It probably doesn't use the virtual cwd stuff. Can you try and compile
without thread-safety and see if it works?
Its a sablotron thing I believe... You need to either specify absolute paths
(or ./... should work), or you can use xslt_set_base (i think).
-Sterling
Andi
I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but while we're getting all
crazy with breaking compat in 4.1 and/or 5.0, why not go ahead and
finally fix empty(0) to return false, like it really should (a
string with 0 in it, is *not* imho an empty string).
-Sterling
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don't see what's hacky
about this (plus sometimes you need to write hacky code just to
get something simple done).
-Sterling
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
The only possible valid point here
ID: 13038
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Status: Closed
Bug Type: HTTP related
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fixed in cvs, thanks.
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ID: 13225
Updated by: sterling
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Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: cURL related
Operating System: linux
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
not a php bug.
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ID: 13776
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Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: XSLT related
Operating System: Debian
PHP Version: 4.1.0RC1
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not a bug, --enable-shared=xslt is correct way.
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php know
what type of data is there, so it appropriately spits out your
unparsed code.
-Sterling
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ID: 13303
Updated by: sterling
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Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: cURL related
Operating System: Cobalt Linux 5.0
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
fixed in cvs.
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this happened when
Zeev introduced the session rewrite... I've commited a fix to cvs,
i'll MTB, if no one objects...
-Sterling
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ID: 13494
Updated by: sterling
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Old Status: Open
Status: Feedback
Bug Type: XSLT related
Operating System: linux 2.4.10 debian/testing
PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-10-01
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Can you please supply a short reproducable test case? Thanks!
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that implements it)?
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can strace or gdb to a thread and wait for
it to come up if that would help.
Sorry, unless I have a reproducable test case I can't fix the leak,
it could be in any number of places...
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, I'll add a configure check.
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it be at all logical to check the cURL version? not
really, I'd assume that since PHP compiled with my cURL that all
constants are available... only digging through the source will
reveal that some constants are #ifdef'd out.
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
zend_llist.c
D:\home\php\php4\Zend\zend_llist.c(214) : warning C4018: '' :
Conflict between signed and unsigned
Fixed in CVS.
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/php4/ext/curl'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/php4/ext'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
hmm,
Try latest cvs with one of the curl pre-releases (the latest pre
release should work fine).
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php version supports which
features, but also which curl version linked with php supports these
features, this is a real headache.
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will cause a slow down in PHP...
another thought is to have rand() check whether or not its been
seeded, and if it has been seeded, use the previous seed, otherwise,
seed the generator (I'm currently leaning towards the latter).
-Sterling
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:09:07 -0400 (EDT
which is assigned to foo, which
you then pass to bar). So thread safety should *not* be affected.
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the following error:
cvs server: [04:44:54] waiting for php's lock in /repository/Zend
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, this should be made available to all
programs using Zend.
Comments are appreciated and welcome... I'll commit after an
appropriate mourning period if no one speaks up.
-Sterling
Index: ext/hyperwave/hg_comm.c
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RCS
not been update with Zend, I think I know what needs to be
done in there, although I have no way of testing it (zend_qsort.c
needs to be added as a source file).
Anybody have a win32 testing environment I could use to test all
these changes?
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if all of the developers agree on this.
And if not, WHY. :)
+1, perhaps from an api perspective we could have something like:
$vn = php_get_version(GD);
or if the argument is empty, return the main php version:
$phpVer = php_get_version();
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ID: 13319
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Regexps related
Operating System: Linux
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
This is impossible due to the fact that ereg_replace() supports the specifying of
ascii values as a replacement argument.
Previous
only, if you don't have host installed try dig or
nslookup)
-Sterling
-andy
At 02:14 14.09.2001 -0400, you wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not entirely positive but not sure if you can use the domain name
in the
include.. in other words try:
?php
. It doesn't check for proper
function usage, but rather, where dangerous functions are used. For
example, it reports a warning every time someone uses sprintf()...
Its not something I'd worry about...
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ID: 13219
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Operating System: Windows 98
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
register_shutdown_function() returns void, this is not a bug
Previous Comments
ID: 8118
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Assigned
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Session related
Operating System: MIPS V4
PHP Version: 4.0.3pl1
Assigned To: sas
New Comment:
Fixed in CVS.
Previous Comments
, its simply
register_shutdown_function(end_func);
-Sterling
Ps: Support questions should really be asked on
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ID: 8961
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Analyzed
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Math related
Operating System: N/A
PHP Version: 4.0 Latest CVS (27/01/2001)
New Comment:
PHP is not to my knowledge ASP. This is won't (shouldn't)
be added anytime soon...
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ID: 9054
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Class/Object related
Operating System: Linux/Solaris
PHP Version: 4.0.4pl1
New Comment:
you must pass a reference, anyhoo, call_user_method() is
deprecated, use call_user_function(array($obj, Meethod));
syntax
ID: 10204
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Feedback
Bug Type: Sockets related
Operating System: Linux, BSD and Windows
PHP Version: 4.0 Latest CVS (06/04/2001)
New Comment:
Can you compile php with --enable-debug, this should report
all leaks
ID: 10236
Updated by: sterling
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Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Filesystem function related
Operating System: Linux 2.2.5 / glibc 2.0.7
PHP Version: 4.0.4
New Comment:
wow :)
No this is not a bug... and no we shouldn't be doing an
fflush(), you can do
ID: 10477
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Output Control
Operating System: linux 2.2
PHP Version: 4.0.4pl1
New Comment:
Fixed in CVS.
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[2001
ID: 10805
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Compile Failure
Operating System: Tru64/OSF1 V5.0 a
PHP Version: 4.0.5
New Comment:
this problem shouldn't be present now...
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this can't be merged as the default argument, but I'm
sure sascha had a reason. sascha? :)
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ID: 4025
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Misbehaving function
Operating System: Linux RH6.1 / WinNT4
PHP Version: 3.0.15
New Comment:
not a bug, ask php support questions on
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ID: 5708
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Misbehaving function
Operating System: Linux
PHP Version: 3.0.16
New Comment:
I highly doubt this is truly a PHP bug, if you can find a
test case that can always be reproduced, please open
and are very
rudimentary its just no one with api familiarity, also has the patience
to improve them :)
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 00:27 10-09-01, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Oh yeah, not to mention the license is pretty bad :) I give up all
rights
to the material that I write (more so than an assignment of rights,
which is standard for contributors to commercial
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 00:27 10-09-01, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Oh yeah, not to mention the license is pretty bad :) I give up all
rights
to the material that I write (more so than an assignment of rights
that documentation isn't
important - it is important to have a reference, and some people do prefer
coding that way.
hrmm, imho, good documentation has at its core, good examples,
it is extremely important to reinforce concepts in the text with
real-life examples.
-Sterling
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 01:28 10-09-01, Sterling Hughes wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 00:27 10-09-01, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Oh yeah, not to mention the license is pretty bad :) I give up all
rights
to the material that I write
specific comments belong on list :)
I didn't Cc to php-dev, since I could be breaking the law... but you may
forward this mail to it :-)
I am. ;)
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... fixed in cvs.
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
Noop... fixed in cvs.
Good catch Sebastian. We need to keep an eye on this Sterling guy!
Sometimes I wonder if he introduces bugs like this just to see if someone
will catch them. He introduced it about 2 days ago in this patch:
http
ID: 13170
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Reproducible crash
Operating System: RedHat 7.1
PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-09-06
New Comment:
it works fine for me with the latest CVS, are you *sure* you tested it with the CVS
version
ID: 3457
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Status: Closed
Bug Type: Feature/Change Request
Operating System: Linux
PHP Version: 4.0
New Comment:
added (except for regcomp(), but you'll see a warning if eregi is passed an invalid
regex).
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ID: 8109
Updated by: sterling
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Status: Closed
Bug Type: Feature/Change Request
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PHP Version: 4.0.3pl1
New Comment:
and it won't :)))
Please use the new XSLT extension (which doesn't have output
://bugs.php.net/?
Can you generate a backtrace? Or give a short test script to
reproduce this error?
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ID: 12022
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Output Control
Operating System: linux
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
use the header() function, btw, Perl is not php,
gzopen(php://stdout, w) is not the same as the Perl example.
Previous
I see the following in rand.c, any reason for the inline
declaration?
static inline php_uint32 randomMT(TSRMLS_D)
??
I just removed it, please object if I've done something wrong here :)
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
sterlingWed Sep 5 16:52:45 2001 EDT
Modified files:
/php4/ext/standard rand.c
Log:
a bit of api cleanup... move range stuff into a macro (properly :)
I have to ask
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
sterlingWed Sep 5 16:52:45 2001 EDT
Modified files:
/php4/ext/standard rand.c
Log:
a bit of api cleanup... move range stuff into a macro (properly
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Ok, I'm sold... I understand the basics of the format and the
function, but is the following possible?::
In the situation of rand() when its that are two arguments are
mandatory
you, but if the code doesn't jive, it shouldn't be in the
repository, I'm sorry if you feel like you've wasted effort, but
that doesn't change the facts.
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Jason Greene wrote:
Sterling,
Did you get a chance to review my notes and patch.
I would like to make a commit of at least the proper Solaris fix
before RC2.
Took a look at it now.. Go ahead and commit...
Múy Thanks :)
-Sterling
Thanks,
Jason
handle ms outlook attachments (I've had
this problem before). Perhaps you could use another mail client?
Thanks,
Sterling
begin 666 php.diff
M26YD97@Z(5X=]I;G1EF)AV4O:6YT97)B87-E+F,-/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]
M/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]
M/3T]/3T]/3T]/0U20U
to ignore php-dev for a few days until I'm ready to
face the firestorm I know I'm stirring up. When the smoke clears,
somebody please let me know. :)
Please don't start an issue and then ignore it ;), I don't bite (well,
I rarely bite).
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ID: 13113
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: *General Issues
Operating System: RH 6.2+linux 2.2.15
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
You need to update your cURL installation to the latest version and then it should
work.
Previous
ID: 13009
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Sablotron XSL
Operating System: Solaris 2.6
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
The code is C99 compliant, odd.
Fixed in CVS, thanks. (btw, It's better to use the new XSLT extension, ext/xslt
ID: 12836
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Sablotron XSL
Operating System: Debian GNU Linux (woody)
PHP Version: 4.0.5
New Comment:
You'll want the new XSLT extension, ext/xslt, please upgrade, these problems should go
bye-bye
ID: 12931
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Sablotron XSL
Operating System: Linux 2.2.19
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
Not a PHP bug, report to the Sablotron Folks
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ID: 12931
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Closed
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Sablotron XSL
Operating System: Linux 2.2.19
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
Sorry Jani :)
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ID: 12974
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: cURL related
Operating System: freebsd
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
relevant patches committed, thanks.
Previous Comments
to have at least libcurl 8.0
-Sterling
Another detail: libs from openssl.0.9.6..rpm were not
properly registered in my rpm db so installing libcurl
also complained - even though they're there!
But then I noticed there's libcrypto and libssl
0.9.6 a b and I've got b. So I've made links
Hey all,
Just giving notice, I'll be reverting the recent rand changes
tomorrow (well, technically later today)
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
phpMyAdmin 2.2.0 crashes with latest CVS, CGI/Win32 in
ext/standard/string.c:585:
php_trim2(*str, *what, return_value, 3 TSRMLS_CC);
Fixed in CVS, thanks ;)
-Sterling
No Sex, No Alchohol, No Weed, PHP is all I need
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Sterling Hughes wrote:
Fixed in CVS, thanks ;)
Testing now...
K...
No Sex, No Alchohol, No Weed, PHP is all I need
-Sebastian Bergmann
Quote correctly, see
http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/psummary.php3?id
pre-patch (well redundant from a PHP4 perspective).
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can even use php-code already, thanks to eval :)
Maybe we better make it a PEAR-thing?
Not really, the below is a different functionality (and the above is
slow because of the use of eval)... +1 for it being in the core...
-Sterling
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 12:25:15PM +0200
are Red-black tree's, AVL tree's, Simple Binary
Search Tree's and Btree's).
Thoughts? I'm currently leaning towards the first one...
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Jon Parise wrote:
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 07:29:59PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Hey,
extension and was wondering what people thought as more intuitive,
something like:
$tree = tree_new(AVL_TREE);
tree_insert($tree, $element, compare_func
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:
Quoting Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jep -- I'm writing PEAR OO wrappers for every ADT that I implement
in a functional manner. I'm think for the OO wrappers, seperate
class names wouldn't be horrible, something like
for wxWindows and then when compiling for Win32 systems, it
will use the native win32 interface (unlike GTK programs -- which
look the same on win32 and linux). If you're compiling for a
Macintosh envionment -- it uses the native Mac API.
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
My understanding is that it provides native support -- ie, you
write for wxWindows and then when compiling for Win32 systems, it
will use the native win32 interface (unlike GTK programs
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Some people prefer having all applications on the same platform look
the same. ie, GTK programs look a bit odd, compared to your normal
win32 apps (or on KDE for example).
You are right
?
What should it do?
