On 08/04/2014, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
That does bring up some interesting questions:
1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux?
Linux users are lucky like that.
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On 4/9/2014 6:23 PM, mike wilson wrote:
On 08/04/2014, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
That does bring up some interesting questions:
1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux?
Linux users are lucky like that.
Linux users generally want free software, OK so
Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
On 4/9/2014 6:23 PM, mike wilson wrote:
On 08/04/2014, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
That does bring up some interesting questions:
1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux?
Linux users are lucky like
Not to prosyletise too much; you really should try Ubuntu. Download
the installation iso from Ubuntu.com and try it running from a disk
before you install. Unless there are specific Windows-only apps that
you need, just about everything you want can be run as an equivalent.
Firefox and T'bird
Agree Linux Ubuntu is the way to to go to wipe off XP on your old PC and
feel comfortable about these XP hazards. However I soon got tired of the
interface of Ubuntu and switched now to the light-weight Ubuntu version
Lubuntu on both an old desktop and a laptop. LibreOffice and all of the
Quoting Henk Terhell hterh...@chello.nl:
Agree Linux Ubuntu is the way to to go to wipe off XP on your old PC
and feel comfortable about these XP hazards. However I soon got
tired of the interface of Ubuntu and switched now to the
light-weight Ubuntu version Lubuntu on both an old desktop
For me Vista was quite OK until it got slow and finally crashed. Win 8
is also not bad but I got the classic desktop with the $ 5 Start8
utility (so at least I know how to switch off the PC).
Win 8 (on an i7 processor with NVDIA GT-640 graphic card) handles
Lightroom well. I think the file
That is exactly what I did with my only XP machine. I originally
installed Ubuntu and then switched over to the LXDE desktop. Now it says
Lubuntu when it is booting. VueScan works just like it does on XP (which
it should) - I scanned eight 35mm rolls via VueScan and the LS8000 under
Lubuntu
I'm not a techie but I doubt your computer will turn into a pumpkin at
midnight. But you might want to pick up a pie crust just in case
From what I read it looks like WinXP will simply start to become more
and more insecure as new vulnerabilities are found and not patched. And
there might
I suppose Ubuntu is fun if you’re a techy and like to play with computers. But
if you’re a photographer, an operating system that won’t run the best image
processing software sucks dead dog dick.
Paul
On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:31 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Not to prosyletise
to pass up.
Gerrit
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Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze
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Subject: Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing
Just to add my 2¢: Windows XP is an incredibly old operating system by
today's standards. Yeah, Vista and Windows 8 were/are pretty awful,
but Windows 7 is great. You really don't need to fear upgrading to 7,
especially since you can install the XP virtual
This machine is on at least it's 3rd motherboard. I think the latest
mother board is from 2007.
I'm not sure how old it actually is, but at least some of the parts date
back into the 20th century. It's still got the certificate of
authenticity sticker for a Windoze98 Second Edition Upgrade on
Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
I searched my C: drive and found a file called firewall.cpl in the i386
folder.
Is that telling me I have a hardware firewall?
No. A hardware firewall is a box in between your computer and your
cable/DSL modem. Typically it's a router.
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to pass up.
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Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack
That does bring up some interesting questions:
1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux?
2. IIRC, there used to be a windoze emulator for Linux called WINE that
was good enough that some earlier versions would run on it. Whatever
happened to that?
3. Mac OS is based
I can't say re Adobe but I used a thumbnail program called ThumbsPlus
and checked on a Linux version of that program. From their FAQ:
...snip... One thing that is bothersome about a Linux port is that so
many of the Linux users who have written have exclaimed how wonderful it
is to have a
DarkTable? http://www.darktable.org/
On 4/8/2014 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
PS: I'm pretty sure there's a Lightroom clone for Linux - can't remember
the name of it off the top of my head right now - that works a bit
better than Gimp does as a Photoshop clone.
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On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:51 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
That does bring up some interesting questions:
1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux?
Too much development cost, not enough return on investment. Linux users hate to
pay for anything.
3. Mac
- the XP doomsday thing
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way, B
S. Given one has one's own virus protection
So therefore it is a physical thingy I need to buy I gather.
I may get some neighborly help soon - fingers crossed
ann
On 4/8/2014 12:18, Mark Roberts wrote:
Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
I searched my C: drive and found a file called firewall.cpl in the i386
folder.
Is that
On 08/04/2014 11:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
So therefore it is a physical thingy I need to buy I gather.
I may get some neighborly help soon - fingers crossed
A hardware firewall (router), resist the temptation to go wireless if
you can, turn off the wireless radio on the router, and tell
Gosh, there are a bunch of paranoid folks on this mailing list.
G
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It's important to keep the cosmic paranoia/smugness ying-yang tiddly-i-po thing
in balance. For every Mac user you need 1024 windows users or the entire
universe will go out of whack. It's a bit like Buddhists spinning a prayer
wheel to keep the earth turning.
B
On 8 Apr 2014, at 19:07,
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:25:29PM -0700, John Celio wrote:
Just to add my 2?: Windows XP is an incredibly old operating system by
today's standards. Yeah, Vista and Windows 8 were/are pretty awful,
but Windows 7 is great. You really don't need to fear upgrading to 7,
especially since you can
DOn't worry I will NEVER go wireless
thanks for the other info
a
On 4/8/2014 14:01, Bill wrote:
On 08/04/2014 11:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
So therefore it is a physical thingy I need to buy I gather.
