[PHP-DEV] I'm Back

2002-09-01 Thread James Cox
For those who may be interested, I am back from my trip to California, and am going through mails. --James -- James Cox :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://james.blogs.at/ Was I helpful? http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/wishlist/23IVGHQ61RJGO/ -- PHP Development Mailing List

[PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread James Cox
Phil Copeland @ redhat pointed me at this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=72752 Seems that there are a number of issues (i'm going to verify patch his fixes right now). The other he mentions is mbstring seems to cause problems. I have experienced this too. Guys, i

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread derick
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, James Cox wrote: The other he mentions is mbstring seems to cause problems. I have experienced this too. Guys, i don't want to be mean or sound racist or anything else you throw at me. But mbstring really isn't a core module, and very few people will require

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
James Cox wrote: I vote to remove mbstring as a default module. +1 -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing List

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS php.ini-dist php.ini-recommended /main main.c output.c php_globals.h php_output.h

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Sebastian Bergmann wrote: sebastian Sun Sep 1 07:33:19 2002 EDT Modified files: /php4 NEWS php.ini-dist php.ini-recommended /php4/main main.c output.c php_globals.h php_output.h Log: Per discussion on #php.bugs (+1 from at least Derick and Jani),

[PHP-DEV] Re: mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread CHAILLAN Nicolas
James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phil Copeland @ redhat pointed me at this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=72752 Seems that there are a number of issues (i'm going to verify patch his fixes right now). The other he

[PHP-DEV] Clone fonction of ftp_quit

2002-09-01 Thread CHAILLAN Nicolas
Why not renaming it to ftp_close so it can be like fclose, mysql_close... that would be more generic than quit. Objections? Ideas? -- Merci de nous avoir choisi. - Thanks you for your choice. Nicos - CHAILLAN Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GroupAKT.com - Hébergement Group.

[PHP-DEV] Re: Clone fonction of ftp_quit

2002-09-01 Thread CHAILLAN Nicolas
Ewps, I just saw that it already exists, sorry. -- Merci de nous avoir choisi. - Thanks you for your choice. Nicos - CHAILLAN Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GroupAKT.com - Hébergement Group. www.WorldAKT.com - Hébergement de sites Internet Chaillan Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] a

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS php.ini-dist php.ini-recommended /main main.c output.c php_globals.h php_output.h

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Thies C. Arntzen wrote: why? Because it's broken. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 10:10 31.08.2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Reproducing script: ?php class Test { function Test() { ob_start(array($this, 'transform')); } function transform($buffer) { ob_end_clean(); return $buffer; } } $test =

Re: [PHP-DEV] Reverting ob_*() changes

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 14:40 31.08.2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: In recent days there was a lot of discussion on reverting Marcus' changes to the output buffering on #php.bugs. I'm not sure if http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/revert does this properly, so I don't want to commit it myself.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Marcus Börger wrote: Ever tried this in earlier version of PHP? I guess not! I tested it with PHP 4.2.3-RC1, and it's broken there, too. I did not claim that you broke this one, Marcus, so why the harsh tone? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS php.ini-dist php.ini-recommended /main main.c output.c php_globals.h php_output.h

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 14:56 01.09.2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Thies C. Arntzen wrote: why? Because it's broken. Until now the only thing you were able to deliver is a script that is also broken for 4.2.3. Since the code of output-buffering is not capable to do what you did in that script... marcus AND

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 15:06 01.09.2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Marcus Börger wrote: Ever tried this in earlier version of PHP? I guess not! I tested it with PHP 4.2.3-RC1, and it's broken there, too. I did not claim that you broke this one, Marcus, so why the harsh tone? Because you reverted

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS php.ini-distphp.ini-recommended /main main.c output.c php_globals.h php_output.h

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Marcus Börger wrote: Until now the only thing you were able to deliver is a script that is also broken for 4.2.3. You're mixing issues here. In recent days I discovered 3 problems with ob_*() functionality: 1.) Dumping of a text instead of writing it to a file. This one is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS php.ini-distphp.ini-recommended /main main.c output.c php_globals.h php_output.h

