Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model

2012-03-03 Thread Bill Taney
Mine is in the short (green) oak case, the motor has the external speed control and is held up against the bed plate/no springs and it has a threaded crank. Bill On 3/3/12 11:24 PM, "clockworkh...@aol.com" wrote: > > >When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph book the >printer m

[Phono-L] Edison Standard A versus B Model

2012-03-03 Thread clockworkhome
When George and I did the 1976 Edison cylinder phonograph book the printer missed some text. I don't think it appeared when George did the expanded Companion book. The Model A Standard used a pin crank engagement. The motor was held *up against* the bedplate with screws through rubber gromm

Re: [Phono-L] ARSC conference Rochester

2012-03-03 Thread Srsells1
The ARSC conference is not a Trade Show or something like Union or even MAPS Phonovention. It is a professionally run conference with many well known speakers about anything dealing with sound recording preservation. About 25-30% of attendees are professional archivists or record librariarn

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Rich
If you go back and look real hard at that machine you will note that it is far from prime condition. The belt tensoiner looks to be missing in action and the top does not aper to have a matchng finish but this may be lighting. The corrosion on several parts is nota good sign though. I bet it i

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Vinyl Visions
Thanks for the compliment, Steve... > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 18:36:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? > > > where are these buyers when I am selling something? > . It was the way he described it, 110 years old and someone

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Steven Medved
where are these buyers when I am selling something? . It was the way he described it, 110 years old and someone that was ignorant purchased it. Four years ago a standard described as mint, 100% of the pin striping was GONE and it was one of the WORSE standards I have ever seen, but the sell

[Phono-L] ARSC conference Rochester

2012-03-03 Thread ger
This message was hooked onto the one about shill bidding. I am not a member of ARSC, but would join if: Would this be a good place to sell my 4 Edisons, 1 Victor, and about a dozen large horns? (I'd ask about the records, but all of this won't fit into my car...well maybe a few records). Also

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Vinyl Visions
A two minute Standard with no horn, no crane and no belt for $1,060? The seller made out like a bandit... where are these buyers when I am selling something? > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 06:09:37 -0800 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? >

[Phono-L] ARSC Pre-Conference Workshop 2012 -- Details

2012-03-03 Thread Bill Klinger
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[Phono-L] Standard A has the slotted crank

2012-03-03 Thread Steven Medved
Is it possible your banner machine is the early Standard B that had the banner? Hello Glenn, You are correct. If the crank is threaded it is a B. All A's have the slotted cranks. That is how you tell an A from a B. The ICS machines all have the speed control above the bedplate. If y

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Mike Stitt
The problem with bidding early is as vinyl states. Also the bidder has a feeling of ownership. That is to say if someone bids they are taking your item away and you will "attack" with a new and higher bid. I use attack because that is just what the lizard brain does...Someone took it away. Sneak at

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Vinyl Visions
Check the bid history, my point is proven. There is someone who wants that machine for $1,060+That bidder is:i***l( 1259) Obviously, he/she was determined to find the previous bidder's limit and then exceed it, no matter what the item is worth.The lesson to be learned is this - don't place a pr

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Vinyl Visions
Actually, this is the problem with placing "proxy" bids early on eBay. He probably did not want to pay $1,000, but definitely wanted the machine and didn't want to be sniped at the end, so placed a high proxy bid to avoid being outbid. However, he didn't take into account the nutcase OCD bidder

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Bill Taney
Mine has the speed control through the top and also is in the shorter green oak case with a banner. On 3/3/12 8:17 AM, "Glenn Longwell" wrote: >Regarding the crank on Standards. My Standard A has the slotted crank as >I >thought they all did. So I checked Frow's book and he also says the A >h

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Glenn Longwell
Regarding the crank on Standards. My Standard A has the slotted crank as I thought they all did. So I checked Frow's book and he also says the A had a slotted crank. The Standard B's had threaded cranks. Is it possible your banner machine is the early Standard B that had the banner? My earl

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread john robles
Really? All banner Standard As I have had or seen the black slotted crank. The early banner Standard B had a threaded crank. The difference between the A and b Banner machines is that the A had the speed control knob above the bedplate, the B had the speed control below the bedplate. Are you sur

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread john robles
A yeah. I get it. I find it amazing anyone would bid that much for a Standard though. From: George Glastris To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? No, he was bidding against

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread Bill Taney
It's probably someone who doesn't know what the machine is worth, they both have lots of feedback (the bidders). I can't imagine paying more than 500 bucks for that machine. The one interesting thing of note is that it has a slotted crank, not threaded. My banner standard A has a threaded crank and

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread George Glastris
No, he was bidding against someone else...but not catching up. - Original Message - From: "john robles" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:21 AM Subject: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? Check this out..here is an Edison Standard going for over $1,000 on eBa

[Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

2012-03-03 Thread john robles
Check this out..here is an Edison Standard going for over $1,000 on eBay. The interesting thing is, one bidder placed 13 consecutive bids within a few minutes, bidding against himself each time, and taking the price from $599 to $1000. I call shilling. What do you think?? John Robles PAT 1898 E