[PEIRCE-L] Diagrams as defined by C. S. Peirce

2023-11-18 Thread John F Sowa
dded some features along the lines that he had suggested. John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ While ARISBE: THE PEIRCE GATEWAY at IUPUI gets renovated, a saved copy (external to IUPUI) is at: https://web.archive.org/web/20220329120016/https://cspeirce.iupui.edu/ . ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "

[PEIRCE-L] Diagrams (was Fuyu-8B

2023-11-16 Thread John F Sowa
ishes. Mihai Nadin _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ While ARISBE: THE PEIRCE GATEWAY at IUPUI gets renovated, a saved copy (external to IUPUI) is at: https://web.archive.org/web/20220329120016/https://cspeirce.iupui.edu/ . ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to R

[PEIRCE-L] All-Pervading Transcendent God: The Logic and Religion Webinar, Nov 16 (Thursday)

2023-11-15 Thread FRANCISCO MARIANO
enovated, a saved copy (external to IUPUI) is at: https://web.archive.org/web/20220329120016/https://cspeirce.iupui.edu/ . ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iup

[PEIRCE-L] Morphisms between Aristotelian Diagrams by Alex De Klerck,. LUWebinar, Novr 15, 4pm, Paris-Geneva-Rome

2023-11-13 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] ARISBE WEBMASTER NOTE

2023-11-06 Thread Ben Udell
Arisbe is temporarily unavailable because it does not meet IUPUI's new standards for accessibility.  I haven't had access for editing Arisbe since around 2017 anyway.  So Gary Richmond (co-manager with me of both Arisbe and peirce-l), Andre DeTienne (head of the Peirce Edition Project), Nathan

[PEIRCE-L] Test (ignore)

2023-11-04 Thread Gary Richmond
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[PEIRCE-L] Peirce → Lady Welby → Ramsey → Wittgenstein

2023-11-02 Thread Gary Richmond
CHOLARSHIP ON THE RELATIONS BETWEEN LUDWIG WITTGENSTEIN AND CHARLES S. PEIRCE" https://philpapers.org/archive/NUBSOT.pdf] I'd be interested in thoughts on the topic. Best, Gary R The Cunning of Geist: Language Games: Wittgenstein, Hegel, and the Split in Philosophy * OCTOBER 22, 2

[PEIRCE-L] Call for Small Grant Proposals: God and Consciousness in Indian Traditions

2023-10-23 Thread God and Consciousness Project Team GAC
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[PEIRCE-L] Why doesn't Candomblé have a Problem of Evil? The Logic and Religion Webinar

2023-10-19 Thread FRANCISCO MARIANO
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[PEIRCE-L] LUW October 18 / A Study of the Metatheory of Assertoric Syllogistic

2023-10-18 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's diagrammatic reasoning and generative AI

2023-10-09 Thread John F Sowa
the other notes can subscribe to CG list or to Ontolog Forum. (CG list has very little traffic, so it won't fill up anyone's mailbox.) John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts s

[PEIRCE-L] Fwd: [teadus.biosemiotics:9376] CFP. Traces of Extinction. (Tartu, Estonia, 5-7 June 2024)

2023-10-09 Thread Gary Richmond
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Addendum to (Generative AI is at the top of the Hype Cycle. Is it about to crash?

2023-10-08 Thread John F Sowa
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Addendum to (Generative AI is at the top of the Hype Cycle. Is it about to crash?

2023-10-07 Thread John F Sowa
GenAI in general and LLM in particular: experiments ;-) Alex _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L

Re: [PEIRCE-L] phaneroscopic observation

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
re are links to that larger context embedded in >> it, which may be helpful to some readers. I decided to simply furnish the >> link above rather than copy the whole section to the list. Questions and >> comments are welcome here, of course. >> >> Gary f. >> >> Co

Re: [PEIRCE-L] phaneroscopic observation

2023-10-05 Thread Mike Bergman
ied that there is such a thing as truth, or he would not ask any question. [Peirce] { https://gnusystems.ca/wp/ }{ Turning Signs <https://gnusystems.ca/TS/> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L

