Re: Old/new lenses on FF (was K3 problem using flash and AA)

2013-10-17 Thread Dario Bonazza
Larry Colen wrote: I doubt these lenses do any worse on digital than they did on film. We are just looking more closely at the results. My reply: Yes, this is another important point. Now we don't accept as decent a lens performance which was perceived as great on film. Another main factor

Re: Geso, photos from our Thanksgiving long week end in Madawaska Ontario

2013-10-17 Thread Bob W
That's a lovely set, especially the early morning shots on the creek. B On 17 Oct 2013, at 01:10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-madawaska1/album/index.html Mostly with the K-5, one with the G3 ir. Annual trek up north for the long weekend,

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Larry Colen
Do hamentaschen count as hats? Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that hats are perfectly safe for now and very likely for more than just now. On 10/17/2013 1:53 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I wouldn't sit down at the table quite yet. No reason to believe Pentax will go 24 x 36.

Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Peter McIntosh
VERY big bushfires in the immediate vicinity of Brian Walter's house. Trust you're safe and ok. Pete Mac Who used to live not far from Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
I think you meant tricorne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricorne)... On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Do hamentaschen count as hats? Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that hats are perfectly safe for now and very likely for more than

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com: VERY big bushfires in the immediate vicinity of Brian Walter's house. Trust you're safe and ok. Thanks, Pete. So far, so good but for the first time in the 30+ years we've lived at Castlereagh we decided to evacuate. Packed the cat and my photos

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: ...but better safe than sorry. Please keep that way. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: PESO - Ghost Bike

2013-10-17 Thread Bulent Celasun
How sad... I thought such an acciddent taking the life of a cyclist should be a rare event in your city. I cannot even imagine someone on a bike on our inner city roads... Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Peter McIntosh
Good to hear you're safe and well. Our son is in Cranebrook and is keeping us updated. Take care! Pete Crazy - we've got the same stupid-strong winds down here, but it's yet to get over 6 DegC outside... On 17 October 2013 19:19, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Peter

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: ...but better safe than sorry. Please keep that way. Thanks Boris, I'll do my best :-) The worst seems to be over and we're home again. We can still see active

Re: Geso, photos from our Thanksgiving long week end in Madawaska Ontario

2013-10-17 Thread Chris Mitchell
Excellent set of pictures. I love the misty ones. Chris On 17 October 2013 01:10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-madawaska1/album/index.html Mostly with the K-5, one with the G3 ir. Annual trek up north for the long weekend, turkey, beer and

Re: PESO: My first DeepSkyStacker attempt

2013-10-17 Thread Chris Mitchell
Superb Darren. Chris On 16 October 2013 00:00, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Y'all may recall (hey, that rhymes!) the m31 (Andromeda galaxy) image I shared a few days ago. It was a single 45 second exposure and made from a single in-camera JPEG (not even the RAW file). Refresher

Re: PESO: Big Ears

2013-10-17 Thread Chris Mitchell
An excellent portrait. A little startling on the eye though, Has it been sharpened by any chance? Chris On 3 October 2013 08:57, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: A portrait of a pretty Kudu cow. Kudus are quite large antelopes. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/10065637225/lightbox/ K7

Re: monitor calibration and science behind it

2013-10-17 Thread Chris Mitchell
Me too. Well spotted. On 16 October 2013 14:21, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Ditto. On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Bookmarked. Thanks! On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: For those who are

Re: PESO Gabbi

2013-10-17 Thread Chris Mitchell
You're getting good at this portrait lark aren't you. Another good one. Chris On 14 October 2013 18:11, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Sigh. And here would be the link ... http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10273368506/ On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Bruce Walker

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Brian, you are just having too many adventures! your life as a graph chart for the year looks like a lot of w's andm's SEriously, take good care and all fingers crossed for your home being safe. Peter, thanks for alerting all of us ann On 10/17/2013 04:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting

Re: Big Ears (with uncropped version)

