Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Jonathan Lassen
From my standpoint the conversation concerning China gets loud because
of the lack of concrete economic and political data. Then ideology
parades as insight.
Quite.
If China's non agricultural workforce is between 350 and 400 million . .
. with roughly 100 million in the NON STATE SECTOR . . . then the
question becomes what is the economic meaning of state sector and non
state sector in China?
The self-described meaning of the state sector is here:
http://www.sasac.gov.cn/eng/eng_qygg/eng_qygg_0001.htm
This is its number 1 responsibility:
1) ... to guide and push the reform and restructuring of the
state-owned enterprises. Supervise the maintenance and appreciation of
state assets value for those state-invested enterprises, reinforce the
management of the state-owned assets, promote the establishment of
modern enterprise system of the SOEs and improve enterprises Corporate
governance, drive the strategic adjustment of the state-owned economic
structure and layout.
Also, your employment numbers are fantastically off. Here's a report
(2002) from China's State Council:
The employees of state and collective enterprises and institutions
accounted for 37.3 percent of the total urban employees in 2001, down
from 99.8 percent in 1978. Meanwhile, the number of employees of
private, individually owned and foreign-invested enterprises has
increased drastically. In the countryside, the household is still the
dominant unit of agricultural employment. However, with the
implementation of the urbanization strategy and the development of
non-agricultural industries, non-agricultural employment and the
transfer of rural labor have increased rapidly. By the end of 2000, the
number of employees of township enterprises had reached 128.195 million,
of which 38.328 million were employed by township collective
enterprises, 32.525 million by township private enterprises and 57.342
million by individually owned township enterprises. Since the 1990s, the
labor force transferred from rural to urban areas has topped the
80-million mark.
from: http://www.china.org.cn/e-white/20020429/1.I.htm
Furthermore, since 2000, nearly *all* of the township and village
enterprises have been formally privatized (usually sold to the
managers), so the 38+ million listed above in the 'collective' economy
can now be moved to the 'private' column.
Add it all up: 65 million employed in the state sector, 800+ million
outside of it.
Also, the ratio of employees working in the state sector continues to
decline, as does its share of GDP/assets, etc.
And furthermore, many of the SOEs are now no longer fully 'owned' by the
State. The state merely has a controlling stake of the enterprises'
shares, while management has been contracted out to
From the perspective of living labor, what is the difference between
state and non-state management if their common goal is the ruthless
expansion of value?
Let's forget about the 800 million in agriculture . . . who under the
best conditions of industrial socialism ... can only alienate their
products on the basis of exchange . . . no matter what the form of
property in land.
There aren't 800 million in agriculture. There are somewhere around 800
million people registered in rural areas, but a little less than half of
China's working age population is engaged in agriculture, around 450
million.
Jonathan


Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Waistline2


In a message dated 8/11/2004 12:06:10 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Also, your employment numbers are fantastically off. Here's a report (2002) from China's State Council:

Reply 

Thanks for the data. 

Actually . . . they are not my figures . . . and perhaps should not have been used. Here is the data and source of "my" figures from an article dated Nov. 1, 2003: 

Current Condition of China's Working Class by Liu Shi is a former vice-chairman of the Chairman of the ACFTU (All-China Federation of Trade Unions) 

"Workers now are responsible for the creation of 72.1% of China's GDP. 

In 1978, there were 120 million workers in China. By 2000, there were 270 million. Adding the 70 million peasants that have moved to the cities and found long-term wage work, China's working class now numbers approximately 350 million, accounting for half of China's working population. 

There are currently more than 100 million workers now employed in the non-state sectors. The 13th Party Congress established that workers laboring in private enterprises are wage laborers. 

What about the SOEs? SOEs have undergone two types of reforms: the small have been sold-off and the large have been transformed into joint-stock corporations. A portion of small and medium-sized SOEs have been sold to private owners, and transformed into private enterprises, while another portion have transferred ownership of a significant portion of enterprise shares to the management. 

http://www.chinastudygroup.org/index.php?type=articleid=62



Melvin P. 



Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Waistline2



In a message dated 8/11/2004 12:06:10 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From the perspective of living labor, what is the difference betweenstate and non-state management if their common goal is the ruthlessexpansion of value?

Comment 

The property relations that determines the circuit of reproduction and give it a distinct shape. 

Under the best socialism . . . or rather under the socialism that has and exist . . . one sells their labor power . . . even if it is to a system that is the dictatorship of the proletariat. 

At best socialism is a transition in the form of property and does not equal the abolition of property. Socialism has never meant freedom to me. 

You are correct concerning my use of 800 million. They arerural as opposed to agricultural sector. 

Nevertheless my base question was what did Fidel say that qualified as being horrified by China. 

Melvin P. 


Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nevertheless my base question was what did Fidel say that qualified as
being horrified by China.
He probably has never criticized China's capitalist transformation
publicly since China has been fairly generous with Cuba economically.
The article I forwarded quotes diplomats who were in contact with Castro
supposedly, but I doubt you'll find anything specific in print. The last
time Castro visited China, he made a rather tactful observation about
how much had changed.
To really get a handle on how he might see developments in China, you
have to look at what he has said about Cuba and extrapolate from that.
Castro has been resistant to market reforms all along the line. If you
want more information, check the Castro speech database at:
http://lanic.utexas.edu/la/cb/cuba/castro.html
It is a very useful resource.
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Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Waistline2


In a message dated 8/11/2004 3:20:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Nevertheless my base question was what did Fidel say that qualified as being horrified by China. 

He probably has never criticized China's capitalist transformation publicly since China has been fairly generous with Cuba economically. The article I forwarded quotes diplomats who were in contact with Castro supposedly, but I doubt you'll find anything specific in print. The last time Castro visited China, he made a rather tactful observation about how much had changed.

Reply 

Agreed . . . and I will most certainly examine the sources indicated. I of course do not deny the existence of the bourgeois property relations in China. Nor do I beleive that one can advance to communism on the basis of the industrial system. 

My resistance is to an ideological curve in our history that bounces from crying crocodile tears over the alleged famine killing perhaps as many as 40 million people and all kinds of vilification of the revolution in China and the on going revolutionary process.

China . . . or rather the character and substance of her economy . . . is most certainly being more and more integrated into the world economy on the basis of bourgeois reproduction or a set of needs that generates profits and the reproduction of the bourgeois property relations. What some call expanded value without qualification. Value is more than one thing . . . and embraces a social relationship. 

To be frank . . . telling me about the law of value or expanded value in CHina means next to nothing . . . it don't mean shit to me. 

You did not state this . . . but is there a possibility of us reaching communism without an expanded value that is transformed on the basis of the form of property and the technological regime? 

We read and can read the same material more than less. 

I cannot predict the path of the people of China for the next 100 years. 

Fuck dumb shit. What has been our path for the past 100 years . . . in terms of the liberation of an oppressed class? The class that was liberated was the sharecropper . . . he was fucking abolished or his energy as a class was no longer need as productive activity. 

All of us speak of value as this mystical thing. 

My communism is common sense. Yea . . . common sense and not theoretical excursion about alienation. 

Fuck that abstract shit about expanded value . . . I did that for twenty years. 

What did Fidel say about China is a valid question and you answered in an honorable way. I know a little bit about Cuba and its curve of history and why Fidel is out of time. 

Hey . . . I love Fidel . . . but there are some outstanding demographics that cannot be ignored forever. There is some real history involved. 

Thanks . . . Lou. 


Melvin P. 


China . . . or rather her economy . . . 




Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Jonathan Lassen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My resistance is to an ideological curve in our history that bounces
from crying crocodile tears over the alleged famine killing perhaps as
many as 40 million people and all kinds of vilification of the
revolution in China and the on going revolutionary process.
Which I haven't heard anyone do here, please correct me if I'm wrong.
But speaking of revolution, here's the (very) rough draft of a piece by
Li Changping, former county head in China, who came to fame in China by
writing a letter to then Premier Zhu Rongji about corruption and the
desperate conditions in Hubei Province.
Prevent Rural Problems From Becoming Revolutionary
The main manifestation of rural problems
1. In central and western China, most rural households find it difficult
to even maintain simple reproduction after paying taxes and fees on
their agricultural income. Furthermore, the majority of migrant workers
find it difficult to reproduce their labor power on their wages.
In 70% of the villages in central and western China, each family has
about 8 mu of land. In average years, each mu of land produces about
1,500 jin of grain, and at .5 yuan/jin, this is about 750 yuan in gross
revenue per mu. After subtracting about 200 yuan per mu in production
and transaction costs, and 100 yuan in all sorts of visible and
invisible taxes and fees, this leaves 450 yuan/mu in income, or about
3,600 yuan in income per family, and usually not more than 5,000 if you
include income from sidelines. This figure is an approximation of farm
income in currency, while only about 3,000 yuan of a family's income
comes in the form of cash. Because education, medical, and the
production costs of farmers are all high, it is thus difficult for
farming households to break even. According to a survey undertaken by
students from Nanjin University in their hometowns, 66% of
central-western rural households find it difficult to maintain simple
reproduction, and 64% of households are operating in debt.
Migrant workers in cities currently earn about 6,000 yuan a year, but
they have on average 900 yuan in medical expenses, 1,500 yuan in rent,
2,000 in food and incidental expenses, 200 yuan in clothing expenses,
etc. This leaves them with about 600 yuan/year to take home. It is not
possible for a young man to accumulate enough money to build a house,
get married, and prepare for children and old age on 600 yuan a year.
2. Central-western China's infrastructure has been crumbling. Health,
education and other public goods exist only in name. Rural markets are
depressed, and financial resources have dried up. Production and life in
general are difficult in rural areas, and the romantic image of farming
in China is now nothing more than a historical memory.
In recent years, the state has spent a great deal on managing large
river systems, with impressive results. However, because the level of
organization and mobilization in villages has fallen from the past, many
of the infrastructure projects built under the communes are not being
maintained, lowering villages' abilities to fight natural disasters. The
number of school buildings has increased in the last few years, but the
public education system that existed before the 80s no longer exists.
Schooling is now farming households' biggest expense (36% of their
income). A survey by the Ministry of Health revealed that rural
households pay on average 500 yuan/year in medical expenses. Falling ill
and going to the hospital have become a luxuries for farmers, and also
one of their greatest fears.
In the 80s, middle schools, roads, electricity, communication, pumps,
etc., were all part of the state's responsibility, but now they are all
the people's responsibility. How will farmers, who have a difficult
time with simple reproduction, be able to shoulder what should be the
state's burden to provide public goods? Farmers' disposable cash income
is falling, as is their purchasing power. Rural markets are shrinking,
and TVEs (town and village enterprises) are having a rough time as rural
markets shrink. The four major state banks have retreated from rural
areas, and the inability of farmers to secure loans has become one of
the bottlenecks for rural development. The new generation of farmers no
longer feel a connection with the land, signaling that the age of
chaotic urban growth is set to begin.
3. Agricultural investment continues to drop, the natural environment in
rural areas is getting worse, farmers produce more and earn less, and
many villages are being pressured to return to self-sufficiency.
The central government increased its agricultural investment, but
provincial, city, county and township governments, heavily in debt
(rural townships alone owe 230 billion yuan in debt) and under pressure
to issue wages to their millions of bloated staff, prevented this money
from reaching the countryside. Since the 1990s, hundreds of millions of
hours of labor were mobilized each year to undertake infrastructure

Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Castro Turns 78 Rolling Back Capitalism in Cuba Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:16
AM ET
By Anthony Boadle
HAVANA (Reuters) - Cuban President Fidel Castro turns 78 on Friday
striving to roll back creeping capitalism in the socialist society he
built from a guerrilla revolution in 1959.
The world's longest-serving Communist leader has belied forecasts of his
demise since the collapse of the Soviet Union deprived the Caribbean
island of billions of dollars in subsidies and plunged its 11 million
people into economic hardship.
Fidel, like his country, has continued to defy the odds, said Canadian
historian and Cuba expert John Kirk, a professor at Dalhousie University
in Halifax.
Still remarkably lucid at 78, despite slowing down noticeably, he
clearly remains determined to stay around and protect the revolutionary
legacy of Cuba, Kirk said.
Ten summers ago, angered by shortages and long power cuts, Cubans took
to the streets, smashed shop windows and looted central Havana stores in
an unprecedented outburst of unrest.
Castro, dressed in his trademark green uniform, showed up in a military
jeep to quell the riots with his charismatic presence. Cubans, who had
been shouting against the government minutes before, began chanting
Viva Fidel.
Castro released simmering social pressures by letting tens of thousands
of Cubans take to sea in flimsy rafts bound for the United States.
Also in response to the economic crisis, from 1993 he reluctantly
allowed limited private enterprise and legalized the U.S. dollar to ease
economic hardship, while opening up Cuba to tourism and foreign investment.
A decade later, Cuba's one-party Communist government is retrenching and
reasserting state control over the economy. It has cut back permits for
private traders and small businesses and has begun strengthening its
hold over state corporations, especially in tourism, the island's main
source of hard currency. There, military officers have moved into key posts.
Foreign investment has slowed to a trickle, and discouraged investors
complain they don't feel welcome anymore as officials move to reverse
market-oriented reforms.
HORRIFIED BY CHINA
Western observers said Castro was shocked by the rapid move to
capitalism and growing social differences he witnessed in China last year.
There is no coincidence that a lot of this has happened since he
visited China. Many people say he was horrified with what he saw, said
a European ambassador.
He is the sort of man who does not want to see his legacy diluted in
his lifetime, the diplomat said, adding that Castro was probably
unaware of the extent of social decay in Cuba.
Cuba's free education, health care and social safety net are seen as a
model by many poor developing countries. Its literacy and infant
mortality rates are on a par with rich nations.
Castro's critics say that comes at the expense of freedom. Most Cubans
are forced to scrape a living together, cope with bad housing and poor
public services. Furthermore, they cannot leave Cuba at will and dissent
is stamped out, the critics say.
Facing growing discontent over economic difficulties, Castro last year
ordered the arrest of 75 dissidents who were sentenced to jail terms of
up to 28 years for conspiring with Washington.
Repression of a budding opposition movement and the execution by
firing-squad of three men who tried to hijack a ferry to leave Cuba
brought international outrage that led to a diplomatic freeze with the
European Union that deepened Havana's isolation.
Increased efforts by the Bush administration to oust the Cuban leader
and prepare for a transition to democracy have only served to goad him
to dig his heels in, said Kirk.
With the economy in better shape than a decade ago, Cuba's conservatives
no longer feel the need to make concessions by opening up the economy,
and retrenchment will continue, he said.
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Re: Continuing China fever

2004-08-10 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Peter Olney of the Institute for Labor and Employment in CA has written on
the need for organized labor in the U.S. to hone its domestic sights on what
the FT reporter termed the “global hub-and-spoke network (which) is designed
to link hundreds of towns and cities with an overnight communications
infrastructure that keeps the world's “just-in-time” supply chain taut.”  As
Michael noted, state Dems saved the ILE from Gov. Arnold’s budget knife.
Seth Sandronsky
Date:Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:23:22 -0400
From:Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Continuing China fever
Today's Financial Times offers more dramatic evidence of how China has
become the new beacon for Western-based multinationals. It describes the
fierce struggle for dominance being waged over control of the lucrative
China-US air cargo trade by FedEx, UPS, and European carriers like
DHL --somewhat reminiscent of earlier competition over the sea trade lanes.
The air cargo battle is being waged at both ends - in China, for customers
and distribution hubs, and in the US, for landing rights.
The article is another illustration of how “from iconic multinationals such
as General Motors, General Electric and Goldman Sachs, to specialists such
as Home Depot or Avon, almost every significant chief executive has Chinese
expansion plans at the top of his or her to-do list...lately the level of
interest has begun to feel more like an obsession.”
The looming cloud on the horizon, of course, is the potential collapse of
the US dollar, on which this booming export trade depends. But the parallel
rapid development of the Chinese domestic market lends support to the view
that if the 19th century belonged to Britain and the 20th century to the US,
the 21st may well belong to China.
Marv Gandall
---
Midnight in Memphis, new dawn in China
By Dan Roberts
Financial Times
August 9 2004
High over the Pacific Ocean, flight FX 24 from Shanghai to Memphis is one of
the most closely monitored aircraft entering US airspace. Every night the
Federal Express cargo jet is packed with 77 tonnes of digital cameras,
mobile phones and other high-value electronics that make it the company's
single largest source of revenue and a significant contributor to America's
ballooning trade deficit.
Until recently the top priority route for FedEx was its daily flight from
Tokyo, which carries express packages from all over Asia. But as with most
big US companies, FedEx's attention is increasingly focused on one market:
China.
Corporate America's interest in the world's most populous nation is nothing
new - China's dramatic economic boom has aroused growing curiosity from US
boardrooms for several years. But lately the level of interest has begun to
feel more like an obsession.
During Wall Street's last round of quarterly earnings announcements, few
large companies got very far into their conference calls with analysts
before the subject of China came up. From iconic multinationals such as
General Motors, General Electric and Goldman Sachs, to specialists such as
Home Depot or Avon, almost every significant chief executive has Chinese
expansion plans at the top of his or her to-do list.
As domestic US growth shows signs of slowing and Europe's recovery remains
relatively subdued, business leaders in the world's largest economy are
determined not to miss China's potential contribution to the bottom line.
Rising profits from China play an essential part in many analysts' financial
modelling for this year and next.
There are plenty of potential problems. Many smaller companies still view
China predominantly as a threat. European and Japanese multinationals are
queueing to claim their share of the prize. And it is not yet clear how far
Beijing may be prepared to welcome foreign competition for Chinese companies
in some sectors. One way to take the pulse of corporate America's love
affair with all things Chinese is to watch the elaborate mating game being
played out by companies such as FedEx.
Express cargo aircraft are the clipper ships of the modern age, carrying 2
per cent of international trade measured by volume but 50 per cent measured
by value. In the early hours of a sticky Tennessee night more than 80 of
these aircraft an hour descend into FedEx's global hub at Memphis, making it
the busiest cargo airport in the world. A military-style “command and
control” centre ensures that, no matter how bad the thunderstorms get over
the Midwest, the valuable flights from Asia are always the last to be
diverted or cancelled.
But the express logistics industry is about more than just ferrying cargo
back and forth. A global hub-and-spoke network is designed to link hundreds
of towns and cities with an overnight communications infrastructure that
keeps the world's “just-in-time” supply chain taut. In developed markets
such as the US, the ability to guarantee overnight shipment of parts and
finished goods has allowed companies to reduce average inventory levels by a
fifth over

Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-10 Thread Charles Brown

by Louis Proyect

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He is the sort of man who does not want to see his legacy diluted in
his lifetime, the diplomat said, adding that Castro was probably
unaware of the extent of social decay in Cuba.

^^
CB: Social decay in Cuba or China ?


Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-10 Thread Louis Proyect
My guess is that this is a reference to prostitution in Cuba.
Charles Brown wrote:
by Louis Proyect
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He is the sort of man who does not want to see his legacy diluted in
his lifetime, the diplomat said, adding that Castro was probably
unaware of the extent of social decay in Cuba.
^^
CB: Social decay in Cuba or China ?
.

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Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-10 Thread Waistline2


HORRIFIED BY CHINA 

Western observers said Castro was shocked by the rapid move to capitalism and growing social differences he witnessed in China last year. 

"There is no coincidence that a lot of this has happened since he visited China. Many people say he was horrified with what he saw," said a European ambassador. 

Comment 

Someone said that Castro said something . . . and with my dumb ass I thought this thread might be about something that FidelCastro (the paramount leader) had stated . . . instead of someone saying that Castro said something . . . about China. 

From my standpoint the conversation concerning China gets loud because of the lack of concrete economic and political data. Then ideology parades as insight. 

Last December insurance giant China Life completed the largest initial public offering in the world, raising US$3.46 billion, after raising allotments and pricing shares at the high end of estimates. 

In terms of the "capitalism or socialism" debate around China . . . and I am of the opinion that China has the largest socialist economy on earth in real time . . . and yes . . . the bourgeois property relations also exists in China . . . hard economic data and economic logic and insight is hard to come by. 

Dig China Life . . . an insurance company . . . that drew billions of dollars to it in an environment where interest payments from banks can be as small as 1/100 of 1 percent . . . annually. 

If China's non agricultural workforce is between 350 and 400 million . . . with roughly 100 million in the NON STATE SECTOR . . . then the question becomes what is the economic meaning of state sector and non state sector in China? 

Let's forget about the 800 million in agriculture . . . who under the best conditions of industrial socialism ... can only alienate their products on the basis of exchange . . . no matter what the form of property in land. 

What is the non state sector in respects to say China Life? 

Check out the following excerpt about China Life . . . and then ponder the question is China socialism or capitalism? 

Excerpt . . . begins here. 

China Life, like most companies China opens to overseas investors, is state-owned. It's been sliced and diced to create a Frankenstein offering of selected viable parts in order to pass muster with regulators and tempt investors. Bolted on to the top of this monster as its brain is the State Council of the People's Republic of China. The State Council has many constituencies to satisfy, and foreign investors will never climb very high on its list. That's because no foreign investor can threaten the Communist Party's monopoly on power the way domestic rivals or mass unrest might. Foreigners also get limited respect since investors keep falling over themselves to get a piece of the Chinese dream, as they have for the past century and a half. If the Chinese leadership had a good deal to offer, ask yourself, why would they offer it to you and the rest of the overseas investing public? That view may seem outdated, looking at the China that Deng invented and Zhu Rongji revved into the world's fastest-growing nation for a decade. But two other incidents last week, providing background music for flipping your China Life shares, indicate that the political leadership remains intimately involved with the economy in pursuit of its own interests. China's leading car maker, Shanghai Automobile Industrial Corp (SAIC), wants to buy South Korea's Ssangyong Motor, that nation's fourth-largest surviving car company with a dominant position in sport-utility vehicles. But China National Blue Star Group, a chemical company that provides some supplies to the auto industry, likes what it's seen of China's booming car market enough to make its own bid for Ssangyong. This high-stakes acquisition contest didn't play out in the offices of Ssangyong's bankers or lawyers, but in a Beijing meeting of China's National Development and Reform Commission, a body that reports directly to the State Council. As with any good political decision, both companies apparently left the meeting thinking they'd won the nod to bid for Ssangyong. In a wise saying that anyone tempted to think of China as just another economy ought to frame and hang on the wall, a Blue Star spokesman declared: "The Chinese government treats all companies equally - SAIC is state-owned and we are state-owned. This is a market economy, not a planned system." One with distinctly Chinese characteristics, though. This dispute between Chinese suitors will more likely result in heartaches for Ssangyong's sellers rather than a higher price. Whoever winds up with Ssangyong, the new Chinese State owners probably will continue to play by rules that suit themselves. (State-controlled companies, such as Singapore Telecom, buying assets overseas raise a host of competitive and even security questions to be examined in a future column. That Europe has the most experience with su

Continuing China fever

2004-08-09 Thread Marvin Gandall
Today's Financial Times offers more dramatic evidence of how China has
become the new beacon for Western-based multinationals. It describes the
fierce struggle for dominance being waged over control of the lucrative
China-US air cargo trade by FedEx, UPS, and European carriers like
DHL --somewhat reminiscent of earlier competition over the sea trade lanes.
The air cargo battle is being waged at both ends - in China, for customers
and distribution hubs, and in the US, for landing rights.

The article is another illustration of how from iconic multinationals such
as General Motors, General Electric and Goldman Sachs, to specialists such
as Home Depot or Avon, almost every significant chief executive has Chinese
expansion plans at the top of his or her to-do list...lately the level of
interest has begun to feel more like an obsession.

The looming cloud on the horizon, of course, is the potential collapse of
the US dollar, on which this booming export trade depends. But the parallel
rapid development of the Chinese domestic market lends support to the view
that if the 19th century belonged to Britain and the 20th century to the US,
the 21st may well belong to China.

Marv Gandall
---
Midnight in Memphis, new dawn in China
By Dan Roberts
Financial Times
August 9 2004

High over the Pacific Ocean, flight FX 24 from Shanghai to Memphis is one of
the most closely monitored aircraft entering US airspace. Every night the
Federal Express cargo jet is packed with 77 tonnes of digital cameras,
mobile phones and other high-value electronics that make it the company's
single largest source of revenue and a significant contributor to America's
ballooning trade deficit.

Until recently the top priority route for FedEx was its daily flight from
Tokyo, which carries express packages from all over Asia. But as with most
big US companies, FedEx's attention is increasingly focused on one market:
China.

Corporate America's interest in the world's most populous nation is nothing
new - China's dramatic economic boom has aroused growing curiosity from US
boardrooms for several years. But lately the level of interest has begun to
feel more like an obsession.

During Wall Street's last round of quarterly earnings announcements, few
large companies got very far into their conference calls with analysts
before the subject of China came up. From iconic multinationals such as
General Motors, General Electric and Goldman Sachs, to specialists such as
Home Depot or Avon, almost every significant chief executive has Chinese
expansion plans at the top of his or her to-do list.

As domestic US growth shows signs of slowing and Europe's recovery remains
relatively subdued, business leaders in the world's largest economy are
determined not to miss China's potential contribution to the bottom line.
Rising profits from China play an essential part in many analysts' financial
modelling for this year and next.

There are plenty of potential problems. Many smaller companies still view
China predominantly as a threat. European and Japanese multinationals are
queueing to claim their share of the prize. And it is not yet clear how far
Beijing may be prepared to welcome foreign competition for Chinese companies
in some sectors. One way to take the pulse of corporate America's love
affair with all things Chinese is to watch the elaborate mating game being
played out by companies such as FedEx.

Express cargo aircraft are the clipper ships of the modern age, carrying 2
per cent of international trade measured by volume but 50 per cent measured
by value. In the early hours of a sticky Tennessee night more than 80 of
these aircraft an hour descend into FedEx's global hub at Memphis, making it
the busiest cargo airport in the world. A military-style command and
control centre ensures that, no matter how bad the thunderstorms get over
the Midwest, the valuable flights from Asia are always the last to be
diverted or cancelled.

But the express logistics industry is about more than just ferrying cargo
back and forth. A global hub-and-spoke network is designed to link hundreds
of towns and cities with an overnight communications infrastructure that
keeps the world's just-in-time supply chain taut. In developed markets
such as the US, the ability to guarantee overnight shipment of parts and
finished goods has allowed companies to reduce average inventory levels by a
fifth over the last decade and is thought to have played a significant role
in improving productivity across the economy (see charts).

It is for this reason, above all else, that FedEx and rivals such as United
Parcel Service and DHL are paying so much attention to China. As it becomes
the workshop of the world, teeming factories along the Pearl and Yangtze
river deltas represent both the start of the world's supply chain and the
source of some its biggest transport bottlenecks.

Growing recognition of this fact has also helped to spark interest among
Chinese government officials

Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Chris Doss wrote:

For the NYT or WP, everything bad that happens in
China or Russia is the result of a nefarious plot
hatched in Beijing or Moscow. For the life of me I
can't understand why people who would be
hypersceptical over these papers' coverage of, say,
Venezuela cite them as impeachable sources on other
parts of the world.

Louis Proyect replied:

This comes as no surprise.

C'mon, cut it out.

If you aren't surprised, then perhaps you should not answer at all?
End the dialogue? Work to end his verbal oppression through action?
Refuse to consent to his comment? Overcome?

Yet you continue:

You have stated publicly on LBO-Talk that
censorship was not a problem in the USSR
and that people could read whatever they
want. You also quote liberally from the ,
which fails to meet Rupert Murdoch's
standards by all accounts.

