica, MX, LX, and even the earlier K-body cameras. Thus far, I enjoy using the Leicas and the MX far more than

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread Juan Buhler
... j On 10/2/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Juan ... I essentially made the same comment a few days ago. As nice as the Pentax DSLR viewfinders are supposed to be, they do not compare favorably with the view through the Leica, MX, LX, and even the earlier K-body cameras. Thus

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread Juan Buhler
On 10/2/05, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think about it, there's no way that a smaller screen could possibly look as big and bright in a viewfinder. Less total light hitting the surface area of the screen = less light to your eyes. No way around that without some sort of

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread Thibouille
Or maybe a full frame viewfinder with the system which Pentax used with their Panoramic mode... So you can cycle between full frame/actual framing. Of course actual framing will be less enlarged but... well, dream! 2005/10/2, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/2/05, Charles Robinson [EMAIL

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: RE: Viewfinders You've made an interesting discovery in that we often get used to something - in this case the DSLR viewfinder - and forget what we've lost or given up. It's easy to say how good the D and DS finders are compared

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread keith_w
Juan Buhler wrote: I picked up my MX last night. I heven't used that camera in over a year. The size of the viewfinder and its brightness, compared to the istD, makes me want to cry. I know the istD viewfinder is not too bad, by current standards. But what would it take for a not full frame

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread John Francis
. Looking through the viewfinders, magnification and brightness looks as close to identical as I can measure with the naked eye. Sure, the image area in the MX viewfinder covers a larger angle than what I see through the *ist-D; that's because of the crop due to the smaller sensor. And in any case

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Which makes critical composing somewhat difficult ... at least it does for me. Shel [Original Message] From: John Francis And in any case you won't find any AF Camera with as large a viewfinder image as you get in the MX; there has to be somewhere to display the additional information.

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread graywolf
Except to match the MX the *istD viewfinder would have to have a 1.425x magnification, and you would need to use a 1/2 stop faster lens to get the same brightness, everything else being equal. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof ---

Re: Viewfinders

2005-10-02 Thread John Francis
Actually, you'd need a whole one stop faster a lens if you wanted to enlarge the (cropped) viewfinder image of a *ist-D to match the size of the viewfinder image in the MX. But that's not relevant. The complaint was that the *ist-D didn't have the same brightness, or the same magnification, as

DL DS viewfinders compared side by side

2005-07-24 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I had the chance to compare DL and Ds side by side in a shop. I didn't go too deep since I was not going to buy any of them so I didn't want to take too much time from the seller. They had no batteries so the most obvious thing to compare were construction feeling and wiewfinder. The DL was silver

Re: DL DS viewfinders compared side by side

2005-07-24 Thread Carlos Royo
About the viewfinder, both had a Sigma 18-125 mounted. Although my brain was all the time: 'remember, the DS has a pentaprism and the DL a pentamirror...', my eyes could't see the difference. Actually, if someone tells me 'you MUST choose the brighter', I would choose the DL. Jaume, did you

Re: DL DS viewfinders compared side by side

2005-07-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd check the focusing ability which is easier. I'd bet the Ds... Carlos Royo wrote: About the viewfinder, both had a Sigma 18-125 mounted. Although my brain was all the time: 'remember, the DS has a pentaprism and the DL a pentamirror...', my eyes could't see the difference. Actually, if

Re: DL DS viewfinders compared side by side

2005-07-24 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
As I said, it was a quick comparison...and I didn't perceived differences in magnification when changing between one and the other. I am sure that, with more time, I could have find it... My point is that I expected the difference to be more obvious. Anyway, there are other differences that make

Viewfinders with an aperture window (was: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D)

2004-09-21 Thread paul . stregevsky
Don't forget early Ricoh XR bodies, like the XR-1 XR-1s (manual exposure only), XR-2 and XR-2s (manual or aperture priority), and their Sears twins, like my two KS Auto bodies. Some later XR bodies, too (XR-6? XR-7? XR-10?), and their Sears twins. Doe any Chinon bodies have an aperture window?

Re: Viewfinders

2004-06-20 Thread John Whittingham
-0700 Subject: Re: Viewfinders I think MZ-3 has pentaprism which is the selling point. Unfortunately, it was married with low quality eyepiece, just like all other MZ models except the MZ-S. Alan Chan ICQ: 42516180 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan While your on the subject, what's in the MZ

Re: Viewfinders

2004-06-20 Thread John Whittingham
That's very reassuring to know. John John Whittingham Technician -- Original Message --- From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:39:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Viewfinders Pentaprism. John Whittingham wrote: While your

Viewfinders

2004-06-19 Thread Joseph Tainter
I've never understood the material/construction differences between the different qualities of viewfinder. Could someone explain it? Thanks, Joe

