John, List:
JFS: I suspect that Peirce considered that his emphasis on diagrams and
diagrammatic reasoning would be sufficient to explain the major goals of
phaneroscopy: interpret experience in representations that would be
suitable for both formal and informal reasoning.
Where does Peirce
Jeff, Edwina, Gary F, Jon AS, List,
On this issue, I agree with
Jeff that the support of the sciences
(all of them) was uppermost in
Peirce's mind. But I admit that a
more explicit statement of the
issues would have been desirable.
JBD: I have yet to see an
explanation of Peirce's
Edwinia, List:
I concur with you assertion below, but this view in inadequate to separate the
dramatic differences between CSP’s notion of logic from classic logic and more
importantly, why he choose to follow a semiotic path to ground his logic rather
than the classic path of antecedents to
Jerry, list
1] You wrote: . "The truth functions of the trichotomy rest on the
realism of the illations, relations, and calculations of the natural
sciences."
Yes, I very much agree.
2] And, you wrote: "This point of view is not restricted to any one
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Hi Jon, Gary F, John Sowa, List,
Jon says: "I agree with the responses this morning by both Gary F. and
J
Jeff, List:
JD: Note that I was agreeing with John Sowa and Richard Smyth about the
main "business" of the Peircean phenomenologist when it comes to the
practice of applying phenomenology to questions in the positive sciences.
Given the fact that Gary was disagreeing with John on this topic, it
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Dear Jeff, list,
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for competing hypotheses.
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> All of this is part of what is necessary to make philosophical inquiry
> more rigorous--i.e., mathematical as a science.
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> --Jeff
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1] I don't see the point of your long paragraph about the duality of
'subject matter' and 'agent'. John's point was that the same agent is
quite capable of, and usually does, engage in a synechistic
John, Edwina, List:
ET (to JFS): Thank you for this outline - and I totally agree.
I agree with the responses this morning by both Gary F. and Jeff. As in the
case of pure mathematics, Peirce's phenomenology/phaneroscopy is a *distinct
*science in its own right, with its own purposes and
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Thank you for this outline - and I totally agree.
I think it's a key comment - to differentiate the subject matter of
a science from the agent-who-works with that subject.
Therefore,
Jon AS, Gary F, List,
We must always distinguish the subject
matter of any science from the
people who (a) develop the science or
(b) apply the science.
The dependencies among the sciences,
which Comte noted and Peirce
adopted after reading Comte's
classification, show how each science
John, Edwina, List:
JFS: JAS highlighted Peirce's distinction, which applies to both
mathematics and phenomenology:
JAS: It is incontrovertible that according to Peirce in CP 3.559 (and
elsewhere), the mathematician frames a pure hypothesis without inquiring or
caring whether it agrees with the
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I'm not convinced of the isolationist purity of mathematics. I
acknowledge that 'pure' mathematics focuses on a hypothesis without
acknowledgment of whether or not it corresponds to reality or not.
John, Jeff, List,
We seem to have consensus that Peirce's phenomenology makes observations
based on direct experience and draws upon mathematical principles to analyze
whatever appears into its elements, to arrive at a very general theory which
he calls the "Doctrine of Categories." Without
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