Re: [PEIRCE-L] phaneroscopic observation

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
there is such a thing as truth, or he > would not ask any question. [Peirce] { > > https://gnusystems.ca/wp/ }{ Turning Signs <https://gnusystems.ca/TS/> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY

RE: [PEIRCE-L] phaneroscopic observation

2023-10-04 Thread John F Sowa
. Coming from the ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg } Every man is fully satisfied that there is such a thing as truth, or he would not ask any question. [Peirce] { https://gnusystems.ca/wp/ }{ Turning Signs _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Repl

[PEIRCE-L] phaneroscopic observation

2023-10-04 Thread gnox
lands of the Anishinaabeg } Every man is fully satisfied that there is such a thing as truth, or he would not ask any question. [Peirce] { https://gnusystems.ca/wp/ }{ Turning Signs <https://gnusystems.ca/TS/> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" o

[PEIRCE-L] Generative AI is at the top of the Hype Cycle. Is it about to crash?

2023-10-03 Thread John F Sowa
he obvious strengths. The people who are doing the truly fundamental research are exploring the limitations and how to get around them. John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L po

[PEIRCE-L] Generative AI is at the top of the Hype Cycle. Is it about to crash? (was Consciousness

2023-10-02 Thread John F Sowa
eo of a man who was born without a cerebellum and survived: A Man's Incomplete Brain Reveals Cerebellum's Role In Thought And Emotion. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/16/392789753/a-man-s-incomplete-brain-reveals-cerebellum-s-role-in-thought-and-emotion; John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

[PEIRCE-L] LUW Oct 4, 2023 - Complementary Proof Nets for Classical Logic by Gabriele Pulcini

2023-10-02 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] Consciousness

2023-10-01 Thread John F Sowa
es: The issue does not go away: https://theconversation.com/consciousness-why-a-leading-theory-has-been-branded-pseudoscience-214214?fbclid=IwAR2W4grlMe8Tq9pfshtdtkAUx5rX8PSFk1--etLe9WCuJ0yy8ncvsqkSwzU I have no dog in this race! Mihai Nadin https://www.nadin.ws https://www.anteinstitute.org Google Scholar _ _ _ _ _ _

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] The importance of diagrammatic thinking

2023-09-28 Thread John F Sowa
mebody (anybody you know) a picture, have them describe it, and have somebody else draw or explain what they heard, and have a fourth person compare the original to the explanation. (By the way, my previous sentence would be much clearer if I had included a drawing.) John _ _ _ _

[PEIRCE-L] CfP: SALOME 1 - The 1st South American Logic Meeting - Extended Deadline: October 4th

2023-09-27 Thread jean-yves beziau
papers will be published in the South American Journal of Logic SALOME 1 https://www.salome2024.org/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ►

[PEIRCE-L] The importance of diagrammatic thinking

2023-09-26 Thread John F Sowa
newest [1]. Alex [1] https://medium.com/@paul.k.pallaghy/llms-like-gpt-do-understand-agi-implications-dc54f4f86494 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu .

[PEIRCE-L] Paraconsistent Newsletter Summer-Winter 2023

2023-09-20 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] LUW Sept 20, 2023 - On Consequence and Rejection as Operators, by Alexei Muravitsky

2023-09-19 Thread jean-yves beziau
-universalis.org/LUAD <http://logica-universalis.org/LUAD> Everyone is welcome to attend, register here: https://cassyni.com/s/logica-universalis/seminars/ Jean-Yves Beziau Editor-in-Chief Logica Universalis Organizer of the Logica Universalis Webinar _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers:

RE: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Diagrams and structures

2023-09-17 Thread John F Sowa
ris causa) UVT Former Fulbright CyberSecurity Scholar (at New York University) Former Vice-President and Academy Chair, British Computer Society _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts sh

[PEIRCE-L] Diagrams and structures

2023-09-16 Thread John F Sowa
formal-development-1/ [2] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/366216531_English_is_a_HOL_language_message_1X _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui

[PEIRCE-L] SALOME 1 - Cusco, Peru, January 12-15, 2024

2023-09-14 Thread jean-yves beziau
) by September 21st to sal...@sa-logic.org. Notification by October 1st. After the congress, a selection of full papers will be published in the South American Journal of Logic SALOME 1 https://www.salome2024.org/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Repl

