Re: human behavior

2000-12-12 Thread JKSCHW
Well, the point of the pop sociobiological claim is to legitimate nasty behaviors and unjust social arrangements by reference to the principle "ought implies can": because we can't do anything about our propensity towards hierarchy and competitiveness (so it's said), we just have to live with

Re: Have You Read All These Books?

2000-12-12 Thread JKSCHW
Okay, we agree in practice. _In practice_, AP's method involves discouragement of scholarship as Justin defines it here. [BTW, I like the typo, the spelling of "culkture," though maybe "kultur" would be more appropriate.] Of course we could drop the "method involves" and have a sentence

Re: needs

2000-12-12 Thread JKSCHW
I can't hear the difference between a clean vinyl recording and a good CD remaster. Some people talk about a "warmer" sound--it doesn't register with me. --jks The reason music used to sound like vinyl is that it was on vinyl, pops, scratches, and all. Only because the old LP's and

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Have You Read All These Books?

2000-12-12 Thread JKSCHW
"Ken Hanly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are different types of analytical philosophy. . . . Sure, but, I wasn't trying to give a history or a typology. I was just trying to explain why the culture of APis anti-intellectual and hostile to humanistic cultivation. Also, incidentally, to

Re: Re: Have You Read All These Books?

2000-12-11 Thread JKSCHW
Of course I think philosophers (of all people) ought to be cultured people of wide curiosity. However, it's a fact that in high-powered reserach institutions and places that aspire to be like those places, they are mostly not. I don't think philosophers are unique here: we see a general

Re: Time for agile leftists to shift and support Gore.

2000-12-11 Thread JKSCHW
What made you think I think that big bourgeois judges are OK? Actually, elections are exactly where I think that liberal political values belong--not "liberal" in the sense of Democratic party, which isn't even liberal in the New Deal-Great Society sense anymore, but in the sense of

Re: Question for the Lefties

2000-12-11 Thread JKSCHW
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/00 08:19PM In reply to Jim and anybody else: Before I ask other questions, please provide me with a brief answer to the following very basic question. We all apparently agree that "markets" exist since the beginning of recorded history. But marxists distinguish

Administrative Stuff

2000-10-19 Thread JKSCHW
Michael: please sign me up on pen-l at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am changing my ISP. This can also serve as notication to anyone who cares to have my new address. --Justin Schwartz

Re: Why Yugoslavia had to be destroyed

2000-10-12 Thread JKSCHW
And thsi article on Slovakia tells us what about Yugoslavia? Personally, I'll go with Chomsky on this over you, Louis. --jks In a message dated Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:48:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wall Street Journal, October 12, 2000 U.S. Steel's

Re: Re: Memory History: Herman Melville's _Benito Cereno_ (was Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile)

2000-10-11 Thread JKSCHW
I guess I am part of the stupid left that is blinkered by imperialist propaganda. I don't see see how the ratio of state ownership in the former Yugoslavia is deeply relevant to socialism or whether the regime was worth defending; I am aware that it was high, but it was as high or higher in

Memory History: Herman Melville's _Benito Cereno_ (was Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile)

2000-10-11 Thread JKSCHW
Louis: We just disagree about the importance of state ownership in the abstract. I support the welfare provisions you describe, of course, but they are possible under social democratic capitalism, and state ownership does not guarantee them either. However, this is a very deep philosophical

R Memory History

2000-10-11 Thread JKSCHW
I agree that welfare state capitalism was not on the agenda in the ex-bloc states, but that does not mean that state ownership that is basically welfdarist is socialist any more than social democracy is socialist. In a message dated Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:33:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Louis

Democommies

2000-10-11 Thread JKSCHW
This is nothing new. They've been doing it since 1936. --jks In a message dated Wed, 11 Oct 2000 1:00:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charles Brown wrote: CPUSA had a theory of American exceptionalism in the 1930's: Americanism is 20th Century Socialism

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: unemployment corruption

2000-10-11 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/11/00 6:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me a clear case of bad socialism (though it shouldn't be used to say anything about socialism in general). I can't remember any details, but Michael Vickery had a discussion of this topic

Re: Re: Memory History: Herman Melville's _Benito Cereno_ (was...

