Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-08-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Please stop it, or go away. Mike Ignatiev wrote: Let's stop this now.

Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-08-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Please don't change the subject lines on these arguments. Constantly updating killfiles gets to be a real chore. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: OT - Brit and proud (was: Unidentified subject!

2003-07-19 Thread Cotty
My politics is between my brain and my fingers on this list. I suspect the feet fingers. ;-) Caveman, each hairy little one. lol. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads

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2003-07-18 Thread Mike Ignatiev
yup. for President of Iraq. where people would be able to fully appreciate the finer points of his wit. mishka Tony Blair for President :-) Cheers, Cotty

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2003-07-18 Thread Keith Whaley
It's just occurred to me. When Cotty said Tony Blair for President he was trying to get someone to take him up on it, right? g keith Mike Ignatiev wrote: yup. for President of Iraq. where people would be able to fully appreciate the finer points of his wit. mishka Tony Blair for

Re: OT - Brit and proud (was: Unidentified subject!

2003-07-18 Thread Cotty
It's just occurred to me. When Cotty said Tony Blair for President he was trying to get someone to take him up on it, right? g Keith, you should know me better than that. My politics is between my brain and my fingers on this list. Just because I wrote 'Brit and proud' in the subject line

Re: OT - Brit and proud (was: Unidentified subject!

2003-07-18 Thread Keith Whaley
' in the subject line doesn't necessarily mean that I am. However, the opposite could be true. No, I was just stirring ;-) Interesting seeing the reactions though. It's when the stew is stirred that the interesting bits come to the top... g keith Cheers, Cotty

Re: OT - Brit and proud (was: Unidentified subject!

2003-07-18 Thread Caveman
Cotty wrote: My politics is between my brain and my fingers on this list. I suspect the feet fingers. ;-) cheers, caveman

Subject: Re: Hot breaking news - straight from the horse's mouth

2003-07-16 Thread Cotty
Subject: Re: Hot breaking news - straight from the horse's mouth hehe... Good one. Think I'll wait for more stable news, though... ...rather than being taken for a ride Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps

Subject: Re: Texas Leicas - which ?

2003-06-14 Thread John Munro
Paul Jones said: Probaly a Mamiya 7/7II. I've used the 65 and 80mm lenses and they were both excellent, pretty resistent to flare and really sharp corner to corner. I'm not sure wether it would be that great for Street photography, the mamiya is not particually fast to focus and the limited

Re: Subject: Re: Texas Leicas - which ?

2003-06-14 Thread Paul Jones
- Original Message - From: John Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lenses DO have detants at each f/stop. There are no half-stop detants though. Made a typo, thats what i ment. Regards, Paul

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2003-06-08 Thread Cotty
I love these 'take this simple test' posts ;-) So what do _you_ think? [ ] Keep buying used MXs ? [ ] Buy a used LX? Or do I move on to an AF body? And if I go AF, which MZ? [ ] An MZ-3 (black)? [ ] An MZ-S? Or, [ X] Move to digital (either now, C*n*n with RAW output, or wait for

Re: Household items to use as test subject for MACRO?

2003-06-01 Thread Mark Cassino
I'll second Frank's recommendation re paper money. The engraved details are very find and consistent so you can check for corner sharpness. There's also neat graphics hidden in the bills. - MCC At 04:11 PM 5/31/2003 -0400, you wrote: I just got a macro lens I'd like to test with flash

Re:Household items to use as test subject for MACRO?

2003-06-01 Thread collinb
The last batch of flowers you gave your wife. Good for testing films and labs as well. Collin - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any ideas for some small ( 3-5 size ) objects that I might find around the house which would have extremely fine details suitable

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2003-03-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
I have only one thing to say, when I looked at the picture and noticed new Kodak camera (the 14 MP one), it made me feel immediately as if I was looking at some Borg technology. Man, it looks ugly... People making judgments on cameras, or any number of other things for that matter, based on

Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-03-09 Thread Jostein
I'd just like to add voice to the chorus that the Kodak camera sits well in the hand. However, it is touted to be light; which I think it is not. If your hands get weary from carrying an LX for a few hours, you'd need a bit of workout to keep up with this one. It's close to a kilo without

