Re: DA* 16-50/2.8

2007-08-07 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Aug 7, 2007, at 6:28 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: The lens is in my possession. I picked it up about 2 minutes before the shop closed. Unfortunately, it was too late to do much with it. I have put it on the K10D and played around with the SDM and general zooming. If anyone has any questions,

Re: GESO - San Jose Grand Prix

2007-08-07 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 02:44:16PM +0100, Peter Lacus wrote: Hi John, The gallery is here: http://www.jfwaf.com/SJGP/ interesting bokeh on http://www.jfwaf.com/SJGP/pages/SJGP37.html;. Which lens was it shot with? ;-) That's the 250-600 all the way out at 600mm, and just slightly

PESO -- Mews, Stony Creek

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/stonycreek/mews.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who

Re: GESO - San Jose Grand Prix

2007-08-07 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:23:15PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: A lot of really excellent shots here. Your motorsports work is truly top shelf. Good stuff! Paul I appreciate the kind words, especially from someone who has worked some motorsports events. I took a look at the photos posted

K10D SR and action photography

2007-08-07 Thread John Francis
I've just used my K10D for a weekend of motorsports photography. This is the first time I've tried using the shake reduction while panning, and I was interested to see how it would work. The short answer is - very well. According to some technical reports that I've seen the shake reduction is

RE: Ghost bike

2007-08-07 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/06 Mon PM 09:15:13 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Ghost bike it's not giving me permission to do anything either, and I pay the bills! I think clara.net must have her knickers in a twist. -- Bob I was

Re: PESO -- Mews, Stony Creek

2007-08-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/8/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who know. cognacotty: I told you so -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Ghost bike

2007-08-07 Thread David Mann
On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Bob W wrote: it's not giving me permission to do anything either, and I pay the bills! Are you really sure you paid the bill? :) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K10D SR and action photography

2007-08-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 02:33:22 -0400 (EDT), John Francis wrote One thing that does have a problem, though, is using an AF TC (such as my 1.4x) with an AF lens. The camera thinks that the focal length in use is that of the lens, and there's no way to override it! This guarantees that the shake

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Toralf Lund
Steve Desjardins wrote: I think part of this is that most people (Notice the most part) prefer to shoot color in digital. So they have these nice film cameras lying around and decide to try BW. Actually, though I wonder what format will survive. 35 mm was convenient but as the cameras

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Toralf Lund
Bob Shell wrote: On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Toralf Lund wrote: Actually, I've heard (or read) people claim that the Rollei film is being manufactured today - by some company that bought the entire production line from AgfaPhoto. I'm sure you find some details on the web if you care to

Re: K10D SR and action photography

2007-08-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello John, Were you panning fully handheld or were you using a monopod? -- Bruce Monday, August 6, 2007, 11:33:22 PM, you wrote: JF I've just used my K10D for a weekend of motorsports photography. JF This is the first time I've tried using the shake reduction while JF panning, and I was

RE: Ghost bike

2007-08-07 Thread Bob W
I was worried you had set an eyebrow filter. Still at it this morning. No, I like to keep it lowbrow. My guess is it's not a high enough priority host (being pitched at the home market) to get anyone out of bed to resolve. I expect it'll be back sometime after 9am uk time. -- Bob

DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
It seems to be excellent performer, in picture center almost as good as FA 77 at the same aperture!!! http://forum.digitalfotonetz.com/viewtopic.php?t=38914 Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Ghost bike

2007-08-07 Thread Bob W
it's back now -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 07 August 2007 08:41 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Ghost bike I was worried you had set an eyebrow filter. Still at it this morning.