2000-10-11 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/11/00 10:19:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is that "the choice" was not theirs. The bombings economic sanctions, even aside from lesser forms of attacks and propaganda, have shaped the nature of "the choice" made by a large

Re: Re: Re: Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile

2000-10-10 Thread JKSCHW
It seems to be a constant with Anglo politics that they will always kill you or rob you on the basis of some "principle", as the Irishman George Bernard Shaw once pointed out... And this is worse than robbing or killing you on the basis of no principle? --jks

Re: Re: The storming of the parliament

2000-10-10 Thread JKSCHW
The CIA most certainly master-minded the counter-revolution in Yugoslavia. It has their modus operandi stamped all over it. They killed Kennedy too, along with Mob and the Cubans, decided to cut their losses. And Elvis. And Marylin Monroe. And they have their eye on YOU, Louis! --jks

Re: Re: Re: Cops from Cacak play key role in Kostunica coup

2000-10-10 Thread JKSCHW
Right, nothing could help. By Lou's reasoning, the involvement of units of the Czarist military in the Bolshevik revolution supports the idea that it was an imperialiast coup inspired by German military intelligence. Actuslly there is rather more support for that notion than the idea that Lou

Slobo..

2000-10-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/8/00 4:52:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have never said that Milosevic is a proponent of socialism I am relieved; I thought you were losing it. One could have got that impression. (he is thought of as such in the Western mass media by

Re: RE: Re: Yugoslavia again

2000-10-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/8/00 6:01:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then we shouldn't be sorry to see the nationalist thugs at the CIA, DOD, NSA etc go too.Once we figure out how to get rid of them of course Surely we will not. Though they mostly aren't

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: A Krugman Klassic

2000-10-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/9/00 1:08:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And so what do the two Pauls (PK PS) conclude about Adam Smith -- a minor pre- Ricardian? PS is remembered for this stupid crackn about Marx, but it was not his cionsidered view. He wrote several

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Media Democracy in Yugoslavia (was Re: Ec...

2000-10-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/9/00 8:35:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The hell it is. The MiloMafia made a killing off of hastily-privatized state enterprises, dabbled in vicious wars in other countries, and went through a big song and dance complaining about how the NATO

Re: Yugoslavia

2000-10-07 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/6/00 9:06:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me unfortunate when North American leftists become spokespersons for CIA propaganda. And I think it unfotrtunate when any leftist becomes an apologist for nationalistic chauvinism and

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-07 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/7/00 9:07:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inequality is higher now as well. Socialists are not interested in economic growth for the same of economic growth. We are interested in social justice. Not all socialists: "What is a 'fair

Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-07 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/7/00 9:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's like Yeltsin's shelling of the Duma. I see, The present leaderships victory in a democratic election, despite Slobo's virtually total control of the media and ability to stuff ballot boxesa t will,

Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread JKSCHW
So the CIA brought out almost the entire population of Serbia against Slobo yesterday? Cheez, I bet they wish. We will see whether the dire predictions about the new leadership's policies turn out to be true; I actually think that the leadership is rather nationalistic, but time will tell.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread JKSCHW
Louis has joined the "Hail the Red Army in Afghanistan" brigade. It took 10 years for the CIA to bring out the population of Serbia against Slobo, but they did it, though good socialists should have offered the Milosovic regime critical support. I am amazed. --jks In a message dated Fri, 6

Re: Economic revolutions/tortured election results

2000-10-06 Thread JKSCHW
I think Charles is a bit fuzzy about whom the Mafia candidate in Serbia was. We will see about the new guys. But we _know_ about Slobo, a thug and murderer. --jks In a message dated Fri, 6 Oct 2000 3:10:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Charles Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In support of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread JKSCHW
The US and the USSR are indeed both intolerant of dissident views, but the Yugoslav model--which I, as market socialist defend and Louis has savaged for years as antisocialist, essentially capitalist, a betrayal, etc, ad nauseum--as been dead in the Yugoslav rump republic for almosta decade.

Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread JKSCHW
This was a Spartacus League slogan in the 1970s. Anyway, do you defend Slobo against the new regime? I don't think so. --jks In a message dated Fri, 6 Oct 2000 5:04:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Louis has joined the "Hail the Red Army in Afghanistan"

Re: Re: Brad speaks

2000-10-02 Thread JKSCHW
Well, it is a theory, because it purports to explain the phenomena. Of course, demonic possession is a theory too. That and $3.75 wil buy you a cuppa cappucino. --jks In a message dated Sun, 1 Oct 2000 12:48:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Devine

Re: Re: Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-30 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/30/00 12:02:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Martin Luther had come along a century and a half later, there would have been no one in western Europe to develop Copernican physics after the trial of Galileo. It's certainly possible that