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2003-03-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
to train with...:-) A good neck-strap might be a good idea too... Jostein Hi, first, sorry about the missing subject. I have set a filter on my mailserver to delete all incoming pdml mails, so I can read them in the spare time on the mail-archive.com archive without filling my mailbox

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2003-01-27 Thread Mike Ignatiev
Rob, can you please point me to where i could get one for that much money (that is, under 2k)? mishka Yep, his scanner only provides 3200 dpi at MF, it may have cost a bunch when he bought it but they are selling for well under 2k

Subject: help recovering files in an image after burning a CD

2003-01-22 Thread Mike Ignatiev
No problem. Nero has a component called virtual image drive, or something like this. I have 5.5.x and 5.9.x and both have it. Install it. It will create a bogus CDROM device. Then you can run this virtual drive utility (it would appear someone in the Nero folder) and point it to your *real*

Subject: Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?

2003-01-13 Thread Iren Henry Chu
Dear all, The sales figures from Jodobashi (which is one of the larger camera chain retailer in Japan) suggest differently. Digital cameras from Pentax seldom enter into the top 10: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/yodobashi/yodo-rank.htm It is very hard to believe that Sony was not included

Re: Subject: Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?

2003-01-13 Thread KT Takeshita
On 1/13/03 3:36 AM, Iren Henry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sales figures from Jodobashi (which is one of the larger camera chain retailer in Japan) suggest differently. Digital cameras from Pentax seldom enter into the top 10: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/yodobashi/yodo-rank.htm

Re: Subject: Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?

2003-01-13 Thread KT Takeshita
On 1/13/03 7:46 PM, Iren Henry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been puzzled by the Jodobashi list for some time because of the poor showing of Pentax. Thanks for answering my question. I agree with you that the sales direction of Jodobashi is a bit different from Map Camera. I visited

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2003-01-09 Thread Mishka
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Shaun Canning wrote: What HTML editors or web page creation software are PDMLer's using for their web sites? I am still using Frontpage 2000, which does the job, but is an idiosyncratic little bugger... vi. :) emacs. or notepad. mishka

Re: Refreshing subject? Best film for astro-photography?

2003-01-06 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
At 22:39 4.1.2003 -0500, you wrote: All the Ektachrome E emulsions are great for low light work due to their reciprocity characteristics and their lack of significant color shift. In fact, they are really the only useful slide films in my experience for long exposure work. The E200 is

Re: Refreshing subject? Best film for astro-photography?

2003-01-04 Thread Fred
All the Ektachrome E emulsions are great for low light work due to their reciprocity characteristics and their lack of significant color shift. In fact, they are really the only useful slide films in my experience for long exposure work. I haven't done much astrophotography as of late (say,

Refreshing subject? Best film for astro-photography?

2002-12-29 Thread Brad Dobo
Hey folks, I'm about to make a run down to the camera shop for some film, and was wondering if there is a film that is best suited (35mm) for astro-photography, as I'd like to try my hand in it. I searched the Kodak website, and they have so many films listed.and discontinued. They have

Re: Refreshing subject? Best film for astro-photography?

2002-12-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Refreshing subject? Best film for astro-photography? Hey folks, I'm about to make a run down to the camera shop for some film, and was wondering if there is a film that is best suited (35mm) for astro-photography, as I'd like to try my

Re: Refreshing subject? Best film for astro-photography?

2002-12-29 Thread Peter Alling
I've never done an intentional astro-photography but here's a link to a page that actually seems to know what it's talking about. http://www.astropix.com/HTML/I_ASTROP/FILMS.HTM At 11:52 AM 12/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: Hey folks, I'm about to make a run down to the camera shop for some film,

Re: Refreshing subject?  Best film for astro-photography?

2002-12-29 Thread David Brooks
Actually had some mild success with the dreaded Kodak Max 400.Blew up to 8x10 with little grain. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:52:36 -0500 To: PDML \(Pentax\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Refreshing subject?  Best film for astro

Re[2]: OT: Changing the subject (was Re[2]: 6x6 - Waste of Space? An observation...

