[PHP] zend framework getIdentity

2013-07-17 Thread Dan Joseph
Hey Folks, Getting a weird error... Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Session_Exception' with message 'Zend_Session::start() - /product/Messenger-dev/Messenger/library/Zend/Session.php(Line:480): Error #2 Class __PHP_Incomplete_Class has no unserializer Array' in

[PHP] Zend Framework Tutorial

2012-01-30 Thread Yuri Yarlei
Hi people, I wanna share the tutorial about Zend Framework there I'm doing http://www.yuriyarlei.net/en/zend-framework-how-to-develop-introduction Att, Yuri Yarlei. Java - OCJP 6 ZCE - Zend Certified Engineer for php 5.3 www.yuriyarlei.net/en PHP, JAVA, CSS, ORACLE 10g, PostgreSQL;

Re: [PHP] Zend Amf and Drupal?

2011-10-30 Thread Lars Nielsen
Silence ? I havn't got any responses from drupal.org, and i think its very quiet here too? Should I start to analyze the code to understand the inner workings? Can anyone give some advise on where to get more information? Or... is there another proven way to communicate between Flash and

[PHP] Zend Amf and Drupal?

2011-10-29 Thread Lars Nielsen
Hey List, I am making a webservice in Drupal with AMF Zend to provide some methods to a Flash app. I have now managed to use standard Drupal services (node,user and files) and I have made my own method to create users. But! ... When I try to pass on arguments from Flash to Drupal it fails. It

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-12 Thread Dan Joseph
Howdy, Mid, Net, thanks for the tips! I actually didn't have the proper .htaccess settings that ZF wanted, and I needed to add a router :) Thank you both! -Dan On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Midhun Girish midhungir...@gmail.comwrote: You can also try routing in zend..

[PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-11 Thread Dan Joseph
Hi Everyone, Zend Framework getParam question I'm trying to get a value from the url... I know how to grab: http;//www.website.com/index/user/1 that's the index controller, $this-_getParam('user'); (value = 1).. What I'd like to be able to grab is just off one thing from the url...

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-11 Thread NetEmp
Hi Dan One method for this is to use URL Rewriting (which can be implemented on Apache using htaccess). Through URL Rewriting you can first make the following URL: http://www.website.com/article-clean-url http://www.website.com/article-clean-urlto internally behave as the following:

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-11 Thread Midhun Girish
You can also try routing in zend.. http://codeutopia.net/blog/2007/11/16/routing-and-complex-urls-in-zend-framework/ Midhun Girish On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, NetEmp net.ser...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan One method for this is to use URL Rewriting (which can be implemented on Apache

RE: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-24 Thread Tommy Pham
From the search results, you'd see several links http://forums.zend.com. I'd say that's the best place to ask ;) From: Adi Mutu [mailto:adi_mut...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:07 PM To: Tommy Pham Cc: php-general@lists.php.net; Daniel Brown Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend memory

RE: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-24 Thread Adi Mutu
I have asked also there..but no answerBut honestly i don't understand why you have reccomended me that forum..because i thougt these mailing lists are about php developing... Thanks,A.

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-24 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 14:17, Adi Mutu adi_mut...@yahoo.com wrote: I have asked also there..but no answerBut honestly i don't understand why you have reccomended me that forum..because i thougt these mailing lists are about php developing... Because this is about

[PHP] Zend Memory Manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
Hello, This is my first mail here, i hope it's ok. Can somebody give me any hint to some docs about how the Zend mm works? I can't find any references on the net. I'm not interested in only emalloc, efree etc. but at an even lower level i mean about functions like _zend_mm_alloc_int,

[PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
Hello, This is my first mail here, i hope it's ok. Can somebody give me any hint to some docs about how the Zend mm works? I can't find any references on the net. I'm not interested in only emalloc, efree etc. but at an even lower level i mean about functions like _zend_mm_alloc_int,

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 09:10, Adi Mutu adi_mut...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, This is my first mail here, i hope it's ok. Can somebody give me any hint to some docs about how the Zend mm works? I can't find any references on the net. I'm not interested in only emalloc, efree etc. but at

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
I have looked at the sources, but it's still not very clear to me Where should I ask this question than.? Sorry for the inconveniences! Thanks,

RE: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Tommy Pham
-Original Message- From: Adi Mutu [mailto:adi_mut...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:14 PM To: Daniel Brown Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager I have looked at the sources, but it's still not very clear to me Where should I

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
Of course I have tried, but nothing ... The results or only aboyt emalloc/pemalloc familly. Nothing lower level about how these 2 functions are implemented or about the mm_heap struct of mm_block.