Wernher von Braun

2000-09-28 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/28/00 12:24:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it is clear to me who the true heirs of the Nazis are. The folks who recruited them for the CIA? Gather round while I sing you of Wernher von Braun A man whose allegience Is ruled by expedience

Re: Was Eurocentrism

2000-09-28 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/28/00 12:52:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So in effect the two sides of this debate is that Brenner's explanation for the rise of Europe has great merit but so does the argument made by other marxists from the "periphery" (see also David

Re: Re: Wernher von Braun

2000-09-28 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/29/00 12:43:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah. Tom Lehrer... Where oh where is his equal today? Nowhere, then or now. "in German oder Englisch I know how to count down And I'm learning Chinese, says Wernher von Braun." There is a true

Re: Re: Re: 8 Eurocentric Historians

2000-09-27 Thread JKSCHW
How to determine whether someone is one the major historians: There is a book called The Brenner Debate, with articles and responses discussing B's thesis about the rise of capitalism. If the people in your field name a major debate after you, such that it can be referred to by just your name,

Eurocentric Historians

2000-09-27 Thread JKSCHW
Louis, this is unworthy. Brenner like Faurisson? If I didn't know you better, I'd say you were a fool. As it is, the remark approaches legal defamation. Need I point out that being refuted by being taken seriously is indeed the sign og major scholarship, while being refuted by being trashed as

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8 Eurocentric Historians

2000-09-27 Thread JKSCHW
OK, maybe there is something wrong with the Big Name structure of academia: I wouldn't dispute that. Part of my point is that Brenner is a Big Name. Not all Big Names are any good: I know lots who aren't. But Brenner is a Big Name who is first rate. part of the way you can tell this is that he

Workers' Entitlements

2000-09-26 Thread JKSCHW
Many people have complained about my typos. they are no doubt due to my bkindfolding by imperialist propaganda. The argument that the ethical basis of Marxism is worker's is respectable, but, I believe, a mistaken reading of Marx. there is an extensive debate on this. A main figure on the

Re: Dissolving history (was Re: Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.)

2000-09-26 Thread JKSCHW
I am not an academic or an economist. You will have to decide for yourself whether I am a faithful servant of the IMF. --jks In a message dated Tue, 26 Sep 2000 7:45:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: En relaciĆ³n a [PEN-L:2302] Re: Re: The US

Re: Re: RE: the labor theory of value

2000-09-26 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/26/00 6:09:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Locke's labor theory is a theory of property, BTW. That is, it's a (poor) theory of why some people have property and some people have more than others in society. Every few years I try to convince

Re: Re: Re: Re: 8 Eurocentric Historians

2000-09-26 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/26/00 6:12:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brenner clearly went out on a limb to attack the D-of-U school. And Blaut attacks back, also going out on a limb. I won't say which of these two has higher levels of scholarship. It seems to me that both

Re: Re: Re: Re: Dissolving history (was Re: Re: Re: The US buys ...

2000-09-26 Thread JKSCHW
Fair enough. Actually I think being an academic is more of a vice and being an economist is a venial sin. As for stepping further in that direction, I really to think sometimes it is best to say, Look, I don't care who hit whom first: we have a Situation here, and what are we going to do about

Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
The hypocrisy of US foreign policy requires no comment, although no dount it demands outrage. But no one outside his thuggish clique could mourn the defeat of Milosovic. --jks In a message dated Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:06:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Ken Hanly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
I am not surprised, but I am disappointed, to find Louis falling in with the defense of the Milosovic regime, even to comparing it with the Sandinistas, whose mistakes were at least part of a policy of promoting a government policy intendedto promote the welfare of ordinary Nicaraguans, rather

Re: debating yugoslavia

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
I agree with Michael that this discussion is unlikely to be productive, and will not debate apologists for Milosovic. If he is no worse that our own misleaders, he is also no better. I remain an ignorant victim of NATO propaganda and blinkered by imperialist hoodwinking . . . . --jks In a

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the labor theory of value

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
No, you are thinking about the passage at the start of the Critique of the Gotha Program where Marx attacks the idea that labor creates all wealth, not value. For MArx, value is by definition embodied labor. --jks In a message dated Mon, 25 Sep 2000 2:57:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Doug

Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
I am seriously uninterested in who did what to whom first in Kosovo or elsewhere. That always leads to the argument that it is OK for the first victim to do the same thing back, a notion that I, geneally unsuccessfully, continually try to disabuse my kids of. Kosovars are not innocent

Re: the labor theory of value

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/25/00 4:11:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CB: But "value" and "exchange-value" are not quite exactly the same thing ? This has probably been answered, but no. Value is socially necessay abstract labor time embodied in the commodity. Exchange

Re: Marx and Nature

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
In an otherwise disgraceful, though widely cited, essay on the LTV, G.A, Cohen distinsguishes usefully between the strict and vulgar LTVs. The vulgar LTV is that labor is the source of all value. For Marx this is true by definition; he makes a few sideswipes at subjective value theories, which

Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.

2000-09-25 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/25/00 5:57:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely historical facts are not unimportant, when one discusses the "judgment of history," no? In any case, what FAIR is trying to do, of course, is not to fuel disputes over "who did what to whom

Re: neo-Ricardian economics

2000-09-22 Thread JKSCHW
Yeah, we post-Sraffans always get this from believers in the LTV: "It's too deep you someone with your analytical equipment to understand." No doubt. but HK have a sympathetic thoughvery critical treatment of what is living and dead in the TLV in their The Political Economy of Marx, 2d ed.

Re: Re: Re: a profound comment on the transformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/21/00 4:58:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: His main point seems to be a relatively common-sense explanation of the "solution" to the "transformation problem" that Fred Moseley advocates. See the latter's article in the current _Review of Radical

Re: RE: A real rip off

2000-09-19 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/19/00 4:52:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does California have decent co-op/worker ownership laws like Oregon's so a health services for seniors co-op could be set up. Tell me more about the Oregon laws. --jks

Re: Query on teminology, was Re: . . .labor/gender issues/corpor...

2000-09-14 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/14/00 6:45:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could someone explain for non-economists the terms Micro- and Macro-economics. When did they arise? Are they tied to any particular theory/theories of economics or of the purpose of economics? Etc?

Re: Gas prices

2000-09-14 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/15/00 12:17:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why gas prices are high. Do you have any inputs that I should pass on? Isn't the FTC looking into possible antritrust violations? Tell him to ask over there. --jks

Re: dulce decorum

2000-09-13 Thread JKSCHW
Dulce ET Decorum est pro patria mori.

Re: Re: Re: dulce decorum

2000-09-13 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/13/00 11:51:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know: I was trying to say "sweet decorum," though perhaps Justin will want to reenact the scene from "Monty Python's Life of Brian," in which the Roman guard lectures Brian on the poor Latin grammar

Re: Re: Thatcher and nationalism

2000-09-13 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/13/00 4:27:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well this might be nice if nations intervened in other countries when bad things are done and were able to stop the bad things happenings. When socialist nations did intervene, imperialist nations did

Re: Re: Re: Re: Economics and Literature

2000-09-11 Thread JKSCHW
They are difficult, although there is some nice stuff in them. Hard as it is, there is some pretty language in the cahpter on commodity fetishism. The standard English translations are not great--Moore 7 Aveling is very Victorian and not all that accurate, and the new MECW slightly cleaned up

Re: Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-11 Thread JKSCHW
What does geography suggest that Alsace-Lorraine is part of, France or Germany? Or more to the point today, East Jerusalem? --jks In a message dated Mon, 11 Sep 2000 1:43:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what they are worth, my views on the Malvinas are

Re: Re: Re: Re: Economics and Literature

2000-09-11 Thread JKSCHW
Well, this confuses plainness and accessibility with literary mastery, which is the question I raised. Lenin' stuff is plain and accessible, but not beautiful. Marx's is often difficult, but generally beautiful. It has what he said in his early letter to his dad was true of Hegel, a "grotesque

Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a...

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
Hume reports it to be a fact that we will not give up on induction or (another target of his skeptical attacks) personal identity over time. Does he have an a priori argument that we could not? No. Is it inconstistent for him to say, We have always used these concepts, so we always will? Well,

Re: Re: Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a...

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/10/00 11:33:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the claim that "we always will" - i.e. that "in other instances" the repetition, the expectation and the belief will be conjoined - cannot be justified Of coutrse it can't. If it could, then there

Re: Re: Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a...