Re: Question: How much noise does a 645 camera make

2007-08-07 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Aug 5, 2007, at 7:52 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: So I went and bought a used 645. It is a noisy thing. I can hear the winder moving the film and paper backing. This is a lot different than 35mm, even with a winder! Noisy, but mirror is as well damped as in ordinary 35 mm SLR... nce :-)

POG - Minority review

2007-08-07 Thread AlunFoto
New acronym suggestion: POG for Pentax Online Gallery. Not exactly off-topic, but I sense that this has limited interest anyway. Then into rant mode. Warning, this is long. It's the sort of post that happens when you've thought about something for too long. :-) Flipping through the Pentax

Re: K10D SR and action photography

2007-08-07 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/08/07, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, irritates the life out of me. Could easily be fixed with a firmware update allowing manual override. Absolutely, along with enabling the thumb wheel as a selector to save having to jab repeatedly at the hideous little joystick. --

Re: Question: How much noise does a 645 camera make

2007-08-07 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/08/07, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noisy, but mirror is as well damped as in ordinary 35 mm SLR... nce :-) The mirror action is probably better than most 35mm SLRs really as it has a variable rate, very low mirror slap when used hand held. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/08/07, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be excellent performer, in picture center almost as good as FA 77 at the same aperture!!! http://forum.digitalfotonetz.com/viewtopic.php?t=38914 There is a sample pic on the Pentax Japan site of a motocross rider shot with

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote: I have a friend who owns another store that is virtually all film cameras (Classic Camera in Biddeford Maine). His sales are steady as well, though he makes most of his money repairing film cameras. He has as much repair business as he can

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread Peter Fairweather
Should be some cheap FA 77's for sale soon!! Peter On 07/08/07, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be excellent performer, in picture center almost as good as FA 77 at the same aperture!!! http://forum.digitalfotonetz.com/viewtopic.php?t=38914 Cheers, Sylwek --

Re: POG - Minority review

2007-08-07 Thread Toine
I can't speak up for the other side. It's indeed very difficult to vote yes/no for ALL the photos presented to me in the Pentax gallery voting system, for many genres I'm only a viewer. I have great respect for the judges, the resulting gallery is impressive. If they decided to drop the voting

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
Wishful thinking? You'd have to pry mine from my cold dead hand. Cheers, Dave On 8/7/07, Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be some cheap FA 77's for sale soon!! Peter On 07/08/07, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be excellent performer, in picture

Re: PESO -- Mews, Stony Creek

2007-08-07 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/07 Tue AM 07:08:14 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Mews, Stony Creek On 7/8/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Cassino wrote: OK - so when a superior technology comes along, the old technology dies off and is gone completely. Like horse drawn buggies (replaced by automobiles): http://www.liveryone.net/ snip Good points, all. And they probably illustrate the ultimate end of film: That of a small

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Toralf Lund
You're not on point though Dave (IMO). I cannot go and buy a new vinyl record of any CD I want, can I? Obviously, you can't, but I wouldn't be surprised if you get a higher percentage on vinyl today than you did, say, 10 years ago. Just after CDs got popular. vinyl was just plain obsolete.

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
On 8/7/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wishful thinking? You'd have to pry mine from my cold dead hand. I'm holding on to mine with both hands.:-) Dave Cheers, Dave On 8/7/07, Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be some cheap FA 77's for sale soon!! Peter

RE: Ghost bike

2007-08-07 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/07 Tue AM 07:41:00 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Ghost bike I was worried you had set an eyebrow filter. Still at it this morning. No, I like to keep it lowbrow. My guess is it's not a high

Re: OT: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
As Adam stated, Quebec does not want to associate with Canada. They want to be independent, but seem to have no problem using the National services and taking Ottawa,s money, using our passports and such. July 1st is our country's birthday STS and one See's a lot of flags, except Quebec, then.

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
I always said, the referendum is done wrong. The rest of Canada should vote whether they stay or not. Dave On 8/7/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: OT: A flag question for Canadians Canada seems to be full of lags.

A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread Kamiel Wanrooij
(This message is a repost, since I got an error back last time) Hi, I just got the opportunity to buy one or both of these lenses (A* 85/1.4 and A* 135/1.8). As far as I've read and heard, these two are legendary performers from the manual product range. They appear to be somewhat rare, so I

Re: Peso My coffee cup tribute

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
On 8/6/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Took these at breakfast in Warrenville on route to GFM. I'm not sure which i like best. First one is colour, second is a basic BW conversion using LR's default greyscale.

RE: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Owens
The proper spelling is Y'all :-) Bill You'all just don't seem to be getting it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO -- Mews, Stony Creek

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/8/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who know. cognacotty: I told you so cognebotty: I know who did that.

