Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Yosemite? Sheesh, doesn't anyone ever keep up to date with software updates > that I and my colleagues sweat our lives away trying to improve on things > with? Don't answer that, it was rhetorical ... ;-) I m with Rick,

Re: PESO - Beetleface

2016-08-17 Thread Jostein
Multicoating could indeed be an issue. Flares could be terrible if too much light was bouncing off the specimen mounting plate. One site I found describes the resolution of microscope optics as fairly uniform across brands and time, but dependent on glass technology. The three major classes of

Re: PESO - Beetleface

2016-08-17 Thread mike wilson
> On 17 August 2016 at 20:51 Jostein wrote: > > > Multicoating could indeed be an issue. Flares could be terrible if too > much light was bouncing off the specimen mounting plate. > One site I found describes the resolution of microscope optics as fairly > uniform across

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Godfrey -- Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408.431.4601 cell > On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> For versatility and strength with precision and light weight, the Acratech >> GP is just amazing .. And not hideously

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> It would be interesting to find out what someone with a collection of Leicas >> considers hideously expensive. > > That right there's a MARK! Actually, I'd rate it a LARRY. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Rain photography questions

2016-08-17 Thread Eric Featherstone
For Paul's URL, add the word photo after the word photo? i.e. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?_id=18061844 becomes http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18061844 Eric. On 17 August 2016 at 03:07, ann sanfedele wrote: > I get that error too.. can't see Paul's photo > > I

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
Probably involves less writing to the card, so the card will last longer. On August 17, 2016 8:00:50 AM PDT, ann sanfedele wrote: >I always format any card I have in the camera (K-5) when it gets full >after I've uploaded everything to my pc - somewhere I read, or someone >I

Re: KENTLI Li-ion "AA" batteries

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
Still don't think that I'd go with a charger which touts the "feature" of being a flashlight. If you need a flashlight you can buy a dedicated unit pretty cheaply. Supposedly the memory effect has been almost eliminated from the last few generations of NiMH batteries and a good conditioning

Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
My "Birds of North America" book doesn't list anything resembling the attached enough for me to consider it "identified." Ann,...or? Shot this past late spring, but don't believe it's been previously posted.(?) Comments? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1089 -- PDML

Pentax sighting

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
We watched a couple of episodes of "Stranger Things" on Netflix. In the second episode, one of the characters is taking lots of pics with an older Pentax. Looks like an ME or ME-super. I didn't pay close enough attention. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax sighting

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
I just saw a screen grab. It looks maybe like an MX. I love that Pentax body. I have a black one still in good condition. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Gonz wrote: > We watched a couple of episodes of "Stranger Things" on Netflix. In > the second episode, one of

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread ann sanfedele
I always format any card I have in the camera (K-5) when it gets full after I've uploaded everything to my pc - somewhere I read, or someone I respect told me it was better to format than tojust "delete all" - unless , of course, I decide I'd better keep the card asback-up. 90% of what I

Re: PESO - Black Cat Appreciation Day

2016-08-17 Thread John
Dan's currently down in the bottom of a coal mine. On 8/16/2016 7:05 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Hmmm Odd - the link works for me. Not sure where the problem is. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John
On 8/16/2016 9:58 PM, Bill wrote: On 8/16/2016 7:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote: No way. Had a series of PCs at work (Winblows 3.1 through XP Pro), and I have no intention of going back. Truthfully, I'm sometimes thinking my next computer might be a Mac, but then I try to make my iPad Pro do simple

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Rick Womer
Formatting in the camera is a quick and easy way to erase the card. That's all. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > Apologies for veering off here, but I'm curious... Is there a well funded > reason for formatting the

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > Pisses me off that Microsoft is trying to make the whole OS more Mac like, > in some ways, mostly that aren't helpful. Mickeysoft has been trying to make their OSes more Mac-like since Windows 1.0. And they miss

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread John
Might also be a hybrid with a domestic duck someone abandoned to the wild. I've seen that around here with Mallards. Someone gets their kids ducklings for Easter & by mid-summer they've released them on one of the local flood control lakes. By the next summer, the domestic ducks have taken up

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, John. Could be! Guess you missed my last post. Thanks! J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 10:46 AM, John wrote: > > Northern Pintail? > > >> On 8/17/2016 11:35 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> >> My "Birds of North America" book doesn't list anything

Re: Rain photography questions

2016-08-17 Thread John
On 8/16/2016 9:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote: It's been a damp couple of weeks here in New Hampshire, and I've been trying (and failing) to take some good rain pix. This afternoon it was pouring outside, so I put on my weather-resistant jacket and hat, and took my weather-resistant K-5 (with my

