Cesar M. wrote:
Just because it is a 'flagship' does not mean that it will work
perfectly out of the box. As a matter of fact I have owned four Pentax
cameras since new - Super Program, LX, ZX-5, and MZ-S. The Super Program is
the only one that never had a need for warranty work.
Yet
Frantisek wrote:
As Mike (or somebody else?) put it, it's all about quality
standards... 9x12cm was considered too small for anything
photography, then 6x6, then 35mm... now we have digital. As film
offers me unparalleled versatility (so far unparalleled by
digital _in one
A bit of an update on my project, if anyone is curious that is:
The project has been to pick my 100 favorite shots in 35mm BW from the past
20 or so years, from the time I entered photography school in 1982.
I ended up with about 260 (?) possibles after going through thousands of
prints. First
Bob,
December and early Jan are out for me (I'll be in Maine) and as you know,
Jan and Feb aren't terribly hospitable months to wander around the city. How
about planning a Springtime get-together well in advance?
Might give some out-of-towners time to plan a trip if they want to come.
Just a
Paul J. wrote:
i hadn't thought of it that way, as he being ours spokesman.
I wonder if he is a decent photographer. i kinda doubt he is.
I hope Americans dont see him as a Spokesman for Australia!
I wonder too about the connection to photography. Maybe I've just been
immersed in
Paul S. wrote:
I met the Epson rep today at Comp USA. He would be glad to provide some of
their
display prints they use to promote the 1280 and the 2000, but I don't think
that's
what we set out to do. I thought this was all about what PDML members were
able to
accomplish in the digital
Bob S. wrote:
My efforts at making a serious portfolio have been half hearted. I think the
web can provide some incentive. The best that I've managed to do to date was
the Wind Point page I put up some time ago.
http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/WindPoint.html
It takes some effort but
Aaron wrote:
Not that it matters anymore, since I'm getting married, but Aaron's two
rules were No More Nikon Girls and No More 'Actresses'.
My rules are no more married women, no more women in the middle of a
divorce, no more models, no more (much) younger women, and no more lawyers.
At
I wrote:
Yeah, and the lens sucks, too. Fuji-bokeh, ugly. You wouldn't like it,
Aaron.
And Aaron wrote:
Well, I hear the lens is really sharp. But if the bokeh is ugly, well,
that's it, no sale.
Well, actually, the lens IS really sharp--it's actually a wonderful lens (it
does suck wide
Cheapskate Aaron wrote:
I bought Vanessa an ME Super, so she's a Pentax girl. You might try to
work it that way, Chris.
Not even a ZX-5N? What's her engagement ring made of, kid, glass?
--Mike
Just kidding, Aaron. But I figured you'd spend more money where it really
counts. g
Tom C. wrote:
Subject: Re: My article about Portfolios
OK... it Mike... Where's Part III?
Tom C.
Uh...well...that's what M.C. Lau (director of the MIR site) and Fred Newman
(who published the piece in The View Camera Store newsletter--or wants to)
keep asking me
I guess I
Dave B. wrote:
Mike.I started my horsey portfolio 2 years ago,put
it aside due toreal workduties and never went back to it.
I think this might kick start me again.
My friend A. D. Coleman likes to use the term reify--it means to make
real. His idea is that a portfolio can't be vaporware, or
Sorry, can someone e-mail me the site where there's info about the MZ-6?
Somehow I missed it.
TIA,
--Mike
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Cesar M. wrote:
I will not give in to medium format! I will not give in to medium format!
I will not give in to medium format! ...
Sounds like another lost soul is in need of enabling, Gang.
Squad, mobilize!
--Mike, Enabler Emeritus
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Like when a person wants to turn right or pass somebody on the right at a
stop situation and they have a gap as much as 1 foot wider than their car
but they have so little conception of the location of the corners of their
vehicle that they
Enabling at its finest. I don't have anything to add, just thought we should
all read this again. g
--Mike
William Robb wrote:
I didn't think I wanted to get involved with medium format
either. I was using a very good 35mm camera, with a very good
lens, and had my processing routine nailed
I don't usually pass along jokes, but I thought this was hilarious.
http://www.newlabour.co.uk/penguin.htm
--Mike
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major snip
I expect I have mentioned this before, but I truly believe that
aspiring photo artists (and I think most on this group fit the
description in one way or another) owe it to their craft to use
medium format equipment.