Putinite press -- You quote from all kinds of things, yourself, Louis.
As suits your needs. The news media is not monolithic. The owners are.
Because you've never been published in newsmedia, you may not understand
the pressure. The staff are just like other workers. So spare me your
blanket generalizations.

 the Monthly Review article I was reviewing

Another book report from Louis. (No need, here, of course, for blanket
generalizations here about the class of people contributing to the
Monthly Review.)

Finally, it does not surprise me that you would take
the side of the Chinese government against an investigative
piece that ran in the NY Times.

Heh. It doesn't surprise me you like the NY Times.

You liberal, you. :)

Ken.

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from a boot if the instructions were
written on the heel.
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Waistline2



I . . .uhhEye against IFlesh of my flesh and 
Mind of my mind.Two of a kind but one won't survive.The 
image is reflect in my enemy eyes and my image is reflect in his the 
same time. Right here is where the end gonna start 
at.Conflict . . . contact . . . call back.Fighter stand where 
the land is marked at . . .Settle the dispute about who 
the livest. . . Free world says who ever survive 
this. Only one of us can arrive foreverSo you and I 
can't ride together.We can't live or die together . . 
.All we can do is collide together.So I skillfully apply 
the pressure . . . won't stop til i'm 
forever.ONE!A door step where death never 
comesSpread across time . . . til my time never 
done.And I'm never doneWalk tall why . . . every run . . 
.When they moveth . . . I ever come.Bad man never fret 
warGeneral we have the stock the mad fire burn. 
I . . .uhhEye against IFlesh of my flesh and Mind 
of my mind.Two of a kind but one won't survive.The image is 
reflect in my enemy eyes and my image is reflect in his the same 
time. Who am IOne man squadron Man stir the fire 
that snatches your tomorrow.The thousand yard spear that pierces 
your armor . . .YOU CAN GET IT ON RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT 
TO.But when you front now . . .get marched 
throughI warned you.You know who forever belongs to. 
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Doss
I would never have read this if it hadn't been
referenced by Kenneth.

You have stated publicly on LBO-Talk that
censorship was not a problem in the USSR
and that people could read whatever they
want. You also quote liberally from the ,
which fails to meet Rupert Murdoch's
standards by all accounts

Virtually nothing was banned in the USSR. It was not
imported or printed, but that is not the same thing.
Just ask Wojtek Sokolowski. The same was true in
Poland.

What does it mean to quote liberally from the ,?



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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Doss
Putinite press -- You quote from all kinds of
things, yourself,
Louis.
-

How does somebody who doesn't read Russian know jack
shit about the Russian press, Putinite are
otherwise? How lame. That's not how the Russian media
work. Anyway that's my last word on the subject.



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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Doss
All right, one final word and then I am outta here.
The inanity of that statement is breathtaking. I
worked for the Russia Journal for three years.
(Actually I am somewhat proud of the fact that the
eXile praised my editorials. That's pretty rare.) I
think I know how the Russian media work.

Putinoid. How lame. How New York Times.

--- Chris Doss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Putinite press -- You quote from all kinds of
 things, yourself,
 Louis.
 -

 How does somebody who doesn't read Russian know jack
 shit about the Russian press, Putinite are
 otherwise? How lame. That's not how the Russian
 media
 work. Anyway that's my last word on the subject.



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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Doss wrote:
Virtually nothing was banned in the USSR.
The Washington Post
July 20, 2002 Saturday
Soviet Dissident Alexander Ginzburg Dies
BYLINE: Martin Weil, Washington Post Staff Writer
Alexander Ginzburg, 65, who was persecuted, imprisoned and exiled as a
leader of the dissident intellectual movement that worked for human
rights and individual freedom in the Soviet Union, died July 19 in Paris.
Mr. Ginzburg is often credited with being a founder of the Samizdat, or
self-publishing movement, by which intellectuals put forward their ideas
and challenged government repression.
The Associated Press attributed reports of Mr. Ginzburg's death to
Russian news accounts. No cause of death was given. After being expelled
from the Soviet Union, Mr. Ginzburg came first to the United States, and
then made France a base for writing, lecturing and worldwide campaigning.
The courage and dedication of the dissident movement -- including such
figures as Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nathan Shcharansky and Andrei
Sakharov -- have been described as important to the ultimate downfall of
Soviet communism and the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Individual loose sheets -- often poetry, typed, handwritten and copied
by duplicating machine -- began appearing in Moscow a few years after
Stalin's death. Mr. Ginzburg, was credited with the creation in 1960 of
what was considered the first magazine to circumvent the Soviet
government's publishing monopoly.
The magazine's name has been translated as Syntax, or Syntaxis, and on
its pages appeared underground intellectuals, writers and poets not
officially sanctioned by the government, taking sly aim, through
literary techniques, at some of the abuses and hypocrisies of the Soviet
regime.
It lasted only a few issues, but the authorities recognized Mr.
Ginzburg's work with a two-year prison sentence. In 1965, dissident
writers Andrei Sinyavsky and Yuli Daniel were arrested, and they went on
trial the next year. In the White Book, Mr. Ginzburg offered an
account of what the dissidents viewed as a blatantly political prosecution.
This drew greater worldwide attention to Soviet repression and helped
amplify the voices of the dissidents. For Mr. Ginzburg, it brought a
closed trial and new five-year prison term.
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Perelman
End of thread!  Why can you just discuss things without getting nasty and bringing up
material from other lists?
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Jonathan Lassen
Thanks LP for posting the review of Hart-Landsberg and Burkett's long MR
piece. I just picked up a copy yesterday, and have been looking it over.
I've got my own little quibbles with it (not enough emphasis on rural
China, which I think is desperately important right now, they lump
pre-1976 China together as 'Maoist' China, etc.), but personally I think
it's a very welcome and timely piece. I hope it continues to spark
debate and interest.
Many of the (reposted) digs against Hart-Landsberg and Burkett seem
wildly off the mark. The duo are mainly concerned about people using
China as a progressive model of development. Few in the US do, but I
think there is a growing sense in other parts of the world that China
offers a viable alternative to neoliberalism. Particularly when China
works together with Brazil and other countries in the Group of 77.
Stiglitz seems to be in this category, and you'll find lots of this in
UN orgs and other wonky progressive orgs.
To counter this, Hart-Landsberg and Burkett try to show how bad things
are in China for the working class. It's not the whole story, but it's
hard to deny, and it's only going to get worse. I think we should be
getting ready for this debate. When these kind of news stories - see
below - appear (and we're only hearing about this one because one of the
villagers was able to get to the internet), perhaps we should pause and
look a bit closer at what's going on. The way that these contradictions
are either displaced, resolved, or sublated will have, IMO, a
wide-reaching influence on how the 21st Century plays out, just as they
did last century.
Jonathan
-
 Villagers vow to fight on in face of police assault
Joint owners want to overturn the sale of 150 hectares worth 40 million
yuan
 SCMP | 3 aug
Villagers in Henan province vowed to continue their fight for justice
after police intervened at the weekend to quell their protest over land
sales, leaving several people injured and four detained.
What we ask for is simple: return our land and punish the corrupt
village officials, said a villager surnamed Liu, whose mother was
injured in the raid and was being treated yesterday for gunshot wounds.
Mr Liu, 22, said the district government had sent about 400 officials to
Shijiahe village in Zhengzhou city to try to stop the villagers from
petitioning.
About 600 police armed with tear gas, shotguns, dogs and electric
batons raided the village last Saturday looking for the organisers of
protests against land sales approved by village head Liu Guo-zhao. At
least 30 people were injured and four detained in the incident, Mr Liu
said. Most of the injured cannot even afford to go to hospital.
Villagers strongly opposed the land deal, which involved 150 hectares of
farmland worth up to 40 million yuan and owned by more than 6,000 of
them, Mr Liu said.
They had protested since June and sent their petitions to the city and
provincial governments but had not received any response.
A district government team went to the village about three weeks ago
after villagers threatened to hold a protest in Beijing.
The incident police raid happened on the same day the team had promised
to release an investigation result, Mr Liu said. The team disappeared
from the village before the police arrived.
He said local government representatives had visited his mother, one of
the four still in hospital.
It was merely a show. They did not even bother to visit the other
victims who were in other wards, he said. They tried to give my mother
1,000 yuan for medical care, but we refused to accept it because we knew
their real intention was to stop us from petitioning any further. My
mother said, 'We don't need your money now. Let us wait until the
problem is resolved'.
Mr Liu, who works in Zhengzhou, posted a report of the incident and his
mobile phone number on an overseas Chinese website on Sunday. He said
yesterday that internet police had phoned him and he dared not return
home for fear of further police harassment.
An official from the Huiji district government publicity department
confirmed that a group of officials had been sent to Shijiahe village to
deal with the dispute.
Most of our staff from the relevant departments are in the village
now, he said. They have been working on the dispute ever since it
started. The incident is still under investigation ... and things are
going in the right direction.
The official denied a report that the village head had been placed in
shuanggui, a disciplinary measure outside the regular legal system under
which party members are detained and interrogated.
A Zhengzhou city government spokeswoman said the fact that no local
media had covered the story proved the sensitivity of the case.
We cannot give any comment, not because it is a secret; we need time to
clarify the facts, she said.


China Study Group

2004-08-03 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jonathan Lassen writes:

Thanks LP for posting the review of Hart-Landsberg and
Burkett's long MR piece. I just picked up a copy
yesterday, and have been looking it over. I've got my
own little quibbles with it (not enough emphasis on rural
China, which I think is desperately important right now, they lump
pre-1976 China together as 'Maoist' China, etc.), but
personally I think it's a very welcome and timely piece.
I hope it continues to spark debate and interest.

I do not like to diminish the MR. Just... put it in perspective. Who
funds it? Have you met the people who do?

(I have met some of them.)

Likewise, with groups using .orgs.

So, here, to save reader's time, is from the Web site of China Group:

China Study Group is a New York based non-profit organization
formed in 1995 to facilitate networking of scholars/activists,
and promote dissemination of info and research works,

Another New York intelligentsia leftist group.

Without roots, perhaps, based on the self-description:

Members of the CSG support the broad goals of the Chinese
revolution that triumphed in 1949, and seek to stimulate
knowledge and debate regarding its achievements and
limitations, as well as to offer a critical perspective of the
radical changes that have occurred in China over the past 25
years and an ongoing analysis of its role in the world today.

No mention of the money, though. Are these rich people in the CSG
support?

My guess is -- and this is prejudicial against me, not you -- that these
people are academics or dilettantes without any roots in the cultures
they write about. (Only a guess.)

Nonetheless, China exists without the CSG, so, please, do not interpret
my skeptical view of information from the CSG as a refutation of China.
I think China might possibly be there for a long time -- even without
me.

Ken.

--
I am the passenger
And I ride and I ride
I ride through the city's backside
I see the stars come out of the sky
Yeah, they're bright in a hollow sky
You know it looks so good tonight
  -- The Passenger
 Iggy Pop, 1977


Re: China Study Group

2004-08-03 Thread Jonathan Lassen
Hi Kenneth Campbell,
Who funds Monthly Review? I have no idea.
I do know a bit about China Study Group, since I work with them. The
annual budget is about 100 dollars, which is what the website costs. All
the labor is volunteer.
 My guess is -- and this is prejudicial against me, not you -- that these
 people are academics or dilettantes without any roots in the cultures
 they write about. (Only a guess.)
Some are academics, most are not. Most of the members are from China.
None are dilettantes.
Cheers,
Jonathan
 wrote:
Jonathan Lassen writes:

Thanks LP for posting the review of Hart-Landsberg and
Burkett's long MR piece. I just picked up a copy
yesterday, and have been looking it over. I've got my
own little quibbles with it (not enough emphasis on rural
China, which I think is desperately important right now, they lump
pre-1976 China together as 'Maoist' China, etc.), but
personally I think it's a very welcome and timely piece.
I hope it continues to spark debate and interest.

I do not like to diminish the MR. Just... put it in perspective. Who
funds it? Have you met the people who do?
(I have met some of them.)
Likewise, with groups using .orgs.
So, here, to save reader's time, is from the Web site of China Group:
China Study Group is a New York based non-profit organization
formed in 1995 to facilitate networking of scholars/activists,
and promote dissemination of info and research works,
Another New York intelligentsia leftist group.
Without roots, perhaps, based on the self-description:
Members of the CSG support the broad goals of the Chinese
revolution that triumphed in 1949, and seek to stimulate
knowledge and debate regarding its achievements and
limitations, as well as to offer a critical perspective of the
radical changes that have occurred in China over the past 25
years and an ongoing analysis of its role in the world today.
No mention of the money, though. Are these rich people in the CSG
support?
My guess is -- and this is prejudicial against me, not you -- that these
people are academics or dilettantes without any roots in the cultures
they write about. (Only a guess.)
Nonetheless, China exists without the CSG, so, please, do not interpret
my skeptical view of information from the CSG as a refutation of China.
I think China might possibly be there for a long time -- even without
me.
Ken.
--
I am the passenger
And I ride and I ride
I ride through the city's backside
I see the stars come out of the sky
Yeah, they're bright in a hollow sky
You know it looks so good tonight
  -- The Passenger
 Iggy Pop, 1977


Re: China Study Group

2004-08-03 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Hi Kenneth Campbell,

Hi Jonathan Lassen!

Who funds Monthly Review? I have no idea.

I have an idea... grin. But I love the publication, nonetheless.

I do know a bit about China Study Group, since I work with them. The
annual budget is about 100 dollars, which is what the website
costs. All the labor is volunteer.

Okay... that sounds noble. Volunteer labour is in most things -- like
Christian summer camps.

Some are academics, most are not. Most of the members are from
China. None are dilettantes.

As I hope you understood, I meant no offence. China needs no help from
us.

Ken.

--
An important scientific innovation rarely makes
its way by gradually winning over and converting
its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes
Paul.  What does happen is that its opponents
gradually die out and that the growing generation
is familiarized with the idea from the beginning.
  -- Max Planck


Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Joel Wendland
Jonathan Lassen wrote:
When these kind of news stories - see below - appear (and we're only
hearing about this one because one of  the villagers was able to get to the
internet), perhaps we should pause and look a bit closer at what's going
on. The way that these Contradictions
are either displaced, resolved, or sublated will have, IMO, a wide-reaching
influence on how the 21st Century plays out, just as  they did last
century.
Jonathan
-
 Villagers vow to fight on in face of police assault
—Joint owners want to overturn the sale of 150 hectares worth 40 million
yuan
 SCMP | 3 aug
Villagers in Henan province vowed to continue their fight for justice
after police intervened at the weekend to quell their protest over land
sales, leaving several people injured and four detained.
Is this particular story emblematic of the restoration of capitalism,
though? Isn't it true that this kind of event took place in pre-reform China
-- and not necessarily to benefit the working and toiling classes? We expect
to see it in capitalist countries, of course. In a socialist country,
however, where the working class is the dominant social strata, one might
expect it not to happen.
My question is, to what extent is political repression in China the result
of a one-party system that had/s(?) the tendency to disallow dissenting
opinions and/or the insistence on a single path to socialism (if that kind
of rhetoric is allowable), or a political culture (not meant in the
anthropological sense) generated by a cultural-revolution-type atmosphere
rather than a restoration of capitalism? I think some parallels are easily
made with the Soviet Union and the means to an end mentality of some on
the left in that one-party system, considering that it doesn't exist
anymore.
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-03 Thread Jonathan Lassen
Joel Wendland wrote:
Is this particular story emblematic of the restoration of capitalism,
though? Isn't it true that this kind of event took place in pre-reform
China
-- and not necessarily to benefit the working and toiling classes? We
expect
to see it in capitalist countries, of course.
The pre-reform, post-revolutionary state in China did not resort to
organized violence in order secure land for industrial purposes. They
had sufficient legitimacy and power so that violence was not necessary.
The violence associated with land grabs is very much a recent problem,
developing since the late 90s as far as I know.
In a socialist country,
however, where the working class is the dominant social strata, one might
expect it not to happen.
China's working class may be the majority in urban China, but I don't
think anyone would consider them dominant.
My question is, to what extent is political repression in China the result
of a one-party system that had/s(?) the tendency to disallow dissenting
opinions and/or the insistence on a single path to socialism (if that kind
of rhetoric is allowable), or a political culture (not meant in the
anthropological sense) generated by a cultural-revolution-type atmosphere
rather than a restoration of capitalism?
I don't think you can separate the current development/restoration of
capitalism and repression in China. People living in non-capitalist
social relations have to be drawn kicking and screaming into the loving
embrace of the 'market.' Chinese farmers don't want to be locked cages
and thrown back into the 19th century. The corrupt bureaucratic class of
China's countryside is the underground pump for the sea of factories
that produce an increasingly large chunk of social materiality on this
planet. This can only be accomplished under the most ruthless of
dictatorships, regardless of the appearence of the political system.
The current 'political culture' in China has been generated by the
Cultural Revolution only in a negative way. Dengism was the conscious
rejection of everything Maoist, particularly the Cultural Revolution. It
emerged as the victorious ideology only after Mao's death, and the
failure of the Cultural Revolution.
Cheers,
Jonathan


Re: China Study Group

2004-08-03 Thread Jonathan Lassen
Kenneth Campbell wrote:
As I hope you understood, I meant no offence. China needs no help from
us.
I'm not sure why China provokes such strong feelings of
separateness/alienation.
Let's all just stay in our hermetically sealed container-states, it's
much safer.
JL


Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Chris Doss
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The first rule of politics for political leaders on
the side of the proletariat in the American Union is
that if the New York Times or Washington Post run a
story on China . . . position yourself in opposition
to it and you will be on the right side of the
polarity  . . . 90% of the time . . . always. A 10%
loss rate is acceptable for any political leader.

--
For the NYT or WP, everything bad that happens in
China or Russia is the result of a nefarious plot
hatched in Beijing or Moscow. For the life of me I
can't understand why people who would be
hypersceptical over these papers' coverage of, say,
Venezuela cite them as impeachable sources on other
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Waistline2



There are also reports of college students who jumped from 
high-rise dormitory buildings in protest of the governments timid "peaceful" 
policy over Taiwan independence. The suicide-protestors wanted the 
government to take Taiwan for force right now and stand up to US bullying. 


The report that an 18-year-old killed himself over lack of 
money to pay college fees proves only that 18-year-olds need better 
counseling. The fact of the matter is that 18-year-olds all over the world 
flirt with suicide for all kind of reasons, much of which tragically irrational 
and childish. 

As for whether China would be a good model for the rest of the 
Third World, let the people of the Third World decide for themselves. We don't 
need self-righteous academics in the West to pronounce what is an ideologically 
correct model for the Third World. The sad fact is that the Western left 
have done little for the Third World beyond destructive talk. Until members of 
the Western Left can control their own imperialists governments and improve the 
lot of the poor in their own societies, they had better be a bit more humble 
about what is correct. There is a lot about China that is not perfect and a lot 
of people within China are trying very hard to correct these problems. But 
believe me, poverty for all is a bad trade-off for ideological purity. 


The NY Times also printed other articles on China recently: 


The advent of the vacation is a relatively new 
phenomenon in China that coincides with the emergence of a new middle class with 
disposable income. Wealthy Chinese are now flocking to destinations around 
Southeast Asia and beyond. Others are exploring domestic sites like Qingdao, a 
popular getaway for people from Beijing. http://nytimes.com/2004/07/30/international/asia/30qing.html?adxnnl=1adxnnlx=1091444128-2e9057b7RGa7p+S9Pv+yyg 

New Boomtowns Change Path of China's Growth 

http://nytimes.com/2004/07/28/international/asia/28china.html 

South China Morning Post (HK) 7/30/04 

More are becoming upwardly mobile, but birth still counts 


Mainlanders' chances of social advancement through merit 
have improved in the past two decades, but birth still matters for those aiming 
for political careers. 

A report on social mobility by the Chinese Academy of Social 
Sciences released yesterday shows it is getting easier for mainlanders to 
upgrade their status within one generation. 

Before 1980, only 32 per cent of the workforce was able to 
find a job better than their fathers'. 

More than 60 per cent had no choice but to accept their 
parents' station. 

Since then, however, 40 per cent of working people have 
managed to advance professionally. 

Mainlanders are also changing between jobs more frequently 
that before. 

Before 1980, 86 per cent of the labour force never changed 
jobs throughout their working life. But from 1990 to 2000, 54 per cent took 
their chances and ventured out to seek new jobs. 

"The rapid development of the economy has created more 
occupational professions, and many of them are of high level," the report said. 


"The economic reform policy provides an institutional 
environment where people can improve their social class on their capabilities 
and merit. 

"As a result, Chinese society is becoming more open and 
mobile." 

But the report noted it was unlikely that a Bill Clinton or 
John Edwards - who were born into working-class families but rose to political 
prominence - would appear in China. 

To enter the "government official" occupational category, 
family background remains the determining factor. 

For every 100 people whose fathers are cadres, seven become 
government officials themselves. For workers, the ratio is one in 100; for 
farmers, even less than one. 

The work mainlanders covet the most is in "government and 
social administration", based on decades of polling by the academy. 


People tend to think this public service position will bring 
them power, the report says: "Without any doubts, cadres are the most powerful 
people in the country." 

But for those whose aspirations lie outside the political 
scope, their fates seem more in their own hands. 

Educational credentials rank as the No1 factor for a good 
career, the report says. College graduates have three times more opportunities 
in the job market than those who only have high school diplomas, even though the 
latter might come from better family backgrounds. 

But for well-educated rural people, prospects are less rosy. 
The urban registration system, which works to prevent rural people from moving 
freely into urban areas, still limits their work prospects. 

Three years ago, the academy caused an uproar when it 
published a study on how the composition of Chinese society had changed over the 
decades. It was seen by analysts as an effort by the leadership to embrace the 
rising private sector. 

But the study confirmed that the

Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Doss wrote:
For the NYT or WP, everything bad that happens in
China or Russia is the result of a nefarious plot
hatched in Beijing or Moscow. For the life of me I
can't understand why people who would be
hypersceptical over these papers' coverage of, say,
Venezuela cite them as impeachable sources on other
parts of the world.
This comes as no surprise. You have stated publicly on LBO-Talk that
censorship was not a problem in the USSR and that people could read
whatever they want. You also quote liberally from the Putinite press,
which fails to meet Rupert Murdoch's standards by all accounts. In fact,
the Monthly Review article I was reviewing includes a bunch of tables in
the appendix that confirms the NY Times report. Those tables are from
reliable sources. Finally, it does not surprise me that you would take
the side of the Chinese government against an investigative piece that
ran in the NY Times. This appears to be part of a pattern of defending
whatever Russia, India and China deem necessary in their scorched earth
march to fully developed capitalist property relations.
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Marvin Gandall
The problem, unfortunately, is there has never been anything other than a
scorched earth march to fully developed capitalist property
relations --anywhere, ever. Therefore, the issue becomes: is such a march
historically progressive, despite the human toll? Marx, of course, answered
in the affirmative in relation to pre-existing modes of development. You
know all this. Marx wasn't around to witness the failed experiments to leap
over the capitalist stage in both China and the USSR in the 20th century. I
now think he may well have repudiated these efforts, especially on seeing
the outcome, and interpreted the reversion to capitalism in each instance as
consistent with his theory. He was not ammoral and would have condemned the
massive social cost, but the moral dimension would have been subordinate to
his analysis, and I expect also that he would have seen the Stalinist
interlude as an effect rather than cause of these historical developments.

Marv Gandall


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Subject: Re: [PEN-L] China and socialism


 Chris Doss wrote:
  For the NYT or WP, everything bad that happens in
  China or Russia is the result of a nefarious plot
  hatched in Beijing or Moscow. For the life of me I
  can't understand why people who would be
  hypersceptical over these papers' coverage of, say,
  Venezuela cite them as impeachable sources on other
  parts of the world.

 This comes as no surprise. You have stated publicly on LBO-Talk that
 censorship was not a problem in the USSR and that people could read
 whatever they want. You also quote liberally from the Putinite press,
 which fails to meet Rupert Murdoch's standards by all accounts. In fact,
 the Monthly Review article I was reviewing includes a bunch of tables in
 the appendix that confirms the NY Times report. Those tables are from
 reliable sources. Finally, it does not surprise me that you would take
 the side of the Chinese government against an investigative piece that
 ran in the NY Times. This appears to be part of a pattern of defending
 whatever Russia, India and China deem necessary in their scorched earth
 march to fully developed capitalist property relations.

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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Marvin Gandall wrote:
The problem, unfortunately, is there has never been anything other than a
scorched earth march to fully developed capitalist property
relations --anywhere, ever. Therefore, the issue becomes: is such a march
historically progressive, despite the human toll? Marx, of course, answered
in the affirmative in relation to pre-existing modes of development. You
know all this.
I recommend that you read Theodor Shanin's Late Marx, which makes a
convincing case that Marx rejected the notion of universal models of
development. Kautsky, of course, ignored the late Marx and reimposed
this schema on Marxism. Lenin returned to the late Marx when he drafted
the April Theses, which rejected the notion of a capitalist stage for
Russia.
Marx wasn't around to witness the failed experiments to leap
over the capitalist stage in both China and the USSR in the 20th century. I
now think he may well have repudiated these efforts, especially on seeing
the outcome, and interpreted the reversion to capitalism in each instance as
consistent with his theory. He was not ammoral and would have condemned the
massive social cost, but the moral dimension would have been subordinate to
his analysis, and I expect also that he would have seen the Stalinist
interlude as an effect rather than cause of these historical developments.
I see that you omit Cuba in this 2 sentence panorama of the last 100
years. Highly revealing.
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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Jonathan Lassen
South China Morning Post, Aug. 2
Police shoot villagers in land dispute, report says
by: Staff Reporter
Dozens of people in Shijiahe village in Zhengzhou, Henan province, were
reportedly injured yesterday when police arrested troublemakers who
had organised protests over land deals approved by village leaders.
Chinesenewsnet.com, an overseas-based Chinese affairs website, carried a
message posted by a family member saying about 600 policemen surrounded
the village in the early hours yesterday to arrest villagers who were
identified as troublemakers.
The villagers had complained that village leaders had pocketed the
proceeds from the land deals. Armed with tear gas, shotguns, dogs and
electric batons, the police confronted unarmed villagers who tried to
stop them from taking the troublemakers away, the message said.
As a result, more than 30 people suffered gunshot wounds and six were
seriously hurt.
The message did not say how many villagers or troublemakers had been
arrested but said the injured villagers were being treated in a hospital
in Zhengzhou.
The report said the villagers opposed the land sale, which involved
investment of as much as 40 million yuan.


Re: China and socialism . . . yea . . . when it all fall down

2004-08-02 Thread Waistline2



The problem, unfortunately, is there has never been 
anything other than a "scorched earth march to fully developed capitalist 
property relations" --anywhere, ever. Therefore, the issue becomes: is such a 
march historically progressive, despite the human toll? Marx, of course, 
answered in the affirmative in relation to pre-existing modes of development. 
You know all this. Marx wasn't around to witness the failed experiments to leap 
over the capitalist stage in both China and the USSR in the 20th 
century.

Comment 

When it all falls down the ceiling crashes on everyone head 
without regard to the politics or ideology contained in each head. Without 
question industrial society and all its boundaries of development set the basis 
and stage for the communist society Marx spoke of. After many years of 
considering these questions . . . my own personal opinion is that the communists 
were more than less doomed by the constrain of the last boundary of history . . 
. especially so . . . in the absence of public property relations in the 
advanced industrial countries. 

Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Mao ZeDung, Uncle Ho and the paramount 
leader Fidel are not causes but effects and as such are banners or direction of 
a particular detachmentof communist leaders. 

Nor could social revolution be exported to the advance 
industrially developed countries. And we most certainly could not carry out 
insurrection in the absence of social revolution in America. To the same degree 
this is what the Soviets faced and also China. 