Re: PESO - The Wall #23

2016-08-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you very much, Larry. Special bonus: I put a selection of 16 shots from this set up on my portfolio, here: http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRwu5hWh95n4 On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> A shoot that I did

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread John
Northern Pintail? On 8/17/2016 11:35 AM, Jack Davis wrote: My "Birds of North America" book doesn't list anything resembling the attached enough for me to consider it "identified." Ann,...or? Shot this past late spring, but don't believe it's been previously posted.(?) Comments? J

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread John
Yeah, I don't always read the whole thread before replying. On 8/17/2016 1:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, John. Could be! Guess you missed my last post. Thanks! J Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2016, at 10:46 AM, John wrote: Northern Pintail? On 8/17/2016 11:35

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Gonz! Scalp, hummm(?) J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Gonz wrote: > > Very nice and sharp capture. > > It looks like some type of Scaup to me, but it differs enough from the > normal ones to remain more of a mystery. > > > On Wed, Aug 17,

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
Northern Pintail is the other species it resembles a lot. In fact, maybe more so. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > Thanks, Gonz! > Scalp, hummm(?) > J > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Gonz wrote: >> >>

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
D'know., possible from the same source as the blue streak on back of it's head? Thanks, Dan. J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:02 PM, P.J. Alling > wrote: > >> Well,

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
If you can find someone who will fund me every time I format a card, let me know. I could use the income. On 8/17/2016 1:14 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: Apologies for veering off here, but I'm curious... Is there a well funded reason for formatting the memory card every so often? I know Macs

Re: GESOs, perseids at Thunderhill

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
Modern science has a solution for that it's called DEET. On 8/16/2016 8:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Marco Alpert wrote: That’s really nice. Thanks It was a fun night. The next day when the mosquito bites started itching was a lot less fun. m On Aug 16, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Larry

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
Very nice and sharp capture. It looks like some type of Scaup to me, but it differs enough from the normal ones to remain more of a mystery. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:02 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > Well, my first guess is if it's not in Birds of North America, it

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
Well, my first guess is if it's not in Birds of North America, it might be from somewhere else, Europe or Asia most likely. However I did try a couple of online interactive bird searches, and it doesn't seem to exist. Maybe you've discovered a new species, or it's an artificial organism sent

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
At least you can tell a PC what application to launch, or none at all, for a particular file type, without disabling a whole subsystem. Pisses me off that Microsoft is trying to make the whole OS more Mac like, in some ways, mostly that aren't helpful. On 8/16/2016 9:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
I'm not sure that's a good idea. Memory cards have finite read write cycles. Reformatting rewrites the entire data structure of the card, it doesn't erase the data areas to prolong the life of the card, one would have to use a special utility accomplish that. Erase all, should, and I say

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
Well, there was this electric sounding "ping" being emitted along with the whir of finely meshed gears.(??) :-)!! J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:02 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > Well, my first guess is if it's not in Birds of North America, it might be

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Gonz wrote: > > Northern Pintail is the other species it resembles a lot. In fact, > maybe more so. I agree, Gonz. I can find my way to the Northern Pintail with a generous amount of allowance for color differences. J

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > Well, my first guess is if it's not in Birds of North America, it might be > from somewhere else, Europe or Asia most likely. However I did try a > couple of online interactive bird searches, and it doesn't seem

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks for this info, Jostein. I was hoping someone would mention Induro as that one and Benro are available here retail. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Jostein wrote: > I believe Feisol, Benro, Sirui and Induro all come out about the same. I'm > not positively certain that

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
It's funny, a word description in the search give Northern Pintail as a top result, but it doesn't look like the sample photos, (or drawings), at all. On 8/17/2016 1:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, John. Could be! Guess you missed my last post. Thanks! J Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2016,

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
John wrote: On 8/17/2016 1:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Pisses me off that Microsoft is trying to make the whole OS more Mac like, in some ways, mostly that aren't helpful. Mickeysoft has been trying to make

Re: September PUG Countdown - 2 Days to World Photo Day

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
Its going to be a wet picture for me. Been raining non-stop! On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > As promised - another nag... > > For the September PUG, you need to take a photo next Friday, August 19 - > World Photo Day. > > > Cheers > > Brian > >

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
John wrote: On 8/16/2016 9:58 PM, Bill wrote: On 8/16/2016 7:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote: No way. Had a series of PCs at work (Winblows 3.1 through XP Pro), and I have no intention of going back. Truthfully, I'm sometimes thinking my next computer might be a Mac, but then I try to make my

