Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

2009/10/16 Dotan Cohen : > How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone > over  the phone? > > ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; > > Thanks! > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > > -- > PHP General Mailing

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

2009/10/16 Dotan Cohen : It's called "vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency". I'm certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that! >>> >>> I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away >>> from the net? We must be from different plan

RE: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

:12 AM To: Kim Madsen Cc: php-general. Subject: Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone? > There is... It's called a Fax ;-) > Again, I am interested in knowing the proper terminology for PHP constructs and code. We have a name for a small sweer green fruit from the vine, an

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> There is... It's called a Fax ;-) > Again, I am interested in knowing the proper terminology for PHP constructs and code. We have a name for a small sweer green fruit from the vine, and we have a name for the alcoholic beverage that is derived from it. Knowing these names helps one communicate v

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Dotan Cohen wrote on 2009-10-23 22:40: But I think for the OP's purposes, he could simply DEFINE any word he wanted at the beginning of the conversation: "Listen up duder. When I say 'de-ref' you make hyphen and a greater-than sign. Capiche?". He could just as easily say, "Listen up duder. When I

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> But I think for the OP's purposes, he could simply DEFINE any word he wanted > at the beginning of the conversation: "Listen up duder. When I say 'de-ref' > you make hyphen and a greater-than sign. Capiche?". He could just as easily > say, "Listen up duder. When I say 'arrow-thingy' you make hyph

RE: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> -Original Message- > From: tedd [mailto:tedd.sperl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:38 AM > To: Dotan Cohen; Daevid Vincent > Cc: php-general. > Subject: Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone? > > At 9:42 AM +0200 10/

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

At 9:42 AM +0200 10/21/09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Open paren. Dollar-sign "item" de-ref getServiceID method. Question mark. Dollar-sign "item" de-ref getServiceID method again. Colon. Dollar-sign "item" de-ref getID method. Close up matching parenthesis. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refere

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> Open paren. Dollar-sign "item" de-ref getServiceID method. Question mark. > Dollar-sign "item" de-ref getServiceID method again. Colon. > Dollar-sign "item" de-ref getID method. Close up matching parenthesis. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_%28computer_science%29 > Thanks. The word Re

RE: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> -Original Message- > From: Dotan Cohen [mailto:dotanco...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:46 AM > To: php-general. > Subject: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone? > > How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to som

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> As for following a convention, just >> get the PHP terminology right, > > That is what I was hoping to learn! > http://www.php.net/manual/en/langref.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.ph

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> As for following a convention, just > get the PHP terminology right, That is what I was hoping to learn! > or at least agree on your on > bastardized terminology. > Because this may cause problems in the future. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- PHP General

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jim Lucas wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone >> over  the phone? >> >> ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; >> >> Thanks! >> > > FATAL ERROR: Non matching parenthesis. >

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

At 4:15 AM +0200 10/17/09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > This is a lot of posts to say either read it off character by character If there is a jargon for operators such as -> I'd like to know them. Dotan Cohen As I said previously, it's called an "operator". Of course you can call it whatever yo

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> This is a lot of posts to say either read it off character by > character If there is a jargon for operators such as -> I'd like to know them. > or just email the damn line. > Not possible for whatever reason, otherwise I wouldn't be bothering the list! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.co

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

tedd wrote: At 8:31 PM +0200 10/16/09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not then the process is more cumbersome since I can't say things like variable item calling camel-case method getServiceId without parameters. Yes, I should have

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Dotan Cohen wrote: It's called "vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency". I'm certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that! I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away from the net? We must be from different planets... How to do you vac

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

At 8:31 PM +0200 10/16/09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not then the process is more cumbersome since I can't say things like variable item calling camel-case method getServiceId without parameters. Yes, I should have mentioned that

RE: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

At 12:59 PM -0400 10/16/09, Bob McConnell wrote: From: tedd At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: >>Open-bracket, No, that's not an open bracket -- that's an open parenthesis or "paren" for short. An open bracket is [ An open curly brace is { That depends on which edit

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

This is a lot of posts to say either read it off character by character or just email the damn line. On 10/16/09, Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> Yes, the other end of the phone is an experienced PHP developer. >>> >> >> IMO, if you have to explain this code over the phone or any medium: >> >> ($item->get

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

>> Yes, the other end of the phone is an experienced PHP developer. >> > > IMO, if you have to explain this code over the phone or any medium: > > ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; > > The other person you're talking to is definitely not "experienced".  ;) > I do

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

- Original Message > From: Dotan Cohen > To: Bipin Upadhyay > Cc: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk; php-general. > Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 11:29:09 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone? > > > There are, what you'd call, technical

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

>>> It's called "vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency". I'm >>> certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that! >> >> I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away >> from the net? We must be from different planets... > > How to do you vacat

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

O. Lavell wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: It's called "vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency". I'm certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that! I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away from the net? We must be from different planets.