[PEIRCE-L] Diagrams and structures

2023-09-14 Thread John F Sowa
dy observed of found in some structure. Therefore, a diagram would be more likely to be the kind of pattern that some human or animal or computer would be likely to use to support reasoning or computation about a pattern of any kind. John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "

[PEIRCE-L] Diagrams and structures

2023-09-13 Thread John F Sowa
; makeup. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L but to l...@list.iupui.edu with

[PEIRCE-L] Requirements for diagrammatic reasoning (was Gartner is always interesting

2023-09-06 Thread John F Sowa
in" John, I am talking about this part of Gartner's picture you gave in attachment. [image.png] It was unknown to me that guys from AI technology have their own ideas for the term "foundation models" [1] (just an example). Alex [1] https://ai.google/discover/foundation-models/ _

[PEIRCE-L] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-09-01 Thread John F Sowa
aved N. Bourbaki from writing an algorithm for binding a quantifier variable to its own quantifier. Alex [1] https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2023/08/24/logical-graphs-first-impressions/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON

[PEIRCE-L] Example of high-speed calculations by the cerebellum

2023-08-31 Thread John F Sowa
AI. Alex _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L but to l...@list.iupui.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE PEIRCE-L in t

[PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-30 Thread Matias
diagrammatic exhibition of it does it perfect justice" (NEM 4:319). However, he does not follow these other two lines of argumentation in the mentioned text. I am not sure if I am correct about this interpretation. I apreciate your feedbak. Thank you very much in advance for your time. -- M

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-08-29 Thread John F Sowa
g I expect to see any serious science on. Michael _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L but

[PEIRCE-L] Józef Maria Bocheński: celebration of his birthday at the Logica Universalis Webinar, August 30 at 4pm CET

2023-08-29 Thread jean-yves beziau
Everybody is welcome to attend, register here https://cassyni.com/s/logica-universalis/seminars/ Jean-Yves Beziau Series Editor - Studies in Universal Logic http://www.logica-universalis.org/sul _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPL

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-08-28 Thread John F Sowa
matic" Consider this kind of structure: create a node and draw an arrow from it and at the end of it create another node, and so on ad infinitum. Thinking the process is complete we get the structure for the natural numbers. It can probably be drawn if it helps in its study. Alex _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

RE: [PEIRCE-L] [CG] Re: [ontolog-forum] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-08-28 Thread John F Sowa
defective immune system,,as well, of course, when we identify the bird or insect outside the window]. Edwina _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [CG] [ontolog-forum] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-08-28 Thread Edwina Taborsky
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-08-26 Thread Mary Libertin
ue, which we > may or may not be able to formulate with precision, and we proceed to inquire > whether it is true or not. For this purpose it is necessary to form a plan > of investigation, and this is the most difficult part of the whole operation. > We not only have to select the fea

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-08-26 Thread Mary Libertin
with precision, and we proceed to inquire > whether it is true or not. For this purpose it is necessary to form a plan > of investigation, and this is the most difficult part of the whole operation. > We not only have to select the features of the diagram which it will be > pertinent

[PEIRCE-L] Diagrammatic Reasoning and AI

2023-08-26 Thread John F Sowa
ling Harris said, computers cannot understand what people say until they have sufficient empathy to imagine themselves to be in the situations the humans are in, including imaging wanting to say what the humans want to say. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List&q

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-24 Thread John F Sowa
d on logical statements that are not diagramatically represented, including by computers given symbolic statements and rules of logic for manipulating them. -- doug foxvog _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIR

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-23 Thread Ben Udell
idea strongly associated with the use of the English words "analytic" and "synthetic" in logic. The following are gathered from my notes. I place underlines and asterisks around italicized and bolded text respectively because the IU peirce-l archive's list-serv program i

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
nother reason? > > Additionally, I do not fully understand the relation between the notion of > theorematic deduction and Peirce's thesis about the diagrammatic character > of all deduction. Here, I suspect there is some important clue to > understanding Peirce's argument. > > Thank yo

[PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-22 Thread John F Sowa
ns of thousands of symbols. We show that that is a considerable under-estimate, the true number of symbols being 4 523 659 424 929, not counting 1 179 618 517 981 disambiguatory links." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PE

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-22 Thread Matias
atively >> simple premisses, as for example it does in the theory of numbers, that >> they were led,--first Boole and DeMorgan, afterwards others of us, -to >> new >> studies of deductive logic, with the aid of algebras and graphs." (NEM >> 4:1) >> >>

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-22 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
ourbaki suggest that their definition of the number 1 runs to some tens of thousands of symbols. We show that that is a considerable under-estimate, the true number of symbols being 4 523 659 424 929, not counting 1 179 618 517 981 disambiguatory links." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscrib

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-22 Thread Helmut Raulien
t" Betreff: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics Matias, Phyllis, all, Peirce didn't talk a whole lot about novelty in deduction, and I doubt that he ever discussed non-triviality or depth in later mathematicians' sense of those ideas (which are allied,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-22 Thread Ben Udell
by Peirce.  A decade or more ago, a peirce-l member (I forget who) told me off-list that half of logicians don't even want to look at tables, visual arrays of ideas.  Since Peirce's time, system-building has gone quite out of fashion in philosophy.** * *Anyway Gilman shows how elements in reasoning can

[PEIRCE-L] LUW August 23, Chai Wah Wu. On rearrangement inequalities for triangular norms and co-norms in multi-valued logic

2023-08-22 Thread jean-yves beziau
Universalis Organizer Logica Universalis Webinar _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L but to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-21 Thread Matias
oducing > such a world of novel theorems from a few relatively simple premisses, as > for example it does in the theory of numbers, that they were led,--first > Boole and DeMorgan, afterwards others of us, -to new studies of deductive > logic, with the aid of algebras and graphs." (

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-21 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
>> "It was because those logicians who were mathematicians saw that the notion >> that mathematical reasoning was as rudimentary as that was quite at war with >> its producing such a world of novel theorems from a few relatively simple >> premisses, as for exampl

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-19 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
d graphs." (NEM 4:1) > > I know that I am asking a basic question, but thank you for your time. > > Best regards, > > Matías A. Saracho > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to t

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-19 Thread Ben Udell
gic, with the aid of algebras and graphs." (NEM 4:1) I know that I am asking a basic question, but thank you for your time. Best regards, Matías A. Saracho* * **_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-19 Thread Ben Udell
asking a basic question, but thank you for your time. Best regards, Matías A. Saracho _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, sen

Re: [PEIRCE-L] AI’s greatest lie and greatest success

2023-08-18 Thread Gary Richmond
List, As Joseph Ransdell wrote in inaugurating Peirce-L: There is no standing agenda [on Peirce-L] except the promotion of philosophical conversation of the sort which one would expect from people with a special interest in Peirce and of other communication in support of that. Thus discussion

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-18 Thread Phyllis Chiasson
-to new > studies of deductive logic, with the aid of algebras and graphs." (NEM 4:1) > > I know that I am asking a basic question, but thank you for your time. > > Best regards, > > Matías A. Saracho > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click o

[PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-18 Thread Matias
deductive logic, with the aid of algebras and graphs." (NEM 4:1) I know that I am asking a basic question, but thank you for your time. Best regards, Matías A. Saracho _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this messa

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [ontolog-forum] AI’s greatest lie and greatest success

2023-08-18 Thread John F Sowa
one will ever know. All we can do is make the most of what we’ve been given. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, s

[PEIRCE-L] AI’s greatest lie and greatest success

2023-08-17 Thread John F Sowa
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[PEIRCE-L] Contradiction in Islamic Philosophy and Mysticism: The Logic and Religion Webinar

2023-08-16 Thread FRANCISCO MARIANO
of the quiddity. . Join us 5 minutes prior to the beginning of the session! With best wishes, -- Francisco de Assis Mariano The University of Missouri-Columbia LARA Secretary _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to th

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Helmut Raulien
...@bestweb.net Cc: ontolog-fo...@googlegroups.com, "Peirce List" Betreff: Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important Dear John, dear Edwina, dear all,   is there a widely accepted definition of consciousness? If you say like "Alex>  My concept of consciousness would be an awareness