I can work my
Aaron wrote:
Uh oh, guys, someone help me...I've just been tempted by a used Fuji AF
645 point shoot! This money is earmarked for that Pentax 67 75mm f2.8
lens...oh n...
Quick, someone give me a good reason not to buy this thing.
Because you need that 75mm to write the rest of
Bob Walkden wrote:
I joined the RPS (www.rps.org) a couple of years ago and earlier this year
got my Licentiate distinction, which is the 1st of 3 leading to the
Fellowship. For these you have to put together a portfolio (they call
it a panel)
[snip]
I do intend to put my panel on my
That link gets me only a blank page. Is something missing?
It's supposed to be a flashmedia clip with a couple of penguins. Don't know
how to help if you're not getting it.
--Mike
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Malcolm S. wrote:
Whoa! Some of us (alright me) need this sort of advice
[snip]
You may know it all, I don't.
Malcolm,
I finally found my article on preparing a portfolio--you can read it at:
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/opinion/mikejohnston/index.htm
Hope this helps--
--Mike
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Juan B. wrote:
An exciting project yes, as in painful, horrible,
bad-for-your-self-confidence experience :-)
Yes, it's definitely tough. I ended up with only about 190 possibles
although I'm sure there are more to be found--some that I remember I know
I'll want. I found another big load of
pentax-discuss-digest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since I am going to be available in six months for full-time
photography (can't just sit still when I retire) I am working on a web
site to show my photography. In order to attract as many hits as
possible, I chose the theme San Antonio City
Frank T. wrote:
She was as lovely today as when we were dating.
Women. You can't live with 'em, and you can't shoot 'em without a Pentax.
--Mike
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Do we all need to take our Pentaxadril?
Okay, Mafud made a comment about how expensive digital prints are to make.
This was in error. All our resident lab technicians have jumped all over him
repeatedly and made sure the rest of us know he's wrong. Is it really
necessary to continue to taunt him
The all-too-infrequently-posting Bob Walkden wrote:
how disappointing. I thought from the subject line that it was
going to be an auction for something that priests sprinkle on the
congregation, like holy water...
Curious, but my reaction to that auction was that I really have no
Mafud wrote:
It appears I was correct in my assertions. No way would a pro lab (any) do
digital for the same price as film.
To get some actual data for this discussion, I called two different labs in
Milwaukee, where I live. Both are full-service photographic labs that also
do digital.
Kent G. wrote:
I agree completely. Smaller chip size is often preferable because the same
aspect ratio can be done with a smaller lighter lens. Whether anybody
settles on 1.3x or 1.6x remains to be seen.
Kents,
I know you're agreeing with ME here so for me to agree right back again is
Alan C. wrote:
The MZ-S was good enough for me, if and only if, it had a higher
magnification viewfinder. Okay, Pentax did choose to produce the multicoated
glass eyepiece again (what I have been waiting for), but then they took away
another important element.
Alan,
I agree. The most
Paul S. wrote:
Sometimes, when I've had a bit too much of the
single malt, and I just feel like admiring a camera, I'll mount that 135
on an LX, set it down on the table, and just step back and admire it.
Sick, isn't it? : )
Not around here.
--Mike
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I'm getting back to a really exciting project...
A few years ago I decided to do a portfolio of my 100 Best 35mm Prints.
Before I even started on it, I moved house and had to give up my darkroom.
So last night I decided to get back to it. A lot of times I leaf through
stacks of prints and think
Pal wrote:
Sure, but this is not commensurate with your statement that people can post
whatever is on their mind - what kind of self-restrain is that?. It is this
statement I strongly disagree with. In fact, Mike did just that; giving a
friendly reminder but you didn't feel comfortable with
Chris wrote:
Nope, Mafud = wrong. Unless you want to print your own
dictionary. :) Of course, I could see that use of civilian in a joking
manner, but as you informed us earlier, you never joke.