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, why do think my polite request deserves such a snide reply? Jumping from the subject of square composition to email headers is a big leap. I, and presumably many other people, who are interested in the square format discussion, are not interested at all, at least in this context, in email

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2002-12-19 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
If I'm shooting in low light conditions and I have a longer lens at f/4 and a shorter lens at f/2.8, is there ever an advantage to using the shorter lens for the wider aperture, but a slower film speed, and then cropping and zooming on a portion of the picture? I do I pretty much always want to

Re: Unidentified subject!

2002-12-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Gregory L. Hansen wrote: If I'm shooting in low light conditions and I have a longer lens at f/4 and a shorter lens at f/2.8, is there ever an advantage to using the shorter lens for the wider aperture, but a slower film speed, and then cropping and zooming on a portion of the picture?

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2002-12-16 Thread Rodelion
Goodday folks, To all you wizzkids out there: I'm probably able to buy a K2 + SMC-K 50/1.4 and a KX + SMC-K 55/1.8, together for like $ 220,- (maybe even less). Is this like a 'good price'? And what should I watch out for? Are there any specific flaws I should check? Thank you for your advice.

Lets change the Subject

2002-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden The authorities hardly care about crudeness and ignorance, but they do care a lot about libel. Brogden, are you calling me crude and ignorant? 'Cause if you are, I'll have you know you are only half right. William Robb

Re: Lets change the Subject

2002-11-21 Thread Chris Brogden
Ha! Tell me you haven't been called worse. :) chris On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden The authorities hardly care about crudeness and ignorance, but they do care a lot about libel. Brogden, are you calling me crude and

Re: Lets change the Subject

2002-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: Lets change the Subject Ha! Tell me you haven't been called worse. :) By poorer excuses for humanity than you, my friend. Bill

RE: No Subject

2002-11-20 Thread Rob Brigham
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Brad, Imagine how expensive they would be if they were made of steel. You're seeing all these expensive plastic lenses because that's what they are making these days. I don't think it's the plastic that is

Re: No Subject

2002-11-20 Thread Pentax Guy
Well, it's too bad I wouldn't find Limited stocked in the city or else I could at the very least go try one out, see what all the fuss is aboot! ;-) Brad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:53 PM Subject: No Subject

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2002-11-19 Thread Pentxuser
Brad, Imagine how expensive they would be if they were made of steel. You're seeing all these expensive plastic lenses because that's what they are making these days. I don't think it's the plastic that is expensive, it's the lenses and the little motors and stuff in them that make them

Re: Unidentified subject!

2002-11-01 Thread Pentxuser
In a message dated 11/2/02 12:24:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thanks now to find a 15mm just one on ebay recently Just a little note of caution. Before I got my 15mm I thought it was the greatest lens ever. It certainly looks cool. Once I got it, I realized that it was not one you

Re: Unidentified subject!

2002-11-01 Thread Fred
Before I got my 15mm I thought it was the greatest lens ever. It certainly looks cool. Once I got it, I realized that it was not one you wanted to carry too often and it was not an easy lens to use. I'm glad I have it and wouldn't trade it for anything but realize that once you have it you

Re: No subject

2002-10-16 Thread Brad Dobo
Read the list and grow up you juvenile. Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: tim@tim-home Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:55 PM Brad, stopm being an idiont on the list Give it up for all our sakes, some pleople pay for their internet connections and don't want this rubbish

Subject: Re: Pentax price list - but what was the year?

2002-10-15 Thread Cotty
Have a look: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/misc/pricelist.html Hmm, it's a difficult one. I'll go for 1989; 1990 at a pinch. I chose 1989 because of the presence of the SuperA which according to Boz-s site was only manufactured 83-85 so it's got to be old (new) stock. The LX and K1000 don't

Re: Subject: Re: Primes that we wish Pentax had built

2002-10-14 Thread Robert Soames Wetmore
Yes, now THESE are some nice choices!!! Lens name: A*SMC 35/1.2 ED Lens name: A*SMC Pentax 1:1.4 20mm Lens name: A*SMC Pentax 200/2 ED Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print

Subject: Re: DSLRs and viruses

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
You in effect did when you wrote in an earlier post, I have writen my post just because you have exposed your lack of knowledge, writing that there are no Operating Systems in cameras. This would mean that it would be correct to say that there are operating systems in cameras, and since there is