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Marcus Börger wrote: AND please: we had an agreement that discussion has to take place on this mailinglist and not at efnet Well, it was also agreed upon to discuss the addition of new .ini entries or enabling of new extensions by default, no? Whether or not you like, a good amount of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:10 01/09/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: The problem is that in function PHPAPI void php_end_ob_buffer(zend_bool send_buffer, zend_bool just_flush TSRMLS_DC) the user function is called wether or not send_buffer is zero. (Zero means flush here and means the function must not be called, as far

RE: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Mike Robinson
James Cox wrote: I vote to remove mbstring as a default module. +1 Let us STOP burdening default builds with crap that is unlikely to be used. Amen. Regards Mike Robinson -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Dan Kalowsky
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, James Cox wrote: I vote to remove mbstring as a default module. +1000 And for those who say that i could just disable it -- well, the converse is true. Let us STOP burdening default builds with crap that is unlikely to be used. Another voice of reason! Welcome!

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 15:25 01.09.2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 16:10 01/09/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: The problem is that in function PHPAPI void php_end_ob_buffer(zend_bool send_buffer, zend_bool just_flush TSRMLS_DC) the user function is called wether or not send_buffer is zero. (Zero means flush here and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 17:51 01/09/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: At 15:25 01.09.2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 16:10 01/09/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: The problem is that in function PHPAPI void php_end_ob_buffer(zend_bool send_buffer, zend_bool just_flush TSRMLS_DC) the user function is called wether or not send_buffer

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Brian France
At 10:49 AM +0100 9/1/02, James Cox wrote: I vote to remove mbstring as a default module. I completely agree! I do have one request, when the time comes to remove it from the default also change the PHP core code so that it can be built as a shared extension and loaded on the fly. Currently

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 17:10 01.09.2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 17:51 01/09/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: At 15:25 01.09.2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 16:10 01/09/2002, Marcus Börger wrote: The problem is that in function PHPAPI void php_end_ob_buffer(zend_bool send_buffer, zend_bool just_flush TSRMLS_DC) the user

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Marcus Börger wrote: The problem here again is that in ob handlers no ob_xxx() function can be called. FYI: I know that I shouldn't do that, but I tried ?php class Test { function Test() { ob_start(array($this, 'transform')); } function

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 18:02 01.09.2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Marcus Börger wrote: The problem here again is that in ob handlers no ob_xxx() function can be called. FYI: I know that I shouldn't do that, but I tried ?php class Test { function Test() { ob_start(array($this,

RE: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread James Cox
I do have one request, when the time comes to remove it from the default also change the PHP core code so that it can be built as a shared extension and loaded on the fly. Currently it can only be compiled into PHP statically and building it as .so means hacking the PHP source and the

[PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string

2002-09-01 Thread Lukas Schroeder
hi, i can crash my php here by using these lines: ?php $a = ''; $a .= EOF EOF; ? can anyone second this? regards, -lukas #0 0x403218b5 in _zval_dtor (zvalue=0xbfffe214, __zend_filename=0x4038dc80 /home/azzit/src/cvs/php4/php4/Zend/zend_operators.c, __zend_lineno=1057)

Re: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string

2002-09-01 Thread derick
Hey, I can reproduce this crash: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x081f8ddf in _zval_dtor (zvalue=0xbfffd3f0, __zend_filename=0x8272220 /dat/dev/php/php-4.3.0dev/Zend/zend_operators.c, __zend_lineno=1057) at /dat/dev/php/php-4.3.0dev/Zend/zend_variables.c:43 43

Re: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string

2002-09-01 Thread Andrey Hristov
No problems on win32 , php-430-dev cli.ZE2. Best regards Andrey Hristov - Original Message - From: Lukas Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string hi, i can crash my php

RE: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string

2002-09-01 Thread Mike Robinson
No problems with 4.2.2 as apache-1.3.26 dso on RH-7.2 Regards Mike Robinson -Original Message- From: Lukas Schroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string hi, i can