I may get some neighborly help soon - fingers crossed
A hardware firewall (router),
On 4/8/2014 14:23, John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:25:29PM -0700, John Celio wrote:
Windows XP mode only works on the Professional, Enterprise Ultimate
versions of Windows 7 - it does not work on the (cheaper) Home version.
This means anyone wanting to go that
Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
It's important to keep the cosmic paranoia/smugness ying-yang tiddly-i-po
thing in balance.
Truer words were never spoken.
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I wouldn't worry too much Ann. I used Win2K, (not to be confused with
WinME), for a number of years after Microsoft dropped support. It did
everything I needed it to, and only upgraded to XP when I couldn't hack
the OS to get a new printer to work properly, (I was able to find
adequate AV
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Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way, B
S. Given
on 2014-04-07 20:52 John Coyle wrote
I still have one PC running XP (SP3) and have it behind a router firewall and
anti-virus protection.
Only need it to maintain absolute compatibility with some older systems I've
written, where clients
are still running them, so I won't upgrade it unless it
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Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting
There could have been significant disruptions due to the Y2K problem,
but it was very over hyped, I doubt that planes would have fallen out of
the sky, and a lot of work went into making sure that those disruptions
didn't happen, a lot of busy work was done that wasn't strictly
necessary at
On 8 Apr 2014, at 20:46, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
There could have been significant disruptions due to the Y2K problem, but it
was very over hyped, I doubt that planes would have fallen out of the sky,
and a lot of work went into making sure that those disruptions
On 4/8/2014 1:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:51 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:
PS: I'm pretty sure there's a Lightroom clone for Linux - can't
remember the name of it off the top of my head right now - that
works a bit better than Gimp does as a Photoshop
On 4/8/2014 2:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Gosh, there are a bunch of paranoid folks on this mailing list.
G
It's not paranoia if they REALLY ARE out to get you.
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Wireless is pretty safe as long as it’s password protected and you use a
password that is complex and differs from your other passwords. Been wireless
for many years, no problems.
Paul
On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
DOn't worry I will NEVER go wireless
on 2014-04-08 11:22 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
OS X is built around a Mach kernel and includes a FreeBSD UNIX command-line
environment. Linux is built around a different kernel implementation,
UNIX-like, and similarly includes a FreeBSD-like command-line environment.
There the similarity ends.
I do remember a few stories from after the fact where there were billing
errors due to the date not rolling over correctly. Mostly (99 and
44/100%) it got fixed in time and the few instances where it did slip
through were easily quickly corrected after the fact.
On 4/8/2014 3:45 PM, P.J. Alling
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That does bring up some interesting questions:
1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux?
2. IIRC, there used to be a windoze emulator for Linux called
Quoting John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
That does bring up some interesting questions:
2. IIRC, there used to be a windoze emulator for Linux called WINE that
was good enough that some earlier versions would run on it. Whatever
happened to that?
It's still around and still being
On 07/04/2014 5:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S. Given one has one's own virus
update to win7, its pretty painless and win7 works pretty well.
On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S. Given one has one's own virus protection and spam-blocker,
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Subject: Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
I still have one PC running XP (SP3) and have it behind a router firewall and
anti-virus protection.
Only need it to maintain absolute compatibility with some older systems I've
written, where clients
are still running them, so I won't upgrade it unless it fails (which is more
likely to happen
On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S. Given one has one's own virus
On 4/7/2014 7:19 PM, Bill wrote:
On 07/04/2014 5:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated, or to put it another way,
B S.
, April 7, 2014 8:10 PM
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Subject: Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting hacked to death at
the stroke of midnight is a bit overstated
The hardware I'm running XP on might just barely meet the minimums for
Win7, but it wouldn't run worth a damn.
On 4/7/2014 7:32 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
update to win7, its pretty painless and win7 works pretty well.
On 4/7/2014 7:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from
I have Trend Micro due to renew in about 50 days..
Pretty sure I am connected through a hardware firewall.
ann
On 4/7/2014 20:10, Mark Roberts wrote:
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a feeling the threats from Windoze that their lack of support
will result in all of us die-hard Xp users getting
I should have said update your hardware and OS to win7
On 4/7/2014 11:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
The hardware I'm running XP on might just barely meet the minimums for
Win7, but it wouldn't run worth a damn.
On 4/7/2014 7:32 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
update to win7, its pretty painless and
I just don't see why I should have to do that at all .. and I haven't
got any money to do it with anyway.
What MARk said about the firewall - I'll check, but I'm pretty sure that
is what I have..
ann
On 4/7/2014 23:27, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
I should have said update your hardware and OS to
FWIW, early 2013 I picked up a brand new HP desktop less a monitor for
$400 with decent specs and win7 pre installed.
my old machine with XP was about 6 years old and kicked the bucket ( bad
motherboard ).
On 4/7/2014 11:27 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
I should have said update your hardware
Just to add my 2¢: Windows XP is an incredibly old operating system by
today's standards. Yeah, Vista and Windows 8 were/are pretty awful,
but Windows 7 is great. You really don't need to fear upgrading to 7,
especially since you can install the XP virtual machine and run all
the old software you
Yes, John, I totally agree. I upgraded some time ago have not looked back.
Perhaps MS should offer free upgrades?
Alan C
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Just to add my 2¢: Windows XP
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