On 4/24/06, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you want to reset to before the key for some reason, you can always
> set .pos to $.beg, or whatever the name of the method is. Hmm,
> that looks like it's unspecced.
>
BEGIN
.beg looks over-huffmanized to me. .begin is more natural to
english
i noticed a few things missing from the list of sigils. patch inline below.
~jerry
Index: design/syn/S02.pod
===
--- design/syn/S02.pod (revision 9154)
+++ design/syn/S02.pod (working copy)
@@ -494,8 +494,8 @@
$ scalar
@
that's postfix ::, as mentioned in the Names section of S02.
There is no longer any special package hash such as %Foo::. Just
subscript the package object itself as a hash object, the key of which
is the variable name, including any sigil. The package object can be
derived from a type name by us
according to S02, under 'Literals', generalized quotes may now take
adverbs. in that section is the following comment:
[Conjectural: Ordinarily the colon is required on adverbs, but the
"quote" declarator allows you to combine any of the existing adverbial
forms above without an intervening colo
On 6/2/06, Rene Hangstrup Møller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi
I am toying around with Parrot and the compiler tools. The documenation
of Perl 6 grammars that I have been able to find only describe rule. But
the grammars in Parrot 0.4.4 for punie and APL use rule, token and regex
elements.
Can
On 7/15/06, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Folks,
Please always verify test results, don't use the Parrot output of the test as
the expected output.
If you are implementing a new feature, write the *test first*.
Thanks,
leo
PS from r13305:
@@ -1324,7 +1324,7 @@
set P2, 300
On 7/25/06, Thomas Wittek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bearing that in mind, would the eye-socket-burning
>
> return $foo
> IF $something;
>
> really be so bad?
Operators/reserved words should be lowercase. Period. ;)
I think that this would heavily break consistency, annoying new users.
recently, perl 6 development has taken the form of a multi-method
dispatch. that is, multiple implementations are under active
development. this includes pugs (in haskell,) v6 (in perl5,)
v6-Compiler (in perl6,) and perl6 (on parrot.) hopefully, each of
these returns the same result, a working[1]
On 8/11/06, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just to avoid repeating some of the discussion, here's a link to #perl6:
http://colabti.de/irclogger/irclogger_log/perl6?date=2006-08-07,Mon&sel=110#l193
The discussion goes on and off for most of the rest of the page,
so you probably want
On 8/25/06, Trey Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In a message dated Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Mark J. Reed writes:
> I think the justification for Luke's POV is the number of operations
> each class provides. But my perspective agrees with Juerd -
> subclasses can remove functionality as well as addi
On 8/31/06, Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/31/06, Juerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still, though, How would you specify :g? It doesn't make a lot of sense
> on rx// -- just like you can't use it with qr// in Perl 5.
It is a good point that it doesn't belong on the regex. Perhaps:
On 9/1/06, Trey Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In a message dated Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Paul Seamons writes:
> I'm not sure if I have seen this requested or discussed.
This was definitively rejected by Larry in 2002:
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.language/9343
He has not revisited t
On 10/2/06, Jonathan Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not used to programming styles where a programmer intentionally
and explicitly forbids the use of otherwise perfectly legal code. Is
there really a market for this sort of thing?
use strict;
On 10/2/06, Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jonathan Lang wrote:
> I'm not used to programming styles where a programmer intentionally
> and explicitly forbids the use of otherwise perfectly legal code. Is
> there really a market for this sort of thing?
>
use strict;
you're so twel
On 1/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+Matching against a C object will call the C method
+defined in the grammar. The C method may either be a rule
+itself, or may call the actual top rule automatically. How the
+C determines the top rule is up to the grammar, but normal
+Per
On 3/18/07, Thom Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I never could find the Pod-to-XHTML'd version of S26 -- the document
attached to that email was S26.pod6, not S26.xhtml.
