Excellent collection of images.
On 3/4/2016 8:51 PM, jtainter wrote:
In late January I had 2-1/2 days to see Angkor Wat and other temples nearby. I
was particularly taken with Ta Proem, which fits the romantic vision of a
tropical ruin--draped in vegetation. Here is a set of photos.
http
feet tall. In the others there are low
doors, maybe 4-1/2 feet.
I forgot to mention that some scenes from the film "Lara Croft: Tomb Raider"
were filmed at Ta Proem. But don't see the film for that reason. It is dreadful.
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of scale. E.g. I can’t tell if those are very short doorways or a
very large building…
stan
> On Mar 4, 2016, at 8:51 PM, jtainter <jtain...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> In late January I had 2-1/2 days to see Angkor Wat and other temples nearby.
> I was particularly taken with Ta
All beautifully shot and composed!
J
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> On Mar 4, 2016, at 5:51 PM, jtainter <jtain...@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> In late January I had 2-1/2 days to see Angkor Wat and other temples nearby.
> I was particularly taken with Ta Proem, which fits t
les nearby.
> I was particularly taken with Ta Proem, which fits the romantic vision of a
> tropical ruin--draped in vegetation. Here is a set of photos.
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57387312
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In late January I had 2-1/2 days to see Angkor Wat and other temples nearby. I
was particularly taken with Ta Proem, which fits the romantic vision of a
tropical ruin--draped in vegetation. Here is a set of photos.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57387312
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On 29/11/2013 10:01 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
I have no idea which gender I'd shoot as a nude. I don't have the
skills to do the job well--I'd probably blunder about in all the
cliches.
That really is the learning process. We pretty much all start out
shooting porn. Some mature past it,
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29/11/2013 10:01 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
I have no idea which gender I'd shoot as a nude. I don't have the
skills to do the job well--I'd probably blunder about in all the
cliches.
That really is the learning
If it's something you want to do, you can do it. You just have to
persevere repeat it until you finally get it right. It's only beyond
your capability until you figure out how to get the image you want.
On 11/29/2013 11:05 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
That is beautiful, Godfrey! Thanks for
On 11/30/2013 10:03 AM, Bill wrote:
On 29/11/2013 10:01 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
I have no idea which gender I'd shoot as a nude. I don't have the
skills to do the job well--I'd probably blunder about in all the
cliches.
That really is the learning process. We pretty much all start out
Here is a startling nude image.
It is not what it at first appears to be, but may still be NSFW:
http://mlkshk.com/r/VSKD
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
Right.
Which is why I've said from
I love it!
It made me laugh out loud.
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 04:05:05PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Here is a startling nude image.
It is not what it at first appears to be, but may still be NSFW:
http://mlkshk.com/r/VSKD
Dan Matyola
That's a whole separate category: humorous nude photography.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I love it!
It made me laugh out loud.
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 04:05:05PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 07:11:48PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
That's a whole separate category: humorous nude photography.
I specialize in humorous nudes. Unfortunately, as a model.
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That is beautiful, Godfrey! Thanks for sharing! I once flirted with idea of
photographing athletes in action with lighting similar to the lighting in the
photo below—lighting which would highlight the exertion of the muscles of the
body in play—say a basketball player striving for a slam dunk
One of the things that truly entrances me about this photo is the exquisite
balance of light and shadow, detail and softness, and the beautiful look of the
grain—how it all, together, contributes to the whole of the figure and setting.
Truly a wonderful piece. I look at it often as I consider
On Nov 25, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it
wrote:
So of the PDML gals...
Let's put it this way:
Girl, if one day you'll agree to take pictures of a naked human being and
want to do a great picture (hence not just the one most appealing to you for
genre
Thanks Christine. Of course, I already had my answer to that question, but I
liked the idea of having a female opinion on the topic.
Dario
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From: Christine Aguila
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 5:01 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: TA
On Nov 25
As many have mentioned, this is one of the most interesting threads for
a while and I'm glad Frank brought it up.