Yes, the Great October Revolution was socialist . . . meaning 
its leaders held a vision of communism but above all it was the acceleration of 
the industrial revolution with all its consequences for market exchange and the 
law of value. The goal of communism has never been public property but the 
abolish of property on the basis of its last historically evolved form . . . 
bourgeois property. One cannot have this as a practical task in a more than less 
agricultural society. 

I have arrived at the conclusion that the key to what happened 
in the Soviet Union and what is taking place in China resides in our own 
history. Not in the sense of us overthrowing the bourgeoisie but curve of 
development. 

No one beats the machine of history and overthrowing a 
bureaucratic order is impossible until history steps into the social arena and 
erode the basis upon which an "order" is established. China is more complex 
because it was a national democratic revolution led by communists. The National 
Democratic Revolution is bourgeois by definition. And the communist of China 
have carved themselves a noble page . . . chapter in history. 

The last time history placed social revolution on the agenda 
in the American Union was the Civil War. The Civil Rights Movement was not 
social revolution but a reform movement to allow the expansion of the industrial 
system and the mechanization of agriculture. 

There was no magical "workers uprising in Russian" but an 
economic and social collapse as the result of a catastrophic war time defeat 
during the passing from feudal economic and social relations to industrial 
relations. Today on a world scale we face the industrial bureaucracy in all its 
property forms and relations. 

The intersection is going to be complex and profound. 


The world has been more than less industrialized and we are at 
the beginning of this enormous leap to a post industrial world that may take a 
century of two. We have no way to chart this curve . . . yet. 

We cannot make anyone . . . especially our own working class 
do something it does not want to do or understand as rational. Nor could we even 
maintain our orientation during the past 30 years of assaulting the bourgeois 
order. Marx said that we hold the key and our actuality was the future of all 
the areas of the world . . . . economically drawn forward in our wake . . . 
industrial curve of development. 

I utterly reject as foolishness that we have failed in 
discharging our responsibility to our working class because some group was 
Trotskyists . . . or Stalinists or studied the Thought of Ma ZeDung or practiced 
Buddhism or "didn't really understand Marx." 

China is going to face and is facing the exact same social 
revolution we face in America. Their future resides with their proletariat and 
not her peasants. The people of China are deciding their fate . . . just as the 
people of America are deciding our fate. People fight for what they believe in 
and if no one believes in industrial socialism . . . then we need to understand 
its objective and subjective dimensions. 

We need to understand the lesson of the Soviet Union and Putin 
. . . or rather the counterrevolution that overthrew Reconstruction in America. 
If a ruling class can have the specific form of its economic base shattered and 
reemerge as a freaking ruling class . . . then we are in for a rough

Re: China and socialism- 50 years of the Western Left

2004-08-02 Thread Waistline2



Pieinsky wrote: 

Questions for Henry from an old Maoist: 

(1) Aren't you concerned at all about the evidence of 
increasing class disparities and the consequent rise of open class struggles 
(workers' strikes, farmers' protests, etc.) in "Red" China? What do these 
occurrences mean, in your opinion?

Class is disparity by definition. I am vigorously against 
income disparity. The working class should enjoy the same income or even higher 
income than the bourgeoisie. Those members of the bourgeoisie who work to 
increase income of workers are performing a useful function. Excess profit is 
not only counterrevolutionary, it is even bad economics in an overcapacity 
economy. Strikes are not really class struggle activities, especially 
legal strikes in the context of a capitalist system. General strikes to shut 
down the economy are revolutionary, but there have not any general strikes for 
quite a few decades in the West. In a system such as China's, the way to protect 
worker and peasant interests is not through strikes but through intra party 
political struggles, to get the right people into the central committee and the 
polibureau. The private sector grows in China due to very complex political and 
geopolitical factors. No one can accuse China and the Communist Party of 
China for not giving Maoism a fair chance. But facts are that while the 
ideology is admirable, the results have been wanting. Wealth needs to be created 
before it can be shared. 

(2) Why does it have to be either poverty or 
"ideological purity"? Can't a Third World country's development take 
place, while at the same time preserving and extending more egalitarian social 
relations, as I think Mao hoped for China?

The reasons are very complex. Purity of any kind, 
including religious purity, tends to require tradeoffs that reduce life to 
single dimensional results. What we need is to merge ideological aims with 
utilitarian implementations. 

Nothing the Western Left has voiced has impressed me as being 
useful for the situation in China. Noise of no practical value does not 
deserve attention. In fact, I cannot think of any achievement of significant by 
the Western left in the last five decades. 

Despite all the anti-China noise, China is still the most 
socialist economy in the world. Ask the Cubans who have visited China, 
including Castro, who has long since stopped criticizing China. 

Henry C.K. Liu

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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Waistline2



As for whether China would be a good model for the 
rest of the Third World, let the people of the Third World decide for 
themselves. We don't need self-righteous academics in the West to 
pronounce what is an ideologically correct model for the Third World. The 
sad fact is that the Western left have done little for the Third World 
beyond destructive talk. Until members of the Western Left can control 
their own imperialists governments and improve the lot of the poor in 
their own societies, they had better be a bit more humble about what is 
correct. 

Lou's reply: 

What arrogance. Henry Liu had no problem 
lecturing Marxmail about Jews supporting Adolph Hitler, but he is neither 
Jewish nor German. When he stops writing about things that are not 
exclusively Chinese, I will stop writing about things that are not 
exclusively Jewish. 

Comment 

When it all fall down and the truth comes out. Ones 
Jewishness is not an issue because in the American Union . . . Jews are 
not oppressed and exploited as Jews. Who cares what Jews supported Hitler as a 
political context? Individuals always try and save their hide and protect their 
families and conditions under diverse conditions. 

What are you talking about . . . man? 

That is to say Chinese and the overseas Chinese appear to have 
a different relationship to China than Jews to America. This means their social 
and economic relations in history is different from the Jews to America. There 
is a difference because China is a geographic bound land mass with a long 
unbroken continuos history . . . like 2000 years. 

In the sense of Jews I think we talking about very early 
mercantilism and coinage. trade and what would a thousand years later be 
expressed as a form of merchant capital. 

The real issue is the anti-China lobby and its demand for 
Regime Change or the overthrow of the government and CPC in China and this 
political conclusion is embedded in ones economic and political approach to 
China. 

It would be a tragedy if Henry limited his writings to China 
and have lengthy . . . very lengthy writing on the banking system in America and 
Europe is excellent material . . . even if one disagrees. 

I happen to think his material is brilliant. 

It would be a tragedy if Lou did not learn where his 
individuality ends and others individually begins. On the world stage the 
revolutionaries in different countries are not and do not take the academic left 
serious in America because it is the hand maiden of the imperial bourgeoisie. 


We the Bully Boys on the block . . . Lou . . . you are more 
American than Jew and you need to ask the world people about 
this.Lingering in the corridors of ones mind will get them in trouble. 


It is not the economic data on China that is in question but 
your politics. You have called the leaders of China some bad things based on the 
interior of your mind and not the history of China. 

You know my feeling on this matter . . . rotten chauvinism. 


In terms of this Jewish thing you raise . . . I am African 
American and I am not cosmopolitan and at this stage of history the worlds 
people reject cosmopolitanism as ideology for a complex of reasons. What does 
you being Jewish mean in America for the social struggle? 

I can tell you in plain terms what Henry being Chinese mean to 
the social struggle in America and China. 

Don't thug . . . outsideof your class league and 
narrow conceptions. Or rather understand the boundary and limits. 

Now if you were not anti-China and anti-Soviet and 
anti-Russian and had the answer for everything on earth . . . but have no 
credentials . . . wait a minute. 

Is it because Leon Trotsky was a Jew that you have affinity 
with him? 

You raised the Jewish Question. You . . . not me. 


I only raise the question of social revolution and African 
American Liberation because it is central to American history. There is no 
economic contradiction between African American and America as a social and 
political history and economic formation other than an intractable social 
position.Is this the case with Jews? 

What is this Jewish thing about? What . . . you talking about 
. . . man? 

What do you suggest for China? 

You're apparently the "Shell Answer Man." 

Henry's proposition are extremely clear covering the entire 
economy form sovereign credit to the relative inequality of equality . . . that 
is working families can receive more money than that of the bourgeoisie based on 
need . . . to monetary reform and why China should not devalue its money. Did 
you know Jefferson's attitude on the baking system and if you did why did you 
write a nonsensical history of the Civil War and Reconstruction and the property 
relations of the South? 

Leave China alone . . . or at any rate be careful. What . . . 
you have the right to say anything because you a Jew? You inserted this into the 
question of China for reasons known only to you. 

See . . . I have no tolerance for th

Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Marvin Gandall
Louis Proyect wrote:

 I recommend that you read Theodor Shanin's Late Marx, which makes a
 convincing case that Marx rejected the notion of universal models of
 development.

I haven't read Shanin's book. But reinterpreting Marx has been the fashion
ever since the socialist revolution he foresaw in the heavily
proletarianized industrial West did not occur, but broke out instead in
primarily peasant societies outside the advanced capitalist heartlands. The
claim that Marx never developed a schema whereby societies necessarily
progressed from feudalism to capitalism to socialism was invoked to lend his
authority to the revolutions which were carried out in the name of socialism
and the working class in Russia, China and other predominantly peasant
societies. For Western Marxists like Louis who still see their societies as
rotten ripe for socialism -- and predicate their political behaviour on
that assumption -- it can be demoralizing to acknowedge that Marx may have
been a good analyst of capitalism, but wrong about its staying power. I
suspect Shanin's book may belong to this genre.

 Lenin returned to the late Marx when he drafted
 the April Theses, which rejected the notion of a capitalist stage for
 Russia.

Contemporary Russia indicates Lenin was wrong to dismiss this possibility.
In fact, he was more prescient about the long term movement of Russian
history before the April theses. Prior to 1917, he foresaw an extended
period of capitalist development in a parliamentary democracy dominated by
the workers' and peasants' parties -- encapsulated in his formula of the
democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and peasantry. Kautsky, whom
Lenin admired until the former became a renegade supporter of the German
war effort and critic of the Bolshevik Revolution, held a similar view. In
1917, understandably excited by the prospects of a socialist revolution in
Russia and the West, Lenin called for a government based on soviets of
workers and peasants rather than on a multi-class parliament, and
effectively embraced Trotsky's theory of permanent revolution, which
called on it to construct socialism. The 70 year experiment with public
ownership and a planned economy followed. What would the classical Marxists
say today with the power of hindsight? Even Trotsky admitted he would be
forced to revise his views if WWII did not result in the long-delayed
socialist revolution in the West and the overthrow of Stalinism in the USSR.
Neither Marx nor Lenin nor Trotsky ever anticipated that post-capitalist
societies would revert back to capitalism, the central political development
of our time.

 I see that you omit Cuba in this...panorama of the last 100
 years. Highly revealing.

Revealing of what? I still regard the Cuban Revolution as one of the most
heroic episodes of our lifetime and respect and admire Fidel as much as I
ever did, but to suggest that the socialist characteristics of this small
island are more significant to our understanding of historical trends and
Marxism than the collapse of the USSR and China and the absence of socialist
revolution in the West is ridiculous. Moreover, it doesn't take into account
the increasing concessions which the Cubans have reluctantly had to make to
markets, petty enterprise, and the dollar. I wouldn't exclude the
possibility that the next generation of Cuban leaders may take the same
measures with respect to the nationalized economy, the monopoly of foreign
trade, the constraints on capital flows and labour mobility etc. that have
been taken in the past 15 years by their former ideological allies. Such is
the pressure of the ever-widening global capitalist economy.

Might I suggest that instead of referring me to academic works by others and
implying I am a Kautskyite enemy of Cuba, it would be better to identify the
precise formulations of mine to which you object, and for what reasons.

Marv Gandall


Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Marvin Gandall wrote:
societies. For Western Marxists like Louis who still see their societies as
rotten ripe for socialism -- and predicate their political behaviour on
that assumption -- it can be demoralizing to acknowedge that Marx may have
been a good analyst of capitalism, but wrong about its staying power. I
suspect Shanin's book may belong to this genre.
The next time that somebody gets the impression that I see the USA as
rotten ripe for socialism has permission to give me 50 lashes with a
cat o'nine tails. Except for Jim Devine, that is.
Contemporary Russia indicates Lenin was wrong to dismiss this possibility.
No. Contemporary Russia demonstrates that only socialism can produce
rational development. The NY Times Magazine article I cited earlier
predicts that Russia will go the same way as other capitalist
oil-centric countries, like Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, etc.
In fact, he was more prescient about the long term movement of Russian
history before the April theses. Prior to 1917, he foresaw an extended
period of capitalist development in a parliamentary democracy dominated by
the workers' and peasants' parties -- encapsulated in his formula of the
democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and peasantry. Kautsky, whom
Lenin admired until the former became a renegade supporter of the German
war effort and critic of the Bolshevik Revolution, held a similar view.
Lenin drafted the April Theses because it became obvious that the
progressive bourgeoisie would continue with the senseless slaughter of
WWI, refuse to divide up the rural estates and grant oppressed nations
their freedom. In other words, socialism was necessary to complete the
bourgeois-democratic revolution.
say today with the power of hindsight? Even Trotsky admitted he would be
forced to revise his views if WWII did not result in the long-delayed
socialist revolution in the West and the overthrow of Stalinism in the USSR.
Neither Marx nor Lenin nor Trotsky ever anticipated that post-capitalist
societies would revert back to capitalism, the central political development
of our time.
Stalinism proved more intractable than anybody imagined. This is our
woesome legacy, to have a hegemonic left that pushed for class alliances
with the bourgeoisie. Even though the CP has been eclipsed, this kind of
stinking reformism is very much alive unfortunately.
markets, petty enterprise, and the dollar. I wouldn't exclude the
possibility that the next generation of Cuban leaders may take the same
measures with respect to the nationalized economy, the monopoly of foreign
trade, the constraints on capital flows and labour mobility etc. that have
been taken in the past 15 years by their former ideological allies. Such is
the pressure of the ever-widening global capitalist economy.
Perhaps. But that is not the same thing as championing capitalist
property relations like the Mensheviks and their latter-day followers do.
Might I suggest that instead of referring me to academic works by others and
implying I am a Kautskyite enemy of Cuba, it would be better to identify the
precise formulations of mine to which you object, and for what reasons.
I myself am opposed to capitalism as a system and capitalist parties.
You are free to make your own political choices. You live in Canada, a
free country.

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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Waistline2



In a message dated 8/2/2004 4:55:52 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

I have tried to get in touch with Michael and Sabri, but I 
think that the situation is so urgent that the obvious step has to be taken of 
terminating the thread which started with discussion of The Monthly Review 
article on China. It has become too personal and acrimonious. I ask those 
involved not to contribute any more posts on the subject, and the same applies 
to other list members, however good their motives or 
intentions.

Urgently, 

James Daly 

Comment 

Why should I not pen/pin the chauvinist I have spent all of my 
life fighting under impossible conditions of social revolution and then some 
freaking jerk . . . that has an inclination . . . thinks their opinion about an 
abstraction is important and then proceed to lecture people about social 
revolution . . . and has not one single credential in the social struggle? 


I am ultra hot. I am talking basically about Lou and this 
garbage about being a Jew. I do not care cause you a Jew. What that supposed to 
me to me in America? Lou raise these issues and he can be confronted on the 
basis of the issues he raises. 

See . . . Lou raised this Jew thing about World War 2 and 
million Jews . . . and I said what about the 25 million in Russia and then the 
millions upon millions in China? Where did the Second imperial world war start? 


Me . . . I am African American and this just so happens to be 
the central question to revolution in America and the freaking world. 


Lou is a chauvinists and has always been one and anyone that 
takes me to task on this has nothing to do but produce his writing on the 
national question in America. 

Then we can talk about the working class movement . . . in 
which I got the fucking credentials. 

I ask no one for anything . . . but truth. 

No . . . I will not back down on this political panhandler. 


Like I give a fuck because some 18 year old jumped in front of 
a fucking train in China because he could not go to college. This is the 
stupidest shit I have every read in life . . . and it is written as if has 
meaning to our working class and intellectuals. 

Ask the American workers how they feel about not being able to 
send their kids to college. 

And this Jew thing you wrote on the A-List . . . are you sure 
you want to do this Lou? It aint like you Chinese and have China . . . right? 


Why do you want to go this way in the first 
place?

What next . . . anal sex and homosexuality? 

This is outrageous. 

Melvin P.

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Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Devine, James
LP writes: The next time that somebody gets the impression that I see the USA as
rotten ripe for socialism has permission to give me 50 lashes with a
cat o'nine tails. Except for Jim Devine, that is.

You didn't like it the last time?

Jim Devine



A suicide in China

2004-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, August 1, 2004
THE GREAT DIVIDE
Amid China's Boom, No Helping Hand for Young Qingming
By JOSEPH KAHN and JIM YARDLEY
PUJIA, China  His dying debt was $80. Had he been among China's urban 
elite, Zheng Qingming would have spent more on a trendy cellphone. But 
he was one of the hundreds of millions of peasants far removed from the 
country's new wealth. His public high school tuition alone consumed most 
of his family's income for a year.

He wanted to attend college. But to do so meant taking the annual 
college entrance examination. On the humid morning of June 4, three days 
before the exam, Qingming's teacher repeated a common refrain: he had to 
pay his last $80 in fees or he would not be allowed to take the test. 
Qingming stood before his classmates, his shame overtaken by anger.

I do not have the money, he said slowly, according to several teachers 
who described the events that morning. But his teacher  and the system 
 would not budge.

A few hours later, Qingming, 18 years old, stepped in front of an 
approaching locomotive. The train, like China's roaring economy, was an 
express.

If his gruesome death was shocking, the life of this peasant boy in the 
rolling hills of northern Sichuan Province is repeated a millionfold 
across the Chinese countryside. Peasants like Qingming were once the 
core constituency of the Communist Party. Now, they are being left 
behind in the money-centered, cutthroat society that has replaced 
socialist China.

China has the world's fastest-growing economy but is one of its most 
unequal societies. The benefits of growth have been bestowed mainly on 
urban residents and government and party officials. In the past five 
years, the income divide between the urban rich and the rural poor has 
widened so sharply that some studies now compare China's social cleavage 
unfavorably with Africa's poorest nations.

For the Communist leaders whose main claim to legitimacy is creating 
prosperity, the skewed distribution of wealth has already begun to 
alienate the country's 750 million peasants, historically a bellwether 
of stability.

The countryside simmers with unrest. Farmers flock to the cities to find 
work. The poor demand social, economic and political benefits that the 
Communist Party has been reluctant to deliver.

To its credit, the Chinese government invigorated the economy and lifted 
hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty over the past 
quarter century. Few would argue that Chinese lived better when 
officials still adhered to a rigid idea of socialist equality.

But in recent years, officials have devoted the nation's wealth to 
building urban manufacturing and financial centers, often ignoring 
peasants. Farmers cannot own the land they work and are often left with 
nothing when the government seizes their fields for factories or malls. 
Many cannot afford basic services, like high school.

This year, the number of destitute poor, which China classifies as those 
earning less than $75 a year, increased for the first time in 25 years. 
The government estimates that the number of people in this lowest 
stratum grew by 800,000, to 85 million people, even as the economy grew 
by a robust 9 percent.

No modern country has become prosperous without allowing some people to 
get rich first. The problem for China is not just that the urban elite 
now drive BMW's, while many farmers are lucky to eat meat once a week. 
The problem is that the gap has widened partly because the government 
enforces a two-class system, denying peasants the medical, pension and 
welfare benefits that many urban residents have, while often even 
denying them the right to become urban residents.

Even in a country that ruthlessly punishes dissent, some three million 
people took part in protests last year, police data show. Most were 
farmers, laid-off workers and victims of official corruption, who 
blocked roads, swarmed government offices, even immolated themselves in 
Tiananmen Square in Beijing to demand social justice.

India, the world's other developing giant, has a less pronounced gap 
between urban and rural living standards, and an open political system. 
In May, India's governing party lost an election largely because the 
strong economic growth did not trickle down fast enough to the rural masses.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/01/international/01CHIN.html
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China and socialism

2004-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect
If any confirmation of the correctness of Marty Hart-Landsberg and Paul 
Burkett's China and Socialism (a book-length article in the 
July-August 2004 Monthly Review) was needed, you can look at the 
heartrending Aug. 1, 2004 NY Times article on the suicide of Zheng 
Qingming. This 18 year old peasant youth threw himself into the path of 
an onrushing locomotive because he lacked the $80 in fees to continue 
with college. It is the first in a series of NY Times articles dealing 
with class divisions in China, a country in which 85 million people earn 
less than $75 per year.

I strongly urge everybody to get a copy of the current MR since it is 
high time that the left come to terms with what is happening in China. 
In this post, I am recapitulating some of their main arguments for the 
benefit of Marxmail subscribers outside the USA who may have difficulty 
purchasing a copy.

Not only do Marty and Paul put the nail into the coffin of Chinese 
socialism; they pose broader questions about how to understand 
problems of development. I can think of nothing since Robert Brenner's 
NLR article on the world financial crisis that makes as big a statement 
as their article and hope that it opens up some dialog on the left about 
the issues it poses. This post is a first step in that direction.

In part one, Marty and Paul discuss China's Rise to Model Status. 
Obviously, one would expect people like Stephen Roach of Morgan-Stanley 
to hail China's unwavering commitment to reform. However, China has 
also ingratiated itself as a model to so-called progressives like Joseph 
Stiglitz who was profiled in the Nation Magazine of May 23, 2002 titled 
Rebel With a Cause. Referring to Stiglitz, Eyal Press tells us that:

He also believes the spread of global capitalism has enormous potential 
to benefit the poor. As an example of a country that has successfully 
integrated into the global marketplace--but in a manner that defies the 
conventional wisdom of the Washington Consensus--Stiglitz points to 
China. China has adopted privatization and lowered trade barriers, he 
argues, but in a gradual manner that has prevented the social fabric 
from being torn apart in the process.

Full: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020610c=4s=press
I guess throwing oneself into the path of an onrushing train does not 
constitute a rift in the social fabric.

When Stiglitz was in Beijing in July, 1998, he called China by far the 
most successful of the low-income countries' in moving to a market 
economy. With 85 million people making less than $75 per year, one 
would dread less successful examples.

Moving along, one encounters a fondness for the Chinese development 
model among the market socialist academic left. In the 1993 Rethinking 
Marxism, Victor Lippit considers China as an exception to the capitalist 
triumphalism that was sweeping the world. He hoped that a mixture of 
state and privately owned enterprises could be a formula for success.

Although somewhat noncommittal on the exact character of Chinese 
society, Walden Bello has been one of the most outspoken defenders of 
the development model which he describes as a successful revolutionary 
nationalist struggle that got institutionalized institutionalized into a 
no-nonsense state, whatever that's supposed to mean. In defending 
China's policies against people like Lester Brown, who invoke 
neo-Malthusian arguments against them, Bello writes:

China is one of the world's most dynamic economies, growing between 
7-10% a year over the past decade. Its ability to push a majority of the 
population living in abject poverty during the civil-war period in the 
late forties into decent living conditions in five decades is no mean 
achievement. That economic dynamism can't be separated from an event 
that most of us in the South missed out on: a social revolution in the 
late forties and early fifties that eliminated the worst inequalities in 
the distribution of land and income, and prepared the country for 
economic take-off when market reforms were introduced to the 
agricultural sector in the late 1970s.

full: http://www.focusweb.org/popups/articleswindow.php?id=251
In other words, socialism in China was a kind of training wheels that 
helped the country prepare for the turbo-capitalism of the recent 
period. One wonders if Zheng Qingming felt a part of this dynamism, 
especially in light of a verse he composed:

Do not toady to those above.
Do not flatter the rich.
Do not cheat the poor.
Make way for a new generation.
While I appreciate Marty and Paul's decision to challenge precepts about 
market socialism, especially in relation to China, I wonder if this 
trend all that powerful in the academy. As one who tries to keep track 
of academic fads, I don't recall that many articles in praise of the 
Chinese CP over the past 15 years or so in obscure journals on the left. 
By and large, market socialism was a kind of utopian socialism that 
turned Mondragon and other

Re: China and socialism

2004-08-01 Thread Waistline2



If any confirmation of the correctness of Marty 
Hart-Landsberg and Paul Burkett's "China and Socialism" (a book-length article 
in the July-August 2004 Monthly Review) was needed, you can look at the 
heartrending Aug. 1, 2004 NY Times article on the suicide of Zheng 
Qingming. This 18 year old peasant youth threw himself into the path of an 
onrushing locomotive because he lacked the $80 in fees to continue with college. 
It is the first in a series of NY Times articles dealing with class divisions in 
China, a country in which 85 million people earn less than $75 per year. 


Comment 

Interesting . . . 85 million people with $75(US) per year . . 
. what was it twenty years ago? Where is the relationship? What do $75 (US) buy 
amongst these 85 million peoples . . . peasants? 

The first rule of politicsfor political leaders on the 
side of the proletariat in the American Union is that if the New York Times or 
Washington Post run a story on China . . . position yourself in opposition to it 
and you will be on the right side of the polarity . . . 90% of the time . 
. . always. A 10% loss rate is acceptable for any political leader. 


This is not to say one rejects data from the bourgeoisie . . . 
but rather . . . the story of an 18 year old boy killing himself because he 
could not go to college is for suckers and political panhandlers. 

Let's political thug. 

Earlier in July there was a series of articles about China on 
the A-List and the review of the Monthly Review article. To my knowledge no one 
disputes capitalism in China . . . or rather . . . I do not dispute the 
existence and operation of the bourgeois property relations and the unrestrained 
law of value . . . creating the specific circuit of reproduction. 

By "no one" is meant those who wrote concerning China and 
prior to that the issue of the loss of manufacturing jobs in China was spoken 
of. Questions like why are the manufacturing jobs lost was asked since China is 
hands down the low cost producer? Why are manufacturing jobs being lost in low 
producer China and the reason is not capitalism. 

Again . . . I have written nothing to dispute the bourgeois 
property relations in China . . . at least in the last 15 years. 

There was a question of what portion of the GDP was driven by 
FDI and/or its economic weight as reproduction and development of the industrial 
and post industrial infrastructure . . . as opposed to consumer goods. This 
includes most certainly the military infrastructure. The military infrastructure 
emerged as of supreme importance to socialism as a transition in the form of 
property. 

The point is that if one is to get into the meat of the matter 
. . . an analysis from two different direction is necesaary. One direction is 
the import of the military technology and military wares on the basis of 
bourgeois property. The other is the system of reproduction of these wares and 
its subjection to the unrestricted law of value . . . or capitalism. 


Actually . . . military production is important to bourgeois 
America and it is all capitalism. Get into the issue and lets dealwith 
something more than ideology and what we already know about bourgeois property 
in China. 

Pardon me . . . but capitalism in China is not what produces 
class divisions. The bourgeois property relations exacerbates inequality based 
on property and ownership rights . . . as it takes root on the basis of the 
industrial system. 

I do believe that what is taking place in China can . . . in 
the future . . . open another level of discussion absent amongst Marxists . . . 
as opposed to the left which is uniformly anti-Communist . . . and have 
always been basically anti-Communists in America and fundamentally anti-China 
and anti-Soviet. 

The strength of the counterrevolution is not a subjective 
question rooted in the thinking of individuals and I do not subscribe to a 
"great individual theory" of history. One might as well say that Hitler was 
responsible for German fascism. 

No . . . I believe more is involved in history than simply the 
individuals whose personality captures the moment. In other words I am a 
dogmatic materialist. 