I don't want to bug Damian, because obviously he has enough of life
"happening", as it were. But is the XHTML'd version of S2
On 6/22/07, Chas Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Most of the time the policy is enacted by lower-case-l lazy sysadmins
who can't be bothered to type
perl -MCPAN -e install Foo::Bar
My normal route around them is to install the module into the home
directory of the user who is going to run the
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On 9/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @@ -1254,6 +1273,17 @@
>
> =item *
>
> +A leading C indicates a positive zero-width assertion, and like C
> +merely reparses the rest of the assertion recursively as if the C
> +were not there. In addition to forcing zero-width, it also su
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On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:31 PM, John M. Dlugosz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Consider the words that may be used to introduce a block for a special
> purpose, like
>
> BEGIN
> END
> INIT
> CATCH
> etc.
>
> What do you call those? They are not even "special named blocks" because
> that is no
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On a larger question, I'm wondering if it's time to slush/freeze
> the Synopses as historical documents and put all spec effort into
> the new form (presumably as a wiki that knows how to serialize into
> a document). I
Aloha!
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2008/7/10 TSa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> HaloO,
>
> Larry Wall wrote:
>> Well, maybe 0 .. 10-ε or some such.
>
> This ε there is what I have as the .step method of nums
> in the thread "The Inf type". That is $min..^$max is the
> same as $min..($max-$max.step). For Ints the .step is
> always 1. For Num
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Yaakov Belch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a little language that I wrote some time ago, I found it very useful to
> let the // operator catch exceptions:
>
> f(x) // g(y) does:
> * If f(x) returns a defined value, use this value.
> * If f(x) returns an undefined v
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Jon Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But are 'twas and -x valid identifiers? IMHO, they should not be.
>
no, indeed they are not, because they don't start with underscore or
alpha. that's why they won't work.
~jerry
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On 10/24/08, Elyse M. Grasso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 24 October 2008, jerry gay wrote:
>> On behalf of the Parrot team, I'm proud to announce Parrot 0.8.0
>> "Pareto Principle." Parrot (http://parrotcode.org/) is a virtual
>> machine aimed
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 05:45, Mark Overmeer wrote:
> * Daniel Ruoso (dan...@ruoso.com) [081218 13:39]:
>> Em Qui, 2008-12-18 às 13:08 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson escreveu:
>> > My question is, what sort of information actually belongs in a final
>> > version of the 6PAN spec? I'm assuming it wi
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:51, Moritz Lenz wrote:
>> Since Perl 5 has no REPL, I'm not sure where such a spec would go. S20,
>> maybe, since the debugger is the closest thing?
>
> or maybe S19, because it defines the console interface to the rest of
> the world. Or just pick a not-yet-used number
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 03:30, Darren Duncan wrote:
> pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
>>
>> --name :name
>> --name=value:name
>> --name="spacy value":name«'spacy value'»
>> --name='spacy value':name«'spacy value'»
>> --na
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 09:27, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 17:08 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
>> +=head2 Synopsis
>> +
>> + multi sub perl6(
>> +Bool :a($autosplit),
>> +Bool :c($check-syntax),
>> +Bool :$doc,
>> +:e($execute),
>> +:$execute
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:24, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> Thank you for the quick turnaround!
>
> On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 10:55 -0800, jerry gay wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 09:27, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
>> > It's also not
>> > obvious what a boolean n
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 13:16, Eirik Berg Hanssen
wrote:
> pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl writes:
>
>> +C<--prelude=Perl6-autoloop-no-print>. Since eager matching is used, if you
>> +need to pass something like:
>>
>> + ++foo -bar ++foo baz ++/foo ++/foo
>>
>> +you'll end up with
>> +
>> + %+OPTS
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 14:26, Eirik Berg Hanssen
wrote:
> "jerry gay" writes:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 13:16, Eirik Berg Hanssen
>> wrote:
>>> That doesn't look very "eager" to me.