Heh heh. But I do.
Mafud, you're the lightning rod here! *I* was the one who used the term
Juan B. wrote:
Let's not get into it, huh, guys, please?
Sheesh, what this list needs is a good censor. g, d, r
No worries, I'm out.
Juan, you are not only a talented photographer, but a gentleman. :-)
--Mike
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Mark R. wrote:
I also think that the D30 will be obsoleted quickly; It has neither the
wide angle advantage of a full-frame CCD nor the 1.6x focal length
magnification
of smaller CCDs. Either of these makes sense to me and the D30 is neither
one nor the other; it's too much of a compromise
Collin B. wrote:
My darkroom often gets down to 64 deg. F.
Development charts don't cover that range.
Anyone know of info that covers wider ranges
than the published specs, or should I just
take the time to warm up the soup?
You can use a water bath for film. In the winter, make the water
Michael Reichmann says he just got back from doing his first major shoot
with the P67II and that he'll be updating his review on Luminous Landscape
soon. I mentioned some of your comments to him and he says thanks.
--Mike
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Graywolf wrote:
Most folk are leary ot being photographed when they are knowingly breaking
the law.
I would say, purely as a seat of the pants judgment, that photographers I've
known or heard of have had far more difficulty with private citizens and
lawbreakers than with the police.
Mafud wrote:
SUVs would best serve the country as: 1. Landfill and/or 2. stripped down,
degreased then dropped in ponds to provide habitat for fishes.
GO MAFUD!!
Lol!
--Mike
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Paul G. wrote:
Just a little correction here, in most states you can't drive a sports car,
or any car, at 120 mph, but...in Wyoming there is no speed limit other than
reasonable and prudent.
Having driven there last year, with a full size van (15-17 mpg) at about
90-100 mph, I was blown
Graywolf wrote:
2. That inkjet printers can do far better than I had reason to believe. I
honestly did not think that any inkjet could produce a print I would have
rated an F. The fact that not only can they, but that one a couple of
generations old did it, is admazing.
A 1270 isn't really
For those who may not be aware of it, there's a pretty good Internet review
of the MZ-S here:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/pentax_mzs.html
--Mike
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Is it just me, or has anybody else noticed that just as soon as we stopped
talking about off-topic posts and censorship, OT posts seemed to
proliferate wildly around here?
I'm not saying this in judgment--just an observation. (I'm also not saying I
haven't been guilty of it myself, because I've
Collin wrote:
As a final note, one of my pictures is in a
frame on their mantel.
Respectfully, I would suggest that that's because you're a superior
photographer armed with professional-quality equipment, not because digital
is inherently a real pain in the ass. I could just as easily
Juan wrote:
BTW, as evidence of how SUVs are evil, I present the many pictures of
Taliban riding on Toyotas 4x4 we all have seen in the last few months.
No, no, that's evidence that TOYOTA is evil.
Try not to misinterpret the data, Juan!
--Mike
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Bill P. wrote:
@#%()@*#$^(
Bill Gates! @$)%*#!@^ Windows!! %$*(%)^* Outlook!!!
I'll second that.
--Mike Macintosh Uber Alles Johnston
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How do you arrive at this conclusion? I've a couple of Pentax meters,
both analog and digital, and they are both absolutely on the money.
There's no leakage outside the metering spot in either of them.
There's leakage outside the metering spot in ALL spot meters. And it's not
consistent. It
Collin and Juan squared off thusly:
Best nonsequiter I've read in a while.
Non sequitur? What doesn't follow, pray tell?
Let's not get into it, huh, guys, please?
Sheesh, what this list needs is a good censor. g, d, r
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William R. wrote:
Umm, a small question of semantics I would like answered. You
use the term photojournalist, and civilian as if they are
separate entities. I have seen this usage of teminology before
from time to time.
I was always under the impression that a civilian is anyone
who is not
Didn't the Canadians nearly take Washington DC in some border
dispute at some point?