Rather the question that has not been explored is the law of 
value as it operates under the industrial system no matter what stage of 
transition of its property relations. Here is the economic base of the 
counterrevolution. This is what Cuba and North Korea faces . . . in addition to 
a more powerful imperial antagonists. 

If class divisions are not the result of capitalism (and one 
must separate these issues or they cannot wage the proper political struggle) 
but rather the mode of production as a specific combination of human labor + 
machinery + energy source . . . we can begin to describe more accurately the 
environment we operate in. This is important because people follow leaders who 
realize their collective vision and their vision is rooted in how the

China has 600 million telephone users

2004-07-29 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
People's Daily Online

Life
UPDATED: 18:16, July 22, 2004

China has 600 million telephone users

China had close to 600 million fixed and mobile phone
users by the end of
June this year.

Statistics released from the Ministry of Information
Industry show 30
million new telephone users signed up for services in
the first six months
of the year.

Experts point out, however, that access to telephones
remains very low in
rural areas, which has encouraged the ministry to
ensure most villages have
telephones by 2005.

It also aims to make every household in China have a
phone by 2020.

Copyright by People's Daily Online, all rights
reserved





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China frees whistle-blower

2004-07-27 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Hindu

Thursday, Jul 22, 2004

China frees whistle-blower

Beijing: The Chinese military surgeon who exposed the
Government's cover-up
of the SARS crisis was released on Tuesday after seven
weeks of political
re-education'', his family said. Jiang Yanyong (72), a
semi-retired general
in the People's Liberation Army, had been detained at
a secret location
where he was forced to undergo daily study sessions
aimed to make him
renounce a critical letter he had written about the
1989 Tiananmen Square
massacre.

It was unclear whether he had signed a letter of
contrition to
secure his freedom. Dr. Jiang's family said he was in
good health, but
forbidden to talk to the media without the prior
approval of his superiors
at the No. 301 military hospital in Beijing.

Dr. Jiang and his wife, Hua Zhongwei, were detained on
June 1 while going to
the U.S. embassy, where they were applying for visas
to visit their
California-based daughter. They were among dozens of
dissenters who were
removed from public view or held under house arrest in
the run-up to the
politically sensitive 15th
anniversary of the Tiananmen Square crackdown on June
4. Mrs. Hua and most
of the others were released within two weeks, but Dr.
Jiang was held for
what sympathisers called `brainwashing,' which would
have required
authorisation by Jiang Zemin, the head of the
military.

 - Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004

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Re: Monthly Review: China and Market Socialism

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2




What is the best source that discusses the pre-reform 
political and economic developments in China. The Monthly Review special issue 
focuses almost entirely on post-1978. Would a comparison of 
directions/developments pre- and post -978 be worthwhile? 

Joel Wendland http://www.politicalaffairs.net 

Reply 

The archives of the A-List probably contains much material on 
China. Henry C.K. Lis is a first rate . . . actually excellent economist . 
. . in my opinion and is well within Marxism and a prolific writer on China and 
world economy. 

http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/a-list 

Recently we discussed aspects of the Monthly Review article on 
China. Currently things are a bit slow with it being the vacation time of year 
and all. Henry is a regular contribution to Asia Times. 

I generally write a more intense version of material sent to 
Pen-L on the A-List. At any rate the archives are really worth looking at. 


Melvin P.



Monthly Review: China and Market Socialism

2004-07-21 Thread Joel Wendland
What is the best source that discusses the pre-reform political and economic
developments in China. The Monthly Review special issue focuses almost
entirely on post-1978. Would a comparison of directions/developments pre-
and post -978 be worthwhile?
Joel Wendland
http://www.politicalaffairs.net
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Re: China and the American consumer

2004-07-05 Thread Waistline2




In a message dated 7/4/2004 1:13:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 
  article itself, like those articles about 20 years ago, have a lot 
  ofthe old "yellow peril" theme.The Chinese economy is about as 
  uneven, ragged, stumbling as you can get and still be upright. 
  Agriculture has been decimated-- and there is no contradiction between 
  internal decimation and increased exports, in fact as the same past 20 years 
  have shown, the two go hand in hand.


Comment 

Your comments on China are very considerate and takes into 
account the configuration of the on going revolutionary process in that country. 
Those of us in the most imperial of all imperial countries must always be 
careful and if we error it is better to error on the side of caution. 


What is called the "Chinese Revolution" is in my opinion, 
actually the revolutionary process in China. I am prohibited from criticizing 
the "Chinese Revolution" but can comment on the revolutionary process in China. 
The modern revolution in China began around 1811 and has gone through 
extraordinary twists and turns that would baffle any economist or so-called 
political Marxists. 

What is not baffling is the current generation of China 
produced automobiles and vehicles poised to hit the American market with a price 
range between $9,000 and $15,000. (USA Today June 1, 2004 - Inexpensive Chinese 
Cars On Way Soon). 

We are talking not just about foreign investment as an 
abstraction but the value system and making profits the old bourgeois way or the 
China connection and material action in the world market. If you are behind the 
curve of industrial development then you must trade to realize a technological 
transfer and adhere to the world historic transition from agricultural relations 
to industrial relations of production - with the property relations within. 


I'll buy one of these vehicles in 36 months after I pay off 
the two vehicles the banks and finance companies allow me to drive. 


I believe you are correct to point out the enormous difference 
in economic development in the various regions of China. Back when I was still 
employed with Chrysler and later after its acquisition by Daimler Benz, it was 
rather simple to keep up with certain events in economic China. Chrysler was one 
of the first large industrial American companies to go into China building Jeep. 
Then . . . later . . . with Daimler at the helm I was informed through their 
excellent quarterly magazine - and I mean excellent, that Guzodong Province, had 
the largest concentration of Mercedes Benz buyers and owners on earth. 


Sidenote: It is not generally understood about the role Jergen 
Schempp played in the freeing of Nelson Mandela and why several years ago 
DamilerChrysler erected a new public school in the areas of Nelson's birth. Or 
the special relationship DaimlerChrysler has with the South African government 
to this very day. The quarterly journal of DaimlerChrysler is really excellent 
and I tossed them before moving to Texas. 

(There were always the stories of the smuggle of Mercedes by 
the PLA - Peoples Liberation Army apparatus and dragging vehicles through the 
water in large condom like sacks . . . and the backdoor building of Jeeps would 
be spoken about by the upper echelon of the corporation. Reminds me of a young 
American Republic stealing British technology). 

What is complicated about the revolution in China is not the 
existence of the bourgeois property relations and old fashion bourgeois profits, 
but the political basis of the so-called Chinese Revolution. China has the 
oldest existing continuous culture on earth - the third planet from the sun. 
Intensely proud and patriotic, they have been humiliated for at least 150 years 
by "foreign barbarians." 

The communists, to succeed had to take serious account of the 
national pride and striving of the people of China for independence, in a way 
not UN-similar to how we should understand the vision of 1776 and why it 
continues to inspire a vast segment of the American people. The communists 
in China were ideological communist or people who believed in communism because 
you cannot build communism on the basis of an agricultural society. 


Taking into account where they where in history, Chairman Mao 
summed up his victory in the war for national liberation by simple stating 
"China has stood up." Now the communist were successful for a combination of 
reasons and results of the Second World Imperial War . . . but their slogans was 
for a "New Democracy," redistribution of the land, a guarantee of food for all 
or food for no one - and most importantly, the rebirth of China. 


China began industrialization of her could - after 1949, based 
on the strength of the USSR and this was short lived due to what became called 
the Sino-Soviet split. Newly independent China could not accept what it 
consid

China and the American consumer

2004-07-04 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times Magazine, July 4, 2004
The Chinese Century
By TED C. FISHMAN
(clip)
The China Savings
No politician declares it. There is no Association of Big Box Store
Customers beating the drum. But, as nearly any shopping trip in America
will teach you, China saves American consumers enormous amounts of money.
The worry that Chinese producers are hurting American businesses and
eliminating American jobs misrepresents the problem -- at least
geographically. While the U.S. trade deficit with China is growing, most
of the goods from China, between 60 and 75 percent of them, simply would
have been imported in past years from other countries. Still, because
the China price forces manufacturers the world over to drop their own
prices, the jobs that have not moved have been shaken up all the same,
in the U.S. and in other countries. In Mexico, for example, which has
lost nearly half a million manufacturing jobs and 500 maquiladora
manufacturers, workers earn four times what their Chinese counterparts
do. So for Mexican factories to stay competitive, they must get by with
fewer hands or smaller profits.
Americans who would demonize China also have a local problem: the China
price is a boon to American consumers. Gary Hufbauer, a senior fellow at
the Institute for International Economics, has done some rough math that
shows how. ''From time immemorial,'' Hufbauer says, ''most American and
Japanese businesses have been reluctant to move their manufacturing to
new locales unless they can save at least 10 to 20 percent with the
move.'' For the $152 billion worth of goods coming in from China last
year, those savings have already been realized.
The multiplier effect on the rest of the world's manufacturers, however,
dwarfs the savings that come directly from China. Hufbauer figures some
$500 billion in goods come from countries that are China's low-wage
competitors, and another $450 billion in goods come from China's
American and Japanese competitors. That means savings on nearly a
trillion dollars of goods. If the savings on that non-Chinese trillion
dollars' worth of trade are just 3 to 5 percent, rather than the 20
percent the Chinese can deliver, Hufbauer calculates further savings
starting at $500 for the average American household. And people who
spend more, get more back. Have a drawer full of $3 T-shirts, a DVD
player in every room, a Christmas tree annually encircled with piles of
toys? You probably have tons more stuff -- and additional savings --
thanks to the China price.
This inexorable downward pressure on prices now shows up even when the
prices of raw materials rise, costs that in the past were hurriedly
passed on to consumers. The Chinese industrial boom has, for example,
pushed up the cost of copper, aluminum, nickel, plastics and nearly
every other important industrial commodity. Chinese demand has caused
the price of steel to rise 20 percent this past spring. (China is now
the world's top steel producer, by the way, while the U.K. has dropped
out of the top 10.) Nevertheless, the price of cars, which reflect
nearly the entire commodity index, has been weak. In April, cotton
climbed to its highest price at this time of year in seven seasons, but
the price of clothing declined.
American firms can find it hard to compete. ''China hits domestic U.S.
manufacturers twice,'' Oded Shenkar says. ''They drive down the price of
goods, but they drive up the price of raw materials. It's a wholly
different environment.'' And yet it's a good one for Americans too.
The efficiencies forced on the market by Chinese factories also hold
U.S. inflation in check. Lower inflation means the Federal Reserve can
keep interest rates low, making money more freely available for
investment in new and stronger industries. Chinese competition forces
American businesses -- Signicast, for example -- to use capital as
efficiently as possible. And to run their plants full tilt. And to find
ways to save on labor costs. The Americans who lost manufacturing jobs
over the last three years, and the millions more who are expected to see
their white-collar jobs migrate overseas, may have not only China to
blame, but also the very economic benefits that China has provided for
them.
And that's to say nothing of what happens once the Chinese countryside,
thinned of its oversupply of farmers, turns into efficient farms.
Already the Chinese have their eyes on cash crops. Though it has only
recently begun exporting apple juice, China already produces seven times
as many apples as the U.S., enough to cause a depression in the price of
apple juice worldwide. Whole apples for exports are individually wrapped
by hand in a foam sock. Given the country's wealth of manual labor, it
can assert dominance in crops that must be tended by hand.
In a stable China, where its great resource, its people, are allowed to
work and spend money in a reasonably well functioning market economy,
the growing place of China in a global economy cannot be legislated away

Re: China and the American consumer

2004-07-04 Thread Devine, James
A lot of this would be changed if China let the renminbi float (i.e., rise).  The 
predictions at the end seem similar to those made about Japan awhile back (e.g., in 
Michael Crichton's RISING SUN) before the Japanese miracle popped.
jd

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NY Times Magazine, July 4, 2004
The Chinese Century
By TED C. FISHMAN

(clip)

The China Savings

No politician declares it. There is no Association of Big Box Store
Customers beating the drum. But, as nearly any shopping trip in America
will teach you, China saves American consumers enormous amounts of money.

The worry that Chinese producers are hurting American businesses and
eliminating American jobs misrepresents the problem -- at least
geographically. While the U.S. trade deficit with China is growing, most
of the goods from China, between 60 and 75 percent of them, simply would
have been imported in past years from other countries. Still, because
the China price forces manufacturers the world over to drop their own
prices, the jobs that have not moved have been shaken up all the same,
in the U.S. and in other countries. In Mexico, for example, which has
lost nearly half a million manufacturing jobs and 500 maquiladora
manufacturers, workers earn four times what their Chinese counterparts
do. So for Mexican factories to stay competitive, they must get by with
fewer hands or smaller profits.

Americans who would demonize China also have a local problem: the China
price is a boon to American consumers. Gary Hufbauer, a senior fellow at
the Institute for International Economics, has done some rough math that
shows how. ''From time immemorial,'' Hufbauer says, ''most American and
Japanese businesses have been reluctant to move their manufacturing to
new locales unless they can save at least 10 to 20 percent with the
move.'' For the $152 billion worth of goods coming in from China last
year, those savings have already been realized.

The multiplier effect on the rest of the world's manufacturers, however,
dwarfs the savings that come directly from China. Hufbauer figures some
$500 billion in goods come from countries that are China's low-wage
competitors, and another $450 billion in goods come from China's
American and Japanese competitors. That means savings on nearly a
trillion dollars of goods. If the savings on that non-Chinese trillion
dollars' worth of trade are just 3 to 5 percent, rather than the 20
percent the Chinese can deliver, Hufbauer calculates further savings
starting at $500 for the average American household. And people who
spend more, get more back. Have a drawer full of $3 T-shirts, a DVD
player in every room, a Christmas tree annually encircled with piles of
toys? You probably have tons more stuff -- and additional savings --
thanks to the China price.

This inexorable downward pressure on prices now shows up even when the
prices of raw materials rise, costs that in the past were hurriedly
passed on to consumers. The Chinese industrial boom has, for example,
pushed up the cost of copper, aluminum, nickel, plastics and nearly
every other important industrial commodity. Chinese demand has caused
the price of steel to rise 20 percent this past spring. (China is now
the world's top steel producer, by the way, while the U.K. has dropped
out of the top 10.) Nevertheless, the price of cars, which reflect
nearly the entire commodity index, has been weak. In April, cotton
climbed to its highest price at this time of year in seven seasons, but
the price of clothing declined.

American firms can find it hard to compete. ''China hits domestic U.S.
manufacturers twice,'' Oded Shenkar says. ''They drive down the price of
goods, but they drive up the price of raw materials. It's a wholly
different environment.'' And yet it's a good one for Americans too.

The efficiencies forced on the market by Chinese factories also hold
U.S. inflation in check. Lower inflation means the Federal Reserve can
keep interest rates low, making money more freely available for
investment in new and stronger industries. Chinese competition forces
American businesses -- Signicast, for example -- to use capital as
efficiently as possible. And to run their plants full tilt. And to find

Re: China and the American consumer

2004-07-04 Thread sartesian
- Original Message -
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] China and the American consumer


 A lot of this would be changed if China let the renminbi float (i.e.,
rise).  The predictions at the end seem similar to those made about Japan
awhile back (e.g., in Michael Crichton's RISING SUN) before the Japanese
miracle popped.
 jd
--

The article itself, like those articles about 20 years ago,  have a lot of
the old yellow peril theme.

The Chinese economy is about as uneven, ragged, stumbling as you can get and
still be upright.  Agriculture has been decimated-- and there is no
contradiction between internal decimation and increased exports, in fact as
the same past 20 years have shown, the two go hand in hand.

Infrastructure as a whole is unable to sustain the explosion of projects and
non-performing debt levels will begin another explosive increase.

Ah yes, the competition from the east-- with the supposed benefit to
American consumers more than offset by the workers both in China and the US.


Burkett Hart-Landsberg: full-fledged capitalist restoration in China

2004-07-01 Thread Louis Proyect
Monthly Review, July-August 2004
Introduction: China and Socialism
by Martin Hart-Landsberg and Paul Burkett

China and socialism...during the three decades following the 1949 
establishment of the Peoples Republic of China (PRC), it seemed as if 
these words would forever be joined in an inspiring unity. China had 
been forced to suffer the humiliation of defeat in the 184042 Opium War 
with Great Britain and the ever-expanding treaty port system that 
followed it. The Chinese people suffered under not only despotic rule by 
their emperor and then a series of warlords, but also under the crushing 
weight of imperialism, which divided the country into foreign-controlled 
spheres of influence. Gradually, beginning in the 1920s, the Chinese 
Communist Party led by Mao Zedong organized growing popular resistance 
to the foreign domination and exploitation of the country and the 
dictatorship of Chiang Kai-shek. The triumph of the revolution under the 
leadership of the Chinese Communist Party finally came in 1949, when the 
party proclaimed it would bring not only an end to the suffering of the 
people but a new democratic future based on the construction of socialism.

There can be no doubt that the Chinese revolution was a world historic 
event and that tremendous achievements were made under the banner of 
socialism in the decades that followed. However, it is our opinion that 
this reality should not blind us to three important facts: first, at the 
time of Maos death in 1976, the Chinese people remained far from 
achieving the promises of socialism. Second, beginning in 1978 the 
Chinese Communist Party embarked on a market-based reform process that, 
while allegedly designed to reinvigorate the effort to build socialism, 
has actually led in the opposite direction and at great cost to the 
Chinese people. And finally, progressives throughout the world continue 
to identify with and take inspiration from developments in China, seeing 
the countrys rapid export-led growth as either confirmation of the 
virtues of market socialism or proof that, regardless of labels, active 
state direction of the economy can produce successful development within 
a capitalist world system.

As much as we were also inspired by the Chinese revolution, we have for 
some time believed that this continuing identification by progressives 
with China and its socialist market economy represents not only a 
serious misreading of the Chinese reform experience but, even more 
important, a major impediment to the development of the theoretical and 
practical understandings required to actually advance socialism in China 
and elsewhere.

As we will argue in this book, it is our position that Chinas market 
reforms have led not to socialist renewal but rather to full-fledged 
capitalist restoration, including growing foreign economic domination. 
Significantly, this outcome was driven by more than simple greed and 
class interest. Once the path of pro-market reforms was embarked upon, 
each subsequent step in the reform process was largely driven by 
tensions and contradictions generated by the reforms themselves. The 
weakening of central planning led to ever more reliance on market and 
profit incentives, which in turn encouraged the privileging of private 
enterprises over state enterprises and, increasingly, of foreign 
enterprises and markets over domestic ones. Although a correct 
understanding of the dynamics of Chinas reform process supports the 
Marxist position that market socialism is an unstable formation, this 
important insight has largely been lost because of the continuing 
widespread belief by many progressives that China remains in some sense 
a socialist country. This situation cannot help but generate confusion 
about the meaning of socialism while strengthening the ideological 
position of those who oppose it.

Many other progressive scholars and activists dismiss arguments about 
the meaning of socialism as irrelevant to the challenges of development 
faced by people throughout the world. They look at Chinas record of 
rapid and sustained export-led growth and conclude that China is a 
development model, with a growth strategy that can and should be 
emulated by other countries. We believe, and argue in this book, that 
this celebration of China is a serious mistake, one that reflects a 
misunderstanding not only of the Chinese experience but also of the 
dynamics and contradictions of capitalism as an international system. In 
fact, an examination of the effects of Chinas economic transformation 
on the regions other economies makes clear that the countrys growth is 
intensifying competitive pressures and crisis tendencies to the 
detriment of workers throughout the region, including in China.

Our differences with leftists and progressives might never have produced 
a book about China if it were not for our May 2003 trip to Cuba

China and the environment

2004-07-01 Thread Louis Proyect
(cited in Harry Magdoff and John Bellamy Foster's introduction to 
Burkett  Hart-Landsberg)

Harvard Asia Quarterly
Interview with Elizabeth Economy
Chinas Development and the Environment
BY HAQ Staff
Elizabeth Economy is C.V. Starr Senior Fellow and Director, Asia 
Studies, at the Council on Foreign Relations. She has written 
extensively on Chinese domestic and foreign policy. Her publications 
include: The River Runs Black: The Environmental Challenge to Chinas 
Future (manuscript completed, September 2002); China Joins the World: 
Progress and Prospects (co-editor) (Council on Foreign Relations Press, 
1999); The Internationalization of Environmental Protection (co-editor) 
(Cambridge University Press, 1997); various articles in policy and 
scholarly journals such as Foreign Affairs and Survival; and op-ed 
pieces and book reviews in The New York Times, The Washington Post, 
International Herald Tribune, The Boston Globe, and The South China 
Morning Post. She holds a Ph.D. from the University of Michigan, an A.M. 
from Stanford University and a B.A. from Swarthmore College.

HAQ: What is the state of Chinas environment today? For example, it is 
estimated that China will surpass the US in annual emissions of carbon 
dioxide within a decade and, in a few decades, in total cumulative 
emissions of carbon dioxide since the Industrial Revolution. Could you 
give us a few figures and statistics illustrating the nature of the 
problem?

Economy: While Chinas spectacular economic growth over the past two 
decades or so has provided a significant increase in the standard of 
living for hundreds of millions of Chinese, it has also produced an 
environmental disaster. There has been a dramatic increase in the demand 
for natural resources of all kinds, including water, land, and energy. 
Forest resources have been depleted, triggering a range of devastating 
secondary impacts, such as desertification, flooding, and species loss. 
At the same time, levels of water and air pollution have skyrocketed. 
Small-scale township and village enterprises, which have been the engine 
of Chinese growth in the countryside, are very difficult to monitor and 
regulate and routinely dump their untreated waste directly into streams, 
rivers, and coastal waters.

More than 75% of the water in rivers flowing through Chinas urban areas 
is unsuitable for drinking or fishing. Sixty million people have 
difficulty getting access to water, and almost three times that number 
drink contaminated water daily.1  Desertification, which affects 
one-quarter of Chinas land, is forcing tens of thousands of people to 
migrate every year and now threatens to envelop Beijing.2  In terms of 
air pollution, in 2000, Chinas State Environmental Protection 
Administration tested the air quality in more than 300 Chinese cities 
and found that almost two-thirds failed to achieve standards set by the 
World Health Organization for acceptable levels of total suspended 
particulates, which are the primary culprit in respiratory and pulmonary 
disease.3

China is also exerting a significant impact on the regional and global 
environment. Its reliance on low quality, high sulfur coal is 
responsible for roughly half of all sulfur dioxide emissions, which 
cause acid rain, throughout East Asia4  a situation that has 
contributed to some tensions with Japan and South Korea. Globally, China 
is one of the worlds largest contributors to ozone depletion, 
biodiversity loss, and climate change. There is some positive movement 
in all these areas, but it is very slow to materialize in terms of the 
actual implementation of new policies.

It is important to remember that integrating environmental protection 
with economic development is a continuous battle that every country 
wages. In many respects, China has just begun the process of trying to 
factor environmental concerns into its process of economic development. 
After all, this is a country that has only had an independent 
environmental protection agency for a little over a decade.

full: http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~asiactr/haq/200301/0301a001.htm
--
The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org


Lula's China visit

2004-05-22 Thread Marvin Gandall
Brazilian president Lula’s state visit to China at the head of a huge business 
delegation, beginning today, is part of a strategic effort to connect the biggest 
emerging markets in the eastern and western hemispheres, says an article in the 
Financial Times. 

It is a development “with potentially huge geopolitical implications”, writes the 
Times Latin American editor, Richard Lapper, based on “solid economic fundamentals”. 
China’s insatiable economy needs Brazilian iron ore and other commodities, and Brazil 
is seeking Chinese capital to develop the infrastructure to bring them to market. 

The Asian power’s rapidly developing trade ties throughout Latin America poses a 
significant challenge for the US “right in its own backyard”, says Lapper, especially 
at a time when American relations with Brazil, Argentina, and Venezuela have 
“deteriorated”, raising the spectre of “new power blocs in the region”. He suggests 
the US and other OECD countries will need to further invest and open their markets and 
borders to Latin American products and labour to compete with China. 

FT (sub only) article available on http://www.supportingfacts.com

Sorry for any cross posting.


1



boston lecture on China

2004-05-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Professor Zhao Zhun (tsinghua Univeristy, Beijing) will be speaking at the Cambridge
Public Library tomorrow, Saturday May 22 3pm - 5pm.  The forum is entitled Can
Socialism and Capitalism Co-Exist in China? Enterprise Ownership Reform Since 1978



--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: boston lecture on China

2004-05-21 Thread Craven, Jim
Professor Zhao Zhun (tsinghua Univeristy, Beijing) will be speaking at
the Cambridge Public Library tomorrow, Saturday May 22 3pm - 5pm.  The
forum is entitled Can Socialism and Capitalism Co-Exist in China?
Enterprise Ownership Reform Since 1978



--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Response: I'll be giving a paper at the conference in Beijing on
September 1-2 on essentially the same topic.

Jim C.



Oil: Fears Grow That Supply Will Not Meet Demand in China

2004-05-18 Thread Sabri Oncu
http://www.riskcenter.com/story.php?id=8663

May 18: Energy Risk - Oil Prices Reach Record Levels And Fears Grow That
Supply Will Not Meet Demand in China

---

Location: New York
Author: Ellen J. Silverman
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2004



---

Yesterday, the cost of benchmark crude oil rose $0.66 to close at $40.77 a
barrel, the highest price in more than two decades of trading on the New
York Mercantile Exchange.  Oil prices have risen about $8 a barrel, or 24%,
on concerns that oil demand will outpace supply due to fears of attacks on
the Middle East as well as the fact that oil dealers are skeptical OPEC has
enough spare production capacity to bring prices down. 

Because of this, analysts are wary that supply will keep up with China 's
explosive oil consumption.  China 's demand for oil is projected to increase
21% this quarter, according to the International Energy Agency.  The growth
in Chinese consumption accounts for roughly half the 2 million barrels a day
increase in worldwide demand expected this year.  The increase in Chinese
demand is being driven by the rapid introduction of automobiles and other
forms of transportation.  China was largely self-sufficient in oil until
1993 but now must now import about one-third of its supply to meet demand.


China consumes just 30% of the petroleum used in the United States ;
however, the growth in China 's consumption is roughly four times as large.
According to a recent Reuters article, China is expected to use 930,000
barrels a day more than in the year-ago period, versus an increase of about
230,000 barrels a day in the United States . 

The lack of conservation efforts by the United States remains a prime cause
of worldwide oil market pressures.  Speculation is also playing a role in
driving up costs.  A decline in U.S. gasoline supplies has reinforced
concerns that domestic refiners will not be able to meet demand during the
peak summer driving season.  The speculative demand adds to the real demand
caused by those who consume petroleum products.  Moreover, the world growth
forecast in oil consumption this year represents the largest since 1988,
according to the International Energy Agency. 



China question

2004-04-14 Thread Michael Perelman
How is China able to export fruits and nuts?  Where do the farmers find the land to
grow such crops?  Are they cutting back on the production of grains?


--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: China question

2004-04-14 Thread jjlassen
Hi Michael,

Land tenure is changing. After the rural reforms in the early 80s when the
communes/brigades were disbanded, rural land usufruct rights were given to
households while ownership remained in the hands of the state at the local
level.

