Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Re: FYI:Human brain singularity hypothesis

Completely agree about this John. Just in case anyone is interested MIT’s Dept of Brain and Cognitive Sciences is sponsoring a conference about my work that touches on these and many related issues of interest inlinguistics and cog sci. Everett Festschrfit 2023tedlab.mit.eduDanOn May 14, 2023, at 1

Re: [PEIRCE-L] nonlinear semiotics

Yes this is a well-known issue. Thus in principle there can be no first human, except as a theoretical decision. I discuss this briefly in How Language Began and my lengthy discussions of hominin evolution. DanOn May 14, 2023, at 13:18, John F Sowa wrote:Dan, Gary F, et al.,There was a discussion

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peircean Linguistics

 Congrats Michael. > On Apr 22, 2023, at 09:42, Shapiro, Michael wrote: >  > In case anyone wants to ascertain the way in which CSP has influenced > contemporary linguistics, here is a complete list of my publications that > reflect a Peircean approach: > > "Semeiotic Neostructuralism" > Pu

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

i have read all of shapiro’s work. my forthcoming book on peirce and the phil of linguistics goes into a lot of detail on this stuff and takes a difgerent perspective. My Princeton UP bio of peirce (2025) will go into this as well but not in quite as much detail. DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 16:34, Gary

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

://rd.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-030-44982-7_25-1 instead.Thanks,JonOn Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 10:36 AM Daniel L Everett <danleveret...@gmail.com> wrote:Perhaps it is my iphone but I did not have any luck with those links Jon. DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 09:49, Jon Alan Schmidt <jo

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

Perhaps it is my iphone but I did not have any luck with those links Jon. DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 09:49, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:Martin, List:Indeed, I have argued in publications about structural engineering (https://www.structuremag.org/?p=10373) and cognitive mathematics (https://doi.org/10.1007

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

John In my new ms submitted to OUP (Charles Peirce and the Philosophy of Linguistics) and in several recent talks I argue for the superiority of Peircean inferentialism over Fregean compositionality, titling one chapter Frege’s Error. This goes against many decades of work in linguistics (and o

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

RichmondOn Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:09 PM Mary Libertin <mary.liber...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks for the presentations today.  They were well-coordinated; the connections among them were and are rich and intriguing. I look forward to further discussion. Thanks for providing slides, Jon. Mary Libertin

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

Yes, thanks very much. Very helpful. Dan EverettOn Apr 15, 2023, at 19:56, Margaretha Hendrickx wrote:Thanks for your presentation.  It was very helpful (for me).On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 5:35 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:List:Gary R., Gary F., and I are grateful to those of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Double Cut Rule as Iteration/Deiteration

The forthcoming volume is mentioned on the site. Also here: https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Logic-of-the-Future-Volume-31-Pragmatism-and-Correspondence-by-Charles-S-Peirce-author-Ahti-Veikko-Pietarinen-editor/9783110649451DanOn Mar 29, 2023, at 06:16, g...@gnusystems.ca wrote:Jon, thanks

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Double Cut Rule as Iteration/Deiteration

Thanks Jon. Great stuff. Looking forward to v 3. DanOn Mar 27, 2023, at 22:03, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:List:When explaining his system of Existential Graphs (EG), Peirce typically identifies five standard transformation rules--erasure, insertion, iteration, deiteration, and double cut. Sometimes h

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Hierarchy, a la Peirce

I was pleased to see, Mike, your discussion of Herb Simon’s “Architecture of Complexity” article. That vital work is often overlooked, certainly it is overlooked by Chomsky who argues that hierarchy in language derives from repeated applications of the operation Merge and has little/nothing to d

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Semantic Externalism

s > the quality of personal experience in them.❞ > > 🙞 Robert Musil • The Man Without Qualities > https://oeis.org/wiki/Differential_Logic_and_Dynamic_Systems_%E2%80%A2_Part_4#Digression_:_Reflection_on_Use_and_Mention > > Regards, > > Jon > > On 2/23/2021 2:45 PM

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Semantic Externalism

cle-about-again/551603/> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 1:46 PM Daniel L. Everett <mailto:danleveret...@icloud.com>> wrote: > As you will be aware, there is a veritable industry on semantic externalism > as a result of Putnam’s Twin Earth thought experiment. But it also fits my &

