Check this out..here is an Edison Standard going for over $1,000 on eBay. The
interesting thing is, one bidder placed 13 consecutive bids within a few
minutes, bidding against himself each time, and taking the price from $599 to
$1000. I call shilling. What do you think??
John Robles
PAT 1898
No, he was bidding against someone else...but not catching up.
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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:21 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
Check this out..here is an Edison
It's probably someone who doesn't know what the machine is worth, they
both have lots of feedback (the bidders). I can't imagine paying more than
500 bucks for that machine. The one interesting thing of note is that it
has a slotted crank, not threaded. My banner standard A has a threaded
crank
A yeah. I get it. I find it amazing anyone would bid that much
for a Standard though.
From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay
Really? All banner Standard As I have had or seen the black slotted crank. The
early banner Standard B had a threaded crank. The difference between the A and
b Banner machines is that the A had the speed control knob above the bedplate,
the B had the speed control below the bedplate. Are you
Regarding the crank on Standards. My Standard A has the slotted crank as I
thought they all did. So I checked Frow's book and he also says the A had a
slotted crank. The Standard B's had threaded cranks. Is it possible your
banner machine is the early Standard B that had the banner? My
Mine has the speed control through the top and also is in the shorter
green oak case with a banner.
On 3/3/12 8:17 AM, Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net wrote:
Regarding the crank on Standards. My Standard A has the slotted crank as
I
thought they all did. So I checked Frow's book and he
Actually, this is the problem with placing proxy bids early on eBay. He
probably did not want to pay $1,000, but definitely wanted the machine and
didn't want to be sniped at the end, so placed a high proxy bid to avoid being
outbid. However, he didn't take into account the nutcase OCD bidders
Check the bid history, my point is proven. There is someone who wants that
machine for $1,060+That bidder is:i***l( 1259)
Obviously, he/she was determined to find the previous bidder's limit and then
exceed it, no matter what the item is worth.The lesson to be learned is this -
don't place a
The problem with bidding early is as vinyl states. Also the bidder has a
feeling of ownership. That is to say if someone bids they are taking your
item away and you will attack with a new and higher bid. I use attack
because that is just what the lizard brain does...Someone took it away.
Sneak
Is it possible your banner machine is the early Standard B that had the banner?
Hello Glenn,
You are correct.
If the crank is threaded it is a B. All A's have the slotted cranks. That is
how you tell an A from a B.
The ICS machines all have the speed control above the bedplate. If
The following message has been posted by the ARSC Outreach Committee. If you
have any questions, please click on the links or e-mail addresses below.
--- ARSC PRE-CONFERENCE WORKSHOP 2012 ---
The Education and Training Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound
Collections presents
A two minute Standard with no horn, no crane and no belt for $1,060? The seller
made out like a bandit... where are these buyers when I am selling something?
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 06:09:37 -0800
From: john9...@pacbell.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
This message was hooked onto the one about shill bidding.
I am not a member of ARSC, but would join if:
Would this be a good place to sell my 4 Edisons, 1 Victor, and about a dozen
large horns? (I'd ask about the records, but all of this won't fit into my
car...well maybe a few records).
If you go back and look real hard at that machine you will note that it
is far from prime condition. The belt tensoiner looks to be missing in
action and the top does not aper to have a matchng finish but this may
be lighting. The corrosion on several parts is nota good sign though.
I bet it
The ARSC conference is not a Trade Show or something like Union or even
MAPS Phonovention. It is a professionally run conference with many well known
speakers about anything dealing with sound recording preservation.
About 25-30% of attendees are professional archivists or record
When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph book the printer
missed some text. I don't think it appeared when George did the expanded
Companion book.
The Model A Standard used a pin crank engagement. The motor was held *up
against* the bedplate with screws through rubber
Mine is in the short (green) oak case, the motor has the external speed
control and is held up against the bed plate/no springs and it has a
threaded crank.
Bill
On 3/3/12 11:24 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:
When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph
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