Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-02-01 Thread Chander Ganesan
Joshua D. Drake wrote: To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on the part of employers to

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-02-01 Thread Chander Ganesan
Ivo, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the validate of this certification for the

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-02-01 Thread Chander Ganesan
Chander Ganesan wrote: Ivo, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the validate of this

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-24 Thread John Zubac
-development Subject: Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and CatOS and you go to lunch

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-24 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:50 AM, John Zubac wrote: I find your statements about Postgres being a huge business risk pretty laughable. First of all, Postgres is based on SQL92 and SQL99 standards which means that most scripts are pretty much the same compared to MSSQL and Oracle. The only thing

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Also comparing Postgres to MYSQL is also pretty funny, since there are instances of MYSQL LOSING databases due to corruption because they do not have PITR and their transaction rollback feature did not work properly last time I checked. This is really a issue of people being close minded to

[HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Iannsp
Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the validate of this certification for the clients. Make

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the validate of this certification for the

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 04:41:03PM -0500, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Theo Schlossnagle wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Theo Schlossnagle wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Theo Schlossnagle wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and CatOS and you go to lunch, they break it and you have a certain time allotment to fix it all. Most certifications are not simple multiple choice

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and CatOS and you go to lunch, they break it and you have a certain time allotment to fix it

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 05:19:45PM -0500, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and CatOS and you go to

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Oracle's certification programs have helped Oracle considerably in gaining the number of Oracle professionals in the job market. PostgreSQL certification has the opportunity to do the same and in doing so increase overall PostgreSQL adoption. That's a good thing. Well maybe it is just me,

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Theo Schlossnagle wrote: Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and CatOS and you go to lunch, they break it and you have a certain time allotment to fix it all. I know all about CCIE -

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on the part of employers to invest in upskilling

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Joshua D. Drake wrote: To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on the part of employers to

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Mark Kirkwood wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on the

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on