Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 5, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Tom C wrote:


Taken this summer in Denali NP, Alaska.
*ist D and Zenitar 16 f/2.8, RAW
Not exactly sure why I like it, maybe perspective or muted tones...  
but putting it up for...

   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626


It's nice ... lots of nice shapes and textures in it. This web-rez  
rendering is not great, however. The foreground seems oversharpened;  
something is just not quite right about it.


Godfrey




Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Tom C
Thanks. I agree about the rendering overall... I'm perplexed.  Curious why 
you think it might be oversharpened.  I did USM it, but I figured the broken 
rock in the foreground, would/should, being closer to the lens display a 
little more detail.


This is one I wish I had on film.

Tom C.





From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:11:41 -0700


On Oct 5, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Tom C wrote:


Taken this summer in Denali NP, Alaska.
*ist D and Zenitar 16 f/2.8, RAW
Not exactly sure why I like it, maybe perspective or muted tones...  but 
putting it up for...

   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626


It's nice ... lots of nice shapes and textures in it. This web-rez  
rendering is not great, however. The foreground seems oversharpened;  
something is just not quite right about it.


Godfrey







Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Jostein
Don't, Shel.

Like Kevin says, the harvesters will pick it up.  The suggested method with a
contact web-form is much more spam-proof. 

Another way of doing it is what the mail-archive.com has done. I don't know
exactly how it is implemented, but it must work. I've had a total of only 3
spam emails on my PDML mail address in five years. :-) If the archive had been
leaky, I'm sure there must have been a lot more.

When shopping around for a webshop solution, make sure you ask what kind of
protection they offer. As I said in the first mail, it may be filtering on the
mail server, but it's not unreasonable to request that the webshop itself
should be programmed in such a way that it protects email contact points.

Jostein


Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ahh ... good idea.  I've used something like that before, where a GIF of a
 mailbox linked to the email address.
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Cotty 
 
  or put a jpeg with the email address on, or a clickable link that opens
  an email app? That's what I do. Works well.
 
 
 





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Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
USM has to be done very carefully on a high-frequency image like  
this. It can cause a harsh and jangly look in fine details at low rez  
for the web.


I'd try again, sharpening selectively only on areas that need it.

Godfrey

On Oct 5, 2005, at 11:20 PM, Tom C wrote:

Thanks. I agree about the rendering overall... I'm perplexed.   
Curious why you think it might be oversharpened.  I did USM it, but  
I figured the broken rock in the foreground, would/should, being  
closer to the lens display a little more detail.


It's nice ... lots of nice shapes and textures in it. This web- 
rez  rendering is not great, however. The foreground seems  
oversharpened;  something is just not quite right about it.



   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626




Re: Lunch!

2005-10-06 Thread David Mann

On Oct 5, 2005, at 6:59 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Taken this Monday on one of my shoots for the Nature Guides:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/images/fall2_22.jpg
ist-D, F100/2.8 Macro, ISO 400


For some reason your website always times out for me...

- Dave



Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread David Mann

On Oct 6, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:


Regarding domain names, I'd go with your name. I sometimes regret not
having gotten juanbuhler.com--I still could, but I'm kind of used to
jbuhler.com now.


You could set up juanbuhler.com and make it automatically redirect to  
jbuhler.com.  The domain registrar I use offers domain redirection as  
a free service, so it's likely that you wouldn't have to set up a  
second web hosting account.


Cheers,

- Dave




Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Dario Bonazza
While organizing my PC, I came a cross this magazine. Maybe someone could be 
interested in subscribing

http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg

:-)

Dario 



Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks Tom ... the first instance is what I thought Jack meant ... I must
have missed the game he was playing later.  Thanks - and yes, I've been
very tired and stressed the past week or so.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Tom C 
 You must be burning too much midnite oil Shel... :)

 He suggested using the words city, street or people in a URL
because 
 those subjects make up the majority (at least what you've displayed to
the 
 PDML), of your shots.  They more often than not contain people, were
taken 
 on the street, and streets, pretty much by neccessity, happen to be in
the 
 city.

 So there could shelcity.com or seeshelscity.com, etc.  Not too hard, eh?

 Jack was just toying with you in his second post (right Jack?).  You 
 mentioned some of your photos are of cute or pretty subjects, so he 
 suggested using those words, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I would guess.  
 shelsprettypictures.com

 Personally, I like using you last name somehow.  You must be shelshocked.





Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Dario Bonazza

You can also get a purist version:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blurbw.jpg
:-)
Dario

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From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Starring Knarf


While organizing my PC, I came a cross this magazine. Maybe someone could 
be interested in subscribing

http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg

:-)

Dario 




Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I can't even read it once slow ... 

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Butch Black 

 See sea shells at the sea shore at seeshels

 Say that fast five times




Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Mark Roberts wrote on 06.10.05 3:12:

 Bah! What have the Romans ever done for us?
 Well, besides the roads...
Education? Aqueducts? ;-)))

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Tom C wrote on 06.10.05 4:37:

 P*ist?
Too ambiguous :-)))

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
P. J. Alling wrote on 06.10.05 4:41:

 It's like the * in *ist, it can mean anything you want it to, as long as
 it begins with P...
Just like T*ist - for instance Tennisist? :-P

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Gasha

Wow!

i would like to get there once in my life.

Gasha

Tom C wrote:

Taken this summer in Denali NP, Alaska.

*ist D and Zenitar 16 f/2.8, RAW

Not exactly sure why I like it, maybe perspective or muted tones... but 
putting it up for...


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626

Thanks for comments and critiques.

Tom C.






Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 06.10.05 9:29:

 While organizing my PC, I came a cross this magazine. Maybe someone could be
 interested in subscribing
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg
Beautiful! Can I pay for subscription using Masterblur card? ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Re: The slow and painful death of film.

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/05 Wed PM 05:00:56 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film.
 
 
 On Oct 5, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
 
  Quite honestly, I have more trouble with digital print quality  
  than with film print quality because of customer misintervention  
  of the process.
 
  Yet another reason not to be bothered with digital, while still  
  possible.
 
  Lets not blame the failings of the customer on the technology.
  Most of the problems I see could be solved if they would read  
  their owners manuals.
 
  No, I was replying as the customer. Did I need to know how the  
  cylinder turned into pictures? No. Do I want to know? No. Do I have  
  to know with digital? Yes. Do I cringe? Yes.
 
  I am not blaming digital. I am still not attracted by the workflow.  
  It's great for ebay!
 