Re: Subject: Re: DSLRs and viruses

2002-10-09 Thread Brad Dobo
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: Subject: Re: DSLRs and viruses You in effect did when you wrote in an earlier post, I have writen my post just because you have exposed your lack of knowledge, writing that there are no Operating Systems in cameras. This would mean

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2002-09-30 Thread Feroze Kistan
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:15:48 +0100 Frits J. Wüthrich wrote I sincerely believe this is a misconception (snip) That is not a misconception. Take for instance the light bulb that edison originally built. It still works and hasn't been to best of my knowledge switched off yet. How long does your

Subject: RE: OT: Another story about The Man (tm) coming down on photogs..

2002-09-26 Thread William Robb
From: Bill Peifer Ditto -- worries me too. I can't help but see the parallels between the current war on our collective civil rights here in the US, and the assault on the rights of American citizens of Japanese descent back in the early 40's. It's a damn shame, and I've had more than my

Subject: Re: Pentax prifit/loss

2002-09-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Before folks get creative about analyzing overall profit/loss numbers keep in mind that they are for the overall company and not the photographic division. This company had a loss - where? This company added staff - where? Doesn't say. One company that has remained positive over the past few

Re: Subject: Re: Pentax prifit/loss

2002-09-25 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: Before folks get creative about analyzing overall profit/loss numbers keep in mind that they are for the overall company and not the photographic division. This company had a loss - where? This company added staff - where? Doesn't say. One company that has remained positive over

Subject: RE: Pentax ever make a high quality PS??

2002-09-21 Thread Fred Widall
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Pentax ever make a high quality PS?? I have very little knowledge of the history of Pentax's PS cameras. Did they ever produce one with a single focal length SMC AF lens of very high quality ala a 35mm F2.8

Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-21 Thread GLewis4457
In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:42:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 03:52, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: The term was pro. 99% of postcard pictures are shot by hobbiests. Ah, but don't those hobbyists get

RE: Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-21 Thread Paris, Leonard
]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:42:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 03:52, Bruce Rubenstein

Subject: RE: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #3040

2002-08-20 Thread GLewis4457
In a message dated 8/20/2002 1:13:15 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: RE: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #3040 Its also measured by how easily breakable the product is - in particular the battery door!! As opposed to those metal ones that get lost or corrode

Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest

2002-08-20 Thread GLewis4457
In a message dated 8/20/2002 1:13:15 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #3040 Plastic is a very good description, because it is plastic. Look up the definition. The problem is that plastic covers alot of territory...all the way

Re[4]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-04 Thread Bob Walkden
that. Len --- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:41:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it has the motor

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-04 Thread Pentxuser
Here's a different comparison and one I think fits very nicely. A friend of mine is in love with Jaguars (that's the cars by the way.) He has a lovely E-type and a newer Vandenplass. These cars have always been known as more than a little unreliable. Just keeping the 12 cylinders tuned is a

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Pentxuser
Excellent points Pal. vic In a message dated 8/3/02 6:51:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul wrote: Early R series cameras can be very unrelibale, but the R7, R8, R6 and R6.2 are reliable and built like a tank. The R8 had plenty of problems that are probably solved by now. If I

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Alling
. Unfortunately the LX development was frozen around the E upgrade. At 11:42 PM 8/2/2002 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update I think you missed my point. William said that the use of mixed electronics and mechanicals

Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Raimo Korhonen
IMHO the plain ME is very reliable. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 03. elokuuta 2002 13:46 Aihe: Re: Subject

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Alling
. More a difference between a B53A and a B52G. Unfortunately the LX development was frozen around the E upgrade. At 11:42 PM 8/2/2002 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update I think you missed my point. William said

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Aug 2002 at 0:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had very few real problems with my LXs (four and counting) (I know, it's a sickness). One thing I notice on the PUG that I don't really agree with is the quick suggestion by everyone to have a CLA on an LX every time it acts up. I think

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Aug 2002 at 16:50, William Robb wrote: Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the camera (I am the guy who insisted on the LX Gallery, after all), but I am not going to kid myself thinking that it is more reliable than crack addict. You can kid yourself all you like. I had 2 P67 break, in