My initial reaction was, photography is inherently sexual when pointed
at people. How can it not be when it is a single image focused on a
subject. It wants me to look and I
Guys are the only ones who objectify women:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgOcgdX1H1Ifeature=youtu.be
Bless 'em.
On 28 November 2013 19:22, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
As many have mentioned, this is one of the most interesting threads for a
while and I'm glad Frank brought it
I need bleach for my eyes!
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
Guys are the only ones who objectify women:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgOcgdX1H1Ifeature=youtu.be
Bless 'em.
On 28
I'm really not sure what your point is...
Cheers,
frank
David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
Guys are the only ones who objectify women:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgOcgdX1H1Ifeature=youtu.be
Bless 'em.
On 28 November 2013 19:22, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
As many have
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:45:40PM -0500, knarf wrote:
I'm really not sure what your point is...
Since when does Savage need a point?
Although in response to his words, of everyone I've known, the
person who was most accomplished at objectifying women was a
lesbian housemate of mine many years
I don't have a problem with objectification. It's kind of what we do.
My biggest problem is the huge disparity between male and female nude models
and the way that females are sexualized in photography (and other media) that
men quite frankly are not.
One argument that I've seen repeatedly in
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 04:00:17PM -0500, knarf wrote:
I for one, plan on shooting male nudes. If for no other reason than to see if
I can. I think that the male body is just as beautiful (in a different way)
as a female one. I want to see if I can make it work. And who knows, if that
On 28/11/2013 10:23 AM, David Savage wrote:
Guys are the only ones who objectify women:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgOcgdX1H1Ifeature=youtu.be
Bless 'em.
Well, that was rather hypnotic.
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On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:45:40PM -0500, knarf wrote:
I'm really not sure what your point is...
I think he means that also women know well how to objectify themselves.
And that's not necessarily a bad thing in itself.
After all, we are here because women are our object of desire.
Dario
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 08:08:17AM +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:45:40PM -0500, knarf wrote:
I'm really not sure what your point is...
I think he means that also women know well how to objectify themselves.
And that's not necessarily a bad thing in itself. After all,
This could be a sensible contribution to the debate.
How to shoot the naked body (male and female, especially the latter) with
great taste and creativity.
I'd say, look at nature and add your touch:
http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/man_and_woman.html
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Very sensible contribution. I enjoyed his work, Dario.
But I must admit to a strong feeling of unease at his series of nude
self-portraits with female models. He's walking a very thin tightrope
there, arguably one (mis-)step removed from Terry Richardson.
I do now fully understand how the
-minkkinen.com/trees_and_forests.html
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Bruce Walker
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: TA
Very sensible contribution. I enjoyed his work, Dario.
But I must admit to a strong feeling of unease at his series
:09 PM
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Subject: Re: TA
Very sensible contribution. I enjoyed his work, Dario.
But I must admit to a strong feeling of unease at his series of nude
self-portraits with female models. He's walking a very thin tightrope
there, arguably one (mis-)step removed from
Even The Grey Lady (New York Times) is getting into the TA business:
http://www.nytimes.com/images/2013/11/27/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
This could
Having followed Minkkinen for ages I would never accuse him of anything like
that, but of course, there are always those who would.
Involving others is a fairly new thing for him, an extention og the self
portraits he has been doing all the time. I think the models understand that,
and you
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:37:18PM +0100, DagT wrote:
Also I don?t agree that men are looking at women as objects when they take
nude photos. We may be programmed to this but I think most men look at women
with fascination. Not necessarily sexual, but graceful, beautiful or lots of
other
27. nov. 2013 kl. 19:40 skrev John Francis jo...@panix.com:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:37:18PM +0100, DagT wrote:
Also I don?t agree that men are looking at women as objects when they take
nude photos. We may be programmed to this but I think most men look at women
with fascination. Not
one of the most beautiful figure studies i've seen:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/Solitataire-3910.jpg
Solitaire by Naomi Stanley.