2013-10-17 Thread Alan C
Thanks to those who looked commented. Basically only a crop. I did fiddle a bit. Here is the un-cropped shot as taken. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/10327177745/lightbox/ Kudus are browsers so this is a bad time of the year with few leaves on the trees. A magical transformation

Re: PESO - Ghost Bike

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bulent, Problems in the suburbs too. Think bikes and drivers on cell phones. They are simply the worst. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: How sad... I thought such an acciddent taking the life of a cyclist should be a rare event in

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brian, Like Boris says, stay safe. Glad to hear you're back home. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: ...but

Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Jack Davis
Wife and I took a drive to Lake Tahoe yesterday. Was a beautiful Fall weather day, but we missed the peak fall colors. Found a cabin and out building with just one standing side and another unique scene along the shore of the lake.   Comments invited.   Jack  

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack, Can it be a building if only one side is standing? And the second shot, you guys channeling Kennebunkport, Maine? Break the law and get your representation all in one stop. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Wife and I took a drive

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Paul Sorenson
Interspersed... On 10/17/2013 8:25 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Wife and I took a drive to Lake Tahoe yesterday. Was a beautiful Fall weather day, but we missed the peak fall colors. Found a cabin and out building with just one standing side and another unique scene along the shore of the lake.

OT: The face of crime

2013-10-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
From New South Wales, in the 1920s and 1930s: http://twistedsifter.com/2013/10/vintagecandid-mugshots-of-dapper-criminals/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013, Brian Walters wrote: It's a bit early in the season for this sort of madness - not looking forward to summer at all. Yeesh, that's exactly what I was thinking (from California, where our fire season is almost over -- hopefully). crossed tentaclesknock steel -- Hugs and

FSF: Cult Classic Vivitar Series-1 90-180mm f4.5 Flat Field (macro)

2013-10-17 Thread Darren Addy
I will be on the road tomorrow, so I hope you will permit me to post this a day earlier than normal. The astrophotography bug is biting and so I'm looking to purchase a lens that will perform on the other end of the spectrum from this one and to pay for it I need to move a couple of my better

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: Do hamentaschen count as hats? Wrong time of year. (Even if I did eat one on Sunday.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person:

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013, Bill wrote: Looing at the price of a K3, and the price of the new Sony, it's hard to justify not doing FF based on the price point. The spread just isn't a few thousand dollars like it was a few years ago. Oddly enough, people make exactly the same argument WRT m4/3 vs

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The smaller format has a different dynamic, which some of us prefer. Godfrey On Oct 17, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: Looing at the price of a K3, and the price of the new Sony, it's hard to justify not doing FF based on the price point. The spread just isn't a few

OT: Market Cap comparison of Ricoh and Nikon

2013-10-17 Thread Darren Addy
Appropo of nothing, I found it interesting that Ricoh Co LTD has a larger market cap than Nikon (788B to 719.87B). Canon is *much* larger at 3.6T -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Jack Davis
Well.. ahem! as I said, my wife was along and seems to shun massages.(?) Go figure ;-))   Jack On Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:01 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Interspersed... On 10/17/2013 8:25 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Wife and I took a drive to Lake Tahoe yesterday. Was a

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Jack, Can it be a building if only one side is standing? Actually, in California it can. If you completely tear down your house *except for one wall* you can re-build a mansion on the same spot and it's considered the same house – so you don't get your

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul! I have the same reaction, but it also  It does seem to instill a feeling of sadness. Thanks for commenting.   Jack     On Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:57 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Well.. ahem! as I said, my wife was along and seems to shun massages.(?) Go figure

Re: PESO: Root

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Dan, I really love the rendering in this: muted, desaturated colour, a little noise. It'd be a terrific start to a small book of such natural scenes. Nicely done. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: PESO Gabbi

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Chris. I'm pretty chuffed with it myself. :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: You're getting good at this portrait lark aren't you. Another good one. Chris On 14 October 2013 18:11, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Sigh. And

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:13:22AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: I think you meant tricorne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricorne)... This is the reference that I learned as a kid... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamantash Another folk story is that Haman wore a three-cornered hat ---thus the