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Edwina Taborsky
to be maintained and > sustained. So I think, a computer cannot be conscious, what you need is a > living thing, an organism. So I think, only organisms- with a highly > developed brain- can be conscious or aware, but computers, even robots, not. > > Best, > Helmut > &g

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Helmut Raulien
living thing, an organism. So I think, only organisms- with a highly developed brain- can be conscious or aware, but computers, even robots, not.   Best, Helmut     Gesendet: Freitag, 11. August 2023 um 22:18 Uhr Von: "John F Sowa" An: ontolog-fo...@googlegroups.com, "Peir

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Edwina Taborsky
ty to > learn fine movement sequences, such as playing the piano. > > 'We don't know why this gene pops up in such diverse mental processes as > language, decision-making and motor learning,' says Professor Miesenböck. > However, he speculates: 'One feature common to

[PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-11 Thread John F Sowa
even a "temporal-processing" or "intelligence" gene. Any such description would in all likelihood be wrong. What FoxP does give us is a tool to understand the brain circuits involved in these processes. It has already led us to a site in the brain that is important in decision-ma

[PEIRCE-L] Formal ontologies from Rutherford and Schrödinger Re: Why vagueness is important

2023-08-10 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
s very interesting and mostly philosophical. The main question is: > can we create a device (now these are autonomous robots) capable of studying > the outside world and then itself? The progress in this direction is one of > the main topics in robotic news. And this progress i

[PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-10 Thread John F Sowa
mostly philosophical. The main question is: can we create a device (now these are autonomous robots) capable of studying the outside world and then itself? The progress in this direction is one of the main topics in robotic news. And this progress is significant. Alex _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-

[PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important (was On the concept of consciousness

2023-08-10 Thread John F Sowa
inary worlds in our hopes, fears, plans, and desires. They provide a “model theoretic” semantics for language that uses perception and action for testing models against reality. Like Tarski’s models, they define the criteria for truth, but they are flexible, dynamic, and situated in the daily drama o

[PEIRCE-L] SALOME 1 - 1st South American Logic Meeting - Cusco, Peru, January 12-15, 2024

2023-07-27 Thread jean-yves beziau
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-20 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
of questioners’ sentences inscribed in the responses of the algorithm) ? 2. How do human communicators inscribe meaning into words (as logical terms) such that the presentation to the recipient corresponds with the re-presentations of the speaker? Cheers Jerry _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► P

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-20 Thread John F Sowa
at neither is witchcraft, nor does it say, that there is no human-genetic grammar-module. And I too hope with the Linguist, that we dont have to fear ChatGPT more than we have to fear a refrigerator. Best Helmut _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or &qu

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Law of Mind and Origins of Order in the Cosmos

2023-07-19 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
tinuum. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:03 PM Jeffrey Brian Downard < peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> wrote: > Hello, > > Peir

[PEIRCE-L] Law of Mind and Origins of Order in the Cosmos

2023-07-18 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
yone is interested in taking up these sorts of questions on-list or possibly off-list by video conference, I'd be interested in having a discussion. Yours, Jeff Downard Dept. of Philosophy NAU _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All"

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-18 Thread John F Sowa
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-18 Thread Thomas903
; >> Dan, list, >> >> ok, so it is like I wrote "or it is so, that ChatGPT is somehow referred >> to universal logic as well, builds its linguistic competence up from there, >> and so can skip the human grammar-module". But that neither is witchcraft, >> nor does i

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-18 Thread Thomas903
d I too > hope with the Linguist, that we dont have to fear ChatGPT more than we have > to fear a refrigerator. > > Best > Helmut > > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to t

[PEIRCE-L] LUW session, July 19, G.Shtakser, Odessa, Epistemic Logics with Quantification Over Epistemic Operators

2023-07-18 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] LUW July 12 - Rooted Hypersequent Calculus for Modal Logic S5, by Hamzeh Mohammad - Logic Journals Impact Factor

2023-07-11 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] Why Logics?