I have a print of this photo that I bought sometime in the late 1980s.
Is it Not Safe For Work? I dunno. I've used this snapshot of the print as a
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:00 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
I have done nude photography five times (I think), and once with a male
model. Trying to work with a male model was interesting, but frustrating as I
had a hard time finding the lines and shapes interesting enough to
You could say there's an imbalance there -- too many cats and
women, not enough grunting jocks
YO - MARK!
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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Subject: Re: TA
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:00 PM
On 26 Nov 2013, at 05:43, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Mature male bodies simply aren't as attractive as female bodies. Art
history weighs heavily in favor of the female form.
Michelangelo, among others, would disagree. G
Leonardo said, and I agree with him, that
You just can't tear your eyes away, can you?
Next time Godders is over hear we should go back to Camden Lock and recreate
it. Not nude, obviously, that would just frighten people. I mean wearing
mankinis.
B
On 26 Nov 2013, at 04:51, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
Funny! I
Ah! I think I understand what you are really having an issue with in
these shots, Larry: it's that the photographer is objectifying the
motorcycle.
He is depicting the Ducati as primarily a sexy posing support for the
pretty model and taking away from its other use as a way to get from
point A to
On 11/25/2013 3:35 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 25/11/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're different.
Walt, I love you man.
The feeling is mutual, Cotty!
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're
different.
...and why do you think they're
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Bob W wrote:
That's the way equality is. It's not a question of 'us' 'giving'
exposure to anyone. Every adult is free to do whatever they damn well
like providing they don't infringe the same rights of others. Doesn't
matter what their bits are like - you don't have to
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Bob W wrote:
That's the way equality is. It's not a question of 'us' 'giving'
exposure to anyone. Every adult is free to do whatever they damn well
like providing they don't infringe the same rights of
On 11/26/2013 8:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Do you think that anyone was upset by the subject? I don't.
I haven't seen any evidence of it, either.
Though, I suspect the not-so-subtle insinuation that to disagree is to
reveal oneself as an uneducated buffoon could very well change that.
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
I do agree with the people who say that any changes in the PDML should
come from individuals, but if you're upset that Frank brought up the
subject in the first place, you need to
Out of context is right. Trying to stir things up a bit, eh?
Paul via phone
On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
I do agree with the people who say that
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 08:02:48AM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
Ah! I think I understand what you are really having an issue with in
these shots, Larry: it's that the photographer is objectifying the
motorcycle.
Exactly. It's terrible when they dehumanize fine motorcycles like that.
:-)
More
On 26 Nov 2013, at 13:36, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/25/2013 3:35 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 25/11/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're different.
On 26 Nov 2013, at 14:05, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Bob W wrote:
That's the way equality is. It's not a question of 'us' 'giving'
exposure to anyone. Every adult is free to do whatever they damn well
like providing they don't infringe the same rights of
If people wanted more male nude photos then they would happen. We may have
biased attitudes but for matters of taste like photography , unlike legal
rights, this has to change slowly. A picture of a naked person will elicit a
sexual response, positive or negative, from most people. I don't
Right.
Which is why I've said from the beginning that I am not trying to tell anyone
what or who they should photograph or even what they should post.
I guess I was trying to point out the obvious imbalance along with what that
might mean. I don't advocate quotas or censorship or anything of
I certainly hope you don't think I said (or even thought) that, Walt.
Cheers,
frank
Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't seen any evidence of it, either.
Though, I suspect the not-so-subtle insinuation that to disagree is to
reveal oneself as an uneducated buffoon could very well change
Of course not, Frank. I can't imagine anything like that ever crossing
your mind.
I was referring to Aahz's admonition to those who are supposedly upset
by your post to educate themselves.
He's since clarified himself, acknowledging that upset might not have
been the best choice of words --
On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course not, Frank. I can't imagine anything like that ever crossing your
mind.