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Semantic Externalism

As you will be aware, there is a veritable industry on semantic externalism as a result of Putnam’s Twin Earth thought experiment. But it also fits my own experiences in field research. For example, although every speaker I have ever encountered in an Amazonian language knows the names of all fl

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Double Negation

The most comprehensive work perhaps ever done on negation is by Yale’s Larry Horn. https://web.stanford.edu/group/cslipublications/cslipublications/site/1575863367.shtml The book is so comprehensive that L

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Resending

Thanks, John. I find this exchange extremely helpful. I look forward to the article! Dan Everett > On Feb 10, 2021, at 12:25 AM, John F. Sowa wrote: > > > > O. H. Mitchell gets the credit for informing Peirce of that point, > and I have been writing an article with examples from all of the >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

I agree strongly with John Sowa in his last message. In my book, Dark Matter of the Mind: The Culturally Articulated Unconscious, I discuss points related to these at length. Our bodies are constantly registering experiences in ways that we may not be aware of, “apperceptionally” in William Ja

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Nominalism vs. Realism

r, so much of current philosophical thought, > in or out of the Peirce realm, is so deeply entrenched in nominalism that > I started a few years back using the term Dunning–Kruger Nominalism (DKN) > to describe it. > > Regards, > > Jon > >> On 1/23/2021 10:21 AM, D

Re: [PEIRCE-L] multiple-valued logic

Dear Jacob, I am very sorry to hear this. Along with John, I send my condolences. I spoke with your father in a couple of very long phone calls about 2 years ago, when I was beginning my research on Peirce. He was extremely helpful, generous, and kind. All my best to your family, Dan Everett

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce was a fallibilist, not a foundationalist.

These are very important points that John makes. Although Peirce was extremely careful with his definitions, their entire purpose was to be put to use in science. The only way to effectively discuss their meanings is to take particular empirical problems and show how one interpretation might wor

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories at work within the signs

As a Christian missionary for 30 years and a Christian pastor for about the same amount of time, one who is now a happy atheist, I consider Peirce’s religious views (“controversial” or not) to be essential to understanding him as a person, scientist, and philosopher. While I may very well disag

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories at work within the signs

Indeed. Peirce was very much opposed to many earlier philosophers because they had been theologically trained and reasoned from theology rather than logic. Dan > On Apr 17, 2020, at 10:50 AM, John F. Sowa wrote: > > Auke and Jon AS, > > I strongly agree with Auke's analysis. I would also lik

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Logic of Language: A Semiotic Introduction to the Study of Speech

Thanks for the links, John. Dan > On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:26 AM, John F. Sowa wrote: > >  > Michael, > > I very strongly agree with the intro to your forthcoming book. In 2015, I > presented the following slides about natural logic: > http://jfsowa.com/talks/natlog.pdf > > Since then, I'v

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Logic of Language: A Semiotic Introduction to the Study of Speech

Thanks, Michael. After I complete my bio of Peirce for Princeton (end of 2021 I hope), I am writing a book for Oxford UP on “Peircean Linguistics: A Chapter in the History of Realist Thought.” You work will continue to be a tremendous help. Dan > On Apr 16, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Michael Shapiro wr

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Reality of Time

. Time can thus > be seen as a meaning-making, semiotic system in which different time codes > are delineated > > > 4] The Quest for a Unified Theory of Information > > 5] Google: Koichiro Matsuno- AltExploit. 'Abstract Expressions of Time's > Moda

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Reality of Time

All very intriguing. It is fascinating in light of this to think of the many ways that languages choose to divide/classify time. English, for example, has no morphological future tense (thus one must say “will go”), though it has morphological past (went) and present tenses (go). Other language

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Reality of Time

Jeff, Having reviewed Logic and Spiritualism I am once again reminded that I wish I had discovered Peirce much earlier in my career. My Dark Matter of the Mind is to my mind compatible with Peirce. If I were to reframe parts of it, I would have brought Peirce’s concept of “habit” into the mix.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Reality of Time

Many thanks, Jeff. Dan > On Mar 5, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Jeffrey Brian Downard > wrote: > >  > Dan, List, > > > > Given the approach to exploring our capacities for understanding one another > that you adopt in Dark Matter of the Mind, you will likely find the following > discussion of tim

