[Pharo-dev] Pharo and Amber

2014-06-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Is there an Amber-Pharo one click built with CI to allow development with both (amber for client, pharo on server). If not is it planned to provide one? Thx T.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo and Amber

2014-06-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 1 juin 2014 11:53, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de a écrit : Is there an Amber-Pharo one click built with CI to allow development with both (amber for client, pharo on server). Tide has both. Now I do not know if there is a CI job. Phil If not is it planned to provide one? Thx T.

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Like this https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?spec ? Le 01/06/2014 00:23, Camille Teruel a écrit : I once set up several discussion topics there but nobody filled them yet. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread kilon alios
So I have finished the second chapter , but, there is a sub section about Squeaksource which I don't think many people use anymore , will you keep this as it is ? Cause I was thinking maybe deleting that part and talk instead about Smalltalkhub. For the time being I have ported Squeaksource part

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
kilon alios wrote: So I have finished  the second chapter , but, there is a sub section about Squeaksource which I don't think many people use anymore , will you keep this as it is ? Cause I was thinking maybe deleting that part and talk instead about Smalltalkhub.  For the time

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-06-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40009 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread stepharo
Nice to see some progress on that front. I checked a bit and just a remark: pay attention to the coherent of word uppercasing in titles. A quick tour of Pharo vs. A Quick tout of Pharo. In PBE we do not use uppercase in title except for names. I read fast the QuickTour and fix them all.

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Darrin Massena
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:13 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Its not about having issues or not having issues, its about how much performance you consume for the GUI alone. I have installed both CPU performance monitor for 2.0GHZ Core2Duo iMac and my new i5 3.2 Ghz iMac. Moving

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Darrin Massena
If nobody has time to curate the information then an issue tracker is probably the way to go. At least then tidbits of information would be gathered in one stream with timestamps so one can gauge relevance. For example, I'm doing some performance measurements and would post them to a GUI

Re: [Pharo-dev] OpenGL 3.0+

2014-06-01 Thread Darrin Massena
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Ronie Salgado ronies...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, OK. Where is the old generator? I will look into it if nobody is already doing so. The old generator is in the NBOpenGL Smalltalk Hub repository. It does a lot of magic so working with it can be very

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread stepharo
I also fixed kjhjkhjh . - lkjlkjklj. lkjkl , kkklj - lkjkl, kkklj there is no space because diacritics in english so Pharo ? - Pharo? And I suggest to add some screen shots in the tour on pharo. I converted also extra bold into == == because code should be in == == I think

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread kilon alios
Thanks Stef , I will try to take account all you mentioned from now on to anything I port. I used spaces because it makes it much easier for me to read. I have not added more screenshots because you told me you wanted less. Obviously less screenshots is less work for me. I have tried to add all

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread stepharo
I did a full pass on Syntax in nutshell and I fixed tons of glitches. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] OpenGL 3.0+

2014-06-01 Thread Darrin Massena
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Backward compatibility can be a divisive subject. The disparate views expressed at [1] will give you a general overview of Pharo's philosophy. Now your question is slightly different to the usual backward-compatibility

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the verdict with the Squeksource section ? Do I covert it to a SmalltalkHub section or do I continue to chapter 4 ? I think you can keep the section about squeaksource and replace it with ss3 and smalltalkhub

[Pharo-dev] Moving class to package raises DNU includesClass:

2014-06-01 Thread stepharo
package includesClass: aClass step to reproduce - select a class - AbstractFontSelectorDialogWindow - choose Move to package ... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13291 Stef packageMatchingExtensionName: aString includingClass: aClass | package categoryName |

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread David T. Lewis
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:09:21PM +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the verdict with the Squeksource section ? Do I covert it to a SmalltalkHub section or do I continue to chapter 4 ? I think you can keep the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Moving class to package raises DNU includesClass:

2014-06-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 1 juin 2014 21:16, stepharo steph...@free.fr a écrit : package includesClass: aClass step to reproduce - select a class - AbstractFontSelectorDialogWindow - choose Move to package ... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13291 Stef packageMatchingExtensionName:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 98e82a: 40010

2014-06-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 98e82a8b47f6b25d4069d7374d4cc15147fb3fef https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/98e82a8b47f6b25d4069d7374d4cc15147fb3fef Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-06-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40010 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] ExternalPipemakePipe error