Re: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-13 Thread Richard Quadling
On 13 October 2010 05:25, Thijs Lensselink d...@lenss.nl wrote:  On 10/13/2010 12:19 AM, Daevid Vincent wrote: http://80vul.com/Zend%20studio/Zend%20studio%20location%20Cross.htm Interesting. A co-worker and I were JUST noticing how our PHPDoc comments were being parsed pretty much verbatim

RE: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-13 Thread Daevid Vincent
-Original Message- From: Thijs Lensselink [mailto:d...@lenss.nl] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability On 10/13/2010 12:19 AM, Daevid Vincent wrote: http

[PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-12 Thread Daevid Vincent
http://80vul.com/Zend%20studio/Zend%20studio%20location%20Cross.htm Interesting. A co-worker and I were JUST noticing how our PHPDoc comments were being parsed pretty much verbatim including b tags and links and stuff and thought, wow, that's stupid, that's just a XSS or injection waiting to

Re: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-12 Thread Thijs Lensselink
On 10/13/2010 12:19 AM, Daevid Vincent wrote: http://80vul.com/Zend%20studio/Zend%20studio%20location%20Cross.htm Interesting. A co-worker and I were JUST noticing how our PHPDoc comments were being parsed pretty much verbatim includingb tags and links and stuff and thought, wow, that's

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Quadling
On 10 September 2010 02:33, chris h chris...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm starting a new project and I'm thinking about building it on Zend framework and possibly Zend server.  I've only used the framework slightly and I've never really used Zend server.  That being said I hear that the

RE: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread Daevid Vincent
http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.basic.php -Original Message- From: David Harkness [mailto:davi...@highgearmedia.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:59 AM To: rquadl...@googlemail.com Cc: chris h; PHP-General Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend framework We use part of Zend

RE: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread Daevid Vincent
Sorry wrong thread. Damnit. I meant that link for the guy that didn't know what the - was for... -Original Message- From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:dae...@daevid.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'David Harkness' Cc: 'PHP-General' Subject: RE: [PHP] Zend framework

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread chris h
that didn't know what the - was for... -Original Message- From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:dae...@daevid.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'David Harkness' Cc: 'PHP-General' Subject: RE: [PHP] Zend framework http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.basic.php

[PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-09 Thread chris h
Hello all, I'm starting a new project and I'm thinking about building it on Zend framework and possibly Zend server. I've only used the framework slightly and I've never really used Zend server. That being said I hear that the framework is pretty decent to work with. I want something that is

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-09 Thread Joshua Kehn
Chris- While I find Zend to be more of a wonderful set of libraries then a framework, it does do both and is a good introduction. I do most of my framework coding on CodeIgniter though. Regards, -JOsh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com

[PHP] Zend Framework Ebook

2010-05-14 Thread Brandon Rampersad
Hello, does anyone have any zend framework 1.10 ebook recomendations. -- A Brandon_R Production

[PHP] Zend DB Table - WHERE as OR?

2010-04-09 Thread Dan Joseph
Hi Everyone, I'm trying to figure out if something is even an option with the Zend Framework. We use the DB Table stuff. I don't see it in the manual, so I figured I'd ask you all... I have: $select = $table-select()-where( home_team_id = ?, $home_team_id )

Re: [PHP] Zend DB Table - WHERE as OR?

2010-04-09 Thread Dan Joseph
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Ballard aball...@gmail.com wrote: Try this: ?php $select = $table-select()-where( home_team_id = ?, $home_team_id ) -orWhere( away_team_id = ?, $away_team_id ); Perfect...thank you! -- -Dan Joseph

Re: [PHP] Zend DB Table - WHERE as OR?

2010-04-09 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Dan Joseph dmjos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm trying to figure out if something is even an option with the Zend Framework.  We use the DB Table stuff.  I don't see it in the manual, so I figured I'd ask you all... I have: $select =

[PHP] Zend debugger doesn't work

2010-01-18 Thread Ali Asghar Toraby Parizy
Hi I have installed php 5.3.1 (with thread safety = on) recently And I tried to install zend debugger yesterday. I downloaded zend debugger extension from http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/server-debugger/ But I didn't find dll module for 5.3.x release. So I tried dll file in 5_2_x_comp folder. When I

Re: [PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Brian Dunning schreef: I should mention that I did try the ionCube online encoder, which I think is a great idea... but its runtimes failed to load on both of my test systems, requiring editing of php.ini. That's over the top for my users. I need something that's rock-solid and that will never

[PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-16 Thread Brian Dunning
Is there a cheaper alternative to Guard/Optimizer? I have a single small PHP file that is part of a larger solution I sell, and I want it to be protected - and it has to be a runtime so it will run on anyone's standard PHP server. Zend's $600 was a little bit of sticker shock. Any