Re: OT: Market Cap comparison of Ricoh and Nikon

2013-10-17 Thread Postmaster
Darren Addy wrote: Appropo of nothing, I found it interesting that Ricoh Co LTD has a larger market cap than Nikon (788B to 719.87B). Canon is *much* larger at 3.6T Was the one for Nikon *just* Nikon or was it for the parent company (Mitsubishi)? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: FSF: Cult Classic Vivitar Series-1 90-180mm f4.5 Flat Field (macro)

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Darren, That's too low a price! I'd snap it up if I didn't already have a copy here somewhere. The quality is legendary for a Macro and the zoom makes it outstanding. It was one of the first lenses I lusted after some 20 years ago. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Darren Addy

Re: OT: Market Cap comparison of Ricoh and Nikon

2013-10-17 Thread Darren Addy
Just Nikon. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Postmaster postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Darren Addy wrote: Appropo of nothing, I found it interesting that Ricoh Co LTD has a larger market cap than Nikon (788B to 719.87B). Canon is *much* larger at 3.6T Was the one for Nikon *just* Nikon or

PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
Hello all! Half of the autumn has already passed, and yet I've not seen many pastel pictures on the list. Thus I'm biting the bullet and bellow I put two links (one 2.9 MiB and 400 KiB variants) of an autumn-scape I've captured today while on the road.

Re: FSF: Cult Classic Vivitar Series-1 90-180mm f4.5 Flat Field (macro)

2013-10-17 Thread Darren Addy
I appreciate the feedback, Bob. Alright, I'll start the price at $450 and come down to $399 if I need to, in time. :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Darren, That's too low a price! I'd snap it up if I didn't already have a copy here somewhere. The

Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
A colorful start to autumn! Muted colors but pretty. Bob S. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! Half of the autumn has already passed, and yet I've not seen many pastel pictures on the list. Thus I'm biting the bullet

Re: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread kwaller
Hi Ciprian I have a couple of comments that should improve this image - I'd crop out the blank sky as it doesn't add anything to the image. And while I wasn't there the red cast, especially in the sky doesn't seem real in this case. Other than the colors, I'm not sure what I should be

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: And the 'simpler' 24mp model with aa filter is usd 1700. $1700 now. In six months? A year? How long till full-frame hits $1500? According to T.O.P. the Canon 6d is selling TODAY for $1574.00

Re: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread Jack Davis
Somewhat muted by the haze, but a pleasing scene.   Jack On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:12 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Hi  Ciprian I have a couple of comments that should improve this image - I'd crop out the blank sky as it doesn't add anything to the image. And

Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Walker
A very handsome landscape. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! Half of the autumn has already passed, and yet I've not seen many pastel pictures on the list. Thus I'm biting the bullet and bellow I put two links (one 2.9

re: Quick Release recommendations...

2013-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Darren, How's the P0 head working out for you? Did you get one of the standard Arca-Swiss compatible clamps for it yet? Godfrey For those, like me, who may be a bit confused over Sunway Foto's selection of clamps, QR plates, and L-Brackets, here is a link to their catalog:

Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:12 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Hi Ciprian I have a couple of comments that should improve this image - Comments are always welcomed, especially those critical, thus let's see... I'd crop out the blank sky as it doesn't add anything to the image. The

Re: Quick Release recommendations...

2013-10-17 Thread Darren Addy
Love the Arca-Swiss monoball. Yes, I got Sunwayfoto DLC-60 clamp and it is really nice. The only fly in the ointment is that I really should have gotten the DLC-60L which has a long extension on the knob: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=sku=899234is=REGA=detailsQ= The regular

Re: FSF: Cult Classic Vivitar Series-1 90-180mm f4.5 Flat Field (macro)

2013-10-17 Thread Alastair Robertson
Darren can you comment on this post http://www.photography-forums.com/vivitar-series-one-90-180-4-5-flat-field-macro-and-pentax-k10d-t83670.html Does it mount on a K10 or K5? Alastair On 18 October 2013 07:13, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate the feedback, Bob. Alright,

Re: Quick Release recommendations...