Well, that's what it says in CANADIAN history books.
g
--Mike
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Chris B. wrote:
Why does everyone
always argue that the price of printers, paper and ink need to be factored
into comparing digital and film cameras? Do you include the price of a
good minilab into the purchase of your film camera? If you don't want to
print them yourself, take the files
Good Tom C. wrote:
I agree that NASA does research, but what portion of their
government-controlled budget is devoted to solar?
[snip, snip. Snip snip snip]
[snip]
[Snip]
[SNIP]
Sierra, well
Ctty wrote:
D'oh The trouble with me is that if i type too fast thenn thngss
gt reealy bad in th splleing detprtment.
Srroy,
Ctty
Nr prbblm.
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Cotty wrote:
I filmed on a Hungarian airbase in the early 90s, and boy were THEY
touchy !
If you ever happen to see a trucker hosing out a tanker at a truckstop on
the American Interstate system, try to take some pictures of him. Chances
are you'll wish you were in Greece.
--Mike
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Bill S. wrote:
- I also carry in my head questions asked by John Shaw (and I paraphrase):
Could you find your 24mm lens in your camera bag right now? Another is: If
your lens manufacturer had wanted you to put a filter on your lens, don't
you think they would have sold it to you that way?
Frank T. wrote, shamelessly OT:
Oh yeah, and they roll over more easily, due to their high centre of gravity.
You forgot the fact that they cut down on visibility significantly for other
drivers, which also contributes to accidents. SUVs as a fashion (the station
wagons of the '90s) are
By the way, we all need to get over to photographyreview.com and post some
reviews of Pentax lenses. There are very few reviews posted, in the 35mm
Primes section, anyway.
--Mike
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Sorry Mike, she never talked to anyone. More urban rumors...She died on
impact...She was ~not~ alive as people tried to get her out...driver, Dodi
and Di, all dead.
Mafud,
It was widely reported at the time (CNN, London Times, CBS) that
Bob W. wrote:
One thing it doesn't do is advance in any way what was changing into a
potentially interested discussion about the recent French laws, which I
haven't seen discussed here. Whoever was ultimately responsible for the
car crash it doesn't change the fact that the supercharged
By the way, this is TOTALLY OT, but if you have young children, consider
pointing out to them that the famous man everybody's talking about on TV
died very young and was killed by smoking. George Harrison was a heavy
smoker all his life and suffered from several cancers all related to
smoking.
Bob W. wrote:
newly signed (but with his 1971 signature) 1st edition vbg of
Vietnam, Inc. by Philip Jones Griffiths. (thanks for giving me
the opportunity to drop that one into the conversation :o))
Okay, Walkden, I'm jealous. Cut it out now.
--Mike
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Bob W. wrote:
If you apply the same reasoning to print journalism as you've applied to
photographic journalism
Whoa, whoa, WHO there Hoss! I'm not arguing in FAVOR of the French law.
I'm just trying to interpret how it might have held some sort of
hard-to-detect appeal to otherwise
Cotty wrote:
Jane Brown 'Faces'*
I thought it was Jane BOWN, no?
Whatever, if it's the book I'm thinking of, I liked that one too. I'm sorry
I don't own it.
--Mike
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Bob H. wrote:
Another suit I recall hearing about a while back -- the woman who
appeared in Dorothea Lange's famous photo, Migrant Mother (PDML
reference, p. 599), sued years later, because the photo made her look
poor and hopelessly destitute but she had become successful and entered
the
Dave B. wrote:
With the list members truly covering the 4 corners of the
world)its very interesting to see what the planet looks
like at the same time(well a 2 hour window)
Is it? I find it totally trivial and completely unsuited to photography's
strengths. I've never cared a whit for
Tom C. wrote:
I understand your point...I would guess that these are all exceptions to the
rule.
Okay. I don't agree.
My point is that for YEARS and YEARS AND YEARS a larger negative/film
size has been seen as way to increase the quality (I know you resist that
term) of one's work, in
Aaron wrote:
When I was working at Sterling we had a guy who brought in a camera (a
Pentax MZ-50, actually) that had a badly deformed shutter with a
thumbprint in the middle of it. He insisted for about fifteen minutes
that it had just been that way when he opened the camera and that no one
Graywolf wrote:
I want to apologize to the list for my bad manners. My issue with Kent
should have been discussed privately and respectfully with him.
Now see, isn't this a great list? You all are a great bunch of folks. Where
else on the internet do people apologize like civilized men and
By the way
I believe I'm going to stop agitating in favor of digital now. I've made my
points _ad nauseam_ . I don't really want to become the List's official
digital booster. I will say that if I had the money I'd get a D30 right now.
And I'll be waiting for PMA this February. But if
Tom C. wrote:
Sure, but those reviews are written for many people, myself included, who
don't totally understand the measurements. So to rate a lens on a scale and
to give it a qualitative assesment is helpful. Seeing the actual images
and how the measurements relate is even better.
Obviously, you do not think I am very smart. That is OK. I know you are
stupid...[snip]
Ad hominem attacks are what come of discussing politics--inevitably, it
seems. We should remember that we are brothers and sisters only as Pentax
users, and in our interest in, or love of, photography. We
Nick W. wrote:
Just wanted to let you all know that I got the photography editor's
position at a small local daily paper... I'm sooo excited! This post is
only semi-OT because I use all Pentax equipment. W H!!!
Heartiest congratulations! You're gonna have a lot of fun. Nice
Isaac wrote:
I see the current crop of 2-4 megapixel cameras as being
closer to 35mm than 35mm is to 4x5...
Well said.
--Mike
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Hey Shel, I got _The Pencil_ yesterday. Looks really interesting. I started
it last night and stayed up to late.
In return I'll share one of my faves with you--_The Nature and Art of
Workmanship_ by David Pye. Nifty little book and lots of ideas that are
applicable directly and indirectly to
Okay, since opening salvos in a gathering flame war have now been fired by
both sides, I move that we, the PDML, agree that this is not a list for
discussing taxes, taxation, and government fiscal matters.
All in favor say aye.
Aye,
--Mike
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Mafud wrote:
And worse, most of those images were made with medium format cameras!
Not all of them, honorable friend. My buddies in Washington tell me that
half the cameras at Presidential press conferences are digital, and a recent
_PEOPLE_ cover was shot with a D30, and you'll never see any
Allegedly, Isaac wrote:
When people ask why I like to shoot with large format cameras, I usually
tell them that I'm lazy... I have, from the very first, found that it is
MUCH easier to get beautiful prints from large format negs. I have to work
like hell and jump through all sorts of hoops
Pål wrote:
BTW When the news about an LX with AF and a camera the owners would like
to take to their graves broke in Japan, signals from the Pentax user
community indicated that many (some?) were willing to pay up to $4000 for
it. Most, though, expected it to fit in the $2000 - $3000 range.
Paul J. wrote:
Its for a friend of my fathers who has had a SP since new and has worn the
ever ready case out.
Paul,
This is cool. Must be an interesting guy.
--Mike
P.S. The cases come up fairly often on eBay. You may have to keep checking
back.
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Man... $13,000 for the one that plays 33 and 45 rpm, and $20,000 for the
one that plays 78s as well...
If I was rich, I'd totally have one of these. ;)
Actually, even the rich guys (and audiophiles are fools for forking over
their own money) don't tend to buy these. They don't sound that
Shel wrote:
The K1000 had a very long run, and may still be manufactured in China
under a different name. Technology and the demands of marketing and
consumers often dictate new models. Frankly, I could never understand
the fascination around the K1000. Sure, it was built well, but it had
This is the WORST sort of mental masturbation, but this is what my all-time
perfect camera would be like:
It would be built by Pentax to the same high standards as the Spotmatics
(with the same kind of cosmetic durability--more old Spotties look better
for longer than any other kind of old
Kent G. wrote:
And when you pay a tax for some kind of service you either get or
potentially get for free if you use it counts against the total tax
percentage because you are receiving the equivalent of a cash payment you
would have had to pay for out of your own pocket prior to most of the
Kent G. wrote:
Why did just about every other maker also stop making most pr all of their
manual bodies. Because they can't make enough from selling them to break
even. Hardly anybody buys new ones when there are plenty of used ones
around. Even though the last K1000 bodies were made in
Issac (I think...I'm never really sure...g) wrote:
I guess you could call me a large
format snob, I've never really considered 35mm all that great as far as
image quality goes.