Rural land usufruct rights are now increasingly tradeable. The government
encourages the development of integrated agricultural companies that either
lease the land from villages, or establish contracts with individual farmers to
produce. Many of these companies are foreign, I know of some big Hong Kong and
Thai players, but I don't keep track of this stuff very much. There's a good
recent article about this here:
http://www.chinastudygroup.org/index.php?type=newsid=5360

Yes, grain production has been falling in China recently, although everyone
claims that there is plenty of reserve grain. Usually urban sprawl and shady
land deals are blamed for the reduction in grain production, not shifting
production. China lost arable land equal to the area of Maryland to these
processes last year according to this interesting article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6653-2004Apr12.html

Cheers,

Jonathan



How is China able to export fruits and nuts?  Where do the farmers find the land
to grow such crops?  Are they cutting back on the production of grains?





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China, Japan, the Dollar

2004-03-30 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
What's China's share of all government purchases of U.S. assets?

*   A trade deficit must be financed by net borrowing from the
rest of the world. The United States was effectively spending about
5% more than it was producing last year, but cannot continue to
borrow at such a high rate indefinitely. Worse yet, the trade deficit
is growing each year as a share of GDP. The recent decline in the
value of the dollar -- which has fallen by 11.5% since February 2002,
primarily against the Euro -- indicates that foreign lenders are less
willing to supply new credit.
If the dollar were being supported by demand from investors who find
the U.S. market attractive, then steady growth in capital inflows
from private investors to finance rising deficits would likely occur.
However, private inflows have fallen in the last two years. Instead,
foreign governments have been intervening in foreign exchange markets
by purchasing a rapidly growing volume of U.S. government assets
(shown as foreign government assets in the United States in the
figure below). These inflows reached $208 billion in 2003, or 38.4%
of total capital inflows. Official government inflows were 50% of the
total in the fourth quarter of 2003.
Asian governments made 93% of all government purchases of U.S. assets
in 2003. Other governments were not intervening significantly in
foreign exchange markets because they expected the dollar to fall and
did not want to make money-losing investments. Asian governments,
especially Japan and China, are willing to absorb these risks in
order to support their exports to the United States1.
(Foreign Government Intervention Keeps the Value of the Dollar
Artificially High, March 22, 2004,
http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_03222004)
*
--
Yoshie
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php,  http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/
* Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
* Solidarity: http://www.solidarity-us.org/


Re: Russia-China: Putin's next term

2004-03-12 Thread Chris Doss
The strategic relationship with China idea goes back to the 1998 Primakov Doctrine put 
forward during the reign of Boris the Drunk, but has really developed under Putin as 
part of 1) the Shanghai Six group providing collective security in Central Asia and 2) 
the trilateral relationship between Russia, China and India, which is in part directed 
against the US.

Really, Putin has managed to become allies with everyone and enemies with no one 
largely by using one of Russia's built-in advantages (and defects): size. Russia is 
the one country that borders every center of world power. China needs Russia for 
energy and natural resources; the EU needs Russia for the same reason; the United 
States needs it to supply stability in Central Asia (though there's been a lot of what 
I consider pretty knee-jerk talk about the US thrusting Russia out of the 'stans and 
whatnot, in fact US and Russian activities there have been closely coordinated; the 
Kant base was opened not because the Kremlin is worried about US troops being 
Kyrgyzstan, but because it is worried that there are not enough. Actually if the US 
sent troops to guard the Tajik-Afghan border and relieve the Russian troops there, the 
Kremlin would probably applaud, not to mention the troops.).

-Original Message-
From: joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:21:49 -0800
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Russia-China: Putin's next term


 Say what you will, Putin is a smart guy.

 Joanna

 Eubulides wrote:

  http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FC12Ag01.html
 Putin to expand strategic partnership with China
 By Sergei Blagov
 Mar 12, 2004
 
 
 



Re: Russia-China: Putin's next term

2004-03-12 Thread Marvin Gandall
I read somewhere the Chinese felt betrayed when the Russians agreed to
let the Japanese, late entrants, divert the proposed West Siberian oil
pipeline from Daqing to Nakhodka for trans-shipment across the Sea of
Japan to Japan and beyond -- presumably to the US West Coast. The
Chinese evidently thought they had reached agreement in Moscow last year
that the oil would be directed their way. Now they're being told,  it
would seem from the Asia Times article, that they'll have to make do
with more limited and costly shipments by rail. How big an issue was/is
this, and was there any US role as far as you know?

Marv Gandall

- Original Message -
From: Chris Doss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Russia-China: Putin's next term


 The strategic relationship with China idea goes back to the 1998
Primakov Doctrine put forward during the reign of Boris the Drunk, but
has really developed under Putin as part of 1) the Shanghai Six group
providing collective security in Central Asia and 2) the trilateral
relationship between Russia, China and India, which is in part directed
against the US.

 Really, Putin has managed to become allies with everyone and enemies
with no one largely by using one of Russia's built-in advantages (and
defects): size. Russia is the one country that borders every center of
world power. China needs Russia for energy and natural resources; the EU
needs Russia for the same reason; the United States needs it to supply
stability in Central Asia (though there's been a lot of what I consider
pretty knee-jerk talk about the US thrusting Russia out of the 'stans
and whatnot, in fact US and Russian activities there have been closely
coordinated; the Kant base was opened not because the Kremlin is worried
about US troops being Kyrgyzstan, but because it is worried that there
are not enough. Actually if the US sent troops to guard the Tajik-Afghan
border and relieve the Russian troops there, the Kremlin would probably
applaud, not to mention the troops.).

 -Original Message-
 From: joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:21:49 -0800
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Russia-China: Putin's next term

 
  Say what you will, Putin is a smart guy.
 
  Joanna
 
  Eubulides wrote:
 
   http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FC12Ag01.html
  Putin to expand strategic partnership with China
  By Sergei Blagov
  Mar 12, 2004
  
  
  
 


Re: Russia-China: Putin's next term

2004-03-12 Thread Chris Doss
I wrote:
 ---
 I edited several articles on this subject a while back. My memory is fuzzy, but as 
 far as I recollect there was no US role. It was competitive lobbying by LUKoil and 
 Yukos; Yukos was favoring developing (completely hypothetical) shipments to the US 
 (and we all know what happened to Yukos), LUK was favoring some other development 
 strategy. (Transport limitations of the state oil-pipe network, Transneft, also 
 played a big role.) John Helmer wrote a lot on this; do a google and you'll find 
 material.

BTW, unlike in other big oil-producing countries, Russian oil companies are not 
state-owned, so the Kremlin cannot cut or increase oil production as it wishes. What 
it CAN do is to deny oil companies access to Transneft. Yukos spent the first half of 
last year aggressively lobbying to have TN privatized or be allowed to build 
alternative pipelines; there is some speculation that this is what finally did 
Khodorkovsky in.


Re: Russia-China: Putin's next term

2004-03-12 Thread Chris Doss
I read somewhere the Chinese felt betrayed when the Russians agreed to
let the Japanese, late entrants, divert the proposed West Siberian oil
pipeline from Daqing to Nakhodka for trans-shipment across the Sea of
Japan to Japan and beyond -- presumably to the US West Coast. The
Chinese evidently thought they had reached agreement in Moscow last year
that the oil would be directed their way. Now they're being told,  it
would seem from the Asia Times article, that they'll have to make do
with more limited and costly shipments by rail. How big an issue was/is
this, and was there any US role as far as you know?

Marv Gandall
---
I edited several articles on this subject a while back. My memory is fuzzy, but as far 
as I recollect there was no US role. It was competitive lobbying by LUKoil and Yukos; 
Yukos was favoring developing (completely hypothetical) shipments to the US (and we 
all know what happened to Yukos), LUK was favoring some other development strategy. 
(Transport limitations of the state oil-pipe network, Transneft, also played a big 
role.) John Helmer wrote a lot on this; do a google and you'll find material.


Russia-China: Putin's next term

2004-03-11 Thread Eubulides
 http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FC12Ag01.html
Putin to expand strategic partnership with China
By Sergei Blagov
Mar 12, 2004

MOSCOW - President Vladimir Putin, certain of re-election to a second
term, evidently intends to expand Russia's strategic ties with China in
military sales and economic cooperation between the two Asian giants.
Still, some divisive issues remain, such as the likely awarding of a major
Siberian oil pipeline to Tokyo, not Beijing. The United States is watching
closely and warily as the former communist allies forge powerful new ties
in Asia and view Washington as a potential menace.

In Sunday's election, Putin is expected to sweep to a second four-year
term and move ahead briskly with improving ties between Moscow and
Beijing.

Once China and Russia were closely allied, but later the Sino-Soviet split
opened and the United States took advantage of the bitter division to
forge new diplomatic relations with China, sidelining the Soviets. Now the
situation is very different, as both Russia and China espouse capitalism
and have resolved many of their differences in the face of what they
perceive to be a common rival - the US.

Last month, the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) said the United
States might anticipate potential problems with both China and Russia,
although the US currently has good relations with the two countries. The
US effort to seek bases in Central Asia - strategically important to both
Moscow and Beijing - is one of many causes of concern, as well as US
unilateralism in its foreign policy.

Testifying before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on February
25, Vice Admiral Lowell E Jacoby, director of the DIA, said Beijing
likely fears a long-term US presence on its borders, while Russia is
improving its relations with some countries, most notably China, in
pursuit of a multipolar world and to enhance its arms sales.

China the top customer for Russian arms
During Putin's first term, China consolidated its position as the top
customer for Russia's arms industry, purchasing billions of dollars' worth
of jet aircraft, missiles, submarines and other military hardware.

Russia and China were both disturbed by the Iraq war - especially the US
decision to attack without broad international support - and Moscow and
Beijing protested what they viewed as a rejection of the rules of the
international game. They still back the primacy of the United Nations
Security Council in resolving international crises, and they support the
principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of sovereign states.

Apart from shared concerns about US dominance in the Middle East, Asia and
elsewhere, the two nations have other common interests and mutually
reinforcing needs. They are weary of - and alarmed by - militant Islamic
groups in their border regions, and want stability in Central Asia.

Russia and China have said they hope to increase bilateral trade to US$20
billion a year, from the current $12 billion.

Last June, Chinese President Hu Jintao, leader of the world's most
populous nation, visited Russia on his first trip abroad and signed a
strategic energy pact with President Putin. Hu's speeches in Moscow
emphasized the importance of a multipolar world and the need for the UN to
play a central role in Iraq.

China, Russia now pledge eternal friendship
Last week, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing announced that presidents
Hu and Putin would meet in Beijing in the second half of this year. Li
also noted that the two nations share a 4,300-kilometer border - once the
site of major troop deployments and occasional skirmishes - and pledge to
be eternal friends. He also announced that chairman Wu Bangguo of China's
National People's Congress as well as Premier Wen Jiabao would visit
Russia this year to discuss enhancing their strategic partnership based on
common political, economic and military interests.

Russia's ongoing government reshuffle has sent some positive signals to
China. In an apparent reiteration of their shared belief in the primacy of
the UN in conflict resolution, Putin appointed UN Ambassador Sergei Lavrov
to be Moscow's new foreign minister. Putin also retained Defense Minister
Sergei Ivanov, a close ally who also has been mentioned as a possible heir
to the Kremlin leader in 2008. Ivanov has considerable China experience;
last year he and his Chinese counterpart, General Cao Gangchuan, agreed to
strengthen their defense cooperation. That will continue.

When Putin sacked the government of Mikhail Kasyanov on February 24, the
new prime minister, Mikhail Fradkov, pledged to pledged to develop the oil
sector and boost Russia's crude-oil output to ports in Asia.

However, some bilateral economic issues could prove divisive. Putin's
cabinet reshuffle eclipsed - but not in Beijing - the announcement this
month that Moscow would probably exclude China and accept a
Japanese-backed plan to build a new oil pipeline to Nakhodka. A formal
decision has

Re: Russia-China: Putin's next term

2004-03-11 Thread joanna bujes
Say what you will, Putin is a smart guy.

Joanna

Eubulides wrote:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FC12Ag01.html
Putin to expand strategic partnership with China
By Sergei Blagov
Mar 12, 2004




Hobbes and Darwin in China

2004-02-29 Thread jjlassen
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/29/weekinreview/29zhao.html

China's Wealthy Live by a Creed: Hobbes and Darwin, Meet Marx
By YILU ZHAO

BEIJING — The rich in China these days are moving into the villages of Napa
Valley, Palm Springs, Long Beach, Upper East Side and Park Avenue, all in the
suburbs of Beijing and Shanghai. When I grew up in Shanghai, places were called
New China Road, Workers' New Village and People's Square. Now China's real
estate tycoons have chosen American place names, and adorned what they build
with Spanish arches, Greek columns and faux Roman sculptures.

But the settings themselves are not bucolic. The vast majority of these new
single-family homes, which cost $800,000 on average, are huddled together in
walled compounds with 24-hour security guards. The few rich who dare to live on
their own in the countryside almost always become targets of burglars, who, in
desperate moments, are willing to kill.

This is the dark side to China's new wealth: Envy, insecurity and social
dislocation have come with the huge disparity between how the wealthy live and
how the vast numbers of poor do. Clear signs of class division have emerged
under a government that long claimed to have eliminated economic classes.

China still calls itself socialist, and in an odd sense it is. While the income
structure has changed, much that was intended to underpin social order has not.

The criminal justice system, for example, has remained draconian. When caught,
burglars invariably receive lengthy sentences. But there is no shortage of
burglars, and the reason is clear: 18 percent of Chinese live on less than $1 a
day, according to the United Nations. The poor are visible on the edges of any
metropolis, where slums of plywood apartments sometimes abut the Western-
looking mansions.

The most recent measure by which social scientists judge the inequality of a
country's income distribution indicates that China is more unequal, for
example, than the United States, Japan, South Korea and India. In fact,
inequality levels approach China's own level in the late 1940's, when the
Communists, with the help of the poor, toppled the Nationalist government.

In 1980, when the turn toward a market economy started, China had one of the
world's most even distributions of wealth. Certainly, China before 1980 was a
land of material shortage. When I was a child in the 1970's and 80's, I can
recall, every family, equally poor, collected ration coupons to get flour,
rice, sugar, meat, eggs, cloth, cookies and cigarettes. Without coupons, money
was largely useless. Today, huge Western-style supermarkets offer French wine
and New Zealand cheese.

But an odd change has come about in some shoppers' minds. As members of China's
business and political elite, they have come to believe that the world is a
huge jungle of Darwinian competition, where connections and smarts mean
everything, and quaint notions of fairness count for little.

I noticed this attitude on my most recent trip to China from the United States,
where I moved nine years ago. So I asked a relative who lives rather
comfortably to explain. Is it fair that the household maids make 65 cents an
hour while the well-connected real estate developers become millionaires or
billionaires in just a few years? I asked.

He was caught off guard. After a few seconds of silence, he settled on an
answer he had read in a popular magazine.

Look at England, look at America, he said. The Industrial Revolution was
very cruel. When the English capitalists needed land, sheep ate people.
(Chinese history books use the phrase sheep ate people to describe what
happened in the 19th century, when tenant farmers in Britain were thrown off
their land to starve so that sheep could graze and produce wool for new mills.)

Since England and America went through that pain, shouldn't we try to avoid
the same pain, now that we have history as our guide? I asked.

If we want to proceed to a full market economy, some people have to make
sacrifices, my relative said solemnly. To get to where we want to get, we
must go through the 'sheep eating people' stage too.

In other words, while most Chinese have privately dumped the economic
prescriptions of Marx, two pillars of the way he saw the world have remained.

First is the inexorable procession of history to a goal. The goal used to be
the Communist utopia; now the destination is a market economy of material
abundance.

Second, just as before, the welfare of some people must be sacrificed so the
community can march toward its destiny. Many well-to-do Chinese readily endorse
those views, so long as neither they nor their relatives are placed on the
altar of history. In the end, Marx is used to justify ignoring the pain of the
poor.

What the well-off have failed to read from history, however, is that extreme
inequality tends to breed revolutions. Many of China's dynasties fell in
peasant uprisings, and extreme inequality fed the Communist revolution.

While

Bestseller exposes social powderkeg in rural China

2004-02-21 Thread jjlassen
Bestseller exposes social powderkeg in rural China
—No-holds-barred book blows the lid on shocking injustices against the
country's 900 million peasants

Straits Times | 21 feb
by Chua Chin Hon

http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/story/0,4386,236301,00.html

BEIJING - Like any hot-blooded youth, peasant Ding Zuoming thought he would
prevail because he had the truth on his side.

So when corrupt village officials tried to levy illegal and exorbitant taxes
and fees on the residents of Luying village in eastern Anhui province, he
rallied his fellow peasants and demanded an audit.

He paid for that mistake with his life. The village chief ordered his arrest
and the local police beat him up so badly that he died in a hospital the
following day.

The incident happened on Feb 21, 1993. Mr Ding was the first farmer to be
beaten to death for protesting against unfair taxes and fees, though he was
hardly the last one, according to a new book chronicling the 'unimaginable
poverty and hardship' of farmers in Anhui.

Nearly 11 years after his death, the account of his fate is sending shock waves
through many Chinese cities where the book, An Investigation Of Chinese
Farmers, has become an unlikely best-seller. At least 100,000 copies have been
sold, and its entire content is available online.

While scholarly works on rural issues have been widely available for years,
none has had the mass market appeal of the book by Anhui writers Chen Guidi and
his wife Wu Chuntao.

Their book, at turns emotional, at turns strident, but mostly brimming with
anger at the injustice inflicted against the country's 900 million peasants,
touched a raw nerve among urban Chinese readers, many of whom are disengaged
from the plight of the rural areas and are fed a constant diet of rosy reports
from state TV.

Aside from corruption and police brutality, the book, the result of an
extensive three-year study, also details how already impoverished villages were
dragged further into debt by officials trying to score political points with
vanity projects.

When inspection tours by top leaders from the central government threatened to
blow the lid off their puffed-up reports, local officials orchestrated
elaborate schemes to fool them.

The book described one such scam in May 1998, when then premier Zhu Rongji
visited Anhui's Nanling county to check on the government's grain procurement
programme.

He was shown fully stocked granaries that had taken officials four days and
nights to fill with grain from other counties, because no one wanted to tell
the tough-talking premier the truth: that the programme had failed and that
many of Nanling's granaries sat empty.

Observers were surprised that the book named the villages, counties and
officials involved, many of whom are still in power.

More disturbingly, the authors said in interviews and webchats here that they
had pulled their punches, and what they witnessed was much worse in reality.

The couple wrote: 'Those who have not left the big cities think the whole of
China is like Beijing or Shanghai.

'We want to say that we have seen unimaginable poverty, unimaginable evil,
unimaginable suffering and desperation, unimaginable resistance and silence.'

The book casts a harsh and timely spotlight on the multitude of problems in
China's rural heartland, which experts fear could lead to social unrest as
legislators gear up for the annual legislative session next month.

A key debate will be on the 150-billion-yuan (S$30.6-billion) budget to raise
farmers' incomes and improve the agricultural sector.

The authors and several other experts have argued for years that lowering the
tax and fee burdens of peasants will not work without corresponding measures to
boost their incomes, which are now at least three to four times lower than
those of their urban counterparts.

Central government efforts to reduce their tax burden have been hobbled by
systemic corruption and non-compliance among local officials who exploit
loopholes and a lack of supervision to enrich themselves.

Authors Chen and Wu wrote: 'What we are facing is not just an agricultural
problem... It is simply the biggest social problem facing the new Chinese
leadership.

'We should not forget the farmlands just because we now have sparkling new
cities.

'If the 900 million peasants in China do not become well-off, all optimistic
economic forecasts are irrelevant.'

(the book is at http://finance.sina.com.cn/guest147.shtml for you Chinese
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Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-19 Thread Louis Proyect
Mike Ballard wrote:
Neither wage-labour nor state ownership will ever lead
to anything but capitalism.
This is not very dialectical.

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Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-19 Thread Devine, James
 From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Is there a shadow of socialism or social democracy left in China?

Ian answered: 
 One party rule and the penal code...

Of course, it depends what one means by the word socialism. When referring to a 
socio-economic system (mode of production), there are two main meanings here (which 
could be elaborated more, but I won't, given time constraints):

1) state ownership of the means of production. (This is a general meaning.) 

2) state ownership of the means of production combined with popular  and democratic 
ownership of the state by the working classes. (This is the traditional Western 
European meaning in the leftist movements.)

The first, more general definition, includes the second as a special case. It also 
includes state or bureaucratic socialism.

The first fits with Ian's usage above. The socialism of the People's Republic of 
China was based on a non-capitalist system of property, in which the means of 
production were owned by the state. The state was then controlled -- and effectively 
owned -- by the group that had a political monopoly, the Communist Party of China. 

The penal system (though horrible), however, is more a product of China's 
underdevelopment at the time than it was a matter of its state socialism: after all, 
most poor capitalist countries have similar systems, if not worse. The penal system 
also fits well with China's new capitalist face.

The CPC's political monopoly (and the penal system) are the basis for many of the 
leftist critiques of the old socialist China both in the West and in China itself. 
However, if you see that system not as part of the Western European socialist 
tradition as much as part of a nationalist effort to promote independent economic 
development, it fits with economic historian Alexander Gershenkron's observation that 
the more backward a country is when starting its industrialization drive the more 
statist is likely to be (at least if the drive is to be successful).  That is, from a 
Chinese nationalist perspective, the old Chinese socialism wasn't that bad (even 
though it fails the democratic and libertarian standards of the Western European 
socialist tradition). 

It should be mentioned also that the PRC's industrialization drive was (as far as I 
can tell, being a non-expert who can't read Chinese) more egalitarian than most 
poor-country efforts. This seems a result of the fact that the peasantry was so 
important to the process of putting the CPC into power. The urban working class 
resistance that Marty refers to may have also played a role. 

Mike Ballard wrote:
 Neither wage-labour nor state ownership will ever lead
 to anything but capitalism. 

I think that this is simplistic. State ownership of the means of production seems 
necessary to the rise of socialism and the eventual abolition of classes. But it isn't 
sufficient. In the USSR, there was state ownership, but the CPSU eventually decided to 
try to modernize, to turn many of its members into capitalists. But that isn't 
inevitable. Working class resistance could have prevented the re-establishment of 
capitalism (the conversion of bureaucratic socialism into capitalism) under Gorbachev 
and Yeltsin and could have pushed the system in the direction of socialism (definition 
#2). 

BTW, David Kotz has argued that Russia isn't currently capitalism. I think it's more 
accurate to say that it's not a capitalism that works well as a system. It's got wage 
labor, privatized ownership of the means of produciton, and other characteristics of 
capitalism, but is still quite f*cked up. 

Jim Devine



China: the peg

2004-02-19 Thread Eubulides
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=1518ncid=1518e=11u=/afp/20040219/bs_afp/china_forex_040219085615
Economists warn dramatic change in Chinese currency could spell disaster
Thu Feb 19, 3:56 AM ET

BEIJING, (AFP) - A growing number of economists are warning any dramatic
change in the Chinese currency could spell disaster for both China and the
world.

While a stronger yuan, also known as the renminbi, would do little for
developed economies, China itself would suffer, and financial crisis could
result in global markets, they said.

In an environment of heightened speculative enthusiasm, a sudden move in
the renminbi could incite intense speculation in the currency market,
Andy Xie, China economist for Morgan Stanley in Hong Kong, said in a
research note.

(This) may spark a major financial crisis in light of the massive
leverage that has built up in most asset classes during the current period
of a low Fed funds rate, he said.

China has pegged its currency at about 8.28 against the US dollar for the
past decade in a policy recently criticized by US politicians as costing
American jobs.

The central bank on Thursday denied financial authorities had decided for
a revaluation in the near future, calling reports to that effect
groundless.

The central bank statement, carried in the English-language China Daily,
also said the exchange rate system had served China well.

It is exactly under this exchange rate system that the renminbi
maintained its stability and fended off the impact from the Asian
financial crisis, it said.

The denials notwithstanding, Guan Tao, an official with China's State
Administration of Foreign Exchange, said he had already detected early
signs of speculative moves based on the foreign pressure on China.

Repeated American criticism has only encouraged flows of money into China
as investors bet Beijing would cave in and adjust the peg, Guan said in a
commentary in the state-controlled China Securities Journal.

China's own financial system would be far too fragile to cope with a
complete de-peg, according to Paul Coughlin, managing director of Standard
and Poor's Asia Pacific corporate and government ratings.

If there's a free float of the currency and removal of the exchange
controls... that would be very difficult for the banking system to
handle, he told a briefing in Beijing this week.

We think that would be very destabilizing for China's financial system.

But the ripple effects of a freely floating yuan could extend far beyond
the financial system, and cost jobs and incomes in the farthest corners of
China, observers warned.

If the earnings made from exports to American markets were to be worth
less in yuan terms, exporters in China's coastal areas would try to make
up for this by cutting wages.

Interior provinces depend on income remittance from their migrant workers
in the coastal export economy, Xie said.

Depressing the coastal export economy would have a more devastating
impact on the poor interior provinces.

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan both
have addressed the subject in what appears to be deliberately vague terms,
saying the yuan level would remain basically stable.

Some observers have interpreted this wording as an indication that a minor
revaluation, or widening of the current trading band in which the yuan
moves, is on the cards.

A scenario cited by some is for China to eventually peg its currency to a
basket of currencies, better reflecting the country's overall trading
relationships with the inclusion of, say, the euro and the yen.

While either solution would do little or nothing to shift production back
to the United States from China, they are at least feasible given the
current state of the Chinese economy, analysts said.

A small adjustment or a repegging of the currency to a basket of
currencies would not have a major impact, said S and P's Coughlin.


Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-19 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike Ballard wrote:
  Neither wage-labour nor state ownership will ever
 lead to anything but capitalism.

 I think that this is simplistic. State ownership of
 the means of production seems necessary to the rise
 of socialism and the eventual abolition of classes.

If the State is a really a proletarian democracy i.e.
if the working class actually controls the State and
uses it to dominate the capitalists whose property has
not yet been expropriated, then I'd say you were
right.  As for simplicity, the formula State ownership
= some kind of socialism, I'd disagree and side with
Engels who made the following distinctions:
***
I say have to. For only when the means of production
and distribution have actually outgrown the form of
management by joint-stock companies, and when,
therefore, the taking them over by the state has
become economically inevitable, only then -- even if
it is the state of today that effects this -- is there
an economic advance, the attainment of another step
preliminary to the taking over of all productive
forces by society itself. (Here following, note that
Engels is pointing to the alienation from power of the
working class i.e. society--MB)But of late, since
Bismarck went in for state-ownership of industrial
establishments, a kind of spurious socialism has
arisen, degenerating, now and again, into something of
flunkeyism, that without more ado declares all state
ownership, even of the Bismarckian sort, to be
socialistic. Certainly, if the taking over by the
state of the tobacco industry is socialistic, then
Napoleon and Metternich must be numbered among the
founders of socialism. If the Belgian state, for quite
ordinary political and financial reasons, itself
constructed its chief railway lines; if Bismarck, not
under any economic compulsion, took over for the state
the chief Prussian lines, simply to be the better able
to have them in hand in case of war, to bring up the
railway employees as voting cattle for the government,
and especially to create for himself a new source of
income independent of parliamentary votes -- this was,
in no sense, a socialistic measure, directly or
indirectly, consciously or unconsciously. Otherwise,
the Royal Maritime Company, [116] the Royal porcelain
manufacture, and even the regimental tailor of the
army would also be socialistic institutions.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/notes.htm



 But it isn't sufficient. In the USSR, there was
 state ownership, but the CPSU eventually decided to
 try to modernize, to turn many of its members into
 capitalists. But that isn't inevitable. Working
 class resistance could have prevented the
 re-establishment of capitalism (the conversion of
 bureaucratic socialism into capitalism) under
 Gorbachev and Yeltsin and could have pushed the
 system in the direction of socialism (definition
 #2).