2013-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks, it sounds good. This head would be a good fit on my Feisol legs due to the way they fold for packing, that's why I'm interested. But it has to be compatible with my existing plates. Godfrey On Oct 17, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Love the Arca-Swiss

Re: FSF: Cult Classic Vivitar Series-1 90-180mm f4.5 Flat Field (macro)

2013-10-17 Thread Darren Addy
Hi Alastair, Thanks for your question. Our own Mark Roberts addresses this issue: http://www.robertstech.com/flange.htm I followed his advice and had that part machined so, yes, it works perfectly on Pentax DSLRs. I have not bothered to blacken the machined edge. Images of the lens can be seen in

Re: FSF: Cult Classic Vivitar Series-1 90-180mm f4.5 Flat Field (macro)

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Forums is giving me problems signing in, but here's the answer. The vivitar has a somewhat larger cowel on the aperture lever. It worked fine on the original KM, KX, and K2 film cameras of the era. It needed to be cut down to fit in the mirror box of the later ME, MX, etc. If it has been used on a

Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:12 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I have a couple of comments that should improve this image - Comments are always welcomed, especially those critical, thus let's see...

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
That link takes me to the 24-70/2.8 Canon zoom. It's a mere $2400. That makes the price of switching a lot higher than one might think based on the price of the camera alone. On Oct 17, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Christine Aguila
Very glad to hear all is well, Brian. Stay safe. Cheers, Christine On Oct 17, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com: VERY big bushfires in the immediate vicinity of Brian Walter's house. Trust you're safe and ok.

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: That link takes me to the 24-70/2.8 Canon zoom. Oops. Here's the right link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892349-REG/Canon_8035b002_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html It's a mere $2400. That makes the price of switching a lot higher than one might think based on the

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Well the sign shot is funny, of course The cabin shot is nice, but I'm trying to figure out the story... the distance between the wall of the cabin and the tree that burnt seems to make the cabin a very narrow one... was it perhaps a shed of some kind? and the tree behind survived the fire..

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Walker
In case you missed this on TOP, there's a discussion on why this mightn't be a good toy for sticking lens adapters on ... http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013/10/two-reasons.html On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:01:52AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Jack, Can it be a building if only one side is standing? Actually, in California it can. If you completely tear down your house *except for one wall* you can re-build a mansion on the

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Zos Xavius
I'm kind of underwhelmed with the A7 to be honest. First of all, I hate sony as a company and would only buy a camera from them if they were the last company on earth. Secondly, its downright ugly, not that I would care in the end, but dammit I want to look *good* with my camera on my shoulder.

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Nikon 58mm/1.4 portrait lens at BH: $1700 Pentax 55mm/1.4 portrait lens at BH: $800 Go Pentax! On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: That link takes me to the 24-70/2.8 Canon zoom. Oops. Here's the right link:

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Zos Xavius
Who said Pentax wasn't cheaper? :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Nikon 58mm/1.4 portrait lens at BH: $1700 Pentax 55mm/1.4 portrait lens at BH: $800 Go Pentax! On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Zos Xavius
BTW, thanks bruce for that link. There's been a lot of debate about performance with wide angles on the A7. Its nice to see a concise explanation on why the angle of incidence affects IQ. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Who said Pentax wasn't cheaper? :)

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 07:36:31PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: BTW, thanks bruce for that link. There's been a lot of debate about performance with wide angles on the A7. Its nice to see a concise explanation on why the angle of incidence affects IQ. If people thought about cars the way they

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That article keeps making the rounds, even MJ bought it. I wonder whether it's a plot by the camera manufacturers to keep everyone buying OEM lenses...? :-) I've been using mount adapters to fit lenses for a decade. The lensrentals.com article is way over the top from a practical perspective.