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I always said, the referendum is done wrong. The rest of Canada should vote whether they stay or not. Yeah, but how do you jack up and move a whole province? And where would you put it? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread syb vis
I thought I read somewhere that the 85/1.8 was a better - and more legendary - lens than the /1.4 But I am not sure. You may want to know this: http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/showproduct.php?product=124cat=28 1000 dollar is a lot of money. On the other hand: you have the opportunitiy

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Steve Desjardins
OK, just how hard is it to produce BW film? I know to produce as much as Kodak or Fuji used to involves enormous QC issues. I can make beer in my kitchen whereas Budweiser needs fancy techniques to make 12% of the beer on the planet. So how hard would it be for a small company to put a BW

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread J
Both of the lenses are very good. I have them both. I do tend to use the 85 F1.4 more than the 135 F1.8. When I was doing newspaper work, they were both used a lot for low light photography. If you can put the money out, buy them, maybe you get at a lower price as some kind of deal..Joe At

PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread David Savage
...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo G'day All, Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the mix: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
Anywere but on my route to GFM :-) Dave On 8/7/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I always said, the referendum is done wrong. The rest of Canada should vote whether they stay or not. Yeah, but how do you jack up and move a whole

RE: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Owens
Mississippi? Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shell Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:24 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I always

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread J
There is a song called From My Dead Cold Hands by Dave Von Klus (I think that is the spelling), but this song is about guns and the 2nd amendment. At 06:42 AM 8/7/07, you wrote: Wishful thinking? You'd have to pry mine from my cold dead hand. Cheers, Dave On 8/7/07, Peter Fairweather

RE: PESO: Needs a little work

2007-08-07 Thread Steve Desjardins
Here's another shot. Not as good a picture, but it shows more of what was left, including and old blue bicycle frame. http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardins/ Maybe a real old BSA, although it could be Norton or Triumph - pre WWII. Looks like the headlight is non-electric -- PDML

Re: PESO -- Mt. Robson

2007-08-07 Thread Fernando
Beautiful, great execution. On 8/6/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/06/mount-robson/ After 12 hours of travel from Victoria, BC to Mount Robson Provincial Park on the BC/Alberta border, I was exhausted and slightly giddy. Managed to take this

Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo G'day All, Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the mix: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm Nice one! You've out-Franked Frank! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: DA* 16-50/2.8

2007-08-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
Now it is time for a serious reply ;-) Congratulation Bruce :-D Don't worry, I'm Harmless. I'm very curious about this lens, but so far, the info I've found on DPR and other places has been worhtless. In the weekend I was official photgrapher at a local rock festival. Two days of 20 gigs. A lot

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/08/07, Kamiel Wanrooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing is their price. The 85/1.4 goes for around $1000, the 135/1.8 for $2000. Apart from their specs, rarity, and the fact that they are somewhat a collector's item, are they worth anywhere near these prices? And is their

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians I thought we had a deal. You get Florida and California (or something like that) if you'd keep the Quebecois up north. I can't remember the last time I got on the freeway without a minivan

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians Yeah, but how do you jack up and move a whole province? And where would you put it? I'm thinking the Bermuda Triangle. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread Jack Davis
NRA mantra. Coined a few years back (as far as I know) by, then NRA President, Charlton Heston. Jack PS: I used it a couple years ago to express my feeling about parting with my LX. --- J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a song called From My Dead Cold Hands by Dave Von Klus (I think that

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Not just nostalgia, the special Master recordings available on Vinyl are the best sound available bar none, given a half competent turntable and amplifier. No CD I ever listened to could match them, and my ear isn't the best. That said I'm sure that some people just buy on rumor. Toralf Lund

Re: OT: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread frank theriault
On 8/6/07, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just returned from two weeks in Eastern Canada, and I observed a lot of flags in the various provinces up there. In Europe, some countries -- like Switzerland, Norway and Denmark -- seem to fly their national flags even more than we

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread Steve Desjardins
Oh please, no. An independent Quebec would be a vector for terrorist activity in the US. We would need to quarantine or invade them and then they'd be our problem. Can't we just nuke them and have done with it? David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2007 7:47 AM I always said, the referendum

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: OK, just how hard is it to produce BW film? I know to produce as much as Kodak or Fuji used to involves enormous QC issues. I can make beer in my kitchen whereas Budweiser needs fancy techniques to make 12% of the beer on the planet.