 You have a fine attitude for a snapshot consumer. I understand Bill's  
 frustrations well ... I get the same attitude from the  
 'professionals' regards their (allegedly broken) computer system: I  
 don't care how it works, I just want it to do what I want without my  
 having to learn anything.
 
 I don't know that it's the right attitude for a photographer. Even  
 when I shoot film, I cannot obtain the results I want without  
 understanding the machinery and process thoroughly.

That's not necessarily true.  Whilst I agree with you in principle, it is 
entirely possible for someone to (either accidentally or by some other method) 
come across a system of work that produces the results they require.  Having 
doumented the process they can then repeat it to their heart's content.  Rather 
like learning to use software.  They have no need to know how the mechanicals 
work.  Although it would probably be much better for them, in a number of ways, 
if they did have a least a basic knowledge.

mike


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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/05 Wed PM 05:16:59 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Setting Up a Web Site
 
 Hi gang ...
 
 I know a few of you have web sites where you display your photos and offer
 them for sale.  I'd like to get some advice from y'all.
 
 First, about how much space are you using, or do you think you'd need, to
 continue posting pix and doing a little e-commerce?
 
 I can set something up through my ISP, but was wondering about other
 possibilities.  Are there any places that may specifically lend themselves
 to this process?  What sites/companies do you use, why did you choose them,
 and how are they working out for you?  Is a .COM suffix a clearly better
 choice than some other, like .NET or .ORG
 
 How do you avoid the spam that often follows when a site is on line and has
 a public presence?
 
 Choosing a name for the site is eluding me.  My name is long and
 cumbersome, and something shorter, easier to remember, and with a little
 more punch may be a better choice.  Any suggestions on naming conventions -
 not specifically a name - would be helpful.

Alliteration works for me.

Shelshot.

 
 Any other comments or suggestions are welcome.
 
 
 Shel 
 
 
 


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Pentax F 28 2.8

2005-10-06 Thread Charles Wilson

Dear All,

I have an opportunity to buy this lens at a good price.  Has anyone on the 
list had any experience with it.  Will be using it on ist D


Regards


Charles Wilson
Sydney Australia 





Re: Re: Trip to Prague, any suggestions?

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Mike is right, it has many tourists. It also has perhaps the most 
 beautiful old city I have seen. For photography it wonderful to get a 
 guide book and just wander the old city on the Danube's east side. On 
 the west side of the Danube, you can see the Mala Strana (Prague Castle 
 District) and the streets below. This area is also very crowded, yet you 
 must see it.

Somebody's probably already corrected you but it's not the Danube.  You are a 
bit far north...


 You can take a Danube boat ride and photograph many wonderful buildings 
 without so many tourists.

I recommend the Little Venice trip.  Some good, atmosheric areas, unlike the 
big boat cruises.  You get tickets from the people dressed in sailor suits on 
the east side of Karlov Most.

mike


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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Herb Chong wrote:


it's in another class well above the *istD.


Thanks Herb. But why Nikon? Does it have the same upgrade path as 
Canon?


Kostas



Re: Re: GESO: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/05 Wed PM 11:58:52 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO: Fall in the Adirondacks
 
 thanks, i didn't think of that until you reminded me. there is a certain 
 70's look to those.
 
 Herb...

The minimalist look in environmental pictures has been around for much longer 
than that and seems to be still popular in some circles.  I like it and wish I 
could do it. 8-)

 - Original Message - 
 From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:23 AM
 Subject: Re: GESO: Fall in the Adirondacks
 
 
  http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Seasonal/
 
  7, 9  13 are like something out of the Pentax Annual.
 
 
 


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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread David Mann

On Oct 6, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Jostein wrote:

Another way of doing it is what the mail-archive.com has done. I  
don't know

exactly how it is implemented, but it must work.


Their system removes all email addresses entirely and presents button  
to press if you want to email the author.  When pressed, it submits a  
hidden form that then causes a mail window to open.


I just had an idea of using a small piece of Javascript to  
dynamically create an email address from smaller sections that  
harvesters won't pick up.  It's a bit late to go fiddling now - I'll  
have a play around with it tomorrow.  I'm not sure how intelligent  
spam harvesters are these days... would they bother interpreting  
Javascript?


- Dave



Re: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/06 Thu AM 02:34:11 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
 
 Must be your batteries, I find that 2500mAh  AA NiMH cells equalize the 
 weight quite nicely.

Not mine, so I don't know.  Can't remember if it had the grip on - I think it 
did.  But my overwhelming impression was that I might drop it because it was so 
oddly weighted.  Very inhibiting.

 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/05 Wed AM 04:59:16 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
 
 On 5 Oct 2005 at 6:48, DagT wrote:
 
 
 
 I was referring to the fact that the 1Ds mkII is about the same size  
 and weight as the Pentax 67, not the use.
   
 
 What gets me is (if you've been watching the *ist D grip thread) that the 
 *ist 
 D sans grip is apparently too small for many people which is counter to the 
 general Pentax DSLRs are great because they're small discussions.
 
 
 
 I noticed that.  It's very interesting - I had hoped that the DSLR line 
 would be even smaller than the film SLRs, as there was no film/film 
 transport to accommodate.  No doubt the extra batteries and electronics 
 account for that.  Still a disappointment.
 
 I also find that the D (not handled any of the others) is very oddly 
 balanced.  Much heavier on the left than the right.  Which is not to inject 
 a dose of politics into this thread. 8-)
 
 mike
 
 
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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure how intelligent  
 spam harvesters are these days... would they bother interpreting  
 Javascript?

Yes. At the most basic level they use a regex (regular expression)
to match anything in the source code. Pattern matching would be something like
'/[EMAIL PROTECTED],}\.[\w]{2,6}$/iU'
to match anything within the code that looks like an email address.
If you use an image to try to fool it, they use Optical Character Recognition 
(OCR)
to 'view' the image and snarf an email address from it.

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: PESO: A BW conversion attempt

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes

It's always interesting when people tweak other people's photos.
In this case I prefer the original; Godfrey's version seems much too  
bright, and it emphasises the slightly washed out highlights.  Perhaps I  
need to look at the calibration of my monitor.


JOhn

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:54:28 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:




On Oct 5, 2005, at 9:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/? 
action=viewcurrent=Hailey_BW.jpg



I know nothing about these things, but the conversion looks okay to
me.  Maybe it could use a bit more punch...


I think i submitted the colour version last week.

Ya i was thinking it lacked somewere.Could use some punch i suppose.
Now were did i put Godfreys email.:-)


Nice photo!