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Did you read to the bottom? First, MJ came to the conclusion that adapters weren't for him independently. And then there's this comment: Luke: I put my Zeiss ZM 21mm ƒ/2.8 on the A7r we have here [Luke works at Imaging-Resource —Ed.]. I'm sad to report that color shifts were severe and covered

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Zos Xavius
IMO a good lens adapter shouldn't present any real problems with image quality. All you should be adding is air. Yes, I realize that at say F2 you might see sharpness issues at infinity when things aren't perfectly aligned but honestly, who needs perfect corner to corner sharpness or expects that

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Zos Xavius
The comment about the 21mm and color shifts has nothing to do with adapters though and everything to do with how RF lenses are designed and their inherent incompatibility with digital sensors. Leica had to pull off some serious engineering to get a full frame to mostly work with RF glass. The Nex6

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
New Zeiss Distagon 55/1.4 $4000 Leica Summicron-M 50/2 ASPH APO $7000 Eh? It's only money. A LOT of money. :-) Godfrey On Oct 17, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Nikon 58mm/1.4 portrait lens at BH: $1700 Pentax 55mm/1.4 portrait lens at BH: $800 Go Pentax!

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've read the article. I was responding to the adapter stuff. Yes, the lens to sensor match is individual ... Some lenses work well on some sensors and not others. In general, RF lenses work best on sensors optimized for them ... That's why I have a Leica M9 for my M-mount lenses, and adapt

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Tom C
From: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com I'm kind of underwhelmed with the A7 to be honest. First of all, I hate sony as a company and would only buy a camera from them if they were the last company on earth. Zos, that statement basically casts a pale over the rest that you write. It's also

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I suspect the NEX 6 sensor match to RF lenses is little more than a happy accident. Godfrey On Oct 17, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: The Nex6 seems to correct for RF lenses, so maybe sony spent some development on this, but the comment about the 21mm is very

Re: PESO - Ghost Bike

2013-10-17 Thread knarf
I find it worse in the suburbs. Cars are going faster and they aren't used to bikes like they are downtown. Thanks for the comments Bob and Bulent. Thanks as well to all who looked. Cheers, frank Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bulent, Problems in the suburbs too. Think bikes and

PESO - Les Montrealais

2013-10-17 Thread knarf
Alexandre and Sebastien are Montreal bike messengers who were recently visiting Toronto: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/les-montrealais.html?m=1 Just a fun little snap. Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel --

Re: PESO - Les Montrealais

2013-10-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I love the expression on the guy on the right. It makes the shot. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:52 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Alexandre and Sebastien are Montreal bike messengers who were recently visiting Toronto:

Re: PESO - Sideways

2013-10-17 Thread knarf
Thanks, Bruce. Much appreciated. Thanks to all who looked. Hope you enjoyed. Cheers, frank Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Nicely captured and presented, Frank. -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what this trick is called but some of

Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands

2013-10-17 Thread knarf
Thanks, Christine! Cheers, frank Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Totally agree with Steve! Cheers, Christine On Oct 12, 2013, at 5:37 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-10-09 21:31 knarf wrote Maybe my favourite of the series so far:

PESO - McGARR!!!

2013-10-17 Thread knarf
Jesse is another Montreal messenger. He yells a lot (especially on line) hence the capital letters. He's a gregarious, loud, fun-loving character. Another quick snap, I've always been a sucker for a big smile: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/10/mcgarr.html?m=1 Taming the late day sun

Re: Report in, Brian!

2013-10-17 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Brian, you are just having too many adventures! your life as a graph chart for the year looks like a lot of w's andm's SEriously, take good care and all fingers crossed for your home being safe. Thanks, Ann and thanks for all the other good wishes

Re: PESO: Root

2013-10-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bruce. I don't know why, but the textures in the root somehow appealed to me. Actually, I am putting together a collection of abstracts, including the mushroom on weathered wood that I used as a recent PESO, the Roman roof tiles I had in one of the PDML annuals, and the following

Re: PESO - McGARR!!!

