Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-26 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Samstag, 24. November 2007 schrieb Bruce Momjian: Peter, were you going to address this? It's done now. diff -ur ../cvs-pgsql/configure.in ./configure.in --- ../cvs-pgsql/configure.in 2007-11-16 21:25:10.0 +0100 +++ ./configure.in 2007-11-16 22:27:36.0 +0100 @@

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter, were you going to address this? --- Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce's suggestion of somehow checking this in the top Makefile is a possibility, but even better would be if creating configure from

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-17 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Gregory Stark wrote: Why is configure even checked in to CVS? Right now you don't even need autoconf installed to build out of CVS. Do we want to impose that as an extra requirement? And if we did it would need to be the same one used to cut tarballs, or one provably compatible.

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-17 Thread Gregory Stark
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) writes: configure (r1.570 - r1.571) (http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/configure?r1=1.570r2=1.571) It appears that Marc has got autoconf 2.61 installed now, instead of the 2.59 that

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-17 Thread Gregory Stark
Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:04:38AM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Yeah, I think it's a bit insane. Keeping a few Autoconf versions around isn't hard at all. We have been doing it for years. (Hint: ./configure; make; make install) Yeah. I

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:32:13AM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Freitag, 16. November 2007 schrieb Magnus Hagander: Last time it was flex (or was it bison). This time autoconf (which I beleive has happened before as well). It *will* happen again. Just download autoconf, bison, flex

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Freitag, 16. November 2007 schrieb Marc G. Fournier: I know right now we have three different versions 'required', just can't recall which fall under which ... You just look into the files to see what was used last time. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Freitag, 16. November 2007 schrieb Tom Lane: [ digs for a moment... ] According to my notes we are using autoconf 2.53 for versions 7.3-8.0 and 2.59 for the later branches. So 2.13 is already out of the picture. It might be that 2.53 to 2.59 to 2.61 is not all that big a jump in reality,

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Freitag, 16. November 2007 schrieb Magnus Hagander: Last time it was flex (or was it bison). This time autoconf (which I beleive has happened before as well). It *will* happen again. Just download autoconf, bison, flex from GNU and do a source install. That should cover the problem. --

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I reiterate my point that I think it'd be good with a dedicated VM to build the snapshots and releases off, that isn't affected by other changes to whatever machine happens to be used. This VM could then be given all the required

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 17:44:52 + Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 11:10:09 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Dave Page
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Maybe the BF members could just run their default autoconf as part of the build if they have one. you lost me on that one ... Tom is hestitant about moving to 6.1 because we don't know what the fall out will be ... since I imagine the fallout would be in the

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Magnus Hagander wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I reiterate my point that I think it'd be good with a dedicated VM to build the snapshots and releases off, that isn't affected by other changes to whatever machine happens to be used. This VM could then

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:04:38AM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Freitag, 16. November 2007 schrieb Tom Lane: [ digs for a moment... ] According to my notes we are using autoconf 2.53 for versions 7.3-8.0 and 2.59 for the later branches. So 2.13 is already out of the picture. It

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) writes: configure (r1.570 - r1.571) (http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/configure?r1=1.570r2=1.571) It appears that Marc has got autoconf 2.61 installed now, instead of the 2.59 that we've been using for some time. I'm a bit

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 20:49:04 -0800 Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore, only 2.13 and 2.61, so

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Magnus Hagander wrote: So let's create a VM for just this? This just moves the problem elsewhere: from use the right autoconf version to use the right VM. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:40:31 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps so, but it'd cost us a fair amount of up-front work to verify that we don't break the back branches by updating their configure scripts. Not something I want

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 11:10:09 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really not too sure what the functional incompatibilities between versions are, but given the extent of line-by-line diffs I've seen in the output of even

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Magnus Hagander
Tom Lane wrote: Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I reiterate my point that I think it'd be good with a dedicated VM to build the snapshots and releases off, that isn't affected by other changes to whatever machine happens to be used. This VM could then be given all the required

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Dave Page
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 11:10:09 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really not too sure what the functional incompatibilities between versions are, but given the extent of line-by-line diffs I've seen

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Dave Page wrote: Maybe the BF members could just run their default autoconf as part of the build if they have one. The problem here isn't really that we require a great testing and staging procedure for introducing new autoconf versions. The issue at hand is strictly that we shouldn't

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 18:00:26 + Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Maybe the BF members could just run their default autoconf as part of the build if they have one. you lost me on that one ... Tom is

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That would be a good idea, and really simply things ... FreeBSD seems to have drop'd off support for all but 2.13 and 2.61 ... If we do that, (I honestly don't know) what happens on versions that are running an older

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are making a mountain out of a molehill here. We've managed to get this right for years with very little fuss. Why make infrastructure to handle a problem that is at most marginal? I have more pressing concerns that building an autoconf step into

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Dave Page
Andrew Dunstan wrote: (And I share Tom's concern about version compatibility - the autoconf team don't have a great record on that IIRC.) Thats why I think it might be useful to keep an eye on what does and doesn't work. I agree it's not a major issue though, so if it's non-trivial to

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Dave Page
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 18:00:26 + Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Maybe the BF members could just run their default autoconf as part of the build if they have one. you lost me

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't commit but I can give access to a 2.59 version... Well, easiest is for Tom to run autoconf 2.59 and commit ... or Bruce ... Locally I've got several autoconf versions installed so that I can

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce's suggestion of somehow checking this in the top Makefile is a possibility, but even better would be if creating configure from configure.in failed outright. We have an AC_PREREQ in there that fails if autoconf is too old, but can we tighten it to also complain if too

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Dave Page wrote: Just curious, but isn't that something the buildfarm would be good for? generate/commit a 6.1 version of configure, and see if any of hte buildfarm environments break ... or am I missing something 'post-install' that could be affected? Maybe the BF members could just

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce's suggestion of somehow checking this in the top Makefile is a possibility, but even better would be if creating configure from configure.in failed outright. We have an AC_PREREQ in there that fails if autoconf is too old, but

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-16 Thread Tom Lane
Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I reiterate my point that I think it'd be good with a dedicated VM to build the snapshots and releases off, that isn't affected by other changes to whatever machine happens to be used. This VM could then be given all the required autoconf versions, and

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore, only 2.13 and 2.61, so can someone else please run autoconf and commit, and I'll re-tag ... - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 23:37:22 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) writes: configure (r1.570 - r1.571) (http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/configure?r1=1.570r2=1.571) It appears that Marc has got autoconf 2.61 installed now, instead of the 2.59 that we've been using for some

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore, only 2.13 and 2.61, so can someone else please run autoconf and commit, and I'll re-tag ... I can't commit but I can give access to a 2.59 version... Sincerely,

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 20:49:04 -0800 Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore,

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't commit but I can give access to a 2.59 version... Well, easiest is for Tom to run autoconf 2.59 and commit ... or Bruce ... Locally I've got several autoconf versions installed so that I can update back-branch

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 21:21:59 -0800 Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That would be a good idea, and really simply things ... FreeBSD seems to have

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:03:46 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't commit but I can give access to a 2.59 version... Well, easiest is for Tom to run

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:03:46 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either that or we try to move up all supported back branches to the latest autoconf version; which might be a good idea but it scares me a bit. That would be a good

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:40:31 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:03:46 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either that or we try to move up all

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore, only 2.13 and 2.61, so can someone else please run autoconf and commit, and I'll re-tag ... Done regards, tom lane ---(end of