Re: DA* 16-50/2.8

2007-08-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
The lens is in my possession...If anyone has any questions, let me know Congratulations, Bruce. Please let us know how the SDM performs. I have seen a report that the production delay was caused in part by performance problems with the SDM--hunting, and problems locking focus at infinity.

Re: PESO -- Mt. Robson

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hamilton
Thanks to all who commented! Mike On 6-Aug-07, at 8:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that is a 'serious' mountain! -- Bruce Monday, August 6, 2007, 4:48:32 PM, you wrote: MH http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/06/mount-robson/ MH After 12 hours of travel from Victoria, BC to

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Atlantis. Bob Shell wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I always said, the referendum is done wrong. The rest of Canada should vote whether they stay or not. Yeah, but how do you jack up and move a whole province? And where would you put it? Bob

RE: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread Kamiel Wanrooij
Well, like I said in my original mail, I am definitely not only buying them as a tool. I have a 135/2.5 at the moment, which was dirt-cheap, and produces fantastic results. And yeah, I am definitely into gorgeous looking glass :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty thought enough of the A*85 to cruelly disfigure one to mate it with his Canon... I've always wanted the 135mm f1.8, it would make a wonderful ~200mm, (as preforming the roll of), on an APS digital camera. However at those prices I guess I just have to settle for my 135f 2.5 and put up

Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
The PUG should have a coffee cup theme... Mark Roberts wrote: David Savage wrote: ...Yet Another Coffee Cup Photo G'day All, Given the recent glut of coffee cup photos I thought I'd add one to the mix: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm Nice one!

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread keith_w
Bob Shell wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I always said, the referendum is done wrong. The rest of Canada should vote whether they stay or not. Yeah, but how do you jack up and move a whole province? And where would you put it? Bob Just south of Tijuana?

Re: OT: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: On 8/6/07, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just returned from two weeks in Eastern Canada, and I observed a lot of flags in the various provinces up there. In Europe, some countries -- like Switzerland, Norway and Denmark -- seem to fly their national

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb The industry as a whole is showing declines in sales of sensitized products (film) of some 20% per year, Fuji is (apparently) no longer making BW film or film cameras, Agfa is no longer making film, Kodak is no longer making BW paper and has offshored their film

Re: OT: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread frank theriault
On 8/6/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The 'Acadian' flag is a modern contrivance. It was designed in 1888. It's been accepted within the Acadian community for some time. Frank could possibly elucidate better, as IIRC he is Acadian (which btw, is the word that Cajun is derived

Re: PESO -- Mt. Robson

2007-08-07 Thread syb vis
Well done ! You chased all the other cars! Syb 2007/8/7, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/08/06/mount-robson/ After 12 hours of travel from Victoria, BC to Mount Robson Provincial Park on the BC/Alberta border, I was exhausted and slightly giddy. Managed

RE: OT: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: Daniel J. Matyola I have just returned from two weeks in Eastern Canada, and I observed a lot of flags in the various provinces up there. In Europe, some countries -- like Switzerland, Norway and Denmark -- seem to fly their national flags even more than we flag-waving Americans do.

Re: PESO: YACCP...

2007-08-07 Thread syb vis
Okay, so I understand the wonderful acronym YACC. But what's the history and meaning of PESO? Syb (NYSLOTDL -- not yet so long on this discussion list--) 2007/8/7, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The PUG should have a coffee cup theme... Mark Roberts wrote: David Savage wrote: ...Yet

Re: PESO -- Mt. Robson

2007-08-07 Thread syb vis
Well done! You chased all the cars! Syb 2007/8/7, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks to all who commented! Mike On 6-Aug-07, at 8:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that is a 'serious' mountain! -- Bruce Monday, August 6, 2007, 4:48:32 PM, you wrote: MH

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Cassino William Robb wrote: You'all just don't seem to be getting it. OK - so when a superior technology comes along, the old technology dies off and is gone completely. Like horse drawn buggies (replaced by automobiles): http://www.liveryone.net/ Bows and arrows (replaced

Re: K10D SR and action photography

2007-08-07 Thread John Francis
Most of the serious panning was done hand-held. I did leave SR enabled while using the 250-600 on a monopod, and it certainly didn't make things any worse. On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 11:50:05PM -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: Hello John, Were you panning fully handheld or were you using a monopod?