2023-07-05 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] DIALETHEISM AND THE INEFFABILITY OF GOD - GRAHAM PRIEST: The Logic and Religion Webinar

2023-07-05 Thread FRANCISCO MARIANO
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] The history of science and Kant's mistaken response to Hume

2023-07-04 Thread John F Sowa
y is perfect (though that much of my logical formulation will alter to eliminate natural language ambiguity and various small errors which you note). Best Jack _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this messag

[PEIRCE-L] Speculative Grammar for Continuous Semiosis (was Categories for states and processes)

2023-07-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
tant, such that the > object affects the sign but the sign does not affect the object. A pure > index would denote its object without signifying any interpretant, and the > closest that we can come to such a sign is one whose only effect is drawing > attention to something else. > > GR: A

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] The history of science and Kant's mistaken response to Hume

2023-07-04 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
ough the argument will take longer). My thesis advisor has access to enormous amounts of data which aren't shared here and knows the consistency is perfect (though that much of my logical formulation will alter to eliminate natural language ambiguity and various small errors which you note).

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes

2023-07-03 Thread Gary Richmond
>> hoping for your interest and continuation about this topic. >> >> As most critical I see the object: I see it as a process, because a thing >> is only then an object, when it is being denoted, and an object can change. >> I know, that this view somehow confronts the

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes

2023-07-03 Thread Helmut Raulien
ily transfer thermodynamics to semiotics.   Best Regards   Helmut     Gesendet: Montag, 03. Juli 2023 um 01:03 Uhr Von: "Jon Alan Schmidt" An: "Peirce-L" Betreff: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes Helmut, List:   One correction--in Peirce's 1903 taxon

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes

2023-07-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
then an object, when it is being denoted, and an object can change. > I know, that this view somehow confronts the concept of the dynamical > object, but anyway, look at common speech: An object of interest has not > been an object of interest before somebody had showed interest, has it?

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes

2023-07-01 Thread fran.kelly
or usually located in Peircean philosophy and science. ---Frances From: peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu On Behalf Of Helmut Raulien Sent: Friday, 30 June, 2023 15:22 To: Peirce-L Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes List, in physics, especially thermodynamics, we have state

[PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes

2023-06-30 Thread Helmut Raulien
of interest before somebody had showed interest, has it?   Best Regards!   Helmut   _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSC

[PEIRCE-L] The history of science and Kant's mistaken response to Hume

2023-06-25 Thread John F Sowa
gical formulation will alter to eliminate natural language ambiguity and various small errors which you note). Best Jack _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-06-15 Thread Robert Junqueira
y is too weak (it >>> cannot extend beyond the sentence/proposition) and too strong (it creates >>> faux problems such as the veritable core of most formal linguistics, >>> “gap-filler” analyses, e.g. movement rules) whereas inferentialism provides >>> the best cove

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-06-15 Thread Robert Junqueira
e this point based on much more >> archaeological evidence from Homo erectus sites: >> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10816-020-09480-9 >> >> All best, >> >> Dan >> >> On Apr 20, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Helmut Raulien wrote: >> >> Dan

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] DIALETHEISM AND THE INEFFABILITY OF GOD - GRAHAM PRIEST: The Logic and Religion Webinar

2023-06-15 Thread Helmut Raulien
a human can be described (by humans)?   Best   Helmut   Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2023 um 20:49 Uhr Von: "FRANCISCO MARIANO" An: "Peirce-L" Betreff: [PEIRCE-L] DIALETHEISM AND THE INEFFABILITY OF GOD - GRAHAM PRIEST: The Logic and Religion Webinar Dear Colleague, Y

[PEIRCE-L] Paraconsistent Newsletter Spring-Fall 2023

2023-06-15 Thread jean-yves beziau
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[PEIRCE-L] DIALETHEISM AND THE INEFFABILITY OF GOD - GRAHAM PRIEST: The Logic and Religion Webinar

2023-06-14 Thread FRANCISCO MARIANO
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Your claim is unpublishable (was Objects and Perception (was God and the Universe (was The Thing In Itself)))

2023-06-13 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
e maxim "let truth decide" (the Peircean spirit of inquiry and fallibilism to my mind). From: John F Sowa Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 6:29 PM To: JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY ; Peirce-L Subject: [EXTERNAL] Your claim is unpublishable (was Objects and Pe

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