35mm really isn't a printer's medium. In the '30s and '40s it was considered
miniature, and no self-respecting
Mafud:
Not in ~my~ experiences with Photoshop.
Isaac:
How many years? What versions? How much per day? Any schooling?
Whew, these are truly pertinent questions. One of my writers at the magazine
was John Paul Caponigro, the son of the great landscape photographer Paul
Caponigro and a
Geordie wrote:
Any
moment you have free time, jump outside and start shooting.
It works.
So true. Photography is like jogging: the more time you devote exclusively
to it, the greater the benefit you will reap.
I learned this when I was testing cameras. There were times when I'd just
Tom C. wrote:
Sorry, I'm not intending to argue or belabor the point.
Don't apologize! These are valuable things to discuss. They lead to better
understanding.
But is that always the case (that quality is subjective)? Let's compare
theoretical lenses A and B. We run them through the
Mike W. wrote:
A paradox of the first order, unless. the margins of error
are so small as to be unnoticable. No, perish the thought that
this could all be marketing speak!
They're insignificant. Depth of focus can extend several millimeters.
There is probably a lot more slop in many
Lon wrote:
Maybe not. As I understand it, APO elements, like any other element,
may be a) plastic, b) molded glass, or c) ground glass, with cost
escalating from a (cheapest) to c (pricey).
No, you're confusing apochromatic with aspherics, which are made in the
types you ennumerate above.
Mafud wrote:
What we're seeing right now is soaring sales in film cameras, APS and high
dollar sophisticated PSs leading the way.
I wonder why?
You're gonna have to cite your sources here, Mafud. What you say simply
isn't true. APS is in the doldrums and single-use cameras are sales volume
Tom R. wrote:
To paraphrase and old saying; figures don't lie, but salesmen do figure.
First of all, Tom, I'm not a salesman, not in any way, shape, or form. I
have no connection, official or unofficial, to any company and no financial
interest at all in selling anything except my little
Mafud wrote:
You still read THAT?
Um-hmm. I wanted to break away, but every time I tried to, they yanked me
back! Herb Keppler still manages to pique my interest with his elections of
gadgets. I also got hooked on his self-admitted unobjective tripod mirror-up
tests, which stunned him
Doug F. wrote:
A midwestern friend (Omaha) once told me the winters in the midwest are
so bad because there's nothing between you and the Arctic Circle but a
couple of barbed wire fences. :-)
Har! That's a good one.
--Mike
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Mafud wrote:
I prefer the colour, but that is really a non sequiter, becasue
it is an esthetic judgement rather than a technical one.
Thanks you. I've been waiting for someone to point this out.
--Mike
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William R. wrote:
Keppler rocks. I wish he would change magazines. It is hard to
justify buying Pop just for him. Hey Mike, you still have any
pull over at DCCT?
Heh! Keppler is one of the, if not the, prime movers of _POP_. And even if
he were just a columnist (which he emphatically
Wendy B. wrote:
Alas, I don't like cheese,
Not even Wensleydale?
Oh, of course I *LOVE* Wensleydale!!
LOL!
--Mike
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Ken A. wrote:
I need a little help here. I have been known to squeeze a nickel till
the Indian rides the buffalo, but for the life of me I can't figure out
why anyone would pay twice as much for a lens hood as they did for the
lens.
Ken,
Because someone wanted it enough, I guess. I think I
Gary M. wrote:
Steve Jobs: But we are better then you
Bill Gates: It doesn't matter.
You don't have to be the best to be the biggest. You just have to know how
to market your product so that
the consumer =thinks= you have the best.
Or else you have to be a rapacious, evil bastard
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