In my opinion, the problem with this analysis is that
it assumes that the working class was conscious enough
to steer the State back onto the road to communism.  I
don't think it was.  I wish it had been.  I wish that
the working class had been in control of the USSR.
But  long before the time Gorby came to power, the
working class of the USSR had lost all but a
bureaucratic job opportunity of controlling the State
apparatus. Instead, the working class of the USSR
increasingly took on the passive stance of consumers
and had become so enamoured with the successes of
capitalist West that it (well most of it anyway)
welcomed the end of Communist Party dominance over the
political economy.  The majority thought (wrongly, of
course) they'd finally get the commodity laden
paradise they'd been promised for decades by embracing
free-enterprise.  VOA was very popular.  Obviously,
the CPSU had done little or nothing to encourage the
working class to grasp actually existing State power
during its tenure as  self-appointed, vanguard
bureaucracy.  Instead of leading the masses via their
bastardized wage-system to communism, they led them to
love the idea of being dazzled with successful
capitalism a la America herself.

Best,

Mike B)



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new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-18 Thread jjlassen
Shareholding System Becomes 'Major Trend' of China's Economic Development
Hong Kong Hsin Pao (Hong Kong Economic Journal) in Chinese 21 Nov 03 p 15
HSIN PAO (HONG KONG ECONOMIC JOURNAL)

In the article, entitled: New Theoretical Breakthrough of Third Plenary
Session carried in this column on 31 October, I had pointed out that the Third
Plenary Session of the 16th CPC Central Committee had done away with the
traditional view that state-owned and collective economies be taken as the main
means of realizing public ownership. It called for efforts to develop a mixed
ownership with the public capital as a shareholder and ensure that the joint-
stock system be taken as the main means of realizing public ownership. It also
permits the non-public capital to enter infrastructure, public utilities and
other sectors not prohibited by laws and regulations.

Theoreticians and economists in Beijing believed that this new theoretical
breakthrough would greatly help the development of the private sector and other
non-public sectors of the economy and the amalgamation of the public and non-
public sectors of the economy. The state-owned enterprises would carry out
restructuring on a large scale to become shareholding ones so as to vigorously
develop the mixed ownership system, let the non-public sectors of the economy
transform the public sectors of the economy, and bring about the sustainable
sound development of the entire economy.

Now, we will further elucidate this situation on the basis of our latest
information.

Theoretical Breakthrough on Ownership System Not Easy to Come By

A well-informed person in Beijing said that this new theoretical breakthrough
and formulation of making the joint-stock system the principal means of
realizing public ownership is an inexorable development since China started to
develop its reform and opening-up program and the reform of its economic
system. This is also an inevitable development to undauntedly explore the
various means of realizing public ownership on the basis of Deng Xiaoping's
requirements.

Deng Xiaoping had called for efforts to explore new means in realizing public
ownership, and stressed the need to do away with conventional ideas, when he
talked ab out the reform of state-owned enterprises in the early days of reform
and opening-up. With the continuous deepening of China's reform, the Chinese
Communists have understood more about the various effective means of realizing
public ownership. The Third Plenary Session of the 14th CPC Central Committee
pointed out that with the flow and reorganization of property rights, more and
more economic units with mixed ownership had cropped up. They might form a new
structure of property ownership.

The report of the 15th CPC National Congress said that public ownership can and
should take multiple forms in its realization. All governance methods and
organizational forms that reflect the laws relating to socialized production
may be utilized boldly. The joint stock system is a form of capital
organization of modern enterprises. It can be used both under capitalism and
under socialism. The Fourth Plenary Session of the 15th CPC Central Committee
pointed out that large and medium-sized state-owned enterprises, especially
those with good performance, may transform to joint-stock system by getting
listed if suitable, and in doing so they may develop mixed ownership through
cooperation and equity participation by different enterprises. The report of
the 16th CPC National Congress pointed out that enterprises should develop
mixed ownership, with the only exception of those in which the state holds sole
proprietorship.

The decision adopted by the Third Plenary Session of the 16th CPC Central
Committee further put forward: It is necessary to keep pace with the trend of
the continuous development of economic marketization, further vitalize the
public sector of the economy, and vigorously develop an economic system
supported by a form of mixed ownership with equity participation of the public
capital, collective capital, and non-public capital. Efforts must be made to
absorb investment from diversified channels and make the joint stock system the
principal means of realizing public ownership. From this perspective, we belie
ve that the Chinese Communists' high opinion about the joint stock system is
a continuation and development of its formulations on this subject in the past.
It is also an important achievement in exploring an effective means to
amalgamate public ownership with the market economy.

A theoretician in Beijing pointed out that the joint stock system is the
product of the development of socialized production and market economy to a
certain stage. It is also an effective form of capital organization and
business operation used by enterprises to sharpen their market competitiveness.
It will remain active in each passing day in China's economic activities and
play a significant role in accelerating economic development

Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Is there a shadow of socialism or social democracy left in China?
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-18 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Is there a shadow of socialism or social democracy left in China?

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One party rule and the penal code...

Ian


Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-18 Thread Martin Hart-Landsberg
There really is not much more than a shadow of socialism left in
China.  Many intellectuals in China that are considered marxists or
call themselves marxists are now basically advocating social democracy.

One of the biggest problems now in China is that the party has linked
socialism with what can only be understood as capitalist restoration.
And if we outside of the country reinforce that by calling what exists
in China as socialist, or market socialist, we will only further
discredit socialism in the eyes of workers there.

I should also add that while Chinese workers have certainly been
demobilized and forced to accept this restoration, Chinese workers do
have an important history of struggle for direct control over the
conditions of production.  They resisted party attempts to dominate and
control the conditions of production in the early 1950s, and again in
the late 1950s with strikes and direct actions on the shop floor.
There was another wave of resistance in the late 1960s during the
cultural revolution.  I could go on, but the point is that the Chinese
working class is far more than the passive mass of unorganized and
disinterested individuals that is commonly portrayed in the media.  The
party remains nervous for good reason about potential working class
action.

Most recently there have been some massive protests involving tens of
thousands of workers.  But these have been laid off state workers who
are protesting the conditions of their dismissal, not workers on
strike.   At the same time some of these protests have been led by
independent work based organizations, which is an important development.

Marty Hart-Landsberg

Quoting Eubulides [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Is there a shadow of socialism or social democracy left in China?

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 One party rule and the penal code...

 Ian



Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-18 Thread Mike Ballard
Neither wage-labour nor state ownership will ever lead
to anything but capitalism.


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China bubble mitosis - was: is AG blowing a China bubble

2004-02-12 Thread jjlassen
Thanks for posting the Bloomberg artice, Ian. What a huge story it is.

Beijing rolls out red carpet for the stars
—Capital offers incentives to lure talent to the city
SCMP | 12 feb
by Alice Yan and Alex Lo

Eager to compete with glamorous cousin Shanghai, Beijing is rolling out the red
carpet for foreign celebrities with the promise of streamlined visa access and
incentives to buy big-ticket items such as property and cars.

The capital has long been where the mainland's famous people make their names,
but Shanghai has become the destination of choice for entertainers from Taiwan,
Hong Kong and elsewhere.

From next month, the capital will fast-track the granting of residential
status, financial assistance - where appropriate - and tax breaks on big
purchases such as homes or cars.

Shanghai is the city where many stars like to live and spend their money. The
policy will give Beijing more charm for stars, said Dong Meiqi, editor of the
monthly magazine Star Times.

The initiative targets talent from abroad, as well as from Taiwan, Hong Kong
and Macau. Foreigners engaged in Beijing's cultural and sports sectors will be
able to come and go as they please on five-year multiple-entry visas, said
Huang Qiang, vice-director of the city's Personnel Bureau. Currently, they are
required to renew their visas annually.

Yang Heqing, a professor at the Capital University of Economics and Business,
said: Beijing is ambitious to become one of the world's cultural hot spots. A
flood of overseas visitors will come for the Olympic Games in 2008 eager to see
cultural things, not skyscrapers.

Andrew Lau Wai-keung, director of the blockbuster Hong Kong film trilogy
Infernal Affairs, said he would love to live in Beijing - or at least own a
house there.

It's a great city; a national city. Hong Kong is a very small city. Beijing
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is AG blowing a China bubble

2004-02-11 Thread Eubulides
Is Alan Greenspan Behind China's Bubble Too?: William Pesek Jr.
Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Globalization is globalizing the Federal Reserve.

It has 12 districts and acts based on U.S. events, but its influence has never been 
greater. It
isn't far-fetched to think of Latin America as the 13th district, Southeast Asia the 
14th, Russia
the 15th, China the 16th, and so on.

Perhaps it's not surprising, then, that some observers are blaming the Fed for 
problems in one of
its de facto, satellite districts. China, Asia's second-largest economy, is 
experiencing a dangerous
asset bubble, one that's making investors antsy.

It seems a reach to blame Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and his colleagues here in 
Washington. After
all, Asia isn't a huge blip on the Fed's radar screen these days. The Fed also has 
taken its share
of flack for the U.S. bubble of the late 1990s. But the U.S. central bank's global 
reach is being
felt in Asia.

``The Fed commitment to keeping interest rates low for a considerable period of time 
fueled
speculation in high-risk assets,'' says Andy Xie, Hong Kong-based chief economist at 
Morgan Stanley
Asia Ltd.

``The byproducts of this speculation,'' Xie explains, ``are the wealth effect on 
consumption in the
U.S. and the cheap capital-fueled investment boom in China -- the twin engines or 
bubbles, depending
on your perspective, for the global economy today.''

The cycle, Xie says, will end with either the Fed reversing its policy or with a 
financial accident
caused by the leverage building up in high-risk assets around the world. ``History 
would not be kind
to the Fed,'' Xie says. ``Its accommodation and even encouragement of speculative 
excesses would be
viewed as the primary cause of the massive bubble in the global economy today, the 
consequences of
which are yet to show.''

The Fed's culpability is debatable. What's not is that speculative capital flows into 
Asia reached a
record high last year, surpassing the previous peak in 1996.

The big recipients of capital in 1996 were Hong Kong, South Korea and Southeast Asia. 
This time,
it's China. Just like the capital flow destinations of the 1990s, China is 
experiencing an
investment bubble.

In 2003, East Asia's foreign-exchange reserves rose $234 billion more than the 
region's trade
surpluses. That compares with an average of $26 billion in the 1990s and $8.3 billion 
in the 1980s.
China and Japan were the main capital recipients in Asia last year.

The increase began in 2001, when the Fed cut interest rates aggressively to boost U.S. 
growth. Like
clockwork, China's foreign-exchange reserves rose by more than its trade surplus for 
the first time
since 1996. The inflows picked up speed and reached record levels last year.

What can be done about all this? China needs to tighten capital controls to slow the 
inflow, Xie
argues.

Such a step would be anathema to free-market aficionados and to the Group of Seven 
nations, which
last weekend renewed its call for flexible exchange rates. But the longer Beijing 
allows such rapid
inflows of speculative capital, the more difficult it will be to avoid a financial 
crisis.

Xie's views are contrarian, indeed, but it's hard to dismiss them. The vast majority 
of world
leaders, economists and investors think China's currency is undervalued and that 
Beijing should let
it rise. That was certainly the thrust of the G-7's latest communique.

But ``the appreciation of China's currency, which many advocate as the main means to 
cool the
bubble, would only encourage more speculation, as we saw in Southeast Asia,'' Xie 
says. ``The
resulting bigger bubble would make a hard landing inevitable.''

China may be presenting economists with a rare throw-away- the-textbooks situation. 
Established
macroeconomic models hold that more exchange-rate flexibility will squeeze some air 
out of China's
bubble and keep the economy from overheating. Freeing the yuan may do exactly the 
opposite.

Beijing has taken steps to cool its economy. The central bank, for example, increased 
reserve
requirements on commercial banks to curb money-supply growth. Higher interest rates in 
the U.S.
could help temper China's boom. Global investors are looking for hints on the subject 
when Greenspan
testifies in Congress this week.

``The massive swings in capital flows into Asia could only be explained by the 
speculative drives
that rise or ebb with some stimulus,'' Xie says. ``The stimulus is usually Fed policy 
changes.''

It's doubtful Greenspan is preoccupied with all this. But those speculating on China's 
rise should
keep two things in mind. One, the Fed's policy decisions here in Washington may have 
considerable
influence on China's outlook. Two, what markets think they know about China's currency 
policy could
be 100 percent wrong.



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William Pesek Jr. in Washington, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To contact the editor of this column:
Bill Ahearn in New York, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Japanese Business Ties With China Explode

2004-02-08 Thread jjlassen
http://www.ctnow.com/business/nationworld/ats-
ap_business15feb08,1,4715544.story?coll=sns-business-headlines

AP | 8 feb
by Joseph Coleman

KIMITSU, Japan -- One after another, red-hot slabs of metal emerge from the
blazing maws of the furnaces at Nippon Steel and are squeezed and stretched
into long, thin sheets -- perfect for car bodies or cell phones.
Their final destination? Increasingly, the answer is China.

Nippon Steel Corp. is one of many Japanese companies profiting from what's
called the China Boom. China has an exploding hunger for steel and
construction materials, cell phones, plasma TVs and autos, and the Japanese are
working overtime to fill it.

China swallows everything, said Takashi Kanke, a Nippon Steel official who
recently escorted two visitors around the sprawling works at Kimitsu, across
the bay from Tokyo. The mills are churning out steel at nearly full capacity
thanks to demand in China.

Driven by industrial output, export demand and investment, China's economy grew
a frenetic 9.1 percent in 2003, the highest rate since 1997. Japanese exporters
responded, boosting shipments to China by 33.2 percent to a record $62.9
billion. Exports to China have more than doubled since 2000, though they still
are only about half of exports to the United States.

The emergence of the Chinese market as an engine for growth in Asia is also
speeding Japan's shift of production to China. Nippon Steel agreed to a joint
venture with China's top steel producer in December, Japanese brewers like
Asahi are muscling into the world's biggest beer market, and electronics maker
Matsushita, whose China sales have more than tripled since 1998, recently made
the country the core of its global strategy.

The Japanese -- along with American and European companies also making money in
China -- are betting the trend will continue, boosted in part by construction
and other opportunities generated by the 2008 Beijing Olympics and the 2010
Shanghai World Expo. Estimates say Chinese growth will slow somewhat in 2004 --
to 8 percent or more.

The China boom is so strong it is playing a key role in fueling Japan's
recovery, a rebound many hope will finally lift the world's second largest
economy out of the humiliating slump where it has languished since the early
1990s.

Jesper Koll, chief economist for Merrill Lynch Japan, said the short-lived
growth surges in Japan over the past decade have often been narrow, based on
automotive sales in the United States, for example.

Now it's a very broad-based recovery in Japan, he said. It's all China.

The rapid deepening of business ties between Asia's largest economy and its
most populous nation, however profitable, does make the Japanese a little
nervous.

Everyone from steel executives to the Bank of Japan is warning of potentially
destabilizing inflation brought on by an overheated Chinese economy. Even those
at the forefront of Japan's push into its neighbor's economy say social or
political turmoil could suddenly turn the Chinese boom into a bust.

Some also worry that Japan is feeding the behemoth that will one day overtake
it economically and politically. Already, an increasingly confident China is
chipping away at Japan's influence in the rest of Asia, and Tokyo has watched
uneasily as Beijing's relations have warmed with Washington.

Political ties between Japan and China are troubled. Japanese Prime Minister
Junichiro Koizumi's repeated visits to a shrine honoring war dead -- including
the architects of Tokyo's invasion of China in the 1930s -- have drawn protests
from Beijing. The Chinese also suspect they are the target of closer military
cooperation between Tokyo and Washington.

Political relations are the biggest risk, conceded Shinji Shimahara, general
secretary of the Japan-China Investment Promotion Organization. Some people
have fear, some don't -- I don't know which side is right.

But Shimahara and many others involved in business with China have come to the
same conclusion: Japan has no choice but to sell to China.

Before the China risk, there is the China opportunity, said Yuki Iriyama,
general manager of Nippon Steel's overseas business division. Almost all of
Japanese industry is looking at China as a prospective big market.

The steel industry illustrates both the opportunities and the risks of that
market.

Chinese demand has helped boost Japanese production over the doldrums it hit in
the mid-1990s, and was largely credited with the 2.6 percent increase in
Japanese steel output in 2003.

Even more important, the Chinese appetite for steel has triggered a global
recovery of steel prices, allowing companies like Nippon Steel to make a
bundle. For the six months ending Sept. 30, the company reported a group net
profit of $348.5 million, a comeback from the $48.1 million loss suffered in
the same period in 2002.

Company officials say direct shipments to China account for about 20 percent of
its total exports, up to about 2 million tons a year, making

Made in China -- With Neighbors' Imports

2004-02-05 Thread jjlassen
Made in China -- With Neighbors' Imports
¡ªRegion Growing Dependent on Giant Market

Washington Post | 5 feb
by Peter S. Goodman
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14093-2004Feb4.html

TANGKAK, Malaysia -- With a decisive yank of his long-handled scythe, the
worker sliced away a palm frond, then pulled magenta-ripe bunches of fruit down
to the soil. The harvest of the Sagil Estates palm oil plantation began its
journey to the ports of China, a route that traces a reordering of the global
economy.

Workers swept the chestnutlike fruit into woven baskets and dumped it into a
cart pulled by a water buffalo. The cart carried the fruit to a truck that
hauled it to a nearby mill, where steaming cookers extracted its juices. The
resulting oil would be pumped aboard tankers and shipped to points worldwide --
more than one-fifth of it to China. There, it would grease the cooking pots of
the world's most populous country, fill the fryers of instant-noodle factories
and yield cosmetics and soap.

As China's economy rapidly adds mass, it strengthens its pull on the rest of
Asia. Rubber plantations in southern Thailand are filling demand for tires as
China's auto industry accelerates by 75 percent a year. Rice farmers in
northern Thailand now ship half of their premium jasmine rice exports to China
and Hong Kong. Steelmakers in Japan and Korea, supplying the spines of the
skyscrapers filling China's cities, now call China their largest customer.
Computer chip plants in Taiwan, Korea and Malaysia press to satisfy the demand
from the factories of coastal China, which now assemble vast quantities of
electronics. And as China seeks to diversify its sources of energy while
struggling to meet demand for power, it is tapping oil and gas fields in
Indonesia and Australia.

In the United States, Europe and Japan, fretful attention has been trained on
the $438 billion worth of goods that China exported last year, provoking talk
that its rise as a trade power is decimating manufacturing communities in the
rest of the world. But here in Southeast Asia, the focus has largely shifted to
the counterpart number -- the $413 billion worth of goods China imported last
year, with the region's economies capturing a disproportionate share of the
spoils.

Last year, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore and the Philippines all saw exports to
China swell by more than 50 percent, helping to change perceptions of China
from potential threat into a land of opportunity. But the shipments also create
some new concerns: Southeast Asia's dependence means that its own growth could
be vulnerable if China's economy cools. And as Chinese manufacturing grows in
sophistication, it likely will eat into the flow of finished products those
countries send directly to the United States, Europe and Japan.

For now, the biggest problem is simply keeping up with demand as China's
relentless industrial expansion absorbs larger quantities of material. During
the first nine months of 2003, China bought more than $15 billion worth of
machinery and transportation equipment from Southeast Asia, according to
Goldman Sachs, a leap of more than 70 percent from the same period a year
earlier. Over the same period, China's imports of minerals, oils, chemicals,
plastics and rubber from Southeast Asia jumped by half, to $6.4 billion.

For 2003, China was our biggest buyer, said Yong Chin Fatt, general manager
of the commodities section at IOI Group, the Malaysian conglomerate that owns
Sagil Estates along with more than 60 other palm oil plantations. Malaysia's
shipments of palm oil to China have nearly doubled over the past two years as
has the price for its crop. IOI is now planting new acreage in anticipation of
greater demand. We don't see China as a threat, Yong said. We see China as a
savior.

Sarasin Viraphol, executive vice president at the Charoen Pokphand Group Co.
Ltd., a Thailand-based poultry conglomerate that was the first official foreign
investor in the People's Republic of China, once worried that Southeast Asia
could be wiped out by a flood of low-cost goods from the Middle Kingdom. Now,
he sees it differently.

If you make Chinese people richer, they are going to want all those things
people want, he said. Can you imagine 1.3 billion people eating the way
Americans eat? There might not be enough chicken in all the world.

In recent months, China's leaders have signaled that they fear the economy
could be overheating, tightening credit flowing to the country's fastest-
growing sectors such as autos and real estate. They are cognizant that too much
investment can spawn a disastrous bubble, a supply glut that eventually sends
prices down. If such an unraveling were to occur in real estate, it could force
China's banks, already stocked with some $500 billion in bad loans, to write
off tens of billions more.

Most economists now expect China to slow somewhat this year from a torrid pace
that has seen growth in excess of 9 percent a year for the past two

China: Fears of social unrest as rural land grab worsens

2004-02-05 Thread jjlassen
Fears of social unrest as rural land grab worsens
40 million farmers have lost out in the name of progress

SCMP | 5 feb
by Nailene Chou Wiest
http://www.chinastudygroup.org/index.php?type=newsid=4619

Each year two million mainland farmers lose their land and drift into the
cities, only to be unable to secure a job or an education for their children.
About 40 million farmers have been driven from the land nationwide and
discontent over corruption and the low compensation they have been paid could
seriously affect social stability unless their rights are better protected.

This warning, published in the official People's Daily on Monday, was the
latest call for the government to address land abuse, which is likely to be the
hot issue at the annual conference of the National People's Congress next
month.

The problem has become acute since the campaign to develop the west accelerated
the seizure of land from farmers for roads, dams, utilities and industrial
parks.

Half of the land appropriated by local governments had been resold to
commercial developers, the report said.

The farmers in those areas were paid a maximum of 18,000 yuan - enough to live
for seven years in the countryside or two years in towns.

Various taxes and levies are often deducted from the compensation or the
payments are delayed for years, forcing thousands of landless farmers to join
the swelling ranks of disgruntled people who have petitioned Beijing in the
past two years.

Under the constitution, all land belongs to the state or collectives. Only
governments can acquire land and seizures are often carried out in the name of
economic development or job creation. But in reselling the land at higher
prices to developers, local governments often pocket most of the profits.

The People's Daily article called for measures to increase the amount of
compensation and allow farmers to share any profits from resales.

It also urged local governments to take more responsibility for creating jobs
and providing housing for dispossessed farmers.

A resolution at the third plenum of the 16th Communist Party Congress last
October stated that the wanton appropriation of farmland must be curbed to
protect the rights of farmers and the security of the nation's grain production.

Minister of Land and Resources Sun Wensheng announced in December that the
government would put land officials below provincial level under the ministry's
control, therefore depriving local governments of the right to control land use.

Mr Sun said that close to half of the nation's 6,015 economic development zones
had either been abolished or merged, and about 168,000 land fraud cases were
investigated.

At a recent meeting on fighting corruption, state investigators said that this
year they would focus more on social injustices such as abuses by officials in
land acquisitions.



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China: Amnesty called on corporate crimes

2004-02-02 Thread jjlassen
Amnesty called on corporate crimes

In a promising sign for the wider private economy, firms in Hebei province will
be 'forgiven' for financial misconduct

SCMP | 2 feb
by Wang Xiangwei

In what could turn out to be a watershed in the mainland's stop-go efforts to
liberate the private economy, Hebei province is forgiving private businessmen
for the economic crimes they committed as they worked to get their companies
off the ground.

Hebei, a mainly agricultural province, has drafted regulations stipulating it
will no longer take legal proceedings against bosses of private firms for
economic crimes and irregularities they committed in the initial development of
their businesses, generally known as original sin.

Sheng Hong, the director of the Unirule Institute of Economics in Beijing,
thinks the rule is reasonable.

Laws have changed from what they were two decades ago, when the reform and
opening-up policy was adopted, he said.

Many things which were regarded as illegal are now legal and those who were
law-breakers then should not face punishment now.

As other provinces are expected to follow suit, the move could mark the
beginning of a new development phase for the mainland's private sector.

This should also be good news for Hong Kong. More mainland private businesses
would be willing to seek public share offerings and raise money in capital
markets without fear that raising profiles would attract the attention of
official investigators and land their bosses in trouble, or even jail.

The mainland's private businesses started to emerge in the early 1980s and
flourished in the 1990s, but the official view has largely remained ambivalent.

While private businesses play an increasingly important role in creating jobs
and driving the economy forward, they have long played second fiddle to the
state sector, with little access to bank loans and policy support.

As a result, on their growth paths, most private businesses have a dubious past
of dodging taxes, bribery to obtain bank loans or land deals and engaging in
other economic irregularities.

After more than 20 years of development, private businesses have become the
backbone of the economy in many provinces, particularly in coastal regions such
as Zhejiang and Guangdong. However, they have also been the targets of
investigations for irregularities committed a long time ago.

This has prompted some private businessmen to move their hard-earned profits
overseas instead of investing them in long-term developments on the mainland.

According to the Hebei document - released early last month but only reported
by the China Youth Daily on Saturday - the authorities would not prosecute
bosses of private firms if crimes committed in the initial stages of
development had outlived their validity period stipulated in the mainland's
criminal code.

Even during the validity period, the provincial authorities would consider
lenient or suspended sentences, depending upon the nature and scale of the
crimes, their consequences and the repentance of offenders.

Gu Yongzhong, a legal professor at China University of Political Science and
Law and a director of the China Procedural Law Research Institute, says that
according to Chinese criminal law authorities cannot prosecute anyone if their
crime has outlived the validity period.

According to the law, the validity period for crimes carrying a maximum penalty
of no more than five years' imprisonment are five years, and 15 years for
crimes carrying the maximum penalty of 10 years or more

But Professor Gu said things were often different in practice.

There are cases when private firm bosses have been prosecuted even when the
case is outside the validity period. There's no point backdating crimes to when
the legal and economic environments were far from sound, Professor Gu said.

Many private companies have grown large, hired many employees and contributed
greatly to the country. Stiff punishments do China no good.

Sun Dawu, a well-known Hebei private entrepreneur convicted of illegally taking
deposits, said he found the report confusing.

I read the report twice and I still don't understand what it means. What
is 'original' sin? Is it applicable to my case? I don't think it means much to
me now anyway because I had been convicted, he said when asked to comment on
the new rules.

Zhang Xingshui, a lawyer who defended Mr Sun, called the new rules a friendly
gesture by the Hebei authorities although their exact application might be
vague.

It is a good gesture. It signals that there is a change in the attitude of
Hebei officials to private enterprises and it is a positive change, he said.




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U.S., China Are on Collision Course Over Oil

2004-02-02 Thread jjlassen
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-luft2feb02,1,370578.story?
coll=la-news-comment-opinions

LA Times | 2 feb
Gal Luft

Sixty-seven years ago, oil-starved Japan embarked on an aggressive expansionary
policy designed to secure its growing energy needs, which eventually led the
nation into a world war. Today, another Asian power thirsts for oil: China.
While the U.S. is absorbed in fighting the war on terror, the seeds of what
could be the next world war are quietly germinating. With 1.3 billion people
and an economy growing at a phenomenal 8% to 10% a year, China, already a net
oil importer, is growing increasingly dependent on imported oil. Last year, its
auto sales grew 70% and its oil imports were up 30% from the previous year,
making it the world's No. 2 petroleum user after the U.S. By 2030, China is
expected to have more cars than the U.S. and import as much oil as the U.S.
does today.