Re: [PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-16 Thread Brian Dunning
I should mention that I did try the ionCube online encoder, which I think is a great idea... but its runtimes failed to load on both of my test systems, requiring editing of php.ini. That's over the top for my users. I need something that's rock-solid and that will never require my users

Re: [PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-16 Thread Thodoris
I should mention that I did try the ionCube online encoder, which I think is a great idea... but its runtimes failed to load on both of my test systems, requiring editing of php.ini. That's over the top for my users. I need something that's rock-solid and that will never require my users to

[PHP] Zend Framework and IIS

2009-01-30 Thread Andrew Ballard
Is anyone running Zend Framework under IIS? If so, how do you have it configured? (ISAPI versus FastCGI, etc.) Do you use any code optimizers? The reason I ask is because we set it up on a couple servers where I work and it is dreadfully slow. Just to render a basic page with no data connection

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 23:54 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:20:16AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: Incidentally, I would differ from the reviewer in the link above only in this respect: He maintains that

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 00:06 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:17:51AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: snip The pages are significantly

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Ewen Cumming
I think Daevid has some valid points although I think frameworks still have a lot of value, I've recently learned to use the CakePHP framework and have been happy with the development time improvements. But more then that I've found it has made my applications more extensible and flexible. As to

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:47 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14

RE: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Daevid Vincent
, then use it as a reference to see how I do things and re-write your own ;-) d -Original Message- From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:01 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: Incidentally, I would differ from the reviewer in the link above only in this respect: He maintains that every line of code adds time. While this is true, I believe it's the number of files which have to be opened which drags down

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:57 +0300, Usamah M. Ali wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and they are pretty

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Edgar da Silva (Fly2k)
The question is interesting. I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until 5.3 or 6? I really don't know how CI thinks about evolution, but I'm very curious why don't use the new features that provide good evolution?

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:03 -0200, Edgar da Silva (Fly2k) wrote: The question is interesting. I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until 5.3 or 6? I think once PHP6 comes out we'll find that some PHP4

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Edgar da Silva (Fly2k)
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:03 -0200, Edgar da Silva (Fly2k) wrote: The question is interesting. I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Usamah M. Ali usamah1...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and they

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:57:42AM +0300, Usamah M. Ali wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and they are

RE: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
-Original Message- From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:18 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't. ---8--- I agree and disagree. I agree there's waaay too much herd

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Phpster
On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Boyd, Todd M. tmbo...@ccis.edu wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:18 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't. ---8

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Sancar Saran
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 23:39:02 Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it was so cumbersome and

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 17:34 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: On Wednesday 14 January 2009 23:39:02 Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I was forced to

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Sancar Saran
On Thursday 15 January 2009 17:45:35 Robert Cummings wrote: Hell, yes, signed to from start to end. After RoR, PHP guys (including Zend) goes nuts. Every one eat his brains to develop RoR like Framework. What are you smoking? I like my framework the way it is. I'm sure others

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 19:37 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: On Thursday 15 January 2009 17:45:35 Robert Cummings wrote: Hell, yes, signed to from start to end. After RoR, PHP guys (including Zend) goes nuts. Every one eat his brains to develop RoR like Framework. What are you

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Sam Stelfox
Daevid Vincent wrote: The pages are significantly slower than straight PHP by orders of magnitude: http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=315 http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001198.html I know this blog isn't specifically about PHP but he makes a good general point that can be applied to this

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Daevid Vincent
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 13:52 -0500, Sam Stelfox wrote: Daevid Vincent wrote: The pages are significantly slower than straight PHP by orders of magnitude: http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=315 http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001198.html I know this blog isn't specifically

Re: Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread jcorry
I think I'm going to stick with objects generated by POG, PEAR classes where they can save me time and Smarty templates for display. Glad we had this little fireside chat before I started on my next project with an ambition to use some fancy new framework. You guys saved me what sounds

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:20:16AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: Incidentally, I would differ from the reviewer in the link above only in this respect: He maintains that every line of code adds time. While this is true, I believe

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:17:51AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: snip The pages are significantly slower than straight PHP by orders of magnitude:

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Murray
Hi Daevid, Your included db.inc.php file contains what appears to be a very strict injunction against people on this list making use of it. In particular, these lines: #--- # # Confidential - Property of Symcell Corporation # Do

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Kevin Waterson
WRT Frameworks.. before I rant, I should declare myself as an ex-consultant to Zend. I have used most of the more popular frameworks, and in my current employment am using Zend Framework. All of the frameworks I have used, have had some good features, and some poorly implemented ones. This, I