I was referring to Aahz's admonition to those who are supposedly upset by
your post to educate themselves.
He's since clarified himself,
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
Giving up naked ladies ain't easy.
MARK!
... of the sitting-duck variety.
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On 26/11/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed:
I don't want a Morality Police (whether Christian, Islamic or otherwise)
to dictate what we can do here.
Skofteland is around?
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I'm weighing in on this one quite late, but here goes.
Bruce was mentioned in the OP, so I just want to say that frankly (no
pun intended) his recent nude work is less sexual than the
clothed/implied nude stuff that I've been doing recently. Nudity
doesn't always equate to sex.
As to the
Larry,
This one's for you:
http://bit.ly/1fHdw5e
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On 26 November 2013 14:02, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 08:02:48AM -0500,
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 06:55:24PM -0500, Miserere wrote:
Larry,
This one's for you:
http://bit.ly/1fHdw5e
He missed my beard.
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Or, invite me over. I'll take pictures.
I'm secure enough with my heterosexuality to take pix of nekkid guys.
Cheers,
frank
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On 26 Nov 2013, at 13:36, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/25/2013 3:35 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 25/11/13, Walt,
I'm sure the experience would remove any lingering doubts, in any event.
-- Walt
On 11/26/2013 7:24 PM, knarf wrote:
Or, invite me over. I'll take pictures.
I'm secure enough with my heterosexuality to take pix of nekkid guys.
Cheers,
frank
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
On 26 Nov
On 11/25/2013 2:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're
different.
...and why do you think they're different?
Vive la différence!
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On 11/25/2013 5:04 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 25/11/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
How this balance be achieved? Surely we can't ask people who have no
interest in a particular kind of photography (male nudes) to take up
that kind of photography?
Selfies!
NOT ON YOUR
I don't photograph nudes.
Long ago I looked into a mirror and asked myself how *I* would react if
I were an attractive woman and someone who looked like me asked me to
pose in the nude. An honest answer included lots of screaming, pepper
spray restraining orders, so I decided to pursue other
On 24/11/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed:
there has never been a male nude shown here (that I've seen in some
thirteen years). I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here.
Yeah but there's been a few dicks in the past.
One thought nobody's mentioned: what about the models in nude
On 25 Nov 2013, at 03:10, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Paul via phone
On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:04 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
We disagree on many issues, Paul. But you're always a gentleman. And a
friend.
Wrong.
But a friend.
That's all I aspire to.
On 25/11/2013 2:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 24/11/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed:
there has never been a male nude shown here (that I've seen in some
thirteen years). I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here.
Yeah but there's been a few dicks in the past.
One thought nobody's
TA = Tonsillectomy with adenoidectomy. I have no idea why we're discussing it
on PDML.
(should I get out more?)
Rick
On Nov 24, 2013, at 23:47 , Boris Liberman wrote:
Or, and I totally forgot to ask you - what TA means?
Boris
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you indulgence.
Or, and I totally forgot to ask you - what TA means?
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There's also the not-so-minor consideration of the fact that, at least
in my limited experience (albeit, all non-nude), women seem to be much
more apt to agree to be photographed.
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's
I think Paul had a point though. If YOU think it's a problem, YOU are
the one who should do something about supplying a solution.
On 11/25/2013 12:32 AM, knarf wrote:
I don't have a hang up on nudity at all. I'm not offended by seeing
naked bodies, either male or female.
I also disagree with
I had a little old lady bring in one of those disposable cameras when I
was running the photo-lab. It was all male nudes.
She told me she was a painter had just come back from a trip to
Europe. I guess it was an opportunity to find models she couldn't find
locally (Raleigh not being as
I'm pretty sure I remember someone posting uncensored photos of
Michaelangelo's David from a trip to Europe. I know it's not the same as
male live models, but you gotta' go with what you got.