Dependence on oil means dependence on the Middle East, home to 70% of the
world's proven reserves. With 60% of its oil imports coming from the Middle
East, China can no longer afford to sit on the sidelines of the tumultuous
region. Its way of forming a footprint in the Middle East has been through
providing technology and components for weapons of mass destruction and their
delivery systems to unsavory regimes in places such as Iran, Iraq and Syria. A
report by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, a group
created by Congress to monitor U.S.-China relations, warned in 2002 that this
arms trafficking to these regimes presents an increasing threat to U.S.
security interests in the Middle East. The report concludes: A key driver in
China's relations with terrorist-sponsoring governments is its dependence on
foreign oil to fuel its economic development. This dependency is expected to
increase over the coming decade.

Optimists claim that the world oil market will be able to accommodate China and
that, instead of conflict, China's thirst could create mutual desire for
stability in the Middle East and thus actually bring Beijing closer to the U.S.

History shows the opposite: Superpowers find it difficult to coexist while
competing over scarce resources. The main bone of contention probably will
revolve around China's relations with Saudi Arabia, home to a quarter of the
world's oil. The Chinese have already supplied the Saudis with intermediate-
range ballistic missiles, and they played a major role 20 years ago in a Saudi-
financed Pakistani nuclear effort that may one day leave a nuclear weapon in
the hands of a Taliban-type regime in Riyadh or Islamabad.

Since 9/11, a deep tension in U.S.-Saudi relations has provided the Chinese
with an opportunity to win the heart of the House of Saud. The Saudis hear the
voices in the U.S. denouncing Saudi Arabia as a kernel of evil and proposing
that the U.S. seize and occupy the kingdom's oil fields. The Saudis especially
fear that if their citizens again perpetrate a terror attack in the U.S., there
would be no alternative for the U.S. but to terminate its long-standing
commitment to the monarchy - and perhaps even use military force against it.

The Saudis realize that to forestall such a scenario they can no longer rely
solely on the U.S. to defend the regime and must diversify their security
portfolio. In their search for a new patron, they might find China the most
fitting and willing candidate.

The risk of Beijing's emerging as a competitor for influence in the Middle East
and a Saudi shift of allegiance are things Washington should consider as it
defines its objectives and priorities in the 21st century. Without a
comprehensive strategy designed to prevent China from becoming an oil consumer
on a par with the U.S., a superpower collision is in the cards. The good news
is that we are still in a position to halt China's slide into total dependency.

Unlike the U.S., China's energy infrastructure is largely underdeveloped and
primarily coal-based. It has not yet invested in a multibillion-dollar oil
infrastructure. China is therefore in a better position than the U.S. to bypass
oil in favor of next-generation fuels.

The U.S. should embark on a frank dialogue with China, conveying to the Chinese
the mutual benefits of circumventing oil and offering any assistance required
to curb China's growing appetite for it. A shift from oil into other sources of
transportation energy - such as bio-fuels or coal-based fuels, hydrogen and
natural gas - could prevent future conflict and foster unprecedented Sino-
American cooperation with significant economic benefits for both countries.

The Chinese would probably leapfrog oil if they could. Dependency of any kind
is foreign to their culture. But without substantial American technological
support, China is likely to follow the path of least resistance and become a
full-fledged oil economy. Failure to address the issue with the utmost care
would undercut all of today's costly efforts by the U.S. to reform

Re: U.S., China Are on Collision Course Over Oil

2004-02-02 Thread Eubulides
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-luft2feb02,1,370578.story?
coll=la-news-comment-opinions

LA Times | 2 feb
Gal Luft

Sixty-seven years ago, oil-starved Japan embarked on an aggressive
expansionary
policy designed to secure its growing energy needs, which eventually led
the
nation into a world war. Today, another Asian power thirsts for oil:
China.
While the U.S. is absorbed in fighting the war on terror, the seeds of
what
could be the next world war are quietly germinating. With 1.3 billion
people
and an economy growing at a phenomenal 8% to 10% a year, China, already a
net
oil importer, is growing increasingly dependent on imported oil. Last
year, its
auto sales grew 70% and its oil imports were up 30% from the previous
year,
making it the world's No. 2 petroleum user after the U.S. By 2030, China
is
expected to have more cars than the U.S. and import as much oil as the
U.S.
does today.


===

Right wing Sino-phobic pessimism struggling to create a self-fulfilling
prophecy:

The Energy Dept. says that world growth in petroleum has averaged 1.5% a
year since 1995, despite China's growth. [latest issue of Business Week]


Dr. Gal Luft is founder and co-director of the Institute for the Analysis
of Global Security (IAGS). He is a former lieutenant colonel in the Israel
Defense Forces. In his military career, Luft commanded battalions in
southern Lebanon, the Golan Heights, and YESHA (Judea, Samaria and Gaza)
and worked with the Palestinian Authority since its inauguration in 1994.
He is an associate fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy
and is the author of The Palestinian Security Forces: Between Police and
Army (Washington DC, 1998), as well as several articles on
Israeli-Palestinian security issues published in Foreign Affairs,
Commentary Magazine, Middle East Quarterly, and Middle East Review of
International Affairs. Luft is a graduate of Bar Ilan University and holds
a doctorate in Strategic Studies from the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced
International Studies (SAIS), Johns Hopkins University.
http://www.acpr.org.il/people/gluft.html


Re: U.S., China Are on Collision Course Over Oil

2004-02-02 Thread John Gulick
Ian Murray wrote:

Right wing Sino-phobic pessimism struggling to create a self-fulfilling
prophecy:
The Energy Dept. says that world growth in petroleum has averaged 1.5% a
year since 1995, despite China's growth. [latest issue of Business Week]
Dr. Gal Luft is founder and co-director of the Institute for the Analysis
of Global Security (IAGS). He is a former lieutenant colonel in the Israel
Defense Forces. etc. etc. etc.
Gulick writes:

Having briefly looked at the piece by the esteemed Dr. Luft which Jonathan
Lassen sent out over the wire, I'll say this much: Luft epitomizes the
classic good cop/bad cop US foreign policy disposition toward the PRC, where
the realist Kissingerians and the neo-cons are archly fused into one.
Sounding the yellow peril alarm is not an end-in-itself, but both an end and
a means to leverage the
PRC in a geo-economic marriage of convenience with the US, to prolong the
US' dying hegemony.
On the one hand, the health of US finance capital hinges on the health of
increasingly neo-liberal accumulation in the PRC, which in turn hinges on
China overcoming its myriad raw material input bottlenecks, namely its
primary energy bottleneck. On the other hand, the US at all costs must curb
the development of an autonomous PRC powerhouse. So says Luft, we'll
transfer renewable energy technology at a bargain basement rate, you stop
cutting independent petroleum production and sourcing deals with Persian
Gulf and Central Asian states. If you don't conform, we'll sound the yellow
peril alarm, this time framed in politically timely terms of proliferating
arms to Middle Eastern bad guys.
But heightening big power (dare I say inter-imperialist when one of the
principals is the PRC) rivalry over primary energy reservoirs _is_ a real
deal grounded in geological facticity, not a scare story dreamed up by
spooks and right-wing think-tank demagogues. The PRC really turned the
corner into full-blown Rostowian take-off last year, what with 30 percent
increase in oil consumption, and
the private automobile fleet growing by leaps and bounds. Chinese ecological
socialism sooner or
barbarism later, my friends.
John Gulick

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pan-ops in China

2004-01-24 Thread jjlassen
http://www.chinastudygroup.org/index.php?type=newsid=4494

(still peanuts compared to the 200,000 pan-ops working just in Securitas (which
ate up Pinkerton and Burns in 1999-2000)

(also - note Shenyang is the Flint Michigan of China, see:
http://www.chinastudygroup.org/index.php?type=articleid=45
for more)

In China, private eyes spy from legal twilight zones
 Knight Ridder | 23 jan
 by Tim Johnson

SHENYANG, China - Out of China's chaotic race to capitalism, an army of private
detectives has emerged to find abundant work tracing bogus goods, tailing
swindlers and capturing philandering spouses on videotape.

By some estimates, 700 to 1,000 small investigations companies now ply their
trade, employing tens of thousands of paid informants, stalkers, disguise
artists, cameramen and part-time snoops.

Like much business in China, the industry exists in a legal twilight zone.
Banned by the central government in 1993, private detective agencies became
semi-legal again after a 2002 court ruling. Even so, there's no central
registry, no federal licensing and only fuzzy legal interpretation about how
gumshoes may operate.

My understanding is that anything that is not specifically banned is legal,
said Kang Yongchun, the deputy director of the Kedun Detective Office
(www.kedun-detective.com) in Shenyang, an industrial city about 400 miles
northeast of Beijing.

Detective agencies in China do little advertising, preferring to maintain a low
profile. But they were thrust into the spotlight after the brutal beating death
of a detective Dec. 13 in Beijing.

A disgruntled vendor had hired the 39-year-old detective, Huang Lirong, to
snoop on the owner of an herbal medicine shop. Huang's body was dumped in front
of Beijing Hospital hours after the medicine shop owner spotted him and
confronted him, the China Daily newspaper reported.

Looking philosophical, and exuding the confidence of a lengthy career in law
enforcement, Meng Guanggang, the owner of the Kedun Detective Office,
said: Private detectives are people who walk on the edge. You try to
accomplish your goal by all means. If you think it's right, and within the law,
then go ahead and do it.

In China's rough-and-tumble environment, business owners often view signed
contracts as less than ironclad agreements. Swindles are common. Debts mount.
Police rarely delve into such disputes.

If you've been cheated by a swindler, you can report the case to the police.
But you have to produce evidence. You have to tell the police where the guy is,
where the company is, Meng said.

While Meng is low-key, other detectives take their cues from popular fiction
and B-list movies, employing a practiced bluster to sell their skills.

I'm a rare talent. They can't find a talent like me, Wei Wujun, perhaps
China's most widely publicized private detective, announced to a reporter.

Like many detectives, Wei, who operates from Shanghai and the southwestern city
of Chengdu, spends a lot of time, video camera in hand, tailing men who cheat
on their wives.

We stay in the next room and record everything, Wei said as he slapped a
videocassette in a VCR to show some footage. See? The lens is not directed at
the bed. We just want to prove that they did that. We try to protect their
dignity and privacy.

Under new Chinese law, wronged wives may receive assets from their unfaithful
husbands if they prove infidelity. Courts now accept videotaped evidence as
such proof.

Laws prohibit private investigators from carrying guns or recovering private
debts, but Wei, like others, finds ways to help clients, even mounting sting
operations.

Wei said a software company summoned him when it discovered an employee
pilfering software source code and selling it on the sly.

We set up a trap. I went in with a guy who is a close friend of that staff
member, and acted as a potential buyer, Wei said, asserting that he solved the
case.

When some 150 private detectives, lawyers and other experts gathered in late
December in Hangzhou to discuss the outlook for private investigations, much of
the talk centered on competitive intelligence, such as tracing counterfeit
goods and identifying thefts of industrial know-how.

In China, they are able to manufacture everything from pins to airplanes. They
can counterfeit anything, said Ponnosamy Kalastree, the regional executive
director for the Council of International Investigators, an industry group
based in Seattle.

So the market is booming for investigators to check into purloined
manufacturing technology. They also profile potential business partners for
clients, probe shipping fraud and track down vanished business partners.

China is a big country. It is a heaven for people to disappear, said
Kalastree, who heads a security firm in Singapore. Their technology is still
not very advanced for tracing missing persons.

U.S. and European security consulting companies are present in China but they
largely stick to insurance fraud and safeguarding foreign products

Is China the next bubble?

2004-01-18 Thread Louis Proyect
(Spoke to an old friend from the Trotskyist movement last night, who had
returned from a 2-week vacation trip to China. Two things stuck out. One
was the hyper-development that is like nothing he has ever seen, not even
in his home-town Los Angeles. There are vast commercial and residential
developments all around Peking and Shanghai that dwarf anything he saw in
his previous trip 15 years ago. The other thing was the persistence of
socialist consciousness, even in the most unlikely places. One of his hosts
was what might be described as a yuppie living in a lavish apartment with
an impressive view of Peking. She was as committed to communism as anybody
on this mailing list and saw China's current stage of capitalist
development as a necessary first step to achieving a classless society. In
other words a kind of neo-Kautskyism.)
NY Times, January 18, 2004
Is China the Next Bubble?
By KEITH BRADSHER
DONGGUAN, China

THE prospectus for China Green Holdings Ltd. looks a little like a seed
catalog. Color photographs show the corn, cabbage, pickled plums and other
vegetables that the company exports, mostly to Japan. There is even a
helpful list of the growing times for broccoli, cauliflower and sweet peas;
it is tucked between tables showing that the company earned $14.1 million
on sales of $31.2 million in its last fiscal year.
Though China Green's business literally involves small potatoes - cubed and
shipped in plastic bags - its initial public offering in Hong Kong was
anything but. Retail investors put in bids to buy more than 1,600 times as
many shares as were available for sale, making it the most oversubscribed
I.P.O. ever in Hong Kong. The stock jumped 58 percent last Tuesday, its
first day of trading.
Japan had its bubble in the late 1980's, when the Imperial Palace grounds
in Tokyo became worth more than all the land in California. Thailand and
Indonesia had their bubbles in the mid-1990's, when speculators and
multinationals poured money into what seemed like a Southeast Asian
miracle. The United States had its Internet and telecommunications bubble
in the late 1990's, when stock prices looked as if they could rise
indefinitely and unemployment kept hitting new lows.
Each of those bubbles ended badly, with millions of families losing their
savings and many losing their jobs.
As 2004 begins, China's economy looks as invincible as the Japanese,
Southeast Asian and American economies of those earlier times. But recent
excesses - from a frenzy of factory construction to speculative inflows of
cash to soaring growth in bank loans - suggest that China may be in a
bubble now, especially on the investment side of the economy.
Bubbles can last years before they pop, but they seldom deflate painlessly
when they do. Nobody knows how harmful a sharp economic slowdown would be
to China, a country undergoing huge social changes, like the migration of
peasants to the cities. The Communist Party rests its legitimacy on
delivering consistent annual increases in prosperity.
The Chinese government is showing concern. In the last few weeks, the
central bank has tried to dissuade banks from reckless lending while the
government has bailed out two of the largest ones, to prepare them for
possible hard times as well as planned stock sales. The State Council,
China's cabinet, has warned that it will discourage further construction of
new factories in industries like aluminum and steel, whose capacity has
grown swiftly in the last three years.
Because China is now so important to the global economy and to global
political stability, the possibility of economic trouble is starting to
draw serious attention among economists and China specialists.
Huge billboards in Guangdong Province commemorate Deng Xiaoping's decision
a quarter-century ago to allow capitalism to gain a foothold in a few
cities here in southeastern China. Practically ever since, China's
astounding economic growth has provoked warnings that the boom may not be
sustainable. Year after year, China has proved the worriers wrong, although
there have been a few missteps along the way, most notably when inflation
surged temporarily and foreign exchange reserves withered in the early 1990's.
But even by Chinese standards, things have been moving at a blistering pace
of late. Official statistics, which the government tends to smooth so as
not to indicate big booms or busts, show that the economy expanded 8.5
percent last year, despite the fact that growth came to a virtual halt
during the second quarter because of an outbreak of SARS. According to
independent economists, however, the Chinese economy actually expanded at
an annual pace of 11 percent to 13 percent through the second half of last
year.
Strains are already showing. Blackouts have become a problem in a majority
of China's provinces, as families with new air-conditioners and
refrigerators compete with new factories for electricity. Auto sales soared
75 percent last year, as prices in a market protected

The Internet in China as a tool of the poor

2004-01-16 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, January 16, 2004
Chinese Go Online in Search of Justice Against Elite Class
By JIM YARDLEY
HARBIN, China, Jan. 14 — On Oct. 16, the day she died, Liu Zhongxia was 
riding in her onion cart when it scraped a sedan. Usually her death would 
have gotten little attention. But in a country increasingly divided between 
rich and poor, a detail stood out: The sedan was a BMW.

Mrs. Liu was a peasant. The driver of the BMW, Su Xiuwen, is the wife of a 
businessman. The initial scrape was minor, but after a confrontation, Mrs. 
Su drove the car into Mrs. Liu.

The trial in December lasted less than two hours, with Mrs. Su receiving a 
suspended sentence. The death was ruled an accident.

And that would have ended it, except for two things. First, the BMW case 
tapped into sharp class resentments emerging in this Communist country, 
which long espoused a classless society. And second, that anger was able to 
coalesce in what is becoming an increasingly influential court of appeals 
in China: the Internet, which boiled with online outrage.

This week, in a rare step, officials here announced an investigation into 
possible judicial corruption in the case, state media reported. There is 
already speculation that Mrs. Su could face a harsher verdict, a result 
that would appease the online critics but could also set an uneasy 
precedent for reformers trying to establish a genuine rule of law in China.

If the case involved a tractor, I'm sure it wouldn't have attracted any 
attention, said Qu Wenyong, dean of the sociology department at 
Heilongjiang University in Harbin. But it involved a BMW, which symbolizes 
wealth and power. People immediately associated it with the gap between 
rich and poor.

That yawning gap is a fundamental contradiction of China's economic boom. 
Wealth is pouring in, swelling the middle class, yet hundreds of millions 
still live in poverty.

Here in the northeast, once the country's industrial center but now mired 
in unemployment, it is not hard to find class bitterness rubbed raw by the 
case. We ordinary people have to obey the laws, said a taxi driver. Mrs. 
Su, he said, does not: She has the power. She has the privilege. She can 
drive wildly.

Initially, the accident barely attracted attention outside Harbin.

That day, Mrs. Liu's husband, Dai Yiquan, accidentally bumped their onion 
cart into the side of the BMW, pushing the car about three feet. Mr. Dai, 
interviewed at his small village home outside Harbin, said Mrs. Su jumped 
out and began hitting him.

Then, after bystanders intervened, she returned to the car, apparently to 
back up. But she unexpectedly drove forward, crushing Mrs. Liu and injuring 
several others. The car crashed to a halt against a tree.

My wife was dragged for six or seven meters, Mr. Dai said. He said he 
tried to lift her right arm but it was broken. He saw blood coming out of 
her mouth. People said she was already dead, he recalled. I was just 
dumbfounded.

The question at trial was whether Mrs. Su had intentionally tried to harm 
Mrs. Liu or had simply mistakenly put the car into first gear instead of 
reverse. The trial was notable for its lack of eyewitnesses, though many 
saw the incident.

Mrs. Su's husband admitted that he had paid more than $20,000 — a huge 
amount of money in rural China — to people who were injured, which may 
explain why none testified at the hearing.

One of them was Mr. Dai, who said he had received almost $10,000, roughly 
eight years' wages. He said he did not even attend the trial. I just want 
peace for my family, a weary Mr. Dai said as one of his two daughters 
listened. I don't care about the verdict and whether it is justice or not.

But China's netcitizens cared very much. Editors at Sina.com, the 
country's most popular Web site, said that after the verdict, more than 
200,000 messages were posted to chat rooms, many suggesting corruption was 
to blame.

A spate of stories in the media fueled their anger. Before the verdict, 
newspapers in Harbin covered the case lightly; afterward, reporters from 
outside the province swept in. Some stories speculated that Mrs. Su was 
connected to a politically powerful family. Others quoted Mr. Dai accusing 
Mrs. Su of intentionally trying to harm his wife.

Guo Liang, a scholar with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences who 
studies the role of the Internet in Chinese society, said the case was the 
latest example of the Net's growing influence. He said Internet protests of 
a beating death last year that involved police officers helped prompt a 
change in national detention laws. The Net also became a primary source of 
information during the initial SARS outbreak.

Mr. Guo noted that while most Internet users are China's urban elite, he 
recently finished a study showing that poorer, more rural residents are 
increasingly online, renting time at Internet cafes for as little as 12 
cents an hour.

This platform has really changed the situation in China, because

China: bailout dynamics/spillovers

2004-01-14 Thread Eubulides
 http://www.feer.com 
BANKING
Wasteful Transfusion

The addiction of China's big state banks to rash lending could defeat a
drive to drag them out from under a mountain of bad debt before they go
public. The poison still runs deep in their veins

By Tom Holland and David Lague/HONG KONG

Issue cover-dated January 22, 2004

IT'S BAILOUT time again for China's Big Four state-owned banks. For the
third time since 1998, the government has stepped in to prop up these
technically insolvent behemoths that account for more than 70% of lending
and deposits in China. Beijing doled out a total of $45 billion to Bank of
China and China Construction Bank in late December. Analysts say that the
full bill could reach $120 billion by the time the other two banks are
recapitalized as part of the same programme. That's on top of two earlier
rescue efforts that cost a total of $202 billion.

The $45 billion was aimed at bolstering investors' confidence in the two
institutions ahead of their flotation on international stockmarkets, and
was warmly welcomed, mostly by merchant banks hungry for fees from the
planned listings. But the unusual way in which the money was pumped in and
its unconventional source--China's foreign-exchange reserves--left some
analysts believing the injection will merely feed the banks' long-standing
addiction to reckless lending.

For unless the Big Four can make real progress in curbing the accumulation
of new bad loans, this bailout, like its predecessors, will simply amount
to another exercise in flushing money down the drain. They have thrown
more money at it but they haven't really dealt with the problem, says
Stephen Harris, an associate professor at the National University of
Singapore.

At first, most foreign observers greeted the capital injection as solid
evidence that Beijing is committed to restructuring its state-owned banks.
Ratings agency Standard  Poor's, for example, immediately revised its
outlook on China Construction Bank and Bank of China to positive from
stable. But a closer examination of the mechanism used, and of the few
details so far released by the Chinese authorities, leaves plenty of
questions unanswered.

Most significantly, there is the stipulation that the money cannot be used
for writing off nonperforming loans, or NPLs. The new capital is in
dollars, which are fine for capitalizing Chinese banks, but not much good
for writing off bad loans denominated in renminbi. There is little chance
that the banks will be allowed to convert the money any time soon. Such
heavy renminbi buying would place an intolerable upward pressure on
China's currency, forcing the authorities to buy dollars and borrow
renminbi to soak up the local currency liquidity released. That would
defeat the object of using foreign exchange to recapitalize the banks.

But if the banks can't convert the new cash, holding it on their capital
accounts will free up existing capital for writing off bad loans. It will
also give them leeway to raise more capital in the form of subordinated
debt, much of which will also be committed to write-offs.

The big problem for overseas observers, including potential investors, is
that it remains unclear just how many NPLs the state banks are carrying on
their books, or at what rate new NPLs are being created.

At the end of September 2003, for instance, China Construction Bank,
regarded as the healthiest of the Big Four, had an official NPL ratio of
nearly 12%, down from about 15% at the end of 2002. At first that appears
encouraging. But the fall in the proportion of NPLs must be seen in the
light of a rapidly growing loan book, widely thought by analysts to have
increased by around 20% last year. In those terms, the drop in the ratio
of NPLs to loans can be almost entirely accounted for by the overall
increase in lending, rather than by the aggressive write-offs CCB claims.
In the past two years most Chinese banks have witnessed very strong loans
growth. That makes the NPL ratio look smaller, explains George Lee, an
analyst at specialist emerging-markets rating agency Capital Intelligence
in Hong Kong.

There are other worries. First, there is the widespread suspicion that the
official NPL levels are an optimistic fantasy. Most international
observers estimate the real levels for all of China's banks to be much
higher, with Standard  Poor's saying the true ratio is as high as 45%, or
about $850 billion. We are very, very cautious and suspicious regarding
Chinese banking numbers, agrees Lee.

That $850 billion would dwarf the estimated $145 billion-175 billion it
cost the United States to bail out defunct savings-and-loans institutions
in the 1980s, and the $377 billion worth of Japanese loans officially
classed as nonperforming at the end of March 2003. But it pales into
insignificance besides some estimates of the true size of Japanese banks'
NPLs that have ranged up to $2 trillion.

Then there are questions about the quality of new loans in China. Right
now

China: secrecy and information economics

2004-01-01 Thread Eubulides
 http://www.feer.com 
CHINESE CREDIT RATINGS
By Joel Baglole/HONG KONG
Issue cover-dated January 08, 2004

AS INCREASING NUMBERS of Chinese companies turn to the capital market,
international credit-rating agencies are charging into China hoping to
capitalize on a huge new business opportunity. But they're operating in
such a murky atmosphere that many investors question the value of their
assessments.

Demand for credit ratings--an assessment of how willing and able a
company, bank or government is to repay its debts--is growing as more
Chinese companies list shares and issue bonds, both at home and in
international markets. The value of initial public offerings from China
has risen 45.6%, and the value of bonds issued has increased 253% in the
last five years, according to financial-data provider Thomson Corp.

The success of agencies such as Fitch Ratings, Moody's Investors Service
and Standard  Poor's in China could prove a key test of the country's
ability to develop world-class companies and capital markets. The ratings
assigned by the agencies help investors decide if a company is a risky or
safe investment. For companies, ratings can determine how costly it will
be to raise funds.

But while China is opening, it's a slow process. Faulty accounting,
evolving regulations, poor corporate governance, government interference
and a lack of transparency hamper agencies' efforts. Chinese companies
must get government permission before they can approach an agency for a
rating. And market research, a key factor to assessing sectors that
companies operate in, remains tightly controlled by Beijing.

Analysts at rating agencies say they're frustrated as China doesn't adhere
to international accounting standards, companies often don't know how to
collect certain data, publicly listed companies can be controlled by
private parent companies that aren't required to disclose financial
information and the government issues misleading economic statistics to
meet state planning targets.

China is one large grey area, says John Bailey, director of corporate
ratings at Standard  Poor's in Hong Kong. You have to go in with your
eyes wide open, he adds.

Yet, despite the enormous hurdles, agencies are issuing ratings in China.
So far Fitch, Moody's and Standard  Poor's have been focusing on China's
sovereign bonds and companies listed on overseas stock exchanges, where
disclosure is better than at private enterprises. Public companies such as
China Mobile (Hong Kong) and Huaneng Power International as well as
several state-owned banks have been given investment-grade ratings.

China is a potentially lucrative market for rating agencies, with more
than 8 million corporations and 130 banks. To date, the international
agencies combined have rated less than 100 Chinese enterprises. If they
can get their ratings well established in China, then eventually they'll
have millions of companies lining up to buy ratings from them, says
Pieter van der Schaft, director of economic research at Barclays Capital
Asia in Hong Kong.

Many analysts criticize the agencies' work in China, saying it's of little
use, based as it is on limited, often inaccurate information. If you have
any credibility as a rating agency, you would probably be rating
everything junk in China, says Scott Kennedy, an assistant professor at
Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana, who specializes in China's
political economy.

Kennedy adds that international rating agencies tend to give Chinese
institutions overly high ratings because they weigh favourably the
country's huge economic growth, low foreign debt and government support of
banks and state-owned enterprises. They look at these factors and
conclude that the chances of a crisis emerging are low and so give them a
decent rating, he says.

Fitch, Moody's and Standard  Poor's tie their ratings of China's banks to
the sovereign-debt ratings of the government's bonds. But executives say
they have to do this, as the country's banks are technically insolvent
with nonperforming loans accounting for as much as half their total loan
portfolios.

Institutional investors say that, given the limitations, they too are
reluctant to give much weight to credit-rating agencies' work.
Credit-rating agencies can keep the markets and investors abreast of
ongoing structural problems in China, but in terms of data that affects
markets on a daily basis, rating agencies aren't that useful, says Brad
Aham, an Asian-equities portfolio manager at State Street Corp., who has
$2 billion invested in emerging Asian markets. Most investors are hoping
to gain from [China's] economic growth.