You have the BW conversion basically there but it needs some 'dodging  
and burning' to make it crisp. On my screen, most highlights are right  
on, but shadow values are going murky and the overall feeling is that  
it's too dark matted against a white surround. Part of the reason for  
the murky display is that it lacks an ICC profile and doesn't display  
well as an sRGB image without some way for the system to make the  
display conversion.


I brought it into Photoshop and did a little opening up of shadow  
values (Curves adjustment layer with selective masking brushed in) and  
then put it on a white surround and adjusted the overall curve just a  
little to accommodate the light surround. I embedded the sRGB profile  
too.


http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Hailey_BW-g.jpg

Godfrey









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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Jostein
Quoting Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yes. At the most basic level they use a regex (regular expression)
 to match anything in the source code. Pattern matching would be something
 like
 '/[EMAIL PROTECTED],}\.[\w]{2,6}$/iU'
 to match anything within the code that looks like an email address.

Kevin, 
I'm a true novice to the secret powers of RegEx...
Would they also pick it up if you split up the mail address into parts contained
in variables, and then assemble the mail address by concatenating the
variables?

Something like:

script language=JavaScript type=text/JavaScript
emUser = 'someuser';
emDomain = 'somedomain.com';
emLink = 'ieMail me.../i';
em = eUser + String.fromCharCode(32*2) + emDomain;
document.write('A href=mailto:' + ep + '' + emLink + '/A');
/script


Jostein


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Re: Chilly PESO

2005-10-06 Thread David Savage
Thanks for that Herb.

I didn't know it's name (if there was a sign, it was well  truly
buried in snow :-). I also didn't realise that it was so far from from
the falls. We did a lot of driving that day, so my memory of distances
between different places is a bit muddled.

I didn't take any pictures at the falls, but my dad did (3 shots stitched):

http://tinyurl.com/79r4v


Dave


On 10/6/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 that's a picture of Tangle Falls and actually farther from Athabaska Falls
 than you might remember. they are about 65km apart.

 Herb



Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread John Forbes
They have an odd pricing structure, Juan.  $30 for the first year, then  
$84pa.  Not a way to encourage people to stay, but I suppose they are  
relying on inertia.


John

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 06:31:27 +0100, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Hi Shel,

Coincidentally, I spent some time today setting up a shopping cart and
payment method through Paypal for pictures in my photoblog:
http://photoblog.jbuhler.com (check the buy link below the
image--hopefully it is not too crass to have that there.)

My web host (webstrikesolutions.com) gives me 1GB of space and 20GB of
monthly transfer. I'm using I think 200MB or so of space.

For the shopping cart, I used a free one recommended by my provider:

http://www.mals-e.com/

It's easy to set up, if a little bit limited.

In any case, I think it is hard to sell photographs over the web. I've
had very few customers. What I did today is an experiment to see if
making it easy to select and pay has any effect on it at all.

Regarding domain names, I'd go with your name. I sometimes regret not
having gotten juanbuhler.com--I still could, but I'm kind of used to
jbuhler.com now.

Cheers,

j

On 10/5/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi gang ...

I know a few of you have web sites where you display your photos and  
offer

them for sale.  I'd like to get some advice from y'all.

First, about how much space are you using, or do you think you'd need,  
to

continue posting pix and doing a little e-commerce?

I can set something up through my ISP, but was wondering about other
possibilities.  Are there any places that may specifically lend  
themselves
to this process?  What sites/companies do you use, why did you choose  
them,

and how are they working out for you?  Is a .COM suffix a clearly better
choice than some other, like .NET or .ORG

How do you avoid the spam that often follows when a site is on line and  
has

a public presence?

Choosing a name for the site is eluding me.  My name is long and
cumbersome, and something shorter, easier to remember, and with a little
more punch may be a better choice.  Any suggestions on naming  
conventions -

not specifically a name - would be helpful.

Any other comments or suggestions are welcome.


Shel






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photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com









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Re: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/06 Thu AM 07:49:27 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
 
 Mark Roberts wrote on 06.10.05 3:12:
 
  Bah! What have the Romans ever done for us?
  Well, besides the roads...
 Education? Aqueducts? ;-)))

Spam?  Arguments?

Still want some Velvia100?


 
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 Balance is the ultimate good...
 
 Best Regards
 Sylwek
 
 
 


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Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id26.html

Christian
you asked for it...



LOL!

I forgot how good it was ;-)

( I mean, your pic, of course)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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_




Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:

 i wish i could mount the 
Limiteds on the body and use them. Nikon doesn't have anything equivalent to 
the 31 Limited.

Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.

Anything's doable. Send 'em along to me Herb :-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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_




Re: Lunch!

2005-10-06 Thread Charles Robinson

On Oct 5, 2005, at 20:59, Mark Roberts wrote:


Taken this Monday on one of my shoots for the Nature Guides:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/images/fall2_22.jpg
ist-D, F100/2.8 Macro, ISO 100



Nice one, Mark!

 -Charles

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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 script language=JavaScript type=text/JavaScript
 emUser = 'someuser';
 emDomain = 'somedomain.com';
 emLink = 'ieMail me.../i';
 em = eUser + String.fromCharCode(32*2) + emDomain;
 document.write('A href=mailto:' + ep + '' + emLink + '/A');
 /script

No, it will not pick it up till it is written to the source of the page. This
method does not show an email address on the page. However, they will snarf
anything with nospam in it, or user at domain dot com 

kind regards
Kevin


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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds

2005-10-06 Thread Herb Chong

Kirk made, but seems to have discontinued, the Ground Shot 2.

Herb
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds


Yep, and Greg Downing improved on it with one he has manufactured under 
his trade name Skimmer


http://www.naturescapes.net/store/product.php?productid=41cat=19page=1

I didn't have the $125 to buy it so I made my own.  Strangely enough the 
prototypy Downing used was pretty much the same frying pan I used.




Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Hello.

 USM has to be done very carefully on a high-frequency image like
 this. It can cause a harsh and jangly look in fine details at low rez
 for the web.

 I'd try again, sharpening selectively only on areas that need it.

I'd second that... It does look oversharpened some.

--
Boris



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Herb Chong

i've been willing to pay the price for more than a year.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks



At a price well above the *ist-D...




Re: Lunch!

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

For some reason your website always times out for me...

That's what the spider's victims always say ;-)




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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Herb Chong

let me think about it. manual focus and aperture

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks



Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.