POG - Minority review

2007-08-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto All of this will radically change WHICH images are selected. I can't see how it is supposed to be a good and purposeful sifting, but maybe I'm overly skeptic. Anyone care to speak up for the other side? Moot point as far as I'm concerned. I have Pentax cameras, but my 3 most

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Partly it because as a society we are rich enough to keep things going for more than purely utilitarian purposes. Since most of photography was always a luxury I don't think it will change. John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark Cassino William Robb wrote: You'all just don't seem to be

OT - Lens choice help required

2007-08-07 Thread Cotty
Guys, it's Nikon related, so don't waste your time here ;-) The knowledge of The List i far and away a better repository than asking on DPR, so here goes: A friend has a Nikon D80 - what options are there for a nice wide angle lens on this camera? It can be old, manual focus, or new, Nikon or

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread John Francis
There's no such thing as a cheap FA 77 On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:38:24AM +0100, Peter Fairweather wrote: Should be some cheap FA 77's for sale soon!! Peter On 07/08/07, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be excellent performer, in picture center almost as good as

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling Cotty thought enough of the A*85 to cruelly disfigure one to mate it with his Canon... I've always wanted the 135mm f1.8, it would make a wonderful ~200mm, (as preforming the roll of), on an APS digital camera. However at those prices I guess I just have to settle for

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/8/07, Kamiel Wanrooij, discombobulated, unleashed: The 85/1.4 goes for around $1000, the 135/1.8 for $2000. Apart from their specs, rarity, and the fact that they are somewhat a collector's item, are they worth anywhere near these prices? And is their 'status' overrated? Well, as far as the

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread frank theriault
On 8/7/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the next time the Frogs get uppity, we'll kick their sorry asses out of the country and give Quebec to the more deserving Acadians. Think what you want about Quebec - I don't intend debating your views here. However, I think that if

Re: Peso My coffee cup tribute

2007-08-07 Thread frank theriault
On 8/6/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes! My thoughts exactly! cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Not cheap, inexpensive... John Francis wrote: There's no such thing as a cheap FA 77 On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:38:24AM +0100, Peter Fairweather wrote: Should be some cheap FA 77's for sale soon!! Peter On 07/08/07, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/8/07, syb vis, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought I read somewhere that the 85/1.8 was a better I just choked on my tea. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: DA* 50-135 compared to 77 Ltd and FA 24-90

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Speaking of which, Henry's has one as a buy it now in Silver, (someone in Canada was looking for one of these in Silver IIRC, a while back). I don't think I'm ruining this for anyone since it's a BIN. John Francis wrote: There's no such thing as a cheap FA 77 On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread Adam Maas
John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Cotty thought enough of the A*85 to cruelly disfigure one to mate it with his Canon... I've always wanted the 135mm f1.8, it would make a wonderful ~200mm, (as preforming the roll of), on an APS digital camera. However at those prices I guess I

RE: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Malcolm Smith
John Sessoms wrote: I use both digital and film. I do so because -BOTH- fill some desire, some need I have for capturing an image. And I'm not alone. You're not, but at times you'd think you were. I know that when I use a film camera where other people are using cameras, I'm usually (read

Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8

2007-08-07 Thread pnstenquist
The K 85/1.8 isn't better, but it's darn good, and I doubt that the difference would be apparent at normal viewing distances. Someone here posted a comparison at one time, but I can't recall specific results. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cotty [EMAIL