On 11/25/2013 3:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 24/11/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed:
there
Because they're different.
That could be an excuse for all manner of discriminatory practices...
Cheers,
frank
Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
There's also the not-so-minor consideration of the fact that, at least
in my limited experience (albeit, all non-nude), women seem to be much
more apt
Maybe I will...
However, in the meanwhile my solution is to not comment on female nudes until a
more equitable ratio of female to male nudes is presented.
As I said earlier, last thing I would do is tell anyone what they should or
shouldn't photograph.
Cheers,
frank
John
Discriminatory practices aren't necessarily bad things, and I wouldn't
want to live in a world in which no one discriminates.
-- Walt
On 11/25/2013 12:26 PM, knarf wrote:
Because they're different.
That could be an excuse for all manner of discriminatory practices...
Cheers,
frank
Walt
First of all I have to thank Boris and Larry for clarifying the
subject line. Frank please don't abbreviate when talking about male
nudes, it doesn't do the subject justice g
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:14 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
The catalyst for this little missive, I must
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:14 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here.
Nor have you ever seen a vagina here. At least not that I can recall. i don't
think we need to see either organ.
Paul
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're
different.
...and why do you think they're different?
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On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're
different.
...and why do you think they're different?
Because they're so easily
On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're
different.
...and why do
There are several reasons. First of all there it's sociological conditioning.
Then there is the case that the mix of emotion affecting hormones trends to
skew differently in men than in women, otherwise folks who are transitioning
wouldn't need to take hormones for their target gender.
While it
Not really, equality of opportunity is not equity of outcome.
I don't think that anyone here is turning models down because of their plumbing
or sexual identity.
Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM,
Frank,
If you want me to read this without giggling you have to get rid of the sig.
And, to be serious, you can objectify people without having them
remove their clothes. I find the objectification of non-nude people
(starving hordes, minorities, fat, thin, old, etc.) to be much more
offensive
On 25 Nov 2013, at 13:45, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
TA = Tonsillectomy with adenoidectomy. I have no idea why we're discussing
it on PDML.
(should I get out more?)
Rick
Dunno, sounds deep and throaty enough already to me.
B
On Nov 24, 2013, at 23:47 , Boris Liberman
On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:14 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here.
Nor have you ever seen a vagina here. At least not that I can recall. i don't
think we need to see
On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:35, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as
On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:35, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote:
The question
And I'll say it again:
I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance.
I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only naked women appear
here. It just doesn't seem fair, dammit!
Cheers,
frank
Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:02
On 25/11/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:
The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated
differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're different.
Walt, I love you man.
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Cheers,
Cotty
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On 25/11/13, Attila Boros, discombobulated, unleashed:
That's where I disagree. That photo would accentuate the sexual
aspects of their personality without telling much about the other
aspects. But isn't that the point of the genre? It wouldn't take away
anything. I don't expect to see a photo of
knarf wrote:
And I'll say it again:
I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance.
I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only naked women appear
here. It just doesn't seem fair, dammit!
How this balance be achieved? Surely we can't ask people who have no
On 25/11/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
How this balance be achieved? Surely we can't ask people who have no
interest in a particular kind of photography (male nudes) to take up
that kind of photography?
Selfies!
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Cheers,
Cotty
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
knarf wrote:
And I'll say it again:
I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance.
I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only
naked women appear here. It just doesn't seem fair,
25. nov. 2013 kl. 22:54 skrev Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:
knarf wrote:
And I'll say it again:
I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance.
I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only naked women appear
here. It just doesn't seem fair,
DagT wrote:
So men will prefer to take pictures of women. Maybe the women should get
better at photographing men, but of course we are not as interesting...
My reply:
This thread shines for the missing contribution of the PDML gals...
Let's put it this way:
Girl, if one day you'll agree to
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT
25. nov. 2013 kl. 22:54 skrev Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com:
knarf wrote:
And I'll say it again:
I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit
of balance.
I'm not
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