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away > from the net? We must be from different planets... > Very likely, as us Saturnians inhabit the moons, not the planet. Only rocky planet-dwellers talk like that! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Dotan Cohen wrote: > It's called "vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency". I'm > certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that! I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away from the net? We must be from different planets... -- PHP Gen

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> If they can reach you by phone you are not on vacation. You are still > attached to their leash. > And they still throw me bones :) It's worth it! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://w

RE: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

From: Dotan Cohen >> >> I would be interested in finding out how the OP ended up having absolutely >> no option but to pass code to another Homo Sapien verbally?  Unless you >> managed to cripple your system and disconnect your company from the >> internet, surely, it would have been faster (and ea

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> Have you thought about using instant messaging?  How about sending the code > to him via text message?  Putting it on a pastie or on code pad? IRC, sFTP, > SSH, you see, in the 21st century, there exists a plethora of solutions to > circumvent this particular "issue". > > I would be interested in

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not then > the process is more cumbersome since I can't say things like variable item > calling camel-case method getServiceId without parameters. > Yes, I should have mentioned that the other party is an experienced PHP developer

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> Ok, but really, I would say something along these lines: > > > Open Conditional statement > > Test Condition >        Using object variable "item" call object member method "get service id" > > if condition results are true issue following command >        Using object variable "item" call object

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> There are, what you'd call, technical jargon for them. > However, it'd pretty obviously depend on the extent of knowledge of the > person on other side of phone line. If she understands PHP objects, > difference between OOP in PHP4 & PHP5, and ternary operator, things would be > fairly simple. >

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> First ask him/her for an email address, and then while you are over the > phone send the text by email. > This way the other can *instantaneously* read and both of you can talk about > the code. > That is how it is usually done. But we have found ourselves twice in the position where one had to

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Robert Cummings wrote: Bob McConnell wrote: From: tedd At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone over the phone? ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Bob McConnell wrote: From: tedd At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone over the phone? ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(;

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Bob McConnell wrote: > From: Ashley Sheridan >> On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 18:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> > Wow! Here goes: >>> > >>> > Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no > all one word but with a capital S and I. Open and close brack

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 12:47 -0400, tedd wrote: At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone over the phone? ($item->getServiceId() ? $item

RE: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

From: tedd > At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: >>On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >>> How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone >>> over the phone? >>> >>> ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; >>> >

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 12:47 -0400, tedd wrote: > At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > >On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > >> How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone > >> over the phone? > >> > >> ($item->getServiceId() ? $item-

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

So it really involves mentioning each character. I was hoping that there would be a shared language for constructs such as -> and the like. I like pointy-thingie, but it's called an "operator". Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- P

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Dotan Cohen wrote: How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone over the phone? ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not then the process is more cumbersome since I can't sa

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone over the phone? ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http:

RE: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

From: Ashley Sheridan > On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 18:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> > Wow! Here goes: >> > >> > Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no all one word but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets, question mark, dollar item again, then a hyphen and greater

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

Dotan Cohen wrote: > How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone > over the phone? > > ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; > > Thanks! > FATAL ERROR: Non matching parenthesis. Ok, but really, I would say something along these lines: Op

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

On 10/16/2009 9:31 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Wow! Here goes: Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no all one word but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets, question mark, dollar item again, then a hyphen and greater-than, that get service id and brackets bit a

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

First ask him/her for an email address, and then while you are over the phone send the text by email. This way the other can *instantaneously* read and both of you can talk about the code. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 18:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wro

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 18:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Wow! Here goes: > > > > Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no all one > > word but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets, question mark, > > dollar item again, then a hyphen and greater-than, that get

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> open parenthesis > $item getServiceId > question symbol > $item getServiceId > colon > $item getId > close parenthesis > > How would you mention the -> constructs? Certainly they are not assumed? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- PHP General Mailing List (htt

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

> Wow! Here goes: > > Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no all one word > but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets, question mark, dollar > item again, then a hyphen and greater-than, that get service id and brackets > bit again, exactly the same as last ti

Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone > over the phone? > > ($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId(; > > Thanks! > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish