Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Consider the position you put me, or another sponsor, in.
I want to endorse everything Richard then went on to say.
I have already contacted Uri and expressed my dismay at his entirely
inappropriate interjection of an advertisement for our Perl College event into
I think the crucial point to pick up on is something that chromatic has
pointed out very well in any number of use.perl journal postings over the
past year. That is, Perl 6's creation is dependent on how much time people
put into it, and how many people put in time. The volunteer effort to date
Hi James,
Your comment suggest you have a particular perspective or point of view.
Without providing a some context I'm afraid I'm going to find some of your
comments confusing.
* just release perl 6 now and move on
This is one of those confusing comments. There isn't a single p6
can I add a few unsolicited ruminations from a lurker;
* just release perl 6 now and move on
* do not hire 40 year olds with responsibilities, convince the
young to spend their time for free ... isn't that what one is supposed
to do after the age of 40 ?
* use all funds to promote its
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Richard Dice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What all of myself, chromatic and Richard Hainsworth seem to appreciate is
that a plan without resources to back it up is almost guaranteed to be
ineffective. Even more than that, we have an appreciation that planning
I
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 08:26:35PM +0100, James Fuller wrote:
: oh ya and the ability to mate right we can
: leave the last one off ;)
No we can't. That is *precisely* what this whole business of derivable
grammars is about, and it came about because you couldn't mate two
source filters in
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 11:08:15 James Fuller wrote:
can I add a few unsolicited ruminations from a lurker;
* just release perl 6 now and move on
To what extent?
Larry just released Perl 5 some 13 and a half years ago, and there've been a
few patches applied to it in the past 24
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 12:26:35 James Fuller wrote:
I do not think that its right to release
perl6 for the language, but it might be 'right' to do for language
adoption no doubt cathedral / bazaar forces are in effect.
I don't follow this; can you elaborate?
-- c
RH == Richard Hainsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RH No one likes bureacracy. But I feel much happier about handing over
RH money, or persuading someone else to hand over money, to a group of
RH people with established procedures and collective responsibility, than
RH to some
Uri,
Consider the position you put me, or another sponsor, in. You mention a
specific person, someone who is highly respected and extremely talented.
You ask if I consider this person to be as flaky as a character that was
a figment of my imagination, and if I say 'no he is not so flaky',
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 10:50:15 Richard Hainsworth wrote:
What the perl6 language needs now is a systematic development plan, with
broad aims and clear goals that will lead to good quality software and
to the tools to enable ordinary programmers to use perl6 for a variety
of tasks.
Perl 6
RH == Richard Hainsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RH Consider the position you put me, or another sponsor, in. You mention
RH a specific person, someone who is highly respected and extremely
RH talented. You ask if I consider this person to be as flaky as a
RH character that was a
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 10:50:15 Richard Hainsworth wrote:
What the perl6 language needs now is a systematic development plan, with
broad aims and clear goals that will lead to good quality software and
to the tools to enable ordinary programmers to use perl6 for a variety
of tasks.
Richard
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Ovid wrote:
How else should we be advertising this?
These mailing lists might be a good place. Basically, places where the
work in question is done also seem like good places to advertise.
-dave
/*===
VegGuide.Org
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
I am mostly ignoring the rest of what others have said in this thread
because I think it is detracting from your intention of getting money to
people to work more. Here is
From: Gabor Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:04 PM
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
I am mostly ignoring the rest of what others have said in this
thread
because I
LW == Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LW By the way, it's possible that I might deserve a little more money,
LW because *my* cat died last year, and as near as I can tell, I didn't
LW spend any money on girls and booze because of it... :)
i will donate to get larry a new cat. in
In my $life, I raise money from sponsors.
It is not difficult to spend money, once you have it.
It is not difficult to raise money, once you know how to spend it wisely.
What's difficult is putting the two together.