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
mike wilson wrote: On 17 August 2016 at 02:58 Bill wrote: On 8/16/2016 7:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote: No way. Had a series of PCs at work (Winblows 3.1 through XP Pro), and I have no intention of going back. Truthfully, I'm sometimes thinking my next computer

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As far as I'm aware, Induro and Benro are the same product branded for different markets. They are mostly based on the Gitzo designs. Good legs at reasonable prices. G > On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Bruce Walker wrote: >> Thanks for this info,

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: For versatility and strength with precision and light weight, the Acratech GP is just amazing .. And not hideously expensive. It would be interesting to find out what someone with a collection of Leicas considers hideously expensive.

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you everyone for your info and opinions. I'm quickly narrowing down the possible choices, somewhat limited by what's actually carried locally here. My plan so far is to get a head -- likely the Acratech -- first, and use it with my existing legs which are supposed to support 15 pounds.

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John
On 8/17/2016 3:16 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 17 August 2016 at 02:58 Bill wrote: On 8/16/2016 7:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote: No way. Had a series of PCs at work (Winblows 3.1 through XP Pro), and I have no intention of going back. Truthfully, I'm sometimes thinking

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Jostein
Both Apple and Microsoft built on ideas they brought with them from Xerox at Menlo Park. I'd root for Microsoft over Apple at every turn, but in the end, both OSes enables participation in PDML, so what's the deal. :-) Jostein Den 17.08.2016 19.34, skrev Bruce Walker: On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 17 Aug 2016, at 19:13, John wrote: > >> On 8/17/2016 1:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, P.J. Alling >> wrote: >>> >>> Pisses me off that Microsoft is trying to make the whole OS more Mac like, >>> in some

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John
On 8/17/2016 1:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Pisses me off that Microsoft is trying to make the whole OS more Mac like, in some ways, mostly that aren't helpful. Mickeysoft has been trying to make their OSes more

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks for this info, Jostein. I was hoping someone would mention Induro as that one and Benro are available here retail. I also recommended Induro/Benro. They are a very good deal for the money. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Jostein wrote: I

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
For versatility and strength with precision and light weight, the Acratech GP is just amazing .. And not hideously expensive. https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/7Gw5Vu G > On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > My plan so far is to get a head -- likely

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
I ordered this not too long ago: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/864571-REG/oben_ct_3581_be_126t_5_section_foldable_carbon.html And I love it. Nice and lightweight, strong and sturdy. Plus it lets me get down low for macro work, etc. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Larry Colen

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > A few years back I decided that I needed an ultra sturdy tripod, and decided > that I could make one for far less than the cost of buying one. > Mind you, this barely qualifies as "luggable", and what little adjustability

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
A few years back I decided that I needed an ultra sturdy tripod, and decided that I could make one for far less than the cost of buying one. Mind you, this barely qualifies as "luggable", and what little adjustability it has is from swapping out the "legs". However, it cost me under $100

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
Geez Larry where did you find that three to one fitting? On 8/17/2016 4:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A few years back I decided that I needed an ultra sturdy tripod, and decided that I could make one for far less than the cost of buying one. Mind you, this barely qualifies as "luggable", and what

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
I was wondering the same thing. Tried to zoom in to see how that was done. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 4:04 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > Geez Larry where did you find that three to one fitting? > > On 8/17/2016 4:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> A few years back I decided

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
P.J. Alling wrote: Geez Larry where did you find that three to one fitting? OSH (Orchard Supply Hardware), it's a 3 to 1 manifold for air tools. I have one on my compressor. Here's one online:

Re: Rain photography questions

2016-08-17 Thread David J Brooks
what was the guy at GFM 10 years ago, Tom Braswell??? he did nothing but rain photos. Tripod and towels. Dave On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > It's been a damp couple of weeks here in New Hampshire, and I've been > trying (and failing) to take some good

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No idea … I never worked with Apple II systems. They were already phased out in Developer Technical Support by the time I was inside the walls. G > On Aug 17, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Where does Quark fit into the picture? They sold a Mac-like shell

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Different situation entirely. PCDOS was a very simple thing by comparison to the graphical UI Macintosh OS and didn't require hardly anything at all to write code for, other than a language and a code generator. It was an out of date computer practically before it

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread David Mann
On Aug 18, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I thought I might inject some information into this rapidly-becoming-insipid > thread of BS. From the mouths of the players involved: (snip) Thanks for posting that, it was very interesting. I should get around