Re: Vs: Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bmacrae
In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:34:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That´s what I thought when Bessa R2 was introduced - but now I think that it has to be a model which does *not* accept Leica lenses Raimo, Look here: http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtBR2.htm The Bessa

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan
I think that the comparison to the F3 is a bit unfair by the way. It is much bigger, almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67. If you can't build in reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing something wrong. Perhaps you mixed up the F3 with F4 or F5. I don't see how the

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan
Doesn't this rather prove that you are using an unreliable repairing facility? In fact, I discussed this with the Pentax repair man a couple of months ago. I can't remember the details but he claimed that many LX bodies was not in fact repaired properly as some servicing people were not

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan
I had 2 P67 break, in both the meter aperture coupling chains failed, they are unreliable. I wonder if P67II was more reliable. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan
The trouble is that often the focus will be out slightly too and it gets worse progressively. And that means no more super sharp pictures. :( regards, Alan Chan _ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

Re: Vs: Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan
Look here: http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtBR2.htm The Bessa R2 does accept the M series Leica lenses. TEMPTING!! And unlike other Bessa, this one is metal. regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris
: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update I think that the comparison to the F3 is a bit unfair by the way. It is much bigger, almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67. If you can't build in reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing

Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Alan, No meter coupling chain anymore and the frame advance was reworked. I suspect the 67II is more reliable in those particular areas. Bruce Saturday, August 3, 2002, 2:18:59 PM, you wrote: I had 2 P67 break, in both the meter aperture coupling chains failed, they are unreliable. AC I

Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
The F3 is about 5oz heavier than the LX. They were both intended for the same use and market. Maybe Nikon has a better idea of what kind of reliability is expected of this class of camera. From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I think that the comparison to the F3 is a bit unfair

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris
That makes the F3 wth MD just a tad heavier than a Pentax 67II body only. Somehow I thought thhe F3 with drive would be a bit heavier than that. Len --- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Re[2

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: Subject: LX repair update Doesn't this rather prove that you are using an unreliable repairing facility? In fact, I discussed this with the Pentax repair man a couple of months ago. I can't remember the details but he claimed that many

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Alan Chan
I have found the LX's i've owned to be quite unreliable also and they seem to enjoy the company of my service tech, in fact my remaining was is there right now :). I found the MZ-S pretty unreliable also. Although my first MZ5n was super reliable never missed a beat and i gave it hell. (not the

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Bmacrae
Gee, I've never had a single problem with my LX. In fact, I've never had a serious problem with any Pentax camera I've owned. That's about 16 years worth of picture taking. Granted I'm not a pro and I don't use my gear on a daily basis but not a single camera body issue that required service

Re[3]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, well, to even up the score a bit I've had 3 LXs, 4 or 5 MXs and a Super A (Super Program), and they all had problems at some time in their careers. I bought my first LX specifically to replace an MX I had problems with. (Frying pan - fire). For Bill's benefit, I haven't had any problems

Re: Re[3]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Aug 2002 at 8:27, Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, well, to even up the score a bit I've had 3 LXs, 4 or 5 MXs and a Super A (Super Program), and they all had problems at some time in their careers. I bought my first LX specifically to replace an MX I had problems with. (Frying pan - fire).

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
I sometimes wonder if you guy's really have the same camera model I use. At 11:21 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote: I have found the LX's i've owned to be quite unreliable also and they seem to enjoy the company of my service tech, in fact my remaining was is there right now :). I found the MZ-S

Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Raimo Korhonen
] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 02. elokuuta 2002 2:35 Aihe: Re: Subject: LX repair update - Original Message - From: Matjaz Osojnik Subject: RE: Subject: LX repair update I wonder why you have choosen Nikon, then? Right now, I am wondering why I chose Pentax

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: I am toying with the idea of selling it all and starting again with a Leica system. You don't buy Leica to get a maintanance free camera system! Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: Perhaps Pentax tried too hard on LX and MZ-S? The LX was sucessful from an engineering point of view; in fact; it's their proudest achievement. The MZ-S, however, suffers from being a rush job. They needed to get the digital version ready and to do that they had to postpone