Some donors know what to contribute to - they choose specific projects
and
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could take a month's sabbatical from my day job for $5000 without losing
insurance coverage or other benefits. That's slightly more than Audrey's
$100/day, I
Me too. $500. That's 3*500, so far.
Can I do this through the Perl Foundation as an earmark?
Conrad Schneiker wrote:
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could take a month's sabbatical from my
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:24 AM
Whilst debating issues like parrot vs pugs, or single-track vs
parellel
track development, can be quite interesting, especially if it induces
Larry to compare straight lines to mountains and
From: Geoffrey Broadwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 6:20 PM
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 18:45 -0500, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. Allow people to choose where their money will go (if that's what
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:03:03AM +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
No one likes bureacracy. But I feel much happier about handing over money,
or persuading someone else to hand over money, to a group of people with
established procedures and collective responsibility, than to some
OOOWWW my tail is burnt!!! But I wasnt on the committee... promise.
Sorry about the cat...
So lets get some money into this Foundation, so that, perhaps, Larry
might possibly, if he deserves, get a little more money.
Richard
Larry Wall wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:03:03AM +0300,
In article
!!AAAYAJmSy7DjO29Fg/NooSGjnaXCgAAAEEc+mhI1TL9CiDgj
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Conrad Schneiker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So over the next few months, I'm planning to learn about
fundraising, and see what I can accomplish on behalf of Perl
6 development. To that end,
Hi everyone,
Guess it's time for me to finally join the discussion. :-) I've been paying
attention to this thread since it started.
Which made me think ... wasn't this why Mozilla created a corporation?
I believe one can find online write-ups from the people involved with the
decision to
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done
directly because of rules surrounding TPF's non-profit status. Someone
else pointed out the problems with TPF officers benefitting directly
from the donations, even though some of
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
I am mostly ignoring the rest of what others have said in this thread
because I think it is detracting from your intention of getting money to
people to work more. Here is one thing that has frustrated me about TPF.
They are a non-profit organization.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's what made me come to the conclusion that it's really The Parrot
Foundation.
It's not The Parrot Foundation. It's that NLNet gave a very large
targeted grant for Parrot. It's a single big donation that's driving
that.
I'm working
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's what made me come to the conclusion that it's really The Parrot
Foundation.
As brian mentioned, the NLNet grant is what's driving the Parrot work.
AFAIK, there haven't been any Parrot-related grants for a long time
besides that one and
I've seen that Daniel Ruoso applied for a grant for his smop project,
basically a virtual machine and fast backend for kp6, and perhaps other
implementations.
TPF decided not to invest into yet another implementation.
I appreciate that it is a subtle distinction to make, too subtle to
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Conrad Schneiker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've repeatedly encountered remarks about how much Perl 6
development is constrained by the fairly severe time and
energy constraints of its overwhelmingly volunteer
development team.
Here is something to consider.
In article
!!AAAYAJmSy7DjO29Fg/NooSGjnaXCgAAAEEc+mhI1TL9CiDgj
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Conrad Schneiker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So over the next few months, I'm planning to learn about
fundraising, and see what I can accomplish on behalf of Perl
6 development. To that end, I'm
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
Here is something to consider. Unless we can afford to fund an individual
full time with enough money for them to pay for their own health coverage
and other benefits, the amount of time they are volunteering is already as
much as
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
I could take a month's sabbatical from my day job for $5000 without losing
insurance coverage or other benefits. That's slightly more than Audrey's
$100/day, I
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 18:45 -0500, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. Allow people to choose where their money will go (if that's what they
want to do)
Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done
directly because
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Geoffrey Broadwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done
directly because of rules surrounding TPF's non-profit status.
That someone was me and that's not what I said. I said it isn't as simple
as Bob
During the course of collecting material for the Perl 6 wiki
section on Perl 6 articles and presentations
(http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?perl_6_articles_and_presentat
ions),
I've repeatedly encountered remarks about how much Perl 6
development is constrained by the fairly severe
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