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
Hume would say, more constant conjunction is what you have--here, the CC of the bell with the CC of the two other things. --jks In a message dated 9/10/00 12:13:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I give up. What would Hume say? The bell is warning you that constant

anti-Pomo babble

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
Ditto. --jks In a message dated 9/10/00 12:16:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Stephen Cullenberg Doug People might be interested to know that Jack Amariglio, David Ruccio and I have a forthcoming edited volume from Routledge on the topic Doug mentions. . . .

Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a Cat (was Re: pomois...

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
This misreads Hume. Hume is not a radical individualist--quite unlike Hobbes, who really does give us a world of atomic of atomic individuals bound together only by contract. Hume's metaphysics is a mosaic of events that merely happen together, but his social philosophy is genuinely social.

Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a Cat (was Re: pomois...

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/10/00 3:57:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One can be a radical skeptic anarchist, to be sure (e.g. Paul Feyerabend), instead of a conservative, for instance. For example. F thought he was a realist, btw. My contention is, though, that

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a...

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/10/00 4:10:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ustin wrote: In a message dated 9/10/00 11:33:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the claim that "we always will" - i.e. that "in other instances" the repetition, the

Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a...

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/10/00 4:48:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What justifies Hume's belief that nature or customs _cause_ our habits of inductive inference? Hume might shrug say, "yes, there is contradiction, but you see, I can't help it, neither can you." Not

Re: Hume, Marx, Rousseau

2000-09-10 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/10/00 7:20:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hume was anti-egalitarian Yes and would be at home in the Mises-Hayek-Nozickian world, I believe. No. He's an old-timey Burkean conservative, not a market fanatic. He'd be a "wet" Tory or a

Re: Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a Cat (was Re: po...

2000-09-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/9/00 10:46:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How could Hume reach this conclusion without employing induction? Oh, he admits--he insists!--that we cannot but employ it. He just thinks we cannot justify that employment in the face of his skeptical

Re: Economics and Literature

2000-09-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/9/00 12:53:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marx, for instance, often points to Shakespeare as a source of insight into capitalist motives in general and into the money-making and money-loving motives in particular. There is an excellent book by

Re: Re: Re: Economics and Literature

2000-09-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/9/00 2:28:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the German professors here -- not a radical at all -- uses Marx as an example of the best in German writing -- not of medium grade. The _best_ in German writing in Goethe, the only writer in

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a Cat(was...

2000-09-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/9/00 3:15:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ken Hanly wrote: Reason is not capable of really questioning induction since reason is powerless against such a natural instinct. How then is Hume able to question induction? Ken misspeaks,

Postmodern Grin without a...

2000-09-09 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/9/00 5:05:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't we dismiss all these questions about induction and epistemology and ontology in a pragmatic way, i.e., say that our doubts and skepticism are really irrelevant if they don't act as a guide to

Re: anti-Pomo babble

2000-09-08 Thread JKSCHW
I have read and indeed taught the major pomos poststructuralists--Derrida, DeMan, Foucault, DeLeuze Guttari, Baudrillard, Lyotard, Rorty, and made an effort to get a grip on Irigaray, Kristev, Butler, and Spivak. I am pretty confident that they share a family resemblance in advocating: 1)

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: anti-Pomo babble

2000-09-08 Thread JKSCHW
BUFFALOS? --jks In a message dated Fri, 8 Sep 2000 2:45:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doug Henwood wrote: Are "these people" any worse than most of the economics literature, which is all too often obscure, abstract, remote from reality, and

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: anti-Pomo babble

2000-09-08 Thread JKSCHW
Me, an economist? Sir, there is my gage! And having shown little interest in philosophy? What would show a lot. pray tell, beyond gettimng a PhD in it and working the field until the jobs ran out? --jks In a message dated Fri, 8 Sep 2000 3:20:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Doug Henwood [EMAIL

Re: Re: anti-Pomo babble

2000-09-08 Thread JKSCHW
I had the same sort of training as Ken Hanly, somewhat later on, basically high powered analytical philosophy: rather than Austin and Bowsma, my icons were Quine, Davidson, and Rawls, my teachers Rorty, Harman, Kuhn, and Scanlon (undergrad), Gibbard, Railton, and Mary Hesse (grad). I did pick

Re: Re: :realism

2000-09-07 Thread JKSCHW
Yoshie asked: It doesn't seem to me to require a belief that statements (e.g. E= MC2) are Platonic entities in order to believe that what some statements refer to existed before the statements were made. Am I missing something? * * * No, you are right. But that is not what I said. What

Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread JKSCHW
I agree with Yoshie here, and I d o not think that you believe what you say. Do you find it hard to pass judgment on Henry Kissinger or George W. Bush? --jks Understanding that this is relative however makes passing judgment almost impossible. And I am not talking about the judgment of

Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for ...