2014-06-01 Thread Max Leske
When trying to load PythonParser into 30 with Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo30/'; configurationOf: 'PythonParser'; loadDevelopment I get the following error (tested with …/30+vm and …/30+vmLatest). Any ideas? I’m on a MacBook Pro, OS X 10.9.3

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread stepharo
On 1/6/14 20:54, kilon alios wrote: Thanks Stef , I will try to take account all you mentioned from now on to anything I port. I used spaces because it makes it much easier for me to read. I have not added more screenshots because you told me you wanted less. Yes :) But one or two would be

Re: [Pharo-dev] ExternalPipemakePipe error

2014-06-01 Thread David T. Lewis
Check if your VM has the UnixOSProcessPlugin plugin. It looks like PythonParser is using OSProcess to connect to Python, so the plugin would need to be present in order for this to work. As a quick check, inspect OSProcess thisOSProcess pid. If you get an integer (the pid of your VM process),

Re: [Pharo-dev] OpenGL 3.0+

2014-06-01 Thread Ronie Salgado
On the Mac I have measured that the lowest level primitive for updating the screen (primShowRectLeft:right:top:bottom) is quite slow (48ms for a full screen update on my super-fast Mac Pro). It is doing pixel format conversion, creating a screen sized bitmap, copying the bits in, drawing the

[Pharo-dev] Rebound Home and End keys are non-functional on Mac

2014-06-01 Thread darrinm
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13292/Rebound-Home-and-End-keys-non-functional-on-Mac Rebound Home and End keys don't work on Macs except when used in conjunction with the Command key. Fortunately the VM already has code to handle rebound keys and is just missing entries for

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-01 14:44 GMT-03:00 Darrin Massena dar...@massena.com: Today's machines are thousands of times faster than the ones Smalltalk originally ran on. How much faster is its UI now? I don't think Moore's Law is going to fix the problem. It has ups and downs, if you get a Squeak 3.8 image and

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread darrinm
You get a Cuis image and it's super fast. What machine are you running on? I just gave the 2009 image of Cuis a try on my current-model Mac Pro (3.6 GHz, 6 cores, tons of RAM) and honestly just dragging a window around was terribly slow. Just guessing, I'd say 10 FPS or less which probably half

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I couldn't tell exactly, I haven't used Cuis in the last year or so, but at that time (Pharo 2 was new) it was the faster of the three brothers (Pharo/Squeak/Cuis). Maybe that changed lately and Cuis got slower too. Apparently it is very easy to bloat Morphic. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Darrin Massena
Yes. Reading what Juan Vuletich is working on for the next Morphic there is a lot said about things I imagine would negatively impact performance if a lot of deliberate effort isn't made to offset them. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: I couldn't

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I don't know how long will it take to revamp Morphic, last time I saw a demo of it at Smalltalks conference (~circa 2007/8), it was really promising, but didn't hear about it again. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-06-01 21:24 GMT-03:00 Darrin Massena dar...@massena.com: Yes. Reading what

Re: [Pharo-dev] GPU accelerated GUI

2014-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: I don't know how long will it take to revamp Morphic, last time I saw a demo of it at Smalltalks conference (~circa 2007/8), it was really promising, but didn't hear about it again. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo It seems Juan was concerned about his new

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
kilon alios wrote: ok will do that and you can take it from there and edit it later on if you want to add additional info. You might reuse what Steph wrote in section 4.3 "Saving a Milestone on SmalltalkHub"

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2014-06-01 Thread seaside
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Re: [Pharo-dev] ExternalPipemakePipe error

2014-06-01 Thread Damien Cassou
I think the plugin is only required to load the source code with gitfiltree On Jun 1, 2014 10:44 PM, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote: Check if your VM has the UnixOSProcessPlugin plugin. It looks like PythonParser is using OSProcess to connect to Python, so the plugin would need to be

Re: [Pharo-dev] ExternalPipemakePipe error

2014-06-01 Thread Max Leske
On 01.06.2014, at 22:43, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote: Check if your VM has the UnixOSProcessPlugin plugin. It looks like PythonParser is using OSProcess to connect to Python, so the plugin would need to be present in order for this to work. As a quick check, inspect