PESO: Lost: Bright Pink Cat

2016-08-17 Thread David Mann
Spotted this while out walking. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1022/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > On 17 Aug 2016, at 19:13, John wrote: >> >>> On 8/17/2016 1:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, P.J. Alling >>> wrote:

Re: Need recommendation for solid, luggable tripod

2016-08-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > It would be interesting to find out what someone with a collection of Leicas > considers hideously expensive. That right there's a MARK! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: GESOs, perseids at Thunderhill

2016-08-17 Thread Ken Waller
I have several shirts that are chemically treated to help repel insects - they've worked for me. I believe they are Ex-Officio brand, supposedly said to retain their repelling ability for many washings. You really don't want Deet anywhere near your camera/lens - it will really mess up the

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very enjoyable. Every now and then you amaze and inspire me. Thanks for sharing. Paul via phone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > >> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> On 17 Aug 2016, at 19:13, John

Re: PESO: Lost: Bright Pink Cat

2016-08-17 Thread Bob W-PDML
Perhaps that explains the lost pigeon. http://dailyserving.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/5.-Lost.jpg B > On 17 Aug 2016, at 23:17, David Mann wrote: > > Spotted this while out walking. > > http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1022/#peso > > Cheers, > Dave > > -- PDML

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Gonz
Cool story, interesting players. Could be made into a movie! The only things I find that don't fit my understanding are that Xerox didn't own any Apple stock but instead was given options to buy Apple stock in return for a peek at their PARC facilities. Plus Apple didn't give out dividends

Re: PESO: Lost: Bright Pink Cat

2016-08-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Priceless. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 6:16 PM, David Mann wrote: > Spotted this while out walking. > > http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1022/#peso > > Cheers, > Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Gonz wrote: > > Cool story, interesting players. Could be made into a movie! Sadly, all the movies made about SJ tend to focus on his personality defects and overdramatize his capriciousness and emotionality … because that's what sells,

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread mike wilson
> On 17 August 2016 at 02:58 Bill wrote: > > > On 8/16/2016 7:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > No way. Had a series of PCs at work (Winblows 3.1 through XP Pro), and > > I have no intention of going back. > > > > Truthfully, I'm sometimes thinking my next computer

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 16/8/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >Yosemite? Sheesh, doesn't anyone ever keep up to date with software >updates that I and my colleagues sweat our lives away trying to improve >on things with? Don't answer that, it was rhetorical ... ;-) Still on 10.8.5 and using my 2012

Re: Rain photography questions

2016-08-17 Thread mike wilson
> On 17 August 2016 at 02:09 Rick Womer wrote: > So, how does one get those streaking raindrops, and have the splashes > when they land look like something? Ideally, you need backlit rain against a dark background. Either of those parameters will work alone if other

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I format only infrequently. I guess that's why I've been able to keep the Photo app shutdown. Paul via phone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 1:14 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > > Apologies for veering off here, but I'm curious... Is there a well funded > reason for formatting the memory

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
The thing about the IBM PC was that it was open architecture, you could build any, and I do mean any, device for the BUS, and in the early days Microsoft pretty much gave the OS away. I actually had a copy of QDos, which was pretty good, if you didn't expect to much. I worked on a couple of

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Quark Word Juggler was very popular among NY journalists when I arrived at Hearst in 1980. It came with a card you installed in a //+ or //e that expanded the character set. It was a far better solution than a C/PM box but more expensive as well. I used Word Juggler on a variety of Apple //s

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John
On 8/17/2016 2:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: On 8/17/2016 1:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Pisses me off that Microsoft is trying to make the whole OS more Mac like, in some ways, mostly that aren't

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John
http://toastytech.com/guis/qcat.html On 8/17/2016 8:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: No idea … I never worked with Apple II systems. They were already phased out in Developer Technical Support by the time I was inside the walls. G On Aug 17, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Paul Stenquist

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > ...No matter what operating system you use, it is going to suck. ... I guess it's no wonder that you're not an operating system designer or implementor, eh? I don't find that operating systems universally suck at all.