2000-09-07 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/7/00 3:54:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am I right in locating the core error in pomoism (as currently defended) in its assumption that claims are either "true" or "unjudgeable opinions"? Such a view excludes the possibility of criteria that

Re: Re: Hume the Postmodern Grin without a Cat (was Re: pomois...

2000-09-07 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/7/00 6:14:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So why haven't post-modernists taken Hume seriously? Especially since a lot of what I read from them sounds like it was cribbed from Hume? Hume is an empiricist. He takes science seriously. He writes

Pomo, again! (response to Jim)

2000-09-07 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/7/00 9:41:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [after this message, this discussion will be off-list, given Michael Perelman's preferences.] I don't seewhy. There are a lot of people who are interested in the questions being discussed here, even if

Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread JKSCHW
I wasn't picking on Nicole, who is after all a student, but on supposedly professional scholars in the pomo mode whose analysis is no better. I except some of the big shots: Derrida, Foucault, DeLeuze, Rorty, etc., are quite sophisticated. Lytoard, however, is not. --jks In a message dated

Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread JKSCHW
I was a professional philosopher of science, taught at Michigan, Cambridge, Kalamazoo College, and Ohio State. Now I am a lawyer. You present the argument, suggested once by the Harvard phil of science prof Hilary Putnam, that we should conclude that all of our beliefs are wrong because all

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re:realism

2000-09-06 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/6/00 9:07:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laws of course only exist in thought (except for pure Platonists, who believe that forms or ideas are more real than the actualities they refer to or describe). What exists outside of thought are the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re:realism

2000-09-06 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/7/00 12:04:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think you and I are in any real disagreement on this. "Laws *state*." "e=mc2" *states* something about light, but were minds not around to make the statement light would do just fine by itself.

Re: Re: Pomocanadianism

2000-09-05 Thread JKSCHW
Touche, Charles. In a message dated Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:47:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Charles Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And Capital has Canada. CB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/00 04:07PM In a message dated 9/4/00 3:58:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, ever

Re: RE: Pomocanadianism

2000-09-05 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/5/00 7:10:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Carrol it is Ottawa. - Sez you, sez the postmodernist. --jks

Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/5/00 8:06:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Academics are in a position of authority. Authority that historically does not pan out. I have never been in a class in which what a past academic said was taken for truth. And the reality of the

Re: Re: Re: pomoistas

2000-09-04 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/4/00 2:27:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So should I issue a blanket condemnation of economics as a criminal enterprise, to quote Jim O'Connor? It's sort of tempting, isn't it? --jks

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-04 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/4/00 2:37:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most "truths" aren't of the 2+2=4 variety, at least the truths of political economy. Is a certain income distribution fair? Is a certain production process efficient? Are men and women equal? Where does

Pomocanadianism

2000-09-04 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/4/00 3:58:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, ever met anyone who didn't know the capital of Canada? Canada has a capital? --jks

Re: Re: Re: Re: Baudrillard

2000-09-04 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/4/00 5:34:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll answer you after right after you answer this question. Are children an exploited class? Are they an investment good? A consumption good? I just can't make up my mind. Doug An expensive

Re: RE: Pomotismo

2000-09-03 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/2/00 6:01:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a question: If there are two scholars, one male and one female, who write exceptionally on fundamentalism which would be cited, referenced, quoted and read more often in a classroom? If you can't

Re: Re: pomotismo

2000-09-01 Thread JKSCHW
The tend to put meaning(less) parentheses around parts of words, use terms like "discourse," "privilege," and "theorize" freely, dispise essentialism and "foundationalism," "valorize 'difference,'" and think ill of class analysis, science, or objectivity. They are armed, but not dangerous, or

Mill's Socialism

2000-09-01 Thread JKSCHW
This seems to be capitalism among co-ops. Maybe that is what Justin means by market socialism. Mill's musings on competition would please the most ardent free market capitalist. * * * Well, it's not the sort of market socialism I would advocate. As many of you know, I would get rid of private

Re: Re: RE: Re: Econophysics

2000-09-01 Thread JKSCHW
It's only "thin" in being concise. Most of Hirschman's writings are terse, elegant, concise, laconic, and crystalline. This is another of his marvels of compressed erudition. --jks In a message dated Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:16:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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