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Symbols and Syntax (was Genuinely triadic relations, laws and symbols)

Actually “incomplete” is a better description than incorrect. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2019, at 13:15, Dan Everett wrote: > > Jon, > > No, we are talking about the same thing: a relationship that he considered > logical, but in fact not. This has nothing to do with the English verb p

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Genuinely triadic relations, laws and symbols

A back of the envelope calculation is that CSP wrote app 25 million words. I assume 10 pages at 25 lines to a page 10 words to a line. But in that neighborhood. Some published papers were much denser some handwritten pages much less. Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2019, at 16:47,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce Monument

www.avg.com > >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 6:49 AM Cécile Menieu-Cosculluela >> wrote: >> Thanks a lot! That's interesting. Do you know what the diagram refers to? >> Does it appear somewhere in Peirce's papers? Do you know where? With a Y to >> symboliz

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy and logic

Thanks John. I quite like Bruce’s book. Those are good quotes. Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2019, at 23:16, John F Sowa wrote: > > Gary F, Jeff BD, Dan, > > GF >>> could it be you’re thinking of Peirce’s “Logic of Quantity,” >>> 1893 (CP 4.85-92) >> Kant declares that the question o

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy and logic

Hi Eugene Thanks for this. I know the quote well. Reid’s common-sensism certainly was nativist. And here Peirce does seem to echo that. However I do not believe that he means by “innate” here the same that is implied by modern usage of that word. I am working on a discussion of how the word

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatics and Peirce

Jon I simply mean to underscore method. Not who might be correct on the terminology. I always learn from these discussions. Thanks Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2019, at 21:44, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > > Dan, List: > > Where has anyone on the List engaged in "ad hominem argumen

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The danger of destroying Peirce's semeiotic (was Ambiguities...

Thanks Gary. I have also just signed a contract with Princeton University Press to write a large intellectual biography of Peirce, with the working title “American Aristotle: The Life and Mind of C.S. Peirce”, which I hope to complete in 2022. Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2019, at 1

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A Sign Is Not a Real Thing

few times in world history - among peoples > separate from each other; i.e., no diffusion - and I feel that it is related > to the need for some kind of mnemonic device and a different perspective on > history - and authority. > > Edwina > > > > On Tue 14/08/18

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Music in some theories of the origin of language, Was, A Sign Is Not a Real Thing

ece with Peirce's view of critical Common Sense-ism. > > Gene Halton > > >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Daniel L Everett >> wrote: >> Changzi and I share many ideas in common and have corresponded about them. >> Indexes are used by all living cr

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A Sign Is Not a Real Thing

nding to think that he thought that writing > preceded speech! > > Edwina > > > > On Mon 13/08/18 3:46 PM , Eugene Halton eugene.w.halto...@nd.edu sent: > > I also agree. To twist Ernst Haeckel's saying: ontology does not recapitulate > philology, contra Derrid

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Music in some theories of the origin of language, Was, A Sign Is Not a Real Thing

eirce-related pragmatic and/or semiotic ideas > would be more than desirable. > > Best, > > Gary > > > Gary Richmond > Philosophy and Critical Thinking > Communication Studies > LaGuardia College of the City University of New York > 718 482-5690 > >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Music in some theories of the origin of language, Was, A Sign Is Not a Real Thing

the City University of New York > 718 482-5690 > > > >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 3:47 PM Eugene Halton >> wrote: >> I also agree. To twist Ernst Haeckel's saying: ontology does not >> recapitulate philology, contra Derrida. >> Gene H >>

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A Sign Is Not a Real Thing

Derrida is completely wrong. Both phylogenetically and ontogenetically. Besides doing field research on Amazonian languages that lack any form of writing, I have written extensively on language evolution. I have heard Derrida’s unfortunate claim before. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0307386120

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

https://www.press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/D/bo16611802.html https://ling.auf.net/lingbuzz/004132 Here are two recent works of mind on culture and cognition. I will be exploring these further in a specifically Peircean context in a book coming out next year from OUP. Dan Everett

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: peerages

Amen. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2018, at 15:28, John F Sowa wrote: > >> On 7/31/2018 12:37 PM, g...@gnusystems.ca wrote: >> I do think it’s become clear that there is more than one community /within/ >> this community. > > Peirce had such a broad range of interests that I don't believ