Indeed, investors have shown themselves perfectly willing to charge into
China blind, even when rating agencies refuse to rate a company or bond.
In September, for example, Cosco Pacific, a Chinese container-leasing firm
that's listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, issued a $300 million
10-year bond without any rating on either the company

China: property rights II

2003-12-23 Thread Eubulides
[New York Tiomes]
December 23, 2003
China Moves to Protect Property, but the Fine Print Has a Caveat
By JOSEPH KAHN

SHENZHEN, China, Dec. 22 - China's national legislature moved to amend the
Constitution on Monday to protect private property rights, the first time
the Communist Party has formally protected private wealth since taking
power 55 years ago.

The change, expected to be enacted early next year, is a milestone in
China's 25-year economic reform effort. It marks a victory for advocates
of China's emerging class of entrepreneurs, who have argued for years that
the Marxist Constitution discriminates against them and gives leeway to
the police and the courts to seize their property according to party
dictates.

The amendment, subjected to a prolonged debate behind closed doors during
the past six months, says that private property obtained legally shall
not be violated, at least nominally putting it on the same footing as
public property, which the Constitution now deems sacred and inviolable.

But the wording of the amendment made public on Monday differs in crucial
ways from a simpler version put forward by supporters of more fundamental
changes to the Constitution. By including the phrase obtained legally,
the amendment still makes the legal system, controlled by the Communist
Party, the arbiter of property rights.

Officials are determined to avoid the rush to privatization that occurred
in Russia in the early 1990's, when entrepreneurs assumed ownership of
valuable properties in sales that were later considered flawed.

Corruption is rampant in China and some intellectuals and government
leaders have long warned against steps that would make it easier for
well-connected people to take control of public property and treat it as
their own.

The watered-down amendment also seems geared to give the state continued
sway over wealthy businessmen who fall out of favor.

Local and national authorities often confiscate land and money of people
they consider threatening or disobedient, generally arguing that they lost
their rights because they violated a law or regulation while accumulating
their property.

Sheng Hong, director of the Unirule Economic Institute in Beijing, said
the amendment as unveiled by the legislature on Monday is crucial for
economic development, but also shows the continued unease about the level
of corruption in Chinese society.

This change should give private property holders more clarity and
long-term predictability, Mr. Sheng said in a telephone interview. But
the phrase `obtained legally' really stands out. It is clearly meant to
ensure that corrupt income does not become legal income.

The amendment is the latest in a series of steps that the party has taken
to end formal discrimination against private businessmen and make a claim
to represent them on equal terms with peasants and workers.

Last year, entrepreneurs were officially allowed to join the party for the
first time, and they now constitute a tiny fraction of the party's
membership roll of 66 million.

The changes do not have a direct impact on China's peasant class. Farm
land is still owned and controlled by the state and leased to farmers.

Both the amendment to protect private property and the decision to open
the party to businessmen is part of the legacy of Jiang Zemin, who retired
as China's president and Communist Party chief in favor of Hu Jintao in a
transition that began a year ago. Mr. Jiang remains China's military
chief.

Mr. Jiang sought to update the party's core ideology to reflect major
changes in the economy, which now depends far more on private
entrepreneurs, peasant farmers and foreign investors than state companies.

Reflecting that contribution as well as his continuing influence over
party affairs, the legislature on Monday also moved to enshrine Mr.
Jiang's theory of the Three Represents alongside Marxism, Mao Zedong
Thought and the Theories of Deng Xiaoping as the guiding ideologies of
the state as written in the Constitution.

The Three Represents maintains that the ruling party should represent
advanced production forces, advanced cultural forces and the overwhelming
majority of Chinese people.

It is a recognition, although a convoluted and vaguely worded one, that
China is no longer primarily an egalitarian state and that it recognizes
that capitalist-style development is essential to the survival of the
Communist Party.

The Chinese Constitution, unlike the American, is effectively subordinate
to the ruling party and is easy for leaders to amend at will. The latest
changes do not include any measures clearly associated with Mr. Hu, who
was once viewed as open to considering more ambitious legal reforms, like
setting up a constitutional court or guaranteeing broader democratic
rights.

Debate on those topics in the state-controlled media was firmly shut down
over the summer months, and the legislature does not appear to be
considering measures that go beyond the theories and reforms

China: property rights

2003-12-22 Thread Eubulides
China Ready to Grant Property Rights
By Peter S. Goodman
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, December 22, 2003; 1:07 PM


SHANGHAI, Dec. 22 -- China's Communist Party leaders on Monday proposed
amendments to the nation's constitution enshrining a legal right to
private property while broadening the focus of the party to represent
private businesses.

Virtually assured of adoption in the party-controlled National People's
Congress, the amendments constitute a significant advance in China's
ongoing transition from communism to capitalism. They also amount to
recognition that the economic future of the world's most populous country
rests with private enterprise -- a radical departure from the roots of
this land still known as the People's Republic of China.

Not since the Communist Party swept to power in 1949 in a revolution built
on antipathy toward landowners and industrialists have Chinese been
legally permitted to own property. Under the leadership of the late party
chairman Mao Zedong, millions suffered persecution for the taint of bad
class backgrounds that linked them to land-owning pasts. But present-day
China is far different. The profit motive has come to pervade near every
area of life. The site in Shanghai where the party was founded is now a
shopping and entertainment complex anchored by a Starbucks coffee shop.
From the poor villages in which most Chinese still live to the cities now
dominated by high-rises, the market determines the price of most goods and
decisions about what to produce. Business is widely viewed as a favored,
even noble undertaking.

The amendments submitted on Monday to the Standing Committee in Beijing, a
sub-unit of the legislature, had been expected since the Communist Party's
Central Committee wrapped up a plenum in October with pledges to protect
private property. Party leaders have advanced property rights as part of a
process of privatization that has been unfolding for years, but the
movement has gained considerable momentum in recent months. The government
has sold off millions of state-owned companies while encouraging the
development of private companies, which now provide two out of every three
jobs, according to Chinese researchers.

We will unswervingly encourage, support and guide the development of the
non-public sector, said Premier Wen Jiabao in an interview last month
with The Washington Post. He singled out private property protection as
something that would give greater scope to the creativity and
enterprising spirit of the Chinese population and will in the end help us
achieve the goal of common prosperity.

The state-owned firms that once dominated China's economy have
traditionally been sustained by credit from state banks, regardless of
their balance sheets. Today, many are bankrupt, and banks are burdened by
$500 billion in bad loans, according to private economists. The government
has cast privatization as the prescription for turning them around,
creating management incentives to make them profitable.

But the process has been messy and painful, eliminating jobs for tens of
millions of workers at bankrupt firms at a time when the government is
slashing the social benefits that were part and parcel of communism. After
years of free housing, universal health care and education, most Chinese
must now pay for these services. Many state-owned companies have landed in
the hands of well-connected insiders at sweetheart prices. Entrepreneurs
have gained control of once-collective farms, harnessing them for private
benefit in real estate ventures while peasants go landless.

From the beginning of economic reforms in the early 1990s through the end
of the decade, nearly $4 trillion in public assets were transferred from
state-owned companies to insiders in such dubious deals, estimates Yang
Fan, an economist at China University of Political Science and Law in
Beijing.

Most Chinese scholars now portray privatization and China's larger embrace
of the market as irreversible trends. Yet some intellectuals have
criticized the move to protect private property as precipitous: Without
first forging a modern legal system that affords aggrieved laborers and
farmers the right to protect their own interests, they argue, the creation
of property rights simply legitimates the looting of public assets.

Ordinary people in China often say that 'privatization' really means
power stealing wealth, said Kuang Xinnian, a literature professor at
Qinghua University in Beijing, who has emerged as one of the more vocal
critics.

The amendments steered clear of political reform, dashing the hopes of
liberal intellectuals who earlier this year openly called for greater
democracy within the Communist Party. Some penned essays advocating the
open election of labor representatives and the revision of the official
history of the demonstrations in Tiananmen Square in 1989, which ended in
a bloody hail of bullets.

The amendment on property declares that private property obtained

Taiwan-China-US; trade, etc.

2003-12-07 Thread Eubulides
Taiwan's president steps up tension with Beijing by calling for missile
referendum

Jonathan Watts in Beijing
Monday December 8, 2003
The Guardian

President Chen Shui-bian of Taiwan announced the island's first referendum
yesterday in a move likely to infuriate Beijing and suck the United States
into the growing dispute with the Chinese mainland.

The call for a national vote on missile deployment appeared timed to
overshadow the first visit to Washington by a senior member of the new
leadership in Beijing.

Wen Jiabao, the Chinese prime minister, set off yesterday on a four-day
American tour which is expected to be dominated by a growing Sino-US trade
row and the escalating war of words over Taiwan.

In recent weeks, Mr Chen has ratcheted up tension with provocative
statements, a high-profile visit to the US, and tentative moves towards
independence for the island, which Beijing regards as a rogue province.

Yesterday, Taiwan's leader said he would call a referendum on March 20 -
the same day as a presidential election that will decide whether he stays
in power. Voters will be asked whether they want Beijing to remove the
thousands of missiles now aimed across the Taiwan strait.

Taiwan will hold its first ever anti-missile, anti-war defensive
referendum, Mr Chen said at a campaign rally in the northern city of
Hsinchu. We want to let the world know that Taiwanese love peace and
democracy and don't want to send our children to war.

China is opposed to any referendum, which it sees as setting a precedent
for a national vote on independence.

Analysts believe that the steps are a risky ploy by Mr Chen to win
re-election.

In the 2000 election campaign, Mr Chen swept into power on a wave of
nationalism after goading Beijing into a threatening stance. His
predecessor, Lee Teng-hui, used similar tactics to win the presidency in
1996, when the crisis reached the point where China test-fired missiles
near the island and the US sent two aircraft carriers to the region.

Beijing's new rulers, who came to power in a Communist party transition
earlier this year, have been unable to resist sabre-rattling this time.

Last month, they restated a threat to use force if necessary to halt
Taiwan's march towards independence.

Mr Wen will ask President George Bush to exert US influence over the
island. China's state-run media said the Taiwan question would top the
agenda for the US talks.

Beijing wants a clear statement from the US that it opposes
independence. Until now, officials from the Bush administration have said
only that they do not support independence and are opposed to any
unilateral change in the status quo.

If the US position is to change, China may have to give ground on the
trade dispute, which has been prompted by a record $120bn (£70bn) Chinese
surplus with the US.


Mexico/China

2003-12-03 Thread Eubulides
Mexico Now Feels Pinch of Cheap Labor
An Economy Built on Low Wages Finds Itself Undercut by Influx of Chinese
Imports

By Mary Jordan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, December 3, 2003; Page A19


SANTA ANA CHIAUTEMPAN, Mexico -- The China threat, as people around this
textile town call it, struck here last week, costing 80 jobs in a factory
that makes blankets.

Maybe next time, I'll be the one who gets fired; China is going to make
Mexico go broke, said Bernarda Parada, 27, as she hemmed blankets that
sell for $10, while similar ones made in China sell here for $6.

Turn on any radio show, attend any business conference or talk to workers
in small towns like this one and the buzzword is China, particularly how
its rising fortunes are causing pain in Mexico. Since 2001, industry
officials said that more than 200,000 clothing, textile and other factory
jobs have disappeared in Mexico and hundreds of factories have relocated
to China, where labor is typically four times cheaper.

A popular reaction is to disparage goods made in China and to call for
higher trade barriers to protect Mexican goods. Many are even invoking a
new slang expression, to be China-ed, word play on a common vulgarism in
Spanish. With Chinese-made Mexican flags and Chinese-sewn traditional
Mexican serapes now filling street markets, some people say dejectedly
that the only Mexican commodity left that China does not make -- at least
not yet -- is tequila.

The U.S. textile and clothing industries and U.S. government regulators
are also upset; late last month, the United States imposed import quotas
on several types of Chinese clothing and textiles. But the China challenge
in Mexico is more profound because the Mexican economy depends so heavily
on low-skilled, relatively cheap manufacturing. That edge is now being
chiseled away by a country of 1.2 billion people half a world away. So,
now, officials are scrambling to reposition the nation's workforce toward
higher-skill jobs and higher-end manufacturing.

Many people see China as a big threat, and obviously it is, said
Alejandro Dieck Assad, an economist and top official in Mexico's Finance
Ministry. But China is also simultaneously a big opportunity. He said
competition from China could be just the push Mexico needs to accelerate
its transition from low-skilled assembly work to more lucrative
manufacturing jobs -- less sewing of garments and more fabrication of
electric circuits. Dieck said Mexico could also benefit by seeking
opportunities in the growing Chinese consumer market and by attracting
Chinese tourists to Mexican beaches.

There are more and more Chinese tourists going abroad; imagine the
opportunities, Dieck said. Maybe they would like to go to Cancun, Puerto
Vallarta and the pyramids of Mexico City. We have to exploit this
tremendous opportunity.

Mexico's president, Vicente Fox, is scheduled to host Premier Wen Jiabao
of China for a visit beginning Dec. 12, after Wen visits the United
States. The two leaders are expected to discuss the growing flow of cheap
Chinese goods to Mexico, a staggering $6.3 billion worth last year.
Mexican officials stress that Mexican imports to China increased by 62
percent to $456 million last year, fueled in part by China's growing taste
for Corona beer. But that still leaves a $5.8 billion trade deficit and
officials are concerned about China's expanding exports.

Beyond these numbers are large quantities of Chinese goods smuggled into
Mexico, officials said. Mexico imposes significant tariffs on certain
Chinese imports -- some as high as 500 percent -- but those levies are
often not paid. Customs officials said the typical route for Chinese
contraband is for goods such as pajamas, pants, bras and tennis shoes to
be smuggled into California ports by ship, then driven over the
U.S.-Mexico border in trucks. Mexican officials said the goods are
sometimes repackaged to make them appear to be from Pakistan or another
countries whose goods are subject to lower tariffs or none at all to enter
Mexico. And sometimes, officials said, a customs agent is paid to look the
other way.

The volume of Chinese contraband is huge; private industry estimates say
50 percent of clothes and shoes sold in Mexico are made in China. In
response, Dieck said the government recently began an advertising campaign
called Focus on Mexico to urge people to buy legal products and avoid
contraband. Much of it is sold in street markets that also pay no sales
taxes.

Fox has pledged the full force of the law to punish those who smuggle
Chinese goods. The Mexican attorney general recently announced seizures of
hundreds of tons of Chinese garments and textiles, including 60 truckloads
in a single raid. The Mexican Congress is now debating tougher penalties
for those who sell Chinese contraband, with many arguing that the trade
should be penalized as organized crime.

It's horrible! said Carmen Temoltzin Cruz, who has been selling shawls,
ponchos and other clothing

A Bush in China...

2003-11-27 Thread Devine, James
Bush's Brother Has Contract to Help Chinese Chip Maker

By Warren Vieth and Lianne Hart
Times Staff Writers

L.A. TIMES/November 27, 2003

WASHINGTON  Neil Bush, a younger brother of President Bush, has a $400,000-a-year 
contract to provide business advice to a Chinese computer chip manufacturer, according 
to court documents.

At the same time the Bush administration is promising to crack down on alleged trade 
abuses by the Chinese, Neil Bush has agreed to strategize with China's Grace 
Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp., the documents show.

While there is no indication he has done anything improper, Bush's arrangement could 
attract attention during a presidential election cycle in which Chinese business 
practices have become a hot-button issue.

There's certainly the appearance of influence being sought, said Charles W. 
McMillion, a Washington business consultant who advised a congressional commission on 
U.S.-China policy. If nothing else, it doesn't look good.

The younger Bush's relationship with Grace Semiconductor, first reported in the 
Houston Chronicle, is detailed in a two-page contract filed as part of divorce 
proceedings between Neil and Sharon Bush. The divorce was finalized in April.

The China contract is not Neil Bush's first brush with controversy. In the 1980s, he 
was a director of Silverado Banking, Savings  Loan, a Colorado thrift whose failure 
cost U.S. taxpayers $1 billion. He was one of 12 defendants who agreed to pay $49 
million to settle a negligence lawsuit brought by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

Neil Bush did not return phone messages seeking comment. Neither did his attorney, 
Grace Semiconductor or Sharon Bush. An attorney for Sharon Bush declined to comment.

In Crawford, Texas, where the president is spending the holiday, White House 
spokeswoman Claire Buchan said there would be no comment on the China matter. 

According to the consulting contract, Neil Bush was to receive $2 million worth of 
Grace Semiconductor preferred stock over five years, issued in annual increments of 
$400,000. 

In return, Bush agreed to provide GSMC from time to time with business strategies and 
policies; latest information and trends of the related industry, and other expertized 
advices, the contract states.

In addition, Bush was to attend meetings of Grace Semiconductor's board of directors, 
and the firm agreed to pay him $10,000 per meeting to cover expenses. Bush signed the 
contract Aug. 15, 2002.

It was not clear how much compensation Bush has received so far. The contract said he 
would receive the first $400,000 allotment within one month of the company's 2002 
board meeting, provided you have duly furnished GSMC with the information and details 
required for the issuance or transfer of the share certificate. 

Grace Semiconductor, based in Shanghai, was founded in 2000 by Winston Wong, the son 
of Taiwanese business magnate Wang Yung-ching, and Jiang Mianheng, the son of former 
Chinese President Jiang Zemin. Wong co-signed the contract with Bush.

The company has said its goal is to become a leading manufacturer of integrated 
circuits and other semiconductor products. It has invested $1.6 billion to build two 
fabrication plants in Shanghai. Production from the first plant began in September.

During a March 2003 deposition taken as part of his divorce proceedings, as reported 
by the Chronicle and confirmed by an attorney in the case, the president's brother 
acknowledged that he knew little about the industry he had just joined.

You have absolutely no educational background in semiconductors, do you? asked 
Sharon Bush's attorney, Marshall Davis Brown. 

That's correct, Bush responded.

But I know a lot about business, he said at another point, and I've been working in 
Asia quite a long time.

Disclosure of Neil Bush's consulting contract comes amid an intense debate over 
America's growing trade deficit with China. U.S. manufacturers have shed 2.8 million 
jobs since mid-2000, and many firms have blamed unfair trade practices by China.

The American Electronics Assn. released a report this week showing that 49 states lost 
high-tech workers last year. Total losses were 540,000 in 2002 and 234,000 so far this 
year, leaving fewer than 6 million people employed in the industry.

The Bush administration has promised to crack down on any abuses its finds. It has 
pressured China's government to let its currency rise in relation to the dollar, which 
would make Chinese exports less competitive in this country. It has agreed to impose 
protective quotas on several categories of Chinese textile products, and to place 
steep tariffs on Chinese-made televisions.

I'm sure China will not question our resolve, Commerce Secretary Don Evans recently 
told a Michigan business group. We're serious about it, and they'll know we're 
serious about it.

Semiconductor manufacturing is one of the few industry sectors in which the United 
States is running a substantial trade

Re: A Bush in China...

2003-11-27 Thread Eugene Coyle
The LA Times is a little more discreet about the sex than something I
read elsewhere.  Neil must be a trusting soul -- someone unknown happens
to knock on the door to his hotel room and they jump in bed together.
But it happened regularly, so he must have thought it happend to everybody.
Gene Coyle

Devine, James wrote:

Bush's Brother Has Contract to Help Chinese Chip Maker

By Warren Vieth and Lianne Hart
Times Staff Writers
L.A. TIMES/November 27, 2003

WASHINGTON  Neil Bush, a younger brother of President Bush, has a $400,000-a-year contract to provide business advice to a Chinese computer chip manufacturer, according to court documents.

At the same time the Bush administration is promising to crack down on alleged trade abuses by the Chinese, Neil Bush has agreed to strategize with China's Grace Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp., the documents show.

While there is no indication he has done anything improper, Bush's arrangement could attract attention during a presidential election cycle in which Chinese business practices have become a hot-button issue.

There's certainly the appearance of influence being sought, said Charles W. McMillion, a Washington business consultant who advised a congressional commission on U.S.-China policy. If nothing else, it doesn't look good.

The younger Bush's relationship with Grace Semiconductor, first reported in the Houston Chronicle, is detailed in a two-page contract filed as part of divorce proceedings between Neil and Sharon Bush. The divorce was finalized in April.

The China contract is not Neil Bush's first brush with controversy. In the 1980s, he was a director of Silverado Banking, Savings  Loan, a Colorado thrift whose failure cost U.S. taxpayers $1 billion. He was one of 12 defendants who agreed to pay $49 million to settle a negligence lawsuit brought by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

Neil Bush did not return phone messages seeking comment. Neither did his attorney, Grace Semiconductor or Sharon Bush. An attorney for Sharon Bush declined to comment.

In Crawford, Texas, where the president is spending the holiday, White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said there would be no comment on the China matter.

According to the consulting contract, Neil Bush was to receive $2 million worth of Grace Semiconductor preferred stock over five years, issued in annual increments of $400,000.

In return, Bush agreed to provide GSMC from time to time with business strategies and policies; latest information and trends of the related industry, and other expertized advices, the contract states.

In addition, Bush was to attend meetings of Grace Semiconductor's board of directors, and the firm agreed to pay him $10,000 per meeting to cover expenses. Bush signed the contract Aug. 15, 2002.

It was not clear how much compensation Bush has received so far. The contract said he would receive the first $400,000 allotment within one month of the company's 2002 board meeting, provided you have duly furnished GSMC with the information and details required for the issuance or transfer of the share certificate.

Grace Semiconductor, based in Shanghai, was founded in 2000 by Winston Wong, the son of Taiwanese business magnate Wang Yung-ching, and Jiang Mianheng, the son of former Chinese President Jiang Zemin. Wong co-signed the contract with Bush.

The company has said its goal is to become a leading manufacturer of integrated circuits and other semiconductor products. It has invested $1.6 billion to build two fabrication plants in Shanghai. Production from the first plant began in September.

During a March 2003 deposition taken as part of his divorce proceedings, as reported by the Chronicle and confirmed by an attorney in the case, the president's brother acknowledged that he knew little about the industry he had just joined.

You have absolutely no educational background in semiconductors, do you? asked Sharon Bush's attorney, Marshall Davis Brown.

That's correct, Bush responded.

But I know a lot about business, he said at another point, and I've been working in Asia quite a long time.

Disclosure of Neil Bush's consulting contract comes amid an intense debate over America's growing trade deficit with China. U.S. manufacturers have shed 2.8 million jobs since mid-2000, and many firms have blamed unfair trade practices by China.

The American Electronics Assn. released a report this week showing that 49 states lost high-tech workers last year. Total losses were 540,000 in 2002 and 234,000 so far this year, leaving fewer than 6 million people employed in the industry.

The Bush administration has promised to crack down on any abuses its finds. It has pressured China's government to let its currency rise in relation to the dollar, which would make Chinese exports less competitive in this country. It has agreed to impose protective quotas on several categories of Chinese textile products, and to place steep tariffs on Chinese-made televisions.

I'm sure China

China: from bras to tv's

2003-11-25 Thread Eubulides
Chinese upset as US imposes TV tariffs

David Teather in New York
Wednesday November 26, 2003
The Guardian

Chinese trade officials said yesterday that they were gravely concerned
by a US decision to slap tariffs on imported televisions.

The US commerce department ruled that TVs being made by four Chinese firms
were being sold in America at less than fair value and announced duties
between 28%-46%. The Chinese commerce ministry reacted angrily. A
statement said the decision amounted to serious discrimination and
unfair treatment of the firms.

The comments raised fears of further retaliatory action. A trade mission
to US cotton, wheat and soya bean growers by Chinese buyers planned for
next month has already been cancelled after the US last week moved to curb
the import of Chinese textiles.

The US government is coming under increasing pressure from domestic
manufacturers and labour unions to act on China and the issue is likely to
be a crucial one in next year's presidential election.

US firms and labour unions argue that the American manufacturing base is
being devastated by free trade agreements with China, where costs are
lower and regulations less stringent. The Chinese currency is also pegged
to the dollar, which economists argue keeps it artificially low. US TV
makers and unions said that imports from China and Malaysia had soared
from 210,000 units in 2000 to 2.6m last year.

One company affected by the tariffs, Sichuan Changhong Electronic, said it
was surprised by the allegation of dumping. All of Changhong's exports to
the US have reasonable profit margins, it said.




To this day, no one has come up with a set of rules for
originality. There aren't any. [Les Paul]


China and the World Economy

2003-11-14 Thread michael
Earlier I asked about the impact of China on world commodity markets.  I
saw this today.

Also, an earlier article this week describes how excess capacity is now
driving down wages in China.  It also mentions workers distraught by the
wages that they were offered.


Bahree, Bhushan. 2003. China's Growing Economy Is Gobbling Up Oil
Supplies. Wall Street Journal (14 November): p. A 10.

China's fast-growing economy has reached such heft that the country has
emerged as the largest force driving the world's growing demand for oil,
the International Energy Agency said.  Faster-than-expected economic
growth in the U.S. and Europe is also resulting in more oil use.  But
the latest data and forecasts by the Paris-based global energy watchdog
show China alone accounting for about a third of the world's increase in
oil use this year and in 2004, when China is expected to displace Japan
as the second-largest consumer of oil after the U.S.

Wonacott, Peter. 2003. Behind China's Export Boom, Heated Battle Among
Factories as Wal-Mart, Others Demand Lowest Prices, Managers Scramble to
Slash Costs. Wall Street Journal (13 November): p. A 1.

China, one of the world's busiest factory floors, increasingly suffers
from a production glut, and the big overseas retailers such
as Wal-Mart Stores Inc. that soak up China's exports have been quick to
capitalize.  They're demanding rock-bottom prices and
forcing factory bosses to cut costs any way they can in order to remain
in contention for export orders.  The average wholesale
price for Ching Hai's fans, juicers and toasters has tumbled to $4 from
$7 a decade ago, according to company executives.

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


China addendum

2003-11-14 Thread michael
I forgot to add another piece

Kilman, Scott. 2003. U.S. Crop Prices Soar as China Fuels Demand. Wall
Street Journal (13 November).

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


China: shopping spree

2003-11-13 Thread Eubulides
China sweetens belligerent US with $6bn jets and limos spree

Jonathan Watts in Beijing
Friday November 14, 2003
The Guardian

China is attempting to shop its way back into favour with the United
States with $6bn (£3.5bn) worth of contracts with American companies aimed
at easing the growing trade friction between the two nations.

Thousands of jet aircraft and limousines have been snapped up or
authorised for import in the past two days on a state-led spending spree
which comes as congressmen lobby President George Bush to slap punitive
tariffs on China.

Among the beneficiaries are Boeing, which announced a $1.7bn deal to
supply 30 planes to five Chinese airlines, and General Electric, which
clinched a contract to supply engines for a new Chinese civil aircraft
which could lead to sales of $3bn over 20 years.

Reflecting the growing affluence of China's middle class - and the opulent
tastes of state officials - a third deal, worth $1.3bn, permitted General
Motors to export 4,500 top-of-the- range cars such as Cadillacs.

There were also openings for Ford and DaimlerChrysler, which announced new
licences to export sport utility and luxury vehicles. This followed a
relaxation of China's tax laws to make it easier for overseas firms to
bring in their products.

Foreign manufacturers have been pushing for greater access to the Chinese
car market which is expected to overtake Germany's this year to become the
third largest in the world.

Whether the buying binge will be sufficient to win over public opinion in
the US remains unclear. The record $100bn trade gap between the two
nations could be a crucial issue in next year's US presidential election.
Unions blame the weak Chinese currency for the loss of US jobs. A bill
before Congress seeks a 27.5% tariff on Chinese goods.

The head of the Chinese delegation to the US which sanctioned the spending
hailed the trip as a breakthrough, but Zhao Guobao called on his hosts to
reciprocate by easing trade restrictions on parts deemed to have a
military application. He said a recent decision to block the sale of US
satellite technology to China was discriminatory and unnecessary.




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