[PHP-DEV] Antispam system

2002-09-01 Thread CHAILLAN Nicolas
Hello, many people that try to send me a mail are stopped by the antispam system, they should answer to the message so I can get the mail, this is fine, but many people don't understand it and just dont do it, is there a way to deactivate it? -- Merci de nous avoir choisi. - Thanks you for your

RE: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Brian France
At 6:29 PM +0100 9/1/02, James Cox wrote: Where is your patch? The patch basically renames php_treat_data to php_treat_data_default, creates a function pointer called php_treat_data that is defaulted to php_treat_data_default, removes all mbstrings references in php_main.h and makes mbstring.c

Re: [PHP-DEV] Antispam system

2002-09-01 Thread Sander Roobol
See http://master.php.net/manage/users.php (when it's up again) Sander On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 08:28:46PM +0200, CHAILLAN Nicolas wrote: Hello, many people that try to send me a mail are stopped by the antispam system, they should answer to the message so I can get the mail, this is fine,

RE: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 20:38 01.09.2002, Brian France wrote: At 6:29 PM +0100 9/1/02, James Cox wrote: Where is your patch? The patch basically renames php_treat_data to php_treat_data_default, creates a function pointer called php_treat_data that is defaulted to php_treat_data_default, removes all mbstrings

RE: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Brian France
At 8:47 PM +0200 9/1/02, Marcus Börger wrote: At 20:38 01.09.2002, Brian France wrote: At 6:29 PM +0100 9/1/02, James Cox wrote: Where is your patch? The patch basically renames php_treat_data to php_treat_data_default, creates a function pointer called php_treat_data that is defaulted to

Re: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string

2002-09-01 Thread Timm Friebe
On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 19:50, Lukas Schroeder wrote: hi, i can crash my php here by using these lines: Nope, works fine: --- thekid@friebes:~ cat | php -q ?php $a = ''; $a .= EOF EOF; ? thekid@friebes:~ php -v 4.2.1

RE: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 20:57 01.09.2002, Brian France wrote: At 8:47 PM +0200 9/1/02, Marcus Börger wrote: At 20:38 01.09.2002, Brian France wrote: At 6:29 PM +0100 9/1/02, James Cox wrote: Where is your patch? The patch basically renames php_treat_data to php_treat_data_default, creates a function pointer called

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 11:49 01.09.2002, James Cox wrote: Phil Copeland redhat pointed me at this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=72752 Seems that there are a number of issues (i'm going to verify patch his fixes right now). The other he mentions is mbstring seems to cause problems. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possible leak in zend_llist ?

2002-09-01 Thread Andi Gutmans
Hey, I think you're right. Someone changed this code a while ago and might have introduced this problem (or it was like this before). I commited a fix and hope it doesn't break anything :) If anyone uses llist's please make sure it's OK. Andi At 07:30 AM 8/27/2002 -0400, l0t3k wrote: hi, im

Re: [PHP-DEV] ISAPI Crash Debugging Notes

2002-09-01 Thread Andi Gutmans
Any chance you can setup and Engine 2 build and see if this problem persists? Andi At 06:42 AM 8/27/2002 -0700, Michael Sisolak wrote: --- Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:53 27/08/2002, Michael Sisolak wrote: i've been doing some debugging of the crashes when running php

[PHP-DEV] Re: Antispam system

2002-09-01 Thread CHAILLAN Nicolas
It seems that the DNS is down, thats not only the hoster. I'm sure that it doesn't exist anymore. -- Merci de nous avoir choisi. - Thanks you for your choice. Nicos - CHAILLAN Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GroupAKT.com - Hébergement Group. www.WorldAKT.com - Hébergement de

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Wez Furlong
On 01/09/02, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other he mentions is mbstring seems to cause problems. I have experienced this too. Umm, dont enable the transparent encoding support then. I don't, and I've had no problems. But mbstring really isn't a core module, and very few people will

[PHP-DEV] Re: mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
James Cox wrote: Phil Copeland redhat pointed me at this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=72752 Check with latest CVS before posting. I fixed this bug weeks ago. -- Yasuo Ohgaki -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string