Shell filename globbing ...
man glob ... or perldoc -f glob || perldoc File::Glob
See File/Find.php in the pear distribution.
-Sterling
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Use cURL.
-Sterling
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: All
PHP version: 4.0.6
PHP Bug Type: Feature/Change Request
Bug description: Speaking of Payment Processing... will PHP ever have a POST()
function?
Speaking of Payment Processing
...).
So the question them comes -- what should I use for my base implementation?
I'm currently debating between (threaded and non-threaded varients
including) AVL tree's and Red-Black tree's. However, any other thoughts
are welcome as well. Comments, Questions?
-Sterling
Ps: I
committed for me, all php tests in
httpd-test are now passing under 2.0. also working fine through mod_ssl
(t/TEST -ssl)
Patch applied -- thanks :)
-Sterling
#0 php_apache_sapi_flush (server_context=0x0) at sapi_apache2.c:175
175bb = apr_brigade_create(ctx-f-r-pool);
(gdb
applied -- thanks again.
-Sterling
thanks. this one gets rid of a warning...
Index: sapi_apache2.c
===
RCS file: /repository/php4/sapi/apache2filter/sapi_apache2.c,v
retrieving revision 1.45
diff -u -r1.45
co-exist with some level of harmony, but changes do
need to me made, and communication needs to occur where people on
both sides listen to each others concerns.
-Sterling
Any man is liable to error, but only a fool persists in error.
-Cicero (Since we're doing the whole latin
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 12:15 15-08-01, Sterling Hughes wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 10:23 15-08-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
[Hi,
I think one of the problems with this is that even if php-dev comes up
with a system for determining
list like Sterling
suggested, a-la [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't such a bad idea.
Thanks for proving that you are not interested in a dialogue.
If bickering is your definition of dialogue then all I can say is - you're
quite welcome!
What's your definition of dialogue? I'm more than
ID: 12733
Updated by: sterling
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: cURL related
Operating System: Linux 2.2.19-x86
PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-08-14
New Comment:
Its a cURL bug (so quoth the author of cURL). the problem is your supplying the
CURLOPT_POST
(runnable
script that produces the segfault)?
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Proposal: Foo*
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Rasmus +0This should help fix issue x and bug y.
Richard -
Sascha +0This proposal supports RFC 10921 in a good way.
Sterling -0RFC 10921 is kind of strange.
Torben -1There is already too
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Zak Greant wrote:
Joey wrote:
Are you doing a new O'Reilly book, PHP-DEV in a nutshell?
Subtitled: A Rogues Gallery ;)
-Sterling
I especially enjoy the idea of positive zero and negative
zero. :)
I think that +/-0 would accurately portray
Hi,
What's the purpose of this function? It's prototype is:
/* {{{ proto string shell_exec(string cmd)
Use pclose() for FILE* that has been opened via popen() */
What advantage does this have over something like exec() or
system()?
-Sterling
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just feel that php-dev@ is not the appropriate place for such stuff.
Take it up on group@, or find some place else to deal with it
(or perhaps another developer meeting where these issues could really
be worked on, face to face?)
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to be fixed.
I was able to generate the attached backtrace...
-Sterling
Starting program: /usr/local/bin/php tst.php
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0808b6a3 in php_sock_fgets_internal (buf=0xbfffded0 , maxlen=127,
sock=0x824dcac) at fsock.c:553
553
On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Andrew Lindeman formally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't use fopen (file) to get anything off the
internet with the latest cvs...
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$file=fopen(http://php.net/,r;);
fpassthru($file);
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Will produce Segmentation
to it.
-Sterling
Ps: The Midguard folks needed this feature/ran up against this wall
awhile ago as well. Its the only reason I was able to find the
problem without hours of painful debugging ;-)
Index: zend_API.h
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return 0;
}
/* }}} */
That's used to register the class. If you can think of another way
to do (*don't* say macro ;-), then I'd be more than willing to hear
it, but otherwise...
-Sterling
Zeev
At 05:53 06/08/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Hey
-GTK would be,
but...), however, as PHP gets more and more extensions written in C,
there needs to be this functionality. All other programming
languages that I know of have the functionality as well
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
That's used to register the class. If you can think of another way
to do (*don't* say macro ;-), then I'd be more than willing to hear
it, but otherwise...
You can just initialize
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 19:40 06/08/2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
At 07:10 06/08/2001, Sterling Hughes wrote:
What if you use 50 different shared extensions, for different
scripts on the same box? Should you load
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