Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims and Mediation

2018-02-24 Thread kirstima
Thank you, Jon for bringing up your "Seven major variations..." In it you take up with excellent clarity seven perspectives upon the Maxim, from the standpoint of a philospher. Mentioning year with each quote is very informative in respect of development of CSP's main interests and aims.

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims and Mediation

2018-02-14 Thread Jon Awbrey
Kirsti, List ... I did once collect seven major variations on the theme: Pragmatic Maxim Seven Ways of Looking at a Pragmatic Maxim https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2008/08/07/pragmatic-maxim/ Plus a sample of previous discussions: https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/?s=Pragmatic+Maxim Regards,

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-07 Thread Jon Awbrey
Thanks, Gary, Kirsti, I haven't been able to do more than randomly sample the doings on the Peirce List for the last half year, being deeply immersed in other Peirce work that I hope to report on eventually, but Jon Alan's remarks on the Pragmatic Maxim drew me back in for a bit. He recited one

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-05 Thread kirstima
Jon, I could not agree more. Excellent, to my mind. Best regards, Kirsti Määttänen Jon Awbrey kirjoitti 4.11.2016 15:51: Jerry, List, Inquiry begins in Doubt and aims for Belief but the rush to get from D to B and achieve mental peace can cause us to short the integrated circuits of inquiry

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-04 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jon, other Jon, Gary, list: Thank you for your support of other Jon. This would mean that you think CP 5.189 is not a pragmatic maxim also, because it belongs to what you both classify as "logical critic”, the definition of which I suspect is clear to you both. For in that definition,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-04 Thread Gary Richmond
Jon, Jerry, List, Jon, I concur with your assessment. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *C 745* *718 482-5690* On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-04 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jon, other Jon, list: Thank you for that sobering thought. "But that is an accusation that applies to both of us. These are claims that must be decided by the rights of the question. In order to move forward, we must make the rules clear at the outset. What I list are reasons to suspect..."

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jerry R.: You make CP 5.189 sound mystical, which it is not. You offer it as a candidate for "the [best] pragmatic maxim," which it is not. You want us to treat you as a "co-inquirer," which you are not--you are a *dogmatist*, and CP 5.189 is your creed. I already gave my reasons; please

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-04 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jon, list: You make pragmaticism sound mystical, which it is not. What is plainer than to say that CP 5.189 is the one to which we ought to look; the one to read again and again before you move on to the others? For if the purpose is to select one over the lessers in order to spread

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-04 Thread Jon Awbrey
Jerry, List, Inquiry begins in Doubt and aims for Belief but the rush to get from D to B and achieve mental peace can cause us to short the integrated circuits of inquiry that we need to Compute Better Answers. For one thing, we sometimes operate under the influence of fixed ideas and hidden

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-03 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear list: with apologies... I meant "from the start no better than a vegetable". Best, Jerry R On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Jerry Rhee wrote: > Jon, list: > > Thank you for that earnest answer. > Still, can there not be a strongest argument? > That is, an argument

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-03 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jon, list: Thank you for that earnest answer. Still, can there not be a strongest argument? That is, an argument that is the best given the number of existing possibilities that are presented explicitly; a choice among them that is based on our valuation for likeness between terms? And if we

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-03 Thread Jon Awbrey
Jerry, List, I tend to think more in relative terms than absolute terms, so I would not expect to find an absolute best formulation of any core principle in philosophy, science, or even math. But taken relative to specific interpreters and objectives we frequently find that symbolic expressions

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-01 Thread Gary Richmond
Thanks, Jon A., I remember reading these on your blog years ago. Very helpful, including your comments. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *C 745* *718 482-5690*

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragmatic Maxims

2016-11-01 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jon, list: How do you assess whether a pragmatic maxim is good or bad? "For logic is, in the main, criticism of reasoning as good or bad." "There is in the dictionary a word, *solipsism*, meaning the belief that the believer is the only existing person. Were anybody to adopt such a belief, it