>>>
>> it's "eager"
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 13:44, Ovid
wrote:
> - Original Message
>
>> From: Moritz Lenz
>
>> * the word 'is' is overloaded in Perl 6
>>* if we export subs is() and ok(), we clutter the
>> namespace with subs with short names
>>* is() is rather imprecise; it doesn't say *h
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 09:22, Moritz Lenz wrote:
> Richard Hainsworth wrote:
> But it is interesting to think about the case where a user wants two
> different diagnostic test messages (to all the testing gurus out there:
> do you actually want such a feature?). It shouldn't be too hard to do;
>
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:37, Dave Whipp wrote:
> I could also imagine writing code that reads from an Sqlite database, and
> imposes that info onto the test. Whatever mechanism is used, I think we need
> a language-defined mechanism to supply a stable unique identifier for each
> test, so that i
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 06:37, dev.null.box wrote:
> Hi...
>
> I´m used to test oneliners on the perl6 irc channel when i´m at
> home... But, at work, latetly i´m having lots of free time (this week
> has been sooo boring).
>
> But, i have irc blocked at my office (and yes, i´ve tried alternative
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 17:26, Hinrik Örn Sigurðsson
wrote:
> Google has announced this year's Summer of Code[1]. The Perl
> Foundation accepted one project (mentored by Moritz) related to Perl 6
> last year[2]. I was wondering if there are any developers interested
> in mentoring students on Perl
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:16, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 09:43:17AM +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl
>> wrote:
>> =item * ws
>>
>> Match whitespace between tokens.
>>
>> =item * space
>>
>> Match a single whitespace character. Hence C< > is equivalent to C<
>> + >.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:22, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
> Hats off to the designer of the gimel symbol - the associations with anarchy
> are probably right for perl6. But to be honest, a letter didnt quite inspire
> me. Since, I dont want to criticize without providing other ideas, here are
> som
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 18:57, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
> Hi all. Can we change %*OPTS to %*ARGH ? By analogy with @ARGS, but
> a hash of args? I've always used that, and kind of like the amusement
> factor :).
>
>
cute, but please, no. %*OPTS is descriptive and properly huffmanized.
f
for the latest spec changes regarding this item, see
http://perlcabal.org/svn/pugs/revision/?rev=27959.
is everyone equally miserable now? ;)
~jerry
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:03, Kyle Hasselbacher wrote:
> Perl 5 programmers are sometimes surprised to find that 'perl -c
> strange.pl' can execute code. Imagine their surprise to find that
> 'perl6doc' does too.
>
this is why it's spelled 'perl6 --doc', which should give you some
hint that you'r
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:17, Thom Boyer wrote:
> I'm curious about the change from "blorst" to "blast." I quickly figured out
> that "blorst" was
> derived from "BLock OR STatement" (as S04 used to say: "In fact,
> most of these phasers will take either a block or a statement (known as
> a I in
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 00:53, Moritz Lenz wrote:
> The spec doesn't elaborate on how the short args are specified in the
> signature of MAIN. I see two possible approaches (that don't contradict):
>
> 1) one renames them in the signature, so it would like
>
> sub MAIN(:name(:$n))
>
> then $n has
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 05:17, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I was fiddling about with a small example of how nice radix adverbials are
> for conversion:
>
> my $x = 6*9;
> say :13($x);
>
> rakudo: 69
>
> ($x = 54 in base 10, but 54 in base 13 is 69 in base 10.)
>
> Strangely enough, I cannot f
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 07:45, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> No, 42/13 is 42 over 13, which is 3 + 3/13. Let's not confuse
> fractions and bases, please.
>
ha! yet another case of crossed wires too early in the morning. sorry
for the confusion, i've been making similar apologies all day. too
bad i don'
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 15:56, Damian Conway wrote:
> Carl proposed:
>
>> The other path that seems reasonable to me would be to use the same
>> naming scheme as for the block types, i.e. reserve all-upper and
>> all-lower forms (and die if an unrecognized one of this form is
>> encountered), and l
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