2013-10-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Charming! He looks quite comfortable and at ease. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:13 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Jesse is another Montreal messenger. He yells a lot (especially on line) hence the capital letters. He's a

Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe

2013-10-17 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for commenting, Ann. I can't recall the relative distance between the near building wall and the burned stump. My sense is that they were about the same distance from the camera. Oddly, the burned stump almost seemed to have been a separate event. I know absolutely nothing about the

Re: PESO: Root

2013-10-17 Thread Jack Davis
 Surprisingly strong colors, Dan. The Twisted tormented bark adds interest. Jack  On Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:09 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bruce.  I don't know why, but the textures in the root somehow appealed to me. Actually, I am putting together a

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Aahz, you appear to not notice that the size/weight/convenience takes a rather big step when you move from APS-C DSLR to m43 mirrorless. It is less so when you move from the likes of Nikon D7000 to Nikon D600. I've held both and D600 is pretty darn convenient. In fact, K3 is bigger/heavier

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Nope, my idea for the joke was that if Cotty were to read a hat, and if it had to do with Oman Ears, the hat would have to be a Tricorne :-). On 10/17/2013 8:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:13:22AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: I think you meant tricorne

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Indeed. I've seen that news item on TOP too. So it would seem we have another round of price wars in this category of cameras. On 10/17/2013 10:24 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: And the 'simpler' 24mp model with aa filter is usd 1700. $1700 now. In six

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
On 10/18/2013 2:19 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: I'm kind of underwhelmed with the A7 to be honest. First of all, I hate sony as a company and would only buy a camera from them if they were the last company on earth. Secondly, its downright ugly, not that I would care in the end, but dammit I want to

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2013-10-17 Thread Christine Aguila
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Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Nikon AF-S 50/1.4G - $419 at BH, Nikon AF 50/1.4D - $339 at BH So, if it is only the prices at BH that is the deciding criteria, Pentax looses. On 10/18/2013 2:23 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Who said Pentax wasn't cheaper? :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread kwaller
The initial image is an APS-C format (3:2 aspect ratio), which I've already cropped to a 2:1 aspect ration while keeping the full width. Thus I was quite afraid of cutting even more of the sky. Unless you're printing to a specific format, I don't see cropping as an issue. Kenneth Waller

Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread kwaller
The third try seems more realistic to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun

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2013-10-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
A+ On 10/17/2013 23:57, Christine Aguila wrote: test -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
I don't know. Initially I was shying away from buying Foigt Heliar 15/4.5 for my Ricoh GXR because of the same stupid fear of corner problems. Fortunately, I've seen the pictures... So far I've observed the violet coloration mostly towards the corners (sometimes it happens if there is severe

Re: PESO: Big Ears

2013-10-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
nice portrait! Kudo a good Scrabble word - also koodoo in our dictionary anyway. I've loved seeing them in zoos here -nice looking beasties ann On 10/16/2013 12:58, Mark C wrote: Nice specimen - looks like the K-7 is serving well! Mark On 10/3/2013 3:57 AM, Alan C wrote: A portrait of a

Re: test

2013-10-17 Thread Stan Halpin
On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: test I'll choose E, All Of The Above. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO - Ghost Bike

2013-10-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Really weird that you posted that just now.. I photographed one yesterday here In NY - but didn't plan to post because the background was too cluttered and it also kind of gave me the willies -- but still I took the photograph. It was a long an actual biking path (!) along the Hudson River

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Reply interspersed: On 10/18/2013 3:49 AM, Tom C wrote: Zos, that statement basically casts a pale over the rest that you write. It's also characteristic of comments often seen here and on many other lists regardless of brand. That is the apparent lack of, or temporary lack of intellectual

Re: test

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Liberman
copy that On 10/18/2013 6:57 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: test -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: The full frame Sony A7 A7R were officially announced last night

2013-10-17 Thread Darren Addy
I think that it is becoming clear that the APS-C format hits a real sweet spot for making use of a LOT of legacy glass, as well as having digitally optimized lenses available. I can't tell you how happy I am with the K-5ii. You don't have to give up the wide end (as much as you do with 4/3). Lots

Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)

2013-10-17 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:12 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Other than the colors, I'm not sure what I should be looking at - ie I don't see any compositional elements - line, shape, form etc

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