Anything's doable. Send 'em along to me Herb :-)




Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
  script language=JavaScript type=text/JavaScript
  emUser = 'someuser';
  emDomain = 'somedomain.com';
  emLink = 'ieMail me.../i';
  em = eUser + String.fromCharCode(32*2) + emDomain;
  document.write('A href=mailto:' + ep + '' + emLink + '/A');
  /script
 
 No, it will not pick it up till it is written to the source of the page. 
This
 method does not show an email address on the page. However, they will 
snarf
 anything with nospam in it, or user at domain dot com 
 
 kind regards
 Kevin

It also helps to change bits around or at least use different variable 
names, like, you could substitute PDMLRocks for emUser or something. I 
wouldn't be surprised if they could find the commonest variable names for 
these things and just put it all together. I usually even break up emUser 
and emDomain links and put the pieces in the code in the reverse order 
(I've got a no-hassle script for that) so that even if they're smart, they 
still couldn't get the address without major reengineering.

Krisjanis



Re: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/06 Thu AM 10:21:54 GMT
 To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks
 
 On 5/10/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  i wish i could mount the 
 Limiteds on the body and use them. Nikon doesn't have anything equivalent to 
 the 31 Limited.
 
 Pentax register: 45.46mm
 Nikon register:  46.50mm
 
 1mm out!
 
 and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
 Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.

That will be the Gene Wilder pronunciation, I take it? 8-)

 
 Anything's doable. Send 'em along to me Herb :-)
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds

2005-10-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some excellent shots, Christian. You're really getting a handle on the  
bird biz. And thanks for the info on this ground pod.

Paul
On Oct 5, 2005, at 11:45 PM, Christian wrote:



- Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds


Art Morris is the first well known photographer i know of who did  
this. he may have started all of this. it's pretty necessary for  
shorebirds, when there is beach to crawl on.


Yep, and Greg Downing improved on it with one he has manufactured  
under his trade name Skimmer


http://www.naturescapes.net/store/product.php? 
productid=41cat=19page=1


I didn't have the $125 to buy it so I made my own.  Strangely enough  
the prototypy Downing used was pretty much the same frying pan I used.


Christian






*ist Ds Shutter actuations

2005-10-06 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day All.
Today I took possession of a Second hand *ist Ds.
It's 9 months old.
Got it from a bloke with money problems.
$750 AUD for the body as well as a 1gig SD card.
I've just now upgraded it to Firmware version 1.02.

My question to the list is this:

How does one find out the number of Shutter actuations?

I've seen it mentioned on the list for the *ist D.
Can it be done for the Ds?

I've also fitted the Pentax Grip Strap F to the Ds.
It feels very comfy and natural in the hand.

I can almost hear the PZ-1p crying it the Camera bag :-)

Thanks.
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton.
Australia

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands,hoist
the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - Henry Louis Mencken




Re: GESO: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
Not only that, but we went to different schools together!

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: GESO: Fall in the Adirondacks

separated at birth.

Herb.
- Original Message - 
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: GESO: Fall in the Adirondacks


 Heck I think I took 11 VBG




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Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
That's all wrong.
The copy knarF gave me is blurry.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Starring Knarf

You can also get a purist version:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blurbw.jpg
:-)
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Starring Knarf


 While organizing my PC, I came a cross this magazine. Maybe someone could 
 be interested in subscribing
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg

 :-)

 Dario 




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Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks, Christian,
as I said, just curious.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds


- Original Message - 
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds


 Some more really good shots Christian. Good subjects, light, exposures.

Thanks, Ken!

 Just wondering -
+was this your first workshop? If yes, why did you decide to attend 
 one?

Yes.  I really, really, really love birds and want to improve my skills in 
photographing them.  I thought it would be a good idea to try a workshop and 
meet some like-minded photogs to see how they work.

+why did you choose Downing?

I did a web search on photography workshops in Cape May, knowing it was a 
good birding spot.  Downings came up and it looked good with the right price 
and an opening.  Plus he's a local (lives North of Baltimore, Maryland) and 
he started a web forum at www.naturescapes.net.  Artie Morris and some other 
notable nature photographers work with him too.

+did you consider the fee worth what you got?

Worth every penny spent.

+would you do it again?

I'm looking at one of his workshops in Texas for the spring. :-)


 Just curious.
 I've attended many week long workshops and have always considered them 
 money well spent for the learning experience  shooting locations (I don't 
 have the time to scout out where to be  when).

And this is where Downing excelled.  He KNOWS the birds and can predict 
where they will be and what they will be doing with alarming accuracy becuse 
he's been shooting around Cape May for years.  6pm, time for the skimmers 
to start having dinner.  Get the flight lenses out...  and boom, the 
skimmers start taking off and skimming.

Christian





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Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
I see a slight touch of oversharpening in the mountain siloutte against the sky 
in the URH area.

BTW, 
Did the mountain appear during your visit  did you make it to the Eileson 
visitor center area? I was there last fall  they were preparing for a total 
rebuild as the structure had been damaged during a recent earthquake.
 
Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

Thanks. I agree about the rendering overall... I'm perplexed.  Curious why 
you think it might be oversharpened.  I did USM it, but I figured the broken 
rock in the foreground, would/should, being closer to the lens display a 
little more detail.

This is one I wish I had on film.

Tom C.




From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:11:41 -0700


On Oct 5, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Tom C wrote:

Taken this summer in Denali NP, Alaska.
*ist D and Zenitar 16 f/2.8, RAW
Not exactly sure why I like it, maybe perspective or muted tones...  but 
putting it up for...
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626

It's nice ... lots of nice shapes and textures in it. This web-rez  
rendering is not great, however. The foreground seems oversharpened;  
something is just not quite right about it.

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Re: *ist Ds Shutter actuations

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, Trevor Bailey, discombobulated, unleashed:

Today I took possession of a Second hand *ist Ds.
It's 9 months old.
Got it from a bloke with money problems.

I didn't sell you anything!




Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:

let me think about it. manual focus and aperture

I'd have to practice first :-)




Cheers,
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Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/05, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nikon was the camera of choice for pros in the USA for one reason, and 
one reason only, a man named Joe Ehrenreich.  Ehrenreich was the best 
marketer who has ever come along in the photo industry.  He was the 
first to think of giving camera outfits to well-known photographers so 
they would be seen using them and would talk about them.  At the time 
Canon cameras were just as good, perhaps even better, but they had 
ineffectual distribution and promotion.  By the time SLR cameras came 
along Nikon was firmly entrenched as the pro's camera, so pros using 
Nikon rangefinder cameras just naturally gravitated to the Nikon F.  
Ehrenreich founded Ehrenreich Photo Optical Industries, better known by 
the acronym EPOI.  EPOI went on to become the distributor for Rollei, 
Bronica, Mamiya, JOBO, Capro, and a wide range of other photo brands.  
It was a powerhouse that nothing came close to, other than perhaps 
Berkey.