Re: OT - Lens choice help required

2007-08-07 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: Guys, it's Nikon related, so don't waste your time here ;-) The knowledge of The List i far and away a better repository than asking on DPR, so here goes: A friend has a Nikon D80 - what options are there for a nice wide angle lens on this camera? It can be old, manual focus,

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: A flag question for Canadians Such epithets have no place on this list (or anywhere else), IMHO. Epithets do have their place, depending on the situation... However.. Pardon me, allow me to rephrase. The next time our fine

Re: OT - Lens choice help required

2007-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: OT - Lens choice help required Guys, it's Nikon related, so don't waste your time here ;-) The knowledge of The List i far and away a better repository than asking on DPR, so here goes: A friend has a Nikon D80 - what options are there

OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha line was:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
What John said about Sony Alpha Lenses peaked my curiosity, so I took a little side trip to view the Sony Alpha page. Sony shows now shows three DSLR offerings, but get this, if you look at the details the only things that seem to be different between the three is the Name and Price... Ah,

Re: OT - Lens choice help required

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
Cotty, i have two lenses i like. I have the Sigma 10-20 and recently picked up the 18-70 Both do a very good job. Dave On 8/7/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, it's Nikon related, so don't waste your time here ;-) The knowledge of The List i far and away a better repository than

Re: OT - Lens choice help required

2007-08-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:24:51 +0100, Cotty wrote Guys, it's Nikon related, so don't waste your time here ;-) The knowledge of The List i far and away a better repository than asking on DPR, so here goes: A friend has a Nikon D80 - what options are there for a nice wide angle lens on this

Re: PESO -- Mt. Robson

2007-08-07 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot Mike. I spent 6 months surveying on the Yellowhead Hwy in 1975, and i only managed 1-2 clear photos of the mountain. Is this near Tete Jaune Cache, i think thats the spelling. Dave On 8/6/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: A flag question for Canadians (frank theriault)

2007-08-07 Thread Larry Levy
Frank calmly stated: Think what you want about Quebec - I don't intend debating your views here. However, I think that if you referred to African Americans as 'coons (or worse), Chinese as Chinks, Jews as Yids or Kikes, you might ruffle a few feathers. Calling a person who speaks French

Re: OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha line was:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

2007-08-07 Thread Adam Maas
If you're talking about the A100K and A100H, those are just different Lens/Body kits. Sony has been showing off models of two new higher-end bodies though. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: What John said about Sony Alpha Lenses peaked my curiosity, so I took a little side trip to view the Sony

Re: It's Live!: Pentax Photo Gallery

2007-08-07 Thread Igor Roshchin
I saw some people were looking for it recently, so, here it is. Pentaximaging.com (USA Pentax website) has announcement about pentax photo gallery: http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=10017565 Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Sony quietly has added two new cameras to the Alpha line was:[Re: A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8]

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
That's exactly what I'm talking about. If you look at Sony Alpha site that is in no way made clear. Adam Maas wrote: If you're talking about the A100K and A100H, those are just different Lens/Body kits. Sony has been showing off models of two new higher-end bodies though. -Adam P. J.

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread Bob Blakely
My Mom is Canadian from what was once the mostly english southeastern townships of Quebec above Vermont. (She'll be 92 this November.) We both agree that Canada would probably be better off without it's obnoxious, expensive french whore. As to how you would jack it up, I have no idea, but I

SD card repair.

2007-08-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, I've been bitten by what I consider one of the cheapest and stupidest designs in all computing. The write protect tab fell off one of my SD cards. I don't know where and I don't know when, (which also implies I don't know where the damned tab is either).. Does anyone have a suggestion

Re: A flag question for Canadians

2007-08-07 Thread frank theriault
On 8/7/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Epithets do have their place, depending on the situation... I'm not saying that epithets (in the sense of abusive or contemptive language) are never to be used. That being said, language of bigotry (and I'm not accusing you of being a bigot,

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-07 Thread Steve Sharpe
I'm not the least bit nostalgic for the good ol' days. Cheers, Dave I'm the exact opposite. I've owned 4 DSLR's and a pair of compact PS's. But I just keep shooting film more and more. I just enjoy working with it more than digital. I bought my first DSLR last December. I still use

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