Re: Viewfinders

2004-06-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! JT I've never understood the material/construction differences between the JT different qualities of viewfinder. Could someone explain it? Joe I know of two parameters: 1. Penta Prism (old and/or expensive) vs Penta Mirror (modern and/or cheap) - construction. 2. Coated glass vs Plastic of

Re: Viewfinders

2004-06-19 Thread graywolf
poorly made porro prism is a piece of junk. -- Joseph Tainter wrote: 1. Penta Prism (old and/or expensive) vs Penta Mirror (modern and/or cheap) - construction. Thanks, Boris. Those were the terms I was looking for. But what is the difference between prism and mirror viewfinders? Don't prism

Re: Viewfinders

2004-06-19 Thread John Whittingham
While your on the subject, what's in the MZ-3? John John Whittingham Technician -- Original Message --- From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:05:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Viewfinders A pentaprism is a 5 sided solid glass prism. A penta

Re: Viewfinders

2004-06-19 Thread Herb Chong
a porro prism is a solid piece of glass. Herb - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Viewfinders A well made (expensive) porro prism (another name for a mirror prism) is almost as good

Viewfinders and TTL on top

2003-12-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Having just been enabled with an AF080C, I thought I would ask a question about people's opinions on an old (= cheap) Pentax with a decent viewfinder and TTL. My background follows. I have an MZ-50 and an MZ-5n. They are meant to differ a lot in viewfinder capability, but I honestly cannot see

Re: Viewfinders and TTL on top

2003-12-01 Thread William Johnson
I only have the ME super and ZX5n to compare the Super A to, and it is somewhere between the two of them. Well, I actually have a P3n (same viewfinder as a P30) and it is decidely better than that. Probably closer in brightness (but not quite) to the ME super with the magnification of the P30.

RE: Viewfinders and TTL on top

2003-12-01 Thread John Daniele
finder on the tripod. Light entering the finder on the other listed cameras will affect exposure readings. JD -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Viewfinders and TTL on top Having

Re: digital viewfinders

2003-11-01 Thread Herb Chong
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: Re: digital viewfinders Must prove something, Steve. But I am not sure what. I remember watching at GFM during the Camera Clinic and about 90% of the tourists (not the more photographically sophisticated clinic attendees) were still using

Re: digital viewfinders

2003-11-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
Maybe. I do wonder if the use of the digital is so distinctive (looking at the back screen) that I only noticed these. I did try to pay attention the rest of the day, and all the cameras I saw were those boxier digitals, as opposed to the more rectangular film PS models. Steven Desjardins

Re: digital viewfinders

2003-11-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
I think some one already has. At least I remeber that there was some attachment for the Coolpix 500 that cover the LCD so it made a better viewfinder. I think is was eye level, however. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873

digital viewfinders

2003-10-31 Thread Steve Desjardins
A few days ago, I was looking as a friends Rollei MF camera with a waist level finder. Since it's parent's weekend here at the college, I have also noticed many folks taking shots using the LCD screen and not the viewfinder (I'm yet to see a film camera this today). It strikes me that it would

Re: digital viewfinders

2003-10-31 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Steve Desjardins wrote: A few days ago, I was looking as a friends Rollei MF camera with a waist level finder. Since it's parent's weekend here at the college, I have also noticed many folks taking shots using the LCD screen and not the viewfinder (I'm yet to see a film

Re: digital viewfinders

2003-10-31 Thread Jim Apilado
: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:00:14 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: digital viewfinders Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:00:32 -0500 A few days ago, I was looking as a friends Rollei MF camera with a waist level finder. Since it's parent's weekend here

Re: digital viewfinders

2003-10-31 Thread Leonard Paris
How about the Canon G1, G2, G3, and G5. As well as some of the Nikon CoolPix models. Len --- * There's room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes. From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: digital viewfinders

Re: digital viewfinders

2003-10-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: A few days ago, I was looking as a friends Rollei MF camera with a waist level finder. Since it's parent's weekend here at the college, I have also noticed many folks taking shots using the LCD screen and not the viewfinder (I'm yet to see a film camera

Viewfinders

2003-03-16 Thread Paul Eriksson
Mike article over at photo.net got me thinking. The basic *ist's viewfinder doesn't seem too exciting and the *ist D's viewfinder seem's ok, but I guess we'll know more when it comes out this summer. Right now I have a ZX-L with a fairly bad viewfinder, what are the chances of a good

Re: Viewfinders

2003-03-16 Thread Alan Chan
I think you shouldn't expect too much from any of the future models, except perhaps the flagship model if there will ever be any (MZ-S is an indication). regards, Alan Chan Mike article over at photo.net got me thinking. The basic *ist's viewfinder doesn't seem too exciting and the *ist D's

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread Keith Whaley
I have Pentax' brochure on the K1000, and it says 0.88x magnification with standard 50mm lens, focused at infinity. Are you saying that's incorrect? Or did you mispeak, and you really meant the KX? Mike Johnston wrote: The manual I have shows 93% coverage and .88% magnification for the KX.