2002-09-01 Thread Jani Taskinen
Crashes with latest CVS HEAD here too: 0x828b505 in _zval_dtor (zvalue=0xbfffd540, __zend_filename=0x8376000 /usr/src/web/php/php4/Zend/zend_operators.c, __zend_lineno=1057) at /usr/src/web/php/php4/Zend/zend_variables.c:43 43

[PHP-DEV] Re: mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
James Cox wrote: Phil Copeland redhat pointed me at this bug: But mbstring really isn't a core module, and very few people will require kr/zh/ru style encoding. I vote to remove mbstring as a default module. -1 of course. Are you out of mind? Tell other languages developers support

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread derick
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: James Cox wrote: Phil Copeland @ redhat pointed me at this bug: But mbstring really isn't a core module, and very few people will require kr/zh/ru style encoding. I vote to remove mbstring as a default module. -1 of course. Are you out of

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Sterling Hughes
I vote to remove mbstring as a default module. I guess you have never tried to create a truely globalized/localized application then? I'm -1 on removing it, because PHP needs a consistent charset encoding API that is portable across platforms. iconv and recode are no good

Re: [PHP-DEV] segfault on adding empty heredoc to string

2002-09-01 Thread Zeev Suraski
Mark them as critical and they'll get some attention :) Is this bug new to the latest CVS or does it occur with 4.2? At 01:10 02/09/2002, Jani Taskinen wrote: Crashes with latest CVS HEAD here too: 0x828b505 in _zval_dtor (zvalue=0xbfffd540, __zend_filename=0x8376000

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Brian France wrote: I know there are things the exif needs from mbstring and there is no way to have exif link against mbstring or require it. But couldn't exif check to see if mbstring is loaded (or built in) and if not print a warning that some of its functionality may not work

[PHP-DEV] HAVE_GD_STRINGFTEX

2002-09-01 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
Hi, The following in ext/gd/gd.c confuses me. line 332, in function PHP_MINFO_FUNCTIONS: #ifdef ENABLE_GD_TTF php_info_print_table_row(2, FreeType Support, enabled); #if HAVE_LIBFREETYPE php_info_print_table_row(2, FreeType Linkage, with freetype); #elif HAVE_LIBTTF

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS php.ini-distphp.ini-recommended /main main.c output.c php_globals.h php_output.h

2002-09-01 Thread Sterling Hughes
Marcus Börger wrote: AND please: we had an agreement that discussion has to take place on this mailinglist and not at efnet Well, it was also agreed upon to discuss the addition of new .ini entries or enabling of new extensions by default, no? Whether or not you like, a good

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 01:24 02.09.2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Brian France wrote: I know there are things the exif needs from mbstring and there is no way to have exif link against mbstring or require it. But couldn't exif check to see if mbstring is loaded (or built in) and if not print a warning that some of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 / NEWS

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Marcus Börger wrote: AND please: we had an agreement that discussion has to take place on this mailinglist and not at efnet Well, it was also agreed upon to discuss the addition of new .ini entries or enabling of new extensions by default, no? Whether

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Marcus Börger
At 01:24 02.09.2002, you wrote: Brian France wrote: I know there are things the exif needs from mbstring and there is no way to have exif link against mbstring or require it. But couldn't exif check to see if mbstring is loaded (or built in) and if not print a warning that some of its

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in ob_*() callback

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
This is known issue for a long time. Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Marcus Börger wrote: The problem here again is that in ob handlers no ob_xxx() function can be called. *SNIP* It'd be okay IMHO to prohibit ob_*() calls inside a handler. There are functions like this. i.e. array_filter,

Re: [PHP-DEV] ISAPI Crash Debugging Notes

2002-09-01 Thread Michael Sisolak
Andi, I download the alpha2 version of the php-4.3.0-dev-zend2 release. Unfortunatley out-of-the-box I got an Invalid access to memory location. error returned when I try to view I page. I was able to track it down to something with the browscap processing - something in ini_parse() is causing

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Brian France
I know this is ugly, but what about making the extensions handle it themselves? Your example of session_pgsql: In the extension init code: ext_enabled = 1; if ( dlsym( NULL, psql_module_entry ) == NULL dlsym( NULL, _psql_module_entry ) == NULL ) { // print some warning about

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Brian France
At 9:25 AM +0900 9/2/02, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: As all of us know, PHP crashes easily when module is loaded improperly. Has anybody tracked down why this is? This could have been the problem, but is fixed now: http://bugs.php.net/?id=17643 (I think this link is right, bugs is down right now)

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
We should have generic code for this. IMHO. -- Yasuo Ohgaki Brian France wrote: I know this is ugly, but what about making the extensions handle it themselves? Your example of session_pgsql: In the extension init code: ext_enabled = 1; if ( dlsym( NULL, psql_module_entry ) ==

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Forgot to mention this. This will not solve module loading order issues. Not only checks if modules needed in there, but also we should be able to load module in order. To achive this, we need to change module loading code which is written in the engine. -- Yasuo Ohgaki Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
James Cox wrote: mbstring isn't a gold module which should be enabled by default. If we should reduce number of modules built by default, 1st module should be MySQL. Removing MySQL does not cause any technical problems at all. That is, it's still -- as i see it -- just a bit more than

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Marcus Börger wrote: At 01:24 02.09.2002, you wrote: Brian France wrote: I know there are things the exif needs from mbstring and there is no way to have exif link against mbstring or require it. But couldn't exif check to see if mbstring is loaded (or built in) and if not print a

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Masaki Fujimoto
Hi, let me vote not to remove mbstring (as a default one). yes, I can understand the thought that singlebyte users seem mbstirng module is somehow 'extra' one. but please understand that this module is indispensable for multibyte users (at least), and AFAIK there are growing numbers of

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Jim Winstead
Yasuo Ohgaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcus B?rger wrote: We already had some discussion on some IF statements in ini files already. I guess we might call to another mail thread here and hope we find a volunteer. I will not invent any work here since that would be totally useless. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] ISAPI Crash Debugging Notes

2002-09-01 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 05:11 PM 9/1/2002 -0700, Michael Sisolak wrote: Andi, I download the alpha2 version of the php-4.3.0-dev-zend2 release. Unfortunatley out-of-the-box I got an Invalid access to memory location. error returned when I try to view I page. I was able to track it down to something with the

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread Shane Caraveo
Jim Winstead wrote: Yasuo Ohgaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcus B?rger wrote: We already had some discussion on some IF statements in ini files already. I guess we might call to another mail thread here and hope we find a volunteer. I will not invent any work here since that would be totally

[PHP-DEV] ZE2: print_r()/var_dump() and private/protected

2002-09-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
[I post this to php-dev since my mail to engine2 didn't make it.] [Is engine2 down?] It'd ease debugging of applications if print_r() and var_dump() would show the proper name of private and protected members: ?php class Test { private $test; function

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread derick
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Shane Caraveo wrote: Jim Winstead wrote: it's too bad we don't have an implementation of a complete programming language laying around. jim Yeah, sure would be usefull, then we could just get rid of ini, and use the language... Too much interesting things to

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread derick
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: James Cox wrote: mbstring isn't a gold module which should be enabled by default. If we should reduce number of modules built by default, 1st module should be MySQL. Removing MySQL does not cause any technical problems at all. Yeah, this is the

Re: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread derick
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Masaki Fujimoto wrote: Hi, let me vote not to remove mbstring (as a default one). I'd vote for setting it off by default _for now_, and enable it after 4.3. has branched, so we have a kick ass i18n solution in PHP5 replacing all code it duplicates. yes, I can

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread derick
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, not really. It was noted by more than one person that it breaks some simple things in PHP, affecting the bahavior of scripts that are already out there. Until it is totally stable (which you yourself it is not

RE: [PHP-DEV] mbstring

2002-09-01 Thread James Cox
So I want to 'disable' it by default. If you want encoding, just enable it. But you're right, i've never needed to create a truely globalized/localized app. (and from general principles, if you feel you need to localize any more than your ui/strings.) That's not what I read, perhaps