[PHP] Zend Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread jcorry
I've been reading about these great new 'frameworks' for PHP development. The most similar experience I have so far is using PEAR/Smarty in application development. I am becoming very interested in adding one (or more) of these frameworks to my work existence. I'm leaning toward the Zend

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM, jco...@gmail.com wrote: I've been reading about these great new 'frameworks' for PHP development. The most similar experience I have so far is using PEAR/Smarty in application development. I am becoming very interested in adding one (or more) of these

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread John Corry
Well, bummer. I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the applications I build today. For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier framework to use that will streamline the development process from the

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it was so cumbersome and slow to do even the simplest things. The whole MVC thing can be

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Skip Evans
John Corry wrote: For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier framework to use that will streamline the development process from the beginning? I've been using my own I developed from the ground up for the past couple years, but have recently looked at cakePHP and I think it might

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM, John Corry jco...@gmail.com wrote: Well, bummer. I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the applications I build today. For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: http://daevid.com It appears your browser does not support some of the advanced features this site requires. That is pretty enteprisey! ;D -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 13:39 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it was so cumbersome and slow

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 13:39 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it was so cumbersome and slow

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: http://daevid.com It appears your browser does not support some of the advanced features this site requires. That is pretty enteprisey! ;D I got the same

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: http://daevid.com It appears your browser does not support some of the advanced features this site

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:03 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: http://daevid.com It appears your

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: http://daevid.com It

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:30:59PM -0500, John Corry wrote: Well, bummer. I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the applications I build today. For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
If anything this strengthens my point... First of all, that is my PERSONAL site (notice it is my NAME), so it is NOT enterprise or SaaS. Second it uses the www.winlike.net Javascript FRAMEWORK (which I heavily manipulated in PHP to make the menu dynamic, adding a tertiary menu level and

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:59 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:30:59PM -0500, John Corry wrote: Well, bummer. I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the applications I build

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:47 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:47 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14,

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Wed,

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera eric.but...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14,

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
Lol, on your resumé page, the popup says you're not a Java man, but then the actual resumé says you are... :p No. I wrote Java for 3.5 years at WildTangent, a company I founded as employee #2 back in 1998, and left once I felt it was starting to become sketchy and we had grown to over 250

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: Lol, on your resumé page, the popup says you're not a Java man, but then the actual resumé says you are... :p No. I wrote Java for 3.5 years at WildTangent, a company I founded as employee #2 back in 1998, and

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it was so

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these to framework or not to framework debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Phpster
For what it's worth, you are on my good guys list. Coming. From a Dba background I am in the camp of everything is a trade off. Ease of use for speed, functionality for complexity and so on. My two cents: zend has an advantage because you can use the bits and pieces without the need to

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Phpster
Core files are what my plans include too. Bastien Sent from my iPod On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Kyle Terry k...@kyleterry.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:50:25PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: snip OMG, and don't get me started on ORM. What a bloat that is. The amount of query overhead is rediculous. All these stupid objects for even the simplest of 'glue tables'. Straight SQL, optimized for your query and

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Usamah M. Ali
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and they are pretty good), you'll probably do fine with it. It's about the lightest

[PHP] Zend framework

2008-12-24 Thread Al
I've not given it much thought, so far. But, am curious about what you folks think about it. Anyone with experience have a comment? Al.. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2008-12-24 Thread Richard Heyes
2008/12/24 Al n...@ridersite.org: I've not given it much thought, so far. But, am curious about what you folks think about it. Anyone with experience have a comment? On what? The Zend Framework? -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2008-12-24 Thread Al
Richard Heyes wrote: 2008/12/24 Al n...@ridersite.org: I've not given it much thought, so far. But, am curious about what you folks think about it. Anyone with experience have a comment? On what? The Zend Framework? Sorry, I wasn't clear. Anyone with experience using the Zend

[PHP] Zend Platform

2008-09-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
Morning All, Short and sweet; does anybody have any practical experience; thoughts or case studies in regards to implementing the Zend Platform. Many Regards Nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Zend Platform

2008-09-09 Thread Stut
On 9 Sep 2008, at 18:52, Nathan Rixham wrote: Short and sweet; does anybody have any practical experience; thoughts or case studies in regards to implementing the Zend Platform. Yeah, I used it in my previous job a coupla years ago. It looks great, the marketing hype is well executed but as

Re: [PHP] Zend Platform

2008-09-09 Thread Ray Hauge
Stut wrote: On 9 Sep 2008, at 18:52, Nathan Rixham wrote: Short and sweet; does anybody have any practical experience; thoughts or case studies in regards to implementing the Zend Platform. Yeah, I used it in my previous job a coupla years ago. It looks great, the marketing hype is well

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