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > (Of course, Balmer and Gates had ripped off someone else's OS source > code in the first place (can't remember who's specifically at the moment) Seattle Computer Products. Not actually ripped-off, but licensed

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > The thing about the IBM PC was that it was open architecture, you could build > any, and I do mean any, device for the BUS, and in the early days Microsoft > pretty much gave the OS away. I actually had a copy

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John
The way I got the story when I worked at IBM in the 90s was that the IBM PC was a project secret even from IBM's management who thought it was going to be just a new terminal product to work with IBM's System/32 mini computers. The team from IBM who were developing the PC was interested in

Re: September PUG Countdown - 2 Days to World Photo Day

2016-08-17 Thread David J Brooks
will be heading up north this weekend i think i can do something with this Dave On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > As promised - another nag... > > For the September PUG, you need to take a photo next Friday, August 19 - > World Photo Day. > > >

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Where does Quark fit into the picture? They sold a Mac-like shell program for Apple //e and //c called Catalyst at least two years before there was a Mac. I used it. Given the way it bogged down the //c I ran it on, it was more novelty than anything else. But it was an interesting glimpse of

RE: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John Coyle
IIRC, Gates and Balmer bought a licence to CP/M, which had been the only really successful OS for microcomputers, apart from strictly proprietary ones such as that used by HP. Even so, it was all a bit mickey mouse until IBM steam-rollered into play with their IBM PC, which was basically

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread ann sanfedele
sure looks like that in my National Geo BIrds of North america ann On 8/17/2016 1:59 PM, John wrote: Yeah, I don't always read the whole thread before replying. On 8/17/2016 1:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, John. Could be! Guess you missed my last post. Thanks! J Sent from my iPhone On

Re: PESO: Lost: Bright Pink Cat

2016-08-17 Thread ann sanfedele
If they knew how to read , maybe they wouldnt' get lost someone needs to give them directions ann On 8/17/2016 6:37 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Perhaps that explains the lost pigeon. http://dailyserving.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/5.-Lost.jpg B On 17 Aug 2016, at 23:17, David Mann

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Larry Colen
Larry Colen wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Different situation entirely. PCDOS was a very simple thing by comparison to the graphical UI Macintosh OS and didn't require hardly anything at all to write code for, other than a language and a code generator. It was an out of date computer

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
What background are you referring to? I worked for Apple for a long time, off and on; I worked for a dozen other companies as well as for myself, independently, in a wide variety of positions. I'm not in any particular "camp." I just do my best to observe what's going on. G > On Aug 17,

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Didn't realize Cstalyst was as late as '85, so it didn't precede Mac. Should have kept my copy and my hot rod //GS. Paul via phone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:11 PM, John wrote: > > http://toastytech.com/guis/qcat.html > >> On 8/17/2016 8:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>

Re: PESO: Lost: Bright Pink Cat

2016-08-17 Thread P.J. Alling
A little lest pathos than the PESO I posted a few years ago... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html On 8/17/2016 6:16 PM, David Mann wrote: Spotted this while out walking. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1022/#peso Cheers, Dave -- I don't

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread John
On 8/17/2016 2:46 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: On 8/16/2016 9:58 PM, Bill wrote: On 8/16/2016 7:49 PM, Rick Womer wrote: No way. Had a series of PCs at work (Winblows 3.1 through XP Pro), and I have no intention of going back. Truthfully, I'm sometimes thinking my next computer

Re: GESOs, perseids at Thunderhill

2016-08-17 Thread John
Before they sent us to Iraq, we had to treat all of our uniforms with a Permethrin solution. About half-way through our deployment they issued additional Permethrin solution kits & had us treat our uniforms again. REI has a good, STRONG insect repellent made from Lemon Eucalyptus that works

Re: Peso-Mystery Duck

2016-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Ann! J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 4:27 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > sure looks like that in my National Geo BIrds of North america > > ann > > >> On 8/17/2016 1:59 PM, John wrote: >> Yeah, I don't always read the whole thread before replying. >>

Re: OT:Another fine adventure in my Wonderful Life

2016-08-17 Thread John
Worked out Ok. Turned out the regional transit center at RTP was right across the street from where my class was, so that was easy. I left a little bit early in the afternoon, but by then it was during the Q, and they were beginning to repeat questions the instructor had already answered. I

stupid r2400 OT printer stuff update

2016-08-17 Thread ann sanfedele
Wellknocking wood here, but it seems to be working now but an pdd procedure needs to be followed most of the time... Put paper feeder (top feeder, not the one wehre you feed stuff manually) - tell it to print (after fiddlign in Elements for size and stuff) .. printer ejects paper red

Re: Mac Yosemite--"This is a bug, not a feature"

2016-08-17 Thread Jostein Øksne
Thanks for giving us the insider's view from the Apple camp. Now if we only had someone to relay from the opposite camp, we may be enabled to judge credibility for ourselves. No offence intended to you, Godfrey, but given your background it's likely you're not completely objective in this case.