I know a very nice man who says the same thing, and he used to be a Nikon
rep...




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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Krisjanis Linkevics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I find the best method is mailing from a form on your site. I do this at
 http://www.wildcherry.com.au/index.php?p=contact

This shows no email addresses to anybody as it is all kept hard coded
into the script and never displayed to the public.

Kind regards
Kevin

 It also helps to change bits around or at least use different variable 
 names, like, you could substitute PDMLRocks for emUser or something. I 
 wouldn't be surprised if they could find the commonest variable names for 
 these things and just put it all together. I usually even break up emUser 
 and emDomain links and put the pieces in the code in the reverse order 
 (I've got a no-hassle script for that) so that even if they're smart, they 
 still couldn't get the address without major reengineering.




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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Bah! What have the Romans ever done for us?
Well, besides the roads...

Open aperture metering?




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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/05, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty has always been very clever.

Not at all. Just satirical. I can't take anything seriously. Well, maybe
money. If I had to.

On second thoughts




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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
shesellsseashellsbytheseashore.com

:-)




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Re: *ist Ds Shutter actuations

2005-10-06 Thread David Savage
Well obviously you don't have money problems.

Dave (who has no problem at all with money. I quite like it in fact)

vbg

On 10/6/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/10/05, Trevor Bailey, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Today I took possession of a Second hand *ist Ds.
 It's 9 months old.
 Got it from a bloke with money problems.

 I didn't sell you anything!




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Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Bob Shell
Yep.  If someone wrote an accurate history of the photo industry in the 
USA it would be a lot more about the personalities than the products.  
Prominent names would be Joe Ehrenreich, Paul Klingenstein, Henry 
Froehlich, and a number of others.  Henry is still living and is 
President of The MAC Group (formerly Mamiya America, Inc.)  I've 
suggested to Henry many times that he should write his memoirs.  When 
Joe Ehrenreich was selling Nikon, Henry Froehlich was selling Konica, 
but Konica didn't make pro cameras in those days.


I never knew Joe Ehrenreich, but I've had the pleasure of knowing Paul 
Klingenstein, Henry Froehlich, and many other old-timers in this 
industry.


Bob

On Thursday, October 6, 2005, at 08:27  AM, Cotty wrote:


Nikon was the camera of choice for pros in the USA for one reason, and
one reason only, a man named Joe Ehrenreich.  Ehrenreich was the best
marketer who has ever come along in the photo industry.  He was the
first to think of giving camera outfits to well-known photographers so
they would be seen using them and would talk about them.  At the time
Canon cameras were just as good, perhaps even better, but they had
ineffectual distribution and promotion.  By the time SLR cameras came
along Nikon was firmly entrenched as the pro's camera, so pros using
Nikon rangefinder cameras just naturally gravitated to the Nikon F.
Ehrenreich founded Ehrenreich Photo Optical Industries, better known 
by

the acronym EPOI.  EPOI went on to become the distributor for Rollei,
Bronica, Mamiya, JOBO, Capro, and a wide range of other photo brands.
It was a powerhouse that nothing came close to, other than perhaps
Berkey.


I know a very nice man who says the same thing, and he used to be a 
Nikon

rep...




Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:


Personally, I like using you last name somehow.  You must be shelshocked.  
:)


Tom C.

Tom you hit the nail on the head:

www.shelshocked.com




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Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Bob Shell


On Thursday, October 6, 2005, at 08:32  AM, Cotty wrote:




Bah! What have the Romans ever done for us?
Well, besides the roads...


Open aperture metering?



The Romans gave us the numbering for the Zone System.

Bob



Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/05, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

Oh well I can't resist this game...

whattheshel.com

ann ducks

LOL




Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Rick Womer
...or maybe it's nice for the rich colors, the browns
and greens next to each other, or the way the sky
didn't just go white.

In any case, a very nice shot.

Rick

--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Taken this summer in Denali NP, Alaska.
 
 *ist D and Zenitar 16 f/2.8, RAW
 
 Not exactly sure why I like it, maybe perspective or
 muted tones... but 
 putting it up for...
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626
 
 Thanks for comments and critiques.
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 




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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling

He's at the top of the current Nikon upgrade path.

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Herb Chong wrote:


it's in another class well above the *istD.



Thanks Herb. But why Nikon? Does it have the same upgrade path as Canon?

Kostas





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Request

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
Once upon a time I had a link to a company in the USA that supplies
zillions of types of small screws of the kind that hold lenses together
(etc). They had a very comprehensive selection, with online ordering and
so on.

Can anyone recommend such a site?

TIA




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Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Albano Garcia
Mega-LOL!!
Cool

Albano

--- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While organizing my PC, I came a cross this
 magazine. Maybe someone could be 
 interested in subscribing
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg
 
 :-)
 
 Dario 
 
 


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Photography  Graphic Design
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Re: 50 years of photojournalism

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf
50 Years of war and misery, is what I would call it. Politics is more 
interesting and less annoying to me.


graywolf
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Mark Roberts wrote:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_50_years_of_photojournalism/html/1.stm


 





Re: Request

2005-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/10/06 Thu PM 12:58:19 GMT
 To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Request
 
 Once upon a time I had a link to a company in the USA that supplies
 zillions of types of small screws of the kind that hold lenses together
 (etc). They had a very comprehensive selection, with online ordering and
 so on.
 
 Can anyone recommend such a site?

http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N=999600059

Click on more diameters and you get metric choices from 1.6mm

Suprising that this stuff is more easily available from the US, even though you 
have to search quite hard to get away from American sizes.

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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling

Cotty wrote:


On 5/10/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:

 

i wish i could mount the 
Limiteds on the body and use them. Nikon doesn't have anything equivalent to 
the 31 Limited.
   



Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.
 


Don't you have something here backward?


Anything's doable. Send 'em along to me Herb :-)




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Re: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling

Still too sharp...

Dario Bonazza wrote:

While organizing my PC, I came a cross this magazine. Maybe someone 
could be interested in subscribing

http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blur.jpg

:-)

Dario




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Re: Juan in Action: Siena mini-PDML pictures

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf

The girls in the third photo clearly speak Italian*.

