[PHP] PHP Book
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alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the good PHP book to learn PHP? -- http://alexus.org/ STFA - this was gone over last week -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Book
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the good PHP book to learn PHP? -- http://alexus.org/ STFA - this was gone over last week STFU would be better. ;-P He was the same one who posted the same question on 20 March. -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php book
opinions of good book is almost the same as opinion of good car. I can suggest you to go to barnes and noble or borders or any other bookstore, buy cup of coffee or tea, grab all php books from shelf and read some chapters. you are no going to learn anything, rather to compare styles. some authors use a lot of code, some to much code, some explain to details some throw just links where to find more info, some explain functions with examples, some just in general... you know what I mean. spend 2-3 hours going through the books and then pick one you like (the style) the most. my 2 cents. -ll - Original Message From: alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:50:23 AM Subject: [PHP] php book what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? -- http://alexus.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [PHP] php book
Lamp Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opinions of good book is almost the same as opinion of good car. !-- Snip -- I myself prefer books along the lines of the Sam's teach yourself * in * hours/minutes series. I picked up the PHP/MySQL/Apache book when I first started learning PHP and still keep it around. I have looked at the Bibles around for PHP and other languages but prefer books that give you the entire chunk of code they are talking about instead of piece-mealing it together, It's the Context that is important to me. But I generally keep a browser pointed to php.net and search the functions on the site while trying to get a particularly irritating bit of code to mesh with the rest. YMMV, Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php book
what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? -- http://alexus.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php book
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend starting with a book. I'd recommend the online manual at http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break. Others may recommend good printed material though. -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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At 11:04 AM -0400 3/19/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend starting with a book. I'd recommend the online manual at http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break. Others may recommend good printed material though. I'm sure we have a page somewhere that shows what tutorial links are recommended. But here's a few I've used: http://www.unf.edu/~rita0001/eresources/php_tutorials/index.htm http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp http://www.brainbell.com/tutors/php/php_mysql/index.html http://www.tizag.com/phpT/ http://hudzilla.org/phpwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php book
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend starting with a book. I'd recommend the online manual at http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break. Others may recommend good printed material though. -- /Daniel P. Brown I must agree with Dan's approach. I've messed with Frontier, ASP, Java and PHP using this approach and it works for me. I always find that books just miss out on that vital topic I need to work on. Set up a small project (I'd recommend something database related) and look for sample scripts in the manual and elsewhere. Cheers George -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM, George Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must agree with Dan's approach. I've messed with Frontier, ASP, Java and PHP using this approach and it works for me. I always find that books just miss out on that vital topic I need to work on. I find that you're also going to be restricted to using the author's methodology and preference if you follow a book, rather than developing your own. It would be like telling a fine artist that his painting technique is all wrong, and that there's only one real way of doing the job. All of the paintings in the Louvre would look like they were done by Disney. -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 01:25 PM tedd said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... No doubt -- I have enough problems with English. My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. My apologies if any offense was taken. Cheers, tedd PS: He is a native speaker, it's just not English. :-) No offense was taken on my part. I am aware that the PHPClasses site is not perfect for everybody. So, when I mention something in public related to the site, I am used to get reactions that really do not favour the site. I do not take that personally though that site is basically run by MMI (Me, Myself and I). -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 01:29 PM tedd said the following: Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Why are ads necessary? I don't follow. Pay the bills. It may not be evident, but this is my full time day job. This is not an hobby site. Not only the site needs to generate revenue to pay for its operation costs, but also to keep me working full time on it. It is a privilege for me to be able to work in my own project at full time. But obviously I have to keep it as a viable business too. That is why the site would have been closed if it were not the ads. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/07/2007 01:53 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment Dang I'm felling stoopid. I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake, had I matched up column M with row P... Sorry. No problem. No apologies are necessary. Nobody knows everything. Even if you knew it, it is ok to get confused once in a while. My memory used to be better when I was younger, or at least when I did not have to work overnight. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 8:39 PM -0600 2/5/07, Richard Lynch wrote: On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... No doubt -- I have enough problems with English. My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. My apologies if any offense was taken. Cheers, tedd PS: He is a native speaker, it's just not English. :-) -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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At 4:04 AM -0200 2/6/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Why are ads necessary? I don't follow. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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tedd wrote: My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. HumoUrous roof reading skills you've got there. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. Indeed. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Tue, February 6, 2007 12:04 am, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment Dang I'm felling stoopid. I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake, had I matched up column M with row P... Sorry. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
-Message d'origine- De : tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : lundi 5 février 2007 17:10 À : Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net Objet : Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Quote: good English writing skills :P Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
How many book reviews do you suppose Manuel has written in his life time? - Craige On 2/5/07, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Message d'origine- De: tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé: lundi 5 février 2007 17:10 À: Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net Objet: Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Quote: good English writing skills :P Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 11:14 AM -0500 2/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Will what? Tingly feeling? Tingly feeling? I don't need no stinking tingly feeