Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Murph wrote: I'd like to take a look at EditPlus2. Got a link? http://www.editplus.com/ What I'd like an editor to do for me is help out with how the page looks. One I set up a page that looks half-way decent - even if I use stock templates or style sheets - I can always plop the code in later by hand and that's no biggie. It's just that initial setting up of tables and stuff that is kind of tedious and I want to get away from that so I can concentrate on the code. Yours, Murph *sigh* Unfortunately EditPlus is not a WYSIWYG editor. FrontPage is still better for tables and fluff like that. Mind you, the two do work together somewhat well (for an MS product), all things considered... -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Plus if you're just looking for soemthing to get your layout started, you can start in FrontPage and just never open PHP files in it once you start adding PHP ;) --Toby - Original Message - From: "Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Murph" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "James McLaughlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Murph wrote: I'd like to take a look at EditPlus2. Got a link? http://www.editplus.com/ What I'd like an editor to do for me is help out with how the page looks. One I set up a page that looks half-way decent - even if I use stock templates or style sheets - I can always plop the code in later by hand and that's no biggie. It's just that initial setting up of tables and stuff that is kind of tedious and I want to get away from that so I can concentrate on the code. Yours, Murph *sigh* Unfortunately EditPlus is not a WYSIWYG editor. FrontPage is still better for tables and fluff like that. Mind you, the two do work together somewhat well (for an MS product), all things considered... -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
ROFLMAO =D - Kath - Original Message - From: "Chris Aitken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. At 09:06 PM 16/01/2001, Kath wrote: Hey, To get Frontpage to recognize PHP files (at least to let you edit them), do the following (I'm assuming FP2000): 1 - Open FP 2 - Click on Tools 3 - Click on Options 4 - Click on the Configure Editors tab 5 - Hit Add 6 - Make file type "php" 7 - Make editor name "FrontPage" 8 - Make command "frontpg.exe" 9 - Hit ok 10 - It should work :D There is a much easier and simpler way to handle Frontpage and PHP than this .. 1 - Open Control Panel 2 - Open Add/Remove Programs 3 - Click on Frontpage 2000 4 - Click on Uninstall 5 - Uninstall 6 - Click on Start 7 - Click on Run 8 - Type 'Notepad' 9 - Press Enter 10 - It DOES work :) A much more realistic windows solution in half the time (and about a thousandth of the HD space :) You can add in a Step 11 if needed which is to Slap yourself over the wrist 5 times for wanting to use Frontpage in the first place. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
But, you know, the look and feel of a site is pretty important and an HTML editor goes a long way toward managing that part. If you can find an editor that helps you set up some style sheets that carry across all your pages without you having to type in all the code for every page, you're golden. If you can get some reports that check to be sure that you don't have any dead-ends, man, you're saving you and your users from some serious frustration. And, better yet, if you can see a bird's-eye view of your site with some easy-to-check tree charts, you can check on the logical layout of the site. Eek. You shouldn't have to "type in all the code" for each page for your styles anyway. The line link href="css/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" in your head../head will bring the same style rules into every document and give you the advantage of smaller pages. You can get link checkers such as Xenu which work superbly, even building you an HTML site map you can cut 'n' paste into your own site. I can't see the advantages of using an editor over hand code so far. See, all our fancy-schmancy work with databases and power-code is for naught if it's not easily accessible to the visitor and I think we all overlook that to our peril. What was that British fashion site that recently folded because they delayed launching because they wanted to "get it just right?" Then, their site was so bloated and took so long to load that people just surfed away... I think that a good HTML editor will display how long a page will load using various modem speeds and allow me to choose whether I want to spring that kind of burden on my visitors. Well, yes, in the same way Photoshop displays how long an image is supposed to take to load. But, in my experience, most HTML editors write code that is considerably more long-winded than a well-coded page should be - so the only benefit you get is an accurate picture of how much your editor has messed up your code. If you design your pages well and code them properly, you can avoid many of the long download times associated with most websites today. If you run an image-intensive site, optimising your pictures is as (more?) important than having tight code - and an HTML editor doesn't help with this. It was boo.com that went under, incidentally. So, you've used both products and you know what I mean when I say that I can apply a "theme" with FrontPage. Can you do likewise with Dreamweaver? If you set up a site that specializes in fireworks, for instance, will a button that you design once with a pretty exploding shell carry across all your pages without having to insert or "include" it on all your pages? With FrontPage, you just set up one "theme" and all the elements carry across without having to manually include them. That's the kind of drudgery I'd like to get away from so that all I have to do is open up the editor and stick some PHP in there that interacts with MySQL. Without having to insert or include it? You have two options, if you want the same stuff on several pages. 1. Have the code on each page. (ugh - if you want to change it you have to change all of them, and each page is bigger). 2. Have an include file of some sort (.css, .inc, .whatever) and link to it. I don't see (2) as being more drudgery than (1), quite the reverse in fact. Do you think I'm living in La-La Land? Not really - there's a time and a place for editors (marketing people who want to "just design a quick page for the Intranet"), but for anything serious, I'd like to quote your first sentence again. There's no question that hand-coding is the way to go. I'm with you 110% on that score! Cheers Jon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
I use ultraedit 8.0 this editor rocks :) on a side note as someone else posted, 'everyone to their own' it dont matter what editor you love as long as the work gets done. Chris Lee Mediawaveonline.com ""Murph"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 003201c08027$e886c480$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:003201c08027$e886c480$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi. FrontPage sucks for working with PHP. I've been doing all my coding by hand and that's fine as far as it goes but I just got a promotion at work where everyone uses FrontPage so I bought it to see how I can use it to show these old dogs some new tricks. Nice program. Allows for workgroups where different people can work on different parts of a project. That'll come in handy. It also has some nice tree charts to show you where the project is branching out and generates some useful reports like where the dead links are. What I *really* liked about it was the ability to apply a common theme across all my pages. Man, that was pretty cool. Plus, let's face it, using an HTML editor really takes some of the drudgery out of designing your pages. The problem is, if the web page that is designed with FrontPage doesn't end with a regularly accepted filename extension like *.htm, FrontPage doesn't seem to really know how to handle it and I need it to handle pages that end with *.php. What are my options? I don't think I missed anything with FrontPage after scouring the manual and online and inline help pages. Anyone out there using an HTML editor that they'd like to recommend? Why? Are there any FAQs I should be reading for this answer? Maybe I should just use a style sheet for a common look and for the rest, suck it up and take it like a man? Yours, Murph www.murphatnight.com __ Brian Murphy - 193A Lowell St., Apt. 24 - Methuen, MA 01844 - (978) 725-6654 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
In article 008301c0803a$ff59af20$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Murph") wrote:
But, you know, the look and feel of a site is pretty important and an
HTML editor goes a long way toward managing that part. If you can
find an editor that helps you set up some style sheets that carry
across all your pages without you having to type in all the code for
every page, you're golden.
Why would you type in style sheet code on every page if you do it by
hand? Doesn't that defeat half the purpose of style sheets?
Jerry
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RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Have any of you tried using EditPlus? (www.editplus.com) This is a great little editor for HTML, JavaScript, and PHP. You can download extra modules for color syntax hilighting of practically any language you can think of including many different databases. It has some nice useful HTML features and good handling of multiple documents... and most importantly, you don't have to worry about it mangling your code. It is helpful while also staying out of your way. The more I use it, the more I like it. It is simple, elegant, and it gives me all the control that I want. Its inexpensive and comes with a thirty day trial. Check it out. BTW, I do not work for EditPlus or have any association with them other than that of a satisfied customer. Matthew Aznoe -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Homesite from Allaire - although $99US is what I have been using for years. I really like it for editing PHP, HTML, and JavaScript. Dan ""Murph"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 003201c08027$e886c480$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:003201c08027$e886c480$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi. FrontPage sucks for working with PHP. I've been doing all my coding by hand and that's fine as far as it goes but I just got a promotion at work where everyone uses FrontPage so I bought it to see how I can use it to show these old dogs some new tricks. Nice program. Allows for workgroups where different people can work on different parts of a project. That'll come in handy. It also has some nice tree charts to show you where the project is branching out and generates some useful reports like where the dead links are. What I *really* liked about it was the ability to apply a common theme across all my pages. Man, that was pretty cool. Plus, let's face it, using an HTML editor really takes some of the drudgery out of designing your pages. The problem is, if the web page that is designed with FrontPage doesn't end with a regularly accepted filename extension like *.htm, FrontPage doesn't seem to really know how to handle it and I need it to handle pages that end with *.php. What are my options? I don't think I missed anything with FrontPage after scouring the manual and online and inline help pages. Anyone out there using an HTML editor that they'd like to recommend? Why? Are there any FAQs I should be reading for this answer? Maybe I should just use a style sheet for a common look and for the rest, suck it up and take it like a man? Yours, Murph www.murphatnight.com __ Brian Murphy - 193A Lowell St., Apt. 24 - Methuen, MA 01844 - (978) 725-6654 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
It is NOT ported to Linux is it? I couldn't find any information on the website indicating weather it was compiled for *NIX or not. - Scott Have any of you tried using EditPlus? (www.editplus.com) This is a great little editor for HTML, JavaScript, and PHP. You can download extra modules for color syntax hilighting of practically any language you can think of including many different databases. It has some nice useful HTML features and good handling of multiple documents... and most importantly, you don't have to worry about it mangling your code. It is helpful while also staying out of your way. The more I use it, the more I like it. It is simple, elegant, and it gives me all the control that I want. Its inexpensive and comes with a thirty day trial. Check it out. BTW, I do not work for EditPlus or have any association with them other than that of a satisfied customer. Matthew Aznoe -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Nope. EditPlus is Windows-only. --Toby - Original Message - From: "Scott Gerhardt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Php-General-Digest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Chris Aitken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. It is NOT ported to Linux is it? I couldn't find any information on the website indicating weather it was compiled for *NIX or not. - Scott Have any of you tried using EditPlus? (www.editplus.com) This is a great little editor for HTML, JavaScript, and PHP. You can download extra modules for color syntax hilighting of practically any language you can think of including many different databases. It has some nice useful HTML features and good handling of multiple documents... and most importantly, you don't have to worry about it mangling your code. It is helpful while also staying out of your way. The more I use it, the more I like it. It is simple, elegant, and it gives me all the control that I want. Its inexpensive and comes with a thirty day trial. Check it out. BTW, I do not work for EditPlus or have any association with them other than that of a satisfied customer. Matthew Aznoe -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Scott Gerhardt wrote: It is NOT ported to Linux is it? I couldn't find any information on the website indicating weather it was compiled for *NIX or not. Use emacs. Or vi. Or quanta. Or something else. Wagner -- One maniac alone can do what 20 together cannot -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Sadly, no. As far as I know, it is a completely windows product. I am currently developing on a Windows box using Samba to access the files on my UNIX box from windows. Its not necessarily the best way of doing things and it requires two computers, but it seems to get the job done, and since I need to use Windows anyway for my company's standards of MS Office and Outlook, its tolerable. When running exclusively in UNIX, I run Elvis, a graphical vi with syntax hilighting. XEmacs also is not a bad option, but Elvis is much faster. Matthew Aznoe -Original Message- From: Scott Gerhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Php-General-Digest; Chris Aitken Subject: RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. It is NOT ported to Linux is it? I couldn't find any information on the website indicating weather it was compiled for *NIX or not. - Scott Have any of you tried using EditPlus? (www.editplus.com) This is a great little editor for HTML, JavaScript, and PHP. You can download extra modules for color syntax hilighting of practically any language you can think of including many different databases. It has some nice useful HTML features and good handling of multiple documents... and most importantly, you don't have to worry about it mangling your code. It is helpful while also staying out of your way. The more I use it, the more I like it. It is simple, elegant, and it gives me all the control that I want. Its inexpensive and comes with a thirty day trial. Check it out. BTW, I do not work for EditPlus or have any association with them other than that of a satisfied customer. Matthew Aznoe -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
I also find that ultraedit (forgive the goofy name, it's a _great_ app) works really well if I've got to code in a windows world. It's very flexible and fast on just any machine I've ever tried it on, while also doing syntax highlighting and compiling if you want it to. check it out at www.ultraedit.com It's actually the first piece of shareware that I had payed for, it's that good --something like $40 US, it's been a couple of years since I bought a license for it. Hmm, maybe I should go upgrade. jeremy -- Jeremy Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp keyid 0xAECBA355 Phil 1:21 www.ganooz.com Car pour moi, la vie c'est le Christ, et la mort est un gain. -Original Message- From: Matthew Aznoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 17:21 To: Php-General-Digest; Chris Aitken Subject: RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. Have any of you tried using EditPlus? (www.editplus.com) This is a great little editor for HTML, JavaScript, and PHP. You can download extra modules for color syntax hilighting of practically any language you can think of including many different databases. It has some nice useful HTML features and good handling of multiple documents... and most importantly, you don't have to worry about it mangling your code. It is helpful while also staying out of your way. The more I use it, the more I like it. It is simple, elegant, and it gives me all the control that I want. Its inexpensive and comes with a thirty day trial. Check it out. BTW, I do not work for EditPlus or have any association with them other than that of a satisfied customer. Matthew Aznoe -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Coming in on this late and from another platform: I use Bluefish and Gvim under Unix. Of the two, Gvim is probably the most configurable editor out there (macros, syntax highlighting, runs its own scripts, uses a variety of scripting languages) and is available for Windows. It's free (well, it's really charity ware) and Open Source. While Bluefish is a nice non-gui HTML editor, Gvim is what I use for "serious" coding in C, C++, Perl, Python, PHP and so on and on. It has "unlimited" undoos and built in syntax highlighting for languages I've never encountered in the "real world" (and a few I've never heard of). Highly recommended. Incidentally, could'nt you use PHP to manage the "look" at a CSS level? Should this be the job of the editor? -- ** Marx: "Why do Anarchists only drink herbal tea?" Proudhon: "Because all proper tea is theft." ** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
James, I too have used various WYSIWYG html coders, and most of the time, I found my self hampered by application limitations. It is a fair way to study code generated...but that method of learning can be dangerous as well. I also find I have quicker response/fixes to bugs in handcode. Now I exclusively use EditPlus2 - it's worth every dollar I paid for it, and in my opinion, has helped me gain customers - once they watched me script and parse code with it. It is good to see others appreciate the simplicity and power of Edit+. I like it due to the fact it is not limited to HTML and there is alot of user support templates, auto-completion, etc available. Working with HTML, ASP, C, VBScript, Java, PHP, mySQL, and just plain old text files, is a real pleasure with this hand-coding product. No, I don't believe they have a public stock offering. :^) * Gerald E Buckmaster Jr * * Professional Imagery Analyst * *Webmaster, Imagery Analysis Support Site * *Tucson, Arizona * snip Subject: Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. Having used both FrontPage and Dreamweaver in the past I have resorted back to a text editor. Not that either was bad or good. Just found that I had the best control when doing the writing myself. I currently use EditPlus2 for text editing. It has everything I need and cost very little. I use it for PERL, PHP, JavaScript, Java and even mySQL. It allows you to format your own syntax highlighting and templates. /snip -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
If you're still interested, try cooledit for linux/unix http://cooledit.sourceforge.net/ --- Yeah, there are more important things in life than money, but they won't go out with you if you don't have any. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Hey, To get Frontpage to recognize PHP files (at least to let you edit them), do the following (I'm assuming FP2000): 1 - Open FP 2 - Click on Tools 3 - Click on Options 4 - Click on the Configure Editors tab 5 - Hit Add 6 - Make file type "php" 7 - Make editor name "FrontPage" 8 - Make command "frontpg.exe" 9 - Hit ok 10 - It should work :D - Kath - Original Message - From: "Murph" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:50 PM Subject: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. Hi. FrontPage sucks for working with PHP. I've been doing all my coding by hand and that's fine as far as it goes but I just got a promotion at work where everyone uses FrontPage so I bought it to see how I can use it to show these old dogs some new tricks. Nice program. Allows for workgroups where different people can work on different parts of a project. That'll come in handy. It also has some nice tree charts to show you where the project is branching out and generates some useful reports like where the dead links are. What I *really* liked about it was the ability to apply a common theme across all my pages. Man, that was pretty cool. Plus, let's face it, using an HTML editor really takes some of the drudgery out of designing your pages. The problem is, if the web page that is designed with FrontPage doesn't end with a regularly accepted filename extension like *.htm, FrontPage doesn't seem to really know how to handle it and I need it to handle pages that end with *.php. What are my options? I don't think I missed anything with FrontPage after scouring the manual and online and inline help pages. Anyone out there using an HTML editor that they'd like to recommend? Why? Are there any FAQs I should be reading for this answer? Maybe I should just use a style sheet for a common look and for the rest, suck it up and take it like a man? Yours, Murph www.murphatnight.com __ Brian Murphy - 193A Lowell St., Apt. 24 - Methuen, MA 01844 - (978) 725-6654 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. - Dreamweaver 4
Hi, I use Macromedia Dreamweaver 4 - it's the best ever for HTML and others. It recognizes the PHP extension and checks for syntax errors though it doesn't check for errors in the PHP-languages. SED -Original Message- From: Murph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17. janar 2001 01:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. Hi. FrontPage sucks for working with PHP. I've been doing all my coding by hand and that's fine as far as it goes but I just got a promotion at work where everyone uses FrontPage so I bought it to see how I can use it to show these old dogs some new tricks. Nice program. Allows for workgroups where different people can work on different parts of a project. That'll come in handy. It also has some nice tree charts to show you where the project is branching out and generates some useful reports like where the dead links are. What I *really* liked about it was the ability to apply a common theme across all my pages. Man, that was pretty cool. Plus, let's face it, using an HTML editor really takes some of the drudgery out of designing your pages. The problem is, if the web page that is designed with FrontPage doesn't end with a regularly accepted filename extension like *.htm, FrontPage doesn't seem to really know how to handle it and I need it to handle pages that end with *.php. What are my options? I don't think I missed anything with FrontPage after scouring the manual and online and inline help pages. Anyone out there using an HTML editor that they'd like to recommend? Why? Are there any FAQs I should be reading for this answer? Maybe I should just use a style sheet for a common look and for the rest, suck it up and take it like a man? Yours, Murph www.murphatnight.com __ Brian Murphy - 193A Lowell St., Apt. 24 - Methuen, MA 01844 - (978) 725-6654 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
At 09:06 PM 16/01/2001, Kath wrote: Hey, To get Frontpage to recognize PHP files (at least to let you edit them), do the following (I'm assuming FP2000): 1 - Open FP 2 - Click on Tools 3 - Click on Options 4 - Click on the Configure Editors tab 5 - Hit Add 6 - Make file type "php" 7 - Make editor name "FrontPage" 8 - Make command "frontpg.exe" 9 - Hit ok 10 - It should work :D There is a much easier and simpler way to handle Frontpage and PHP than this .. 1 - Open Control Panel 2 - Open Add/Remove Programs 3 - Click on Frontpage 2000 4 - Click on Uninstall 5 - Uninstall 6 - Click on Start 7 - Click on Run 8 - Type 'Notepad' 9 - Press Enter 10 - It DOES work :) A much more realistic windows solution in half the time (and about a thousandth of the HD space :) You can add in a Step 11 if needed which is to Slap yourself over the wrist 5 times for wanting to use Frontpage in the first place. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Heh heh Now were talkin' :o) Todd - Original Message - From: "Chris Aitken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 16, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. At 09:06 PM 16/01/2001, Kath wrote: Hey, To get Frontpage to recognize PHP files (at least to let you edit them), do the following (I'm assuming FP2000): 1 - Open FP 2 - Click on Tools 3 - Click on Options 4 - Click on the Configure Editors tab 5 - Hit Add 6 - Make file type "php" 7 - Make editor name "FrontPage" 8 - Make command "frontpg.exe" 9 - Hit ok 10 - It should work :D There is a much easier and simpler way to handle Frontpage and PHP than this .. 1 - Open Control Panel 2 - Open Add/Remove Programs 3 - Click on Frontpage 2000 4 - Click on Uninstall 5 - Uninstall 6 - Click on Start 7 - Click on Run 8 - Type 'Notepad' 9 - Press Enter 10 - It DOES work :) A much more realistic windows solution in half the time (and about a thousandth of the HD space :) You can add in a Step 11 if needed which is to Slap yourself over the wrist 5 times for wanting to use Frontpage in the first place. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
A much more realistic windows solution in half the time (and about a thousandth of the HD space :) You can add in a Step 11 if needed which is to Slap yourself over the wrist 5 times for wanting to use Frontpage in the first place. Hi, Chris. Really, thanks for the suggestion. I'm with you 100% and approached this product with a TON of trepidation. I knew I was looking at a host service that had to have something called "FrontPage extensions" installed and read the online manual for the server I chose where they said I could easily corrupt these extensions and that there'd be a fee to rebuild them. Yes, I truly love open-source because of the support from folks like you and others and because of the flexibility across a wide variety of platforms. But, let's face it, if you have a new job and the whole corporation is using FrontPage, you can't change their thinking until you've mastered their own art and then shown them some tricks that simply can't be done with what they're using. This is where I am now. I taught myself PHP and MySQL so well that I was able to impress people working in an entirely different field than where I am now. Heck, I'm just a customer service rep, for crying out loud! I'm now poised to make the big bucks like you all! Now, to be smart about this, I have to infiltrate. I have to weasel. I have to beg for some cool software. But before I can gain credibility, I have to use what they're using now and that's FrontPage, believe it or not. So, bottom line? Thanks for bearing with me and thanks to those who help me meld the open-source PHP with products that aren't quite designed to handle it because of their vested interests. THIS is where the value is for groups like this and folks like you and I thank you so very much. Yours, Murph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
Having used both FrontPage and Dreamweaver in the past I have resorted back to a text editor. Not that either was bad or good. Just found that I had the best control when doing the writing myself. I currently use EditPlus2 for text editing. It has everything I need and cost very little. I use it for PERL, PHP, JavaScript, Java and even mySQL. It allows you to format your own syntax highlighting and templates. But no matter what you use, it's my belief that you must know how to code by hand if your going to get anywhere. All the slamming people do around here about one editor (or platform) vs. another is kind-a childish. Would anyone dog Rasmus Lerdorf if he used FrontPage or Larry Wall if he used a windows platform instead of a *nix. I don't think so. This guys got the respect they have not by what they used but what they developed. (Not that I know what they used and personally don't care) So my point, if you made it this far, is use what's best for you and try different things till your satisfied. Someone has already explain how to get FrontPage to work so I'll leave it at that. James
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor.
A sincere "thank you" to James ;) I completely agree. I thought about saying something but I'm so sick of the editor wars I decided not to... --Toby - Original Message - From: "James McLaughlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. Having used both FrontPage and Dreamweaver in the past I have resorted back to a text editor. Not that either was bad or good. Just found that I had the best control when doing the writing myself. I currently use EditPlus2 for text editing. It has everything I need and cost very little. I use it for PERL, PHP, JavaScript, Java and even mySQL. It allows you to format your own syntax highlighting and templates. But no matter what you use, it's my belief that you must know how to code by hand if your going to get anywhere. All the slamming people do around here about one editor (or platform) vs. another is kind-a childish. Would anyone dog Rasmus Lerdorf if he used FrontPage or Larry Wall if he used a windows platform instead of a *nix. I don't think so. This guys got the respect they have not by what they used but what they developed. (Not that I know what they used and personally don't care) So my point, if you made it this far, is use what's best for you and try different things till your satisfied. Someone has already explain how to get FrontPage to work so I'll leave it at that. James -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. - Dreamweaver 4
hi, here you see our FLASHBOOK its just flash4, php and mysql www.artfuntasy.com greetings andre - Original Message - From: "Murph" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] I love/hate FrontPage - need another HTML editor. - Dreamweaver 4 I use Macromedia Dreamweaver 4 - it's the best ever for HTML and others. It recognizes the PHP extension and checks for syntax errors though it doesn't check for errors in the PHP-languages. It seems like there's an awful lot of people jumping on the Macromedia editor bandwagon and after visiting their site, I can see why! Holy smoke! There's an awful lot there to recommend that product. My thanks to Kath for helping me get FrontPage up and running for my immediate needs and to everyone else who recommended their favorite editor. Dreamweaver is on the pricey side at $300 bucks for their basic version but to buy the editor AND have access to the flashy Flash technology for a few more bucks really makes it rather attractive. Has anyone gone whole-hog and developed a site with Flash graphics AND a database? THAT would be something to see. Hell, I'd pimp my mother to be able to do something like THAT! Only kidding, Mom! I love you! Yours, Murph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