*Refers to an old joke about this Italian guy who lost his arms in an 
accident and could no longer talk.


graywolf
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Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:


Hi guys and gals,

I managed to build a gallery with some of the pictures taken
during our recent Siena mini-PDML:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=533571

Hope you'll enjoy them.
Feel free to comment and criticize at will...
:-)

Ciao,

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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, but my point is that you're comparing two different cameras in two 
different classifications and finding the lower level camera wanting.  
As if it were the camera's fault.  If I paid approximately $3000 for the 
*ist-D I'd expect considerably higher performance from it when capturing 
images as well.  I didn't and for the difference I can buy a second 
body, or more lenses.  People are happy with my photographs, they buy my 
prints.  I sold enough at my last show to pay for my consumables in 
mounting it.  Sounds to me that's what you're doing.  If you choice 
works for you I happy for you.



Herb Chong wrote:


i've been willing to pay the price for more than a year.

Herb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks



At a price well above the *ist-D...







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Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf

Hummm...?

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P. J. Alling wrote:

Actually the Honeywell deal, was the other way around.  Pentax wanted 
to get control of their own distribution in a major market.  Without 
Pentax Honeywell had nothing of any substance to sell...


graywolf wrote:

First Minolta bought Textronics which made them broke. Then Konica 
bought Minolta which probably made them broke. Wonder who will buy 
Konica now? GRIN


OTOH, probably the only reason that they are not available in Canada 
is that the independent distributor went belly up. As soon as they 
find a new one they will most likely be back. This kind of thing 
happens in markets too small for the company to set up their own 
distributorship. Even in the US, remember when Honeywell was the 
Pentax distributor? When they went out of the photography business 
Pentax had to take over themselves. The US was too big a market to 
ignor.


graywolf
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P. J. Alling wrote:

Apparently Konolta is in worse shape than we thought.  (Now here's 
something to start a stampede away from a brand name).


Christian wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease 
in Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian














Re: PESO - Rainy Day on Polychrome Pass

2005-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Tom,
It's inviting yet with a hint of foreboding that I find mysteriously
interesting.
Like the crescent horizon and the total volume of the scene.
If I were playing with it in PS, I might give it a click of contrast to
see if the separation of color plains added further interest.
Actually, it needs nothing more, but I can't seem to stop messing with
an image if I like it.

Jack

--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 *ist D and Zenitar 16 f/2.8, RAW
 
 Not exactly sure why I like it, maybe perspective or muted tones...
 but 
 putting it up for...
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3647626
 
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Re: OT: Lighting Advice Needed

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf
I used to use strobes for that kind of stuff. Safer, and does not help 
fade the artworks. One 45 degrees to either side of the camera. Slave or 
radio triggers help. Oh yes, and the Sunpacks I had a long time ago the 
slaved light would shut off every time it fired (why I have a couple of 
Norman 200B's instead) something to do with the auto-shutoff-circuit, so 
that is something to look out for.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---



David wrote:


Here's a little background

My Mother has been selling quilts in local craft and art shows for 
quite some time now but recently she's been submitting her quilts to 
higher end shows that require you to send in slides of your quilts to 
get in. She has used a local photographer who specializes in quilt 
photography for a while but she wants to take the slides herself to 
save money. She took a class on quilt photography so she knows most of 
the basics but she's having trouble figuring out her lighting.


Here's her questions:

Here is what I am trying to figure out:

1. I have a pair of Smith Victor A100's bought on Ebay. The listing 
said that they would take up to a 500W bulb but the lights themselves 
list only bulb types for 250W. I emailed Smith Victor and they 
responded that the 500W light extends past my 10 reflectors which is 
why they don't recommend using them. Other than the need to be very 
careful that nothing touches the bulb, is there any reason why I can't 
use the bigger light bulb?


2. I want to use a dimmer switch to conserve the color of my tungsten 
lights between shots. Smith Victor recommends a DC-1 control but 
doesn't say how much wattage I can run through it. Can I use a heavy 
weight multiple outlet extension cord and put all 1000 Watts (both 
lights) through the same dimmer?


3. I am shopping for a cheap solution to buying a soft box for each 
light. My objective is to photograph flat art up to four feet square 
on an occasional basis (when I can't count on Seattle sun) and I would 
like my equipment to be very storable. I found on-line patterns for 
non-collapsible soft boxes but they are cumbersome - also couldn't 
find a source for diffusion fabric in small quantities (except for 18 
X 24 sheets which I think would be too small). One source said to 
make frames out of lathe, attach the cloth, them clip them to posts 
anchored in cans full of plaster of paris. Cheap, could work, but need 
source of fabric and recommendation for size!


Thanks in advance for any advise,

David







Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty


Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.
  


On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Don't you have something here backward?

OOPS

Sorry, brain not engaged (when is it?).

Peter is right - the difference is 1mm but going the *right* way. That
means that instead of taking off 1mm from the back of a PK lens, we need
to add 1mm to it, so that it focusses at the Nikon register distance.

This is *much* easier to do.

The problem will be in the adapter - 1mm is awfully small for an adapter
thickness so that it maintains structural integrity (love those Star Trek
buzzwords).

What is remove the Pentax mount, fashion a Nikon mount with new mounting
holes, and add a 1mm spacer ring inbetween, using longer screws. That's
very doable.

Is there space for the aperture lever in a Nikon body? Probably not, so
that bugger will saw right off no problemo.

I'll look around and see if anyone's done it.

Thanks Pete.



Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

What is remove the Pentax mount, fashion a Nikon mount with new mounting
holes, and add a 1mm spacer ring inbetween, using longer screws. That's
very doable.

What i would do is

remove the Pentax mount, fashion a Nikon mount with new mounting
holes, and add a 1mm spacer ring inbetween, using longer screws. That's
very doable.



Cheers,
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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Well, Cotty, if I happen to have the same thought as you,  I'll assign
it to my good luck.

Jack

--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/10/05, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Cotty has always been very clever.
 
 Not at all. Just satirical. I can't take anything seriously. Well,
 maybe
 money. If I had to.
 
 On second thoughts
 
 
 
 
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Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf

OTOH, if you buy a new body, you just updated all your old lenses.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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---



William Robb wrote:



If you have an original EOS lens, and buy a new lens, you have just 
updated your AF technology.
If you are using a 20 year old camera with the drive motor in the 
camera, you are stuck with that technology until you ditch the camera.






Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This one time, at band camp, Krisjanis Linkevics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I find the best method is mailing from a form on your site. I do this at
 http://www.wildcherry.com.au/index.php?p=contact

This shows no email addresses to anybody as it is all kept hard coded
into the script and never displayed to the public.