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: You're not alone. I have resisted buying one for quite some time based largely on how much I read about it's problems. You don't hear nearly as much about problems with MX's or SuperPrograms, etc. Thats because people don't bother repairing ME's and Super Programs. The Pentax

Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pål, You bring up some excellent points that are worthy of consideration. The age of the LX bodies perhaps is the primary cause for problems. The one fact remains that they are all OLD cameras and will continue to have old camera problems. Perhaps far less than some other old cameras, but

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2002-08-02 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Interesting. I also do Lotus Domino for a living (at this moment). Good to see that one company is using it here! Collin The site www.pentax.com is running Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4/Windows 98 The site www.olympus.com is running Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4/Windows 98 The site www.zeiss.com is

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
I'm not sure that camera companies want their high-end cameras to fail so that users will buy new ones. I'm not even sure that they make much money from their high-end bodies anyway. I suspect that they hope to make money from lenses and accessories and have those expensive bodies contribute

Vs: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Raimo Korhonen
/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 02. elokuuta 2002 20:05 Aihe: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update I'm not sure that camera companies want their high-end cameras to fail so that users

Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Raimo Korhonen
PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 02. elokuuta 2002 18:38 Aihe: RE: Subject: LX repair update Didn't mean to diminish Leica's ruggedness, but i've heard horror stories about *brand new* M6's that were faulty. Shouldn't happen with a camera that's $1,900 (KEH

Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Raimo Korhonen
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 02. elokuuta 2002 18:59 Aihe: Re: Subject: LX repair update Alan wrote: Perhaps Pentax tried too hard on LX and MZ-S? The LX was sucessful from an engineering point of view; in fact; it's their proudest achievement. The MZ-S, however, suffers from being a rush job

Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
People can't see electrons so they equate it with magic pixie dust. No one in their right mind trusts magic dust. From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope - electronics are more reliable. The current electronic consumer grade SLRs are incredibly reliable - there was a test in Chasseurs

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Paul Jones
You don't buy Leica to get a maintanance free camera system! Pål Early R series cameras can be very unrelibale, but the R7, R8, R6 and R6.2 are reliable and built like a tank. The R6 and 6.2 are also quite small, whilst still maintaing a build quality that i have never seen another SLR to

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: What is weird is your insistence that because you happen to have a sample that held up, that is the norm, and all evidence to the contrary is dismissed as bad luck. Thats not what I'm insisting on. The LX does indeed have a track record and mine happen to be more

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Alan Chan
You bring up some excellent points that are worthy of consideration. The age of the LX bodies perhaps is the primary cause for problems. The one fact remains that they are all OLD cameras and will continue to have old camera problems. Perhaps far less than some other old cameras, but problems

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Alan Chan
You're not alone. I have resisted buying one for quite some time based largely on how much I read about it's problems. You don't hear nearly as much about problems with MX's or SuperPrograms, etc. Few years back I read from a UK magazine. The UK representive said, The Super A was a very

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Alan Chan
I would have to disagree based on my experience, but I can't argue with your's. Additionally if mixing mechanical, (for manual exposure), and electronic, (for automatic exposure), shutter speeds was such a bad idea then the new Nikon FM3 wouldn't exist. Just because the LX was not as

Re: Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Alan Chan
Pentax and Leica RF systems complement each other well. If I was buying now I´d get Voigtländer Bessa R instead - for much less money. No no no! You definitely want the Bessa R2. regards, Alan Chan _ Chat with friends online,

Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
I think you missed my point. William said that the use of mixed electronics and mechanicals in the shutter mechanism was a hodgepodge, and one of the reasons for the LX's supposed un-reliability. I pointed out that Nikon would probably not have used a similar setup if that was true. (I kind

Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update I think you missed my point. William said that the use of mixed electronics and mechanicals in the shutter mechanism was a hodgepodge, and one of the reasons for the LX's supposed un-reliability

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) Subject: RE: Subject: LX repair update Bill, this is where I really sympathize with you. You have to put up with enough crap shooting with Pentax, and then they wind up sticking it to you too. After a certain point you've had

Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Matjaz Osojnik Subject: RE: Subject: LX repair update I wonder why you have choosen Nikon, then? Right now, I am wondering why I chose Pentax over Nikon. I am toying with the idea of selling it all and starting again with a Leica system. William Robb

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