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 No one knows the coverage of the K1000. I suspect not even Pentax knows. It was a closely guarded secret during the cold war, Illogical. From my experience with K1000's, the reason no one

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread Keith Whaley
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 No one knows the coverage of the K1000. I suspect not even Pentax knows. It was a closely guarded secret during the cold war, Illogical. From my experience

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
I have Pentax' brochure on the K1000, and it says 0.88x magnification with standard 50mm lens, focused at infinity. Are you saying that's incorrect? Or did you mispeak, and you really meant the KX? That's magnification, not coverage. Two different kettles of fish. The manual I have shows

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
From my experience with K1000's, the reason no one knows the viewfinder coverage is because there was so much sample to sample variance that they couldn't publish an absolute value. Well, now, that's logical enough ~ but since they DID 'publish' it, I'm supposing you're simply telling me

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mike Johnston Subject: Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 Sample variation for coverage makes no sense at all to me. I don't think they could do that if they tried. I can, however, believe that the spec was changed from run to run, which would account

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread Keith Whaley
Mike Johnston wrote: I have Pentax' brochure on the K1000, and it says 0.88x magnification with standard 50mm lens, focused at infinity. Are you saying that's incorrect? Or did you mispeak, and you really meant the KX? That's magnification, not coverage. Two different kettles of

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
I went straight to my Magic Lantern Guide for the K, M and Spotmatic series, and find the K1000 is in yet another one of their books...which I've not bought yet. Hmmm. Keith, I'll save you the trouble: the coverage figure is not in there, either. And my buddy at Pentax cannot find a spec

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-17 Thread Joe Wilensky
According to Carl Shipman's How to Select Use Pentax SLR Cameras (HP Books, edition with 1980 as the last copyright date), the Pentax K1000 specifications are: Magnification: .87 with 50mm lenses, life-size with 55mm lenses Viewfinder shows 95% of the frame The same book lists .88 with 50mm

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-16 Thread Peter Alling
The manual I have shows 93% coverage and .88% magnification for the KX. At 10:09 PM 2/15/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. I also need the depth of the KX

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-16 Thread Peter Alling
At 12:54 PM 2/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: The manual I have shows 93% coverage and .88% magnification for the KX. So that should be 88% mag. At 10:09 PM 2/15/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-16 Thread Mike Johnston
The manual I have shows 93% coverage and .88% magnification for the KX. No one knows the coverage of the K1000. I suspect not even Pentax knows. It was a closely guarded secret during the cold war, and now no one can located the files where the information was kept. It's fated to remain an

Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-15 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. I also need the depth of the KX body without a lens attached. And let me be optimistic, the weight of the KX-motor and KM-motor bodies would be

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. K10000.88x mag (with 50mm lens, focused at infinity) Doesn't mention coverage. -- Mark Roberts

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-15 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii - Original Message - From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:09 PM Subject: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-15 Thread Fred
Hi, Boz. Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. From the KX manual - 0.88x magnification with 50mm lenses (life-size with 55mm lens). Dioptry -0.8. 93% field of view. The depth is

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-15 Thread David Brooks
Boz. I have the K1000 manual. I'll be right back:) Dave Begin Original Message From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 22:09:49 +0100 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above

Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000

2003-02-15 Thread David Brooks
Brooks Begin Original Message From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 22:09:49 +0100 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about

viewfinders

2002-11-12 Thread tom
An excerpt from Michael H. Reichmann's Hassleblad H1 review on photo.net: When I first brought the camera up to my eye I was immediately taken with how bright and clear the viewfinder is. Up until now my gold standard for camera viewfinders has been the current Pentax 645 NII. I didn’t have one

USM, AF, viewfinders and the competition

2002-03-20 Thread Rob Brigham
I tried out an F80 today, with a USM(or whatever they call it) lens, and although it was quiet and silky smooth, it didnt achieve focus lock any faster than my Pentaxes. The motor moved to the right 'region' of focus quicker, but it then did a lot of fidgetting before deciding it was happy - my

Re: USM, AF, viewfinders and the competition

2002-03-20 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
FWIW, it's an AF-S lens. If the light level was low, the AF may hunt when using all but the center AF sensor, since that is the only cross pattern one. I also don't know how the AF was configured. In single shot mode the default is to find the closest subject based on the reading from all the

Pentax AF viewfinders

2001-10-31 Thread Pål Audun Jensen
Erik wrote: One of the things I've noticed with the modern AF cameras is the overall degeneration of the viewfinders compared to mechanical cameras. Reply: I haven't noticed this at all..Quite the oposite in fact. Erik: Why is it so difficult to put a decent viewfinder on the newer models

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