Just be careful of security issues with PHP and other scripts. If
they're vulnerable they *will* be exploited by spammers who'll use your
mail script to send junk all over the planet. I believe it's more of an
issue with older Perl scripts
(http://www.securitytracker.com/alerts/2002/Jan/1003357.html) but you
can never be too careful these days.

Here's a starting point:
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/security/
 
 
-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Lucas Rijnders

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:47:48 +0200, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.



On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:



Don't you have something here backward?



OOPS

Sorry, brain not engaged (when is it?).

Peter is right - the difference is 1mm but going the *right* way. That
means that instead of taking off 1mm from the back of a PK lens, we need
to add 1mm to it, so that it focusses at the Nikon register distance.


EOS (you know ;-) register is 44mm. So either Nikon _is_ going the wrong  
way, or your EOS mod isn't working :o)


Or am I making an error?

--
Regards, Lucas
(you could also mill 1mm of the D2x flange evil grin)



Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

2005-10-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Oct 2005 at 9:55, graywolf wrote:

 OTOH, if you buy a new body, you just updated all your old lenses.

And if the lens was originally built using an optimised AF motor then it's 
ready to utilize whatever new AF technology is embedded in the new body.

:-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:

EOS (you know ;-) register is 44mm. So either Nikon _is_ going the wrong  
way, or your EOS mod isn't working :o)

This is nothing to do with EOS. We are talking about putting a Pentax
lens onto a Nikon camera.

Further: better than having a spacer ring made up of 1mm thickness, why
not have a set of 1mm washers sitting between lens flange (mount) and
lens body, at the point where the screws enter. Of course, longer screws
would be required for safety.



Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling

Actually I think there is room in the Nikon body for the aperture
lever.  The problem is that the throat on the Nikon  mount is smaller
than the K mount, I have an NF t-mount that fits into a K mount
opening, it doesn't turn to seat but it's very close.

Cotty wrote:

 


Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.


 



On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


Don't you have something here backward?
   



OOPS

Sorry, brain not engaged (when is it?).

Peter is right - the difference is 1mm but going the *right* way. That
means that instead of taking off 1mm from the back of a PK lens, we need
to add 1mm to it, so that it focusses at the Nikon register distance.

This is *much* easier to do.

The problem will be in the adapter - 1mm is awfully small for an adapter
thickness so that it maintains structural integrity (love those Star Trek
buzzwords).

What is remove the Pentax mount, fashion a Nikon mount with new mounting
holes, and add a 1mm spacer ring inbetween, using longer screws. That's
very doable.

Is there space for the aperture lever in a Nikon body? Probably not, so
that bugger will saw right off no problemo.

I'll look around and see if anyone's done it.

Thanks Pete.



Cheers,
 Cotty


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Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well, Cotty, if I happen to have the same thought as you,  I'll assign
it to my good luck.

Please do. I said satire, not sarcasm.




Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have an NF t-mount that fits into a K mount
opening, it doesn't turn to seat but it's very close.

Ye gods. Bestiality!




Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually that's not a problem if you're going to replace the mount. 
The Pentax will just focus just slightly beyond infinity...


P. J. Alling wrote:


Actually I think there is room in the Nikon body for the aperture
lever.  The problem is that the throat on the Nikon  mount is smaller
than the K mount, I have an NF t-mount that fits into a K mount
opening, it doesn't turn to seat but it's very close.

Cotty wrote:

 


Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back 
of a

Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.







On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


Don't you have something here backward?
  



OOPS

Sorry, brain not engaged (when is it?).

Peter is right - the difference is 1mm but going the *right* way. That
means that instead of taking off 1mm from the back of a PK lens, we need
to add 1mm to it, so that it focusses at the Nikon register distance.

This is *much* easier to do.

The problem will be in the adapter - 1mm is awfully small for an adapter
thickness so that it maintains structural integrity (love those Star 
Trek

buzzwords).

What is remove the Pentax mount, fashion a Nikon mount with new mounting
holes, and add a 1mm spacer ring inbetween, using longer screws. That's
very doable.

Is there space for the aperture lever in a Nikon body? Probably not, so
that bugger will saw right off no problemo.

I'll look around and see if anyone's done it.

Thanks Pete.



Cheers,
 Cotty


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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling

Necrophilia actually, I was testing on a dead camera.

Cotty wrote:


On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


I have an NF t-mount that fits into a K mount
opening, it doesn't turn to seat but it's very close.
   



Ye gods. Bestiality!




Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling 
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks



Yes, but my point is that you're comparing two different cameras in two 
different classifications and finding the lower level camera wanting.  
As if it were the camera's fault.  If I paid approximately $3000 for the 
*ist-D I'd expect considerably higher performance from it when capturing 
images as well.  I didn't and for the difference I can buy a second 
body, or more lenses.  People are happy with my photographs, they buy my 
prints.  I sold enough at my last show to pay for my consumables in 
mounting it.  Sounds to me that's what you're doing.  If you choice 
works for you I happy for you.


Three grand is about what I paid for my istD.
I got a battery pack and cheap lens with it, but it was still three grand.

William Robb



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling 
Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks




He's at the top of the current Nikon upgrade path.


At least Nikon provides an upgrade path.
We have to jump from rock to rock.

William Robb



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Necrophilia actually, I was testing on a dead camera.

LOL

You see, you quite like this tinkering lark. I'll bet you have a little
collection of bits and bobs on your desk, and a good set of jeweller's
drivers, all at hand ready for a good old fiddle there ;-)





Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Bob Blakely
I have personally held an SMCA* 85/1.4 Lens that was modified for use on a 
Nikon. The approximately 1 millimeter was added to the back of the lens via 
a modified or constructed Nikon mount that was affixed to the back of the 
lens in place of the Pentax mount. The mount stuck out a little from the 
back, I believe. I was told a little old German guy who used to have a 
little shop on Wilshire Blvd., California did the work. If it's the same guy 
I visited years ago, he was certainly qualified to do the work. He used to 
modify lens mounts for use on movie cameras too, I believe. He's passed on 
now...


Regards,
Bob...

By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll become happy;
if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
- Socrates


From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register:  46.50mm

1mm out!

and going the wrong way. Well if I couldn't mill 1 mm off the back of a
Limited, and stick a Nikon flange on, my name's not Dr Frankenstien.




On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


Don't you have something here backward?


OOPS

Sorry, brain not engaged (when is it?).

Peter is right - the difference is 1mm but going the *right* way. That
means that instead of taking off 1mm from the back of a PK lens, we need
to add 1mm to it, so that it focusses at the Nikon register distance.

This is *much* easier to do.

The problem will be in the adapter - 1mm is awfully small for an adapter
thickness so that it maintains structural integrity (love those Star Trek
buzzwords).

What is remove the Pentax mount, fashion a Nikon mount with new mounting
holes, and add a 1mm spacer ring inbetween, using longer screws. That's
very doable.

Is there space for the aperture lever in a Nikon body? Probably not, so
that bugger will saw right off no problemo.

I'll look around and see if anyone's done it.





Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Then you have a right to demand higher preformance.  But then you bought 
your's a few years ago.


William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Fall in 
the Adirondacks



Yes, but my point is that you're comparing two different cameras in 
two different classifications and finding the lower level camera 
wanting.  As if it were the camera's fault.  If I paid approximately 
$3000 for the *ist-D I'd expect considerably higher performance from 
it when capturing images as well.  I didn't and for the difference I 
can buy a second body, or more lenses.  People are happy with my 
photographs, they buy my prints.  I sold enough at my last show to 
pay for my consumables in mounting it.  Sounds to me that's what 
you're doing.  If you choice works for you I happy for you.



Three grand is about what I paid for my istD.
I got a battery pack and cheap lens with it, but it was still three 
grand.


William Robb





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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Christian


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks



Yes, but my point is that you're comparing two different cameras in two 
different classifications and finding the lower level camera wanting.  As 
if it were the camera's fault.


The point is that Pentax doesn't offer anything but the lower level 
camera. (your description, not mine).  It isn't the camera's fault.  It's 
the manufacturers fault.


Christian 



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Lucas Rijnders

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:18:26 +0200, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 6/10/05, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:


EOS (you know ;-) register is 44mm. So either Nikon _is_ going the wrong
way, or your EOS mod isn't working :o)


This is nothing to do with EOS. We are talking about putting a Pentax
lens onto a Nikon camera.


I gathered that. My point was that I think your reasoning was initially  
right, and now is wrong. You adapted a K-mount lens to an EOS body with a  
1,46mm spacer, right? The registers are as follows:


EOS register: 44mm
Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register: 46.50mm

So if you made a K to EOS adapter with a 1,46mm spacer, a K to Nikon  
adapter would require a -1,04mm spacer, i.e. removing material somewhere...


Or am I even more confused than usual? :/

--
Regards, Lucas



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have personally held an SMCA* 85/1.4 Lens that was modified for use on a 
Nikon. The approximately 1 millimeter was added to the back of the lens via 
a modified or constructed Nikon mount that was affixed to the back of the 
lens in place of the Pentax mount. The mount stuck out a little from the 
back, I believe. I was told a little old German guy who used to have a 
little shop on Wilshire Blvd., California did the work. If it's the same guy 
I visited years ago, he was certainly qualified to do the work. He used to 
modify lens mounts for use on movie cameras too, I believe. He's passed on 
now...

Bob, I love you and want to have your children.

Thanks.




Cheers,
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Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, William Robb wrote:


Three grand is about what I paid for my istD.
I got a battery pack and cheap lens with it, but it was still three grand.


Irrespective of what you paid, you are currently comparing a $1.2K 
camera to a $3K camera.


Point taken about the upgrade path etc.

Kostas



Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds

2005-10-06 Thread Christian


- Original Message - 
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds



Kirk made, but seems to have discontinued, the Ground Shot 2.


The only thing from Kirk I could find is this:
http://www.kirkphoto.com/supports.html#lowpod

Not good for crawling through sand or anything else for that matter. 
It's more of a static support.


Christian 



Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds

2005-10-06 Thread Christian


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds


Some excellent shots, Christian. You're really getting a handle on the 
bird biz. And thanks for the info on this ground pod.


Thanks, Paul!  Birds are my favorite subject so it's an area I really want 
to improve.


Christian 



Re: Fall in the Adirondacks

2005-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/05, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed:

I gathered that. My point was that I think your reasoning was initially  
right, and now is wrong. You adapted a K-mount lens to an EOS body with a  
1,46mm spacer, right?

Correct sir.



The registers are as follows:

EOS register: 44mm
Pentax register: 45.46mm
Nikon register: 46.50mm

So if you made a K to EOS adapter with a 1,46mm spacer, a K to Nikon  
adapter would require a -1,04mm spacer, i.e. removing material somewhere...

Adding 1.04mm material. The idea is to match the Pentax lens to the
Nikon. To get the Pentax lens 'up' to the register distance of the Nikon,
you have to add ~1mm of length to the back of the lens (or indeed the
front of the Nikon body) so that the lens focusses at the right place.

Here is a good resource:

http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/index-frameset.html?Lens-
adapters.html~mainFrame

Note paragraph headed:

WILL IT FIT?

best,


Or am I even more confused than usual? :/




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RE: Juan in Action: Siena mini-PDML pictures

2005-10-06 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Nice pictures Gianfranco.

I visited Siena in the terrible 2003 summer (the
hottest I have ever experienced) and I liked it even
more than Florence (maybe I expected too much from
Florence, or too little from Siena !).

I recently had a couple of opportunities to met Juan
in Spain, but unfortunately we couldn't finally get
together. At least you give us some insight in how he
approaches his 'victims'... ;-)

Regards,
Jaume


 --- Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:

 Hi guys and gals,
 
 I managed to build a gallery with some of the
 pictures taken
 during our recent Siena mini-PDML:
 

http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=533571
 
 Hope you'll enjoy them.
 Feel free to comment and criticize at will...
 :-)
 
 Ciao,
 
 Gianfranco
 
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RE: Starring Knarf

2005-10-06 Thread Malcolm Smith
Dario Bonazza wrote:

 You can also get a purist version:
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blurbw.jpg

LOL!

Malcolm




Re: Setting Up a Web Site

2005-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
No, no...don't read any sarcasm into that message. It was my clumsy
attempt to compliment you.
This has been scanned and, also, found clear of sarcasm. REALLY!

Jack




--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/10/05, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Well, Cotty, if I happen to have the same thought as you,  I'll
 assign
 it to my good luck.
 
 Please do. I said satire, not sarcasm.
 
 
 
 
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Re: 50 years of photojournalism

2005-10-06 Thread E.R.N. Reed

David Mann wrote:

I'm having trouble working out why I prefer PJ photos in black   
white.  Does anyone else have this preference? 


Apparently plenty of people (though I am not one.) A certain PJ friend 
of mine once expressed it to me as sometimes color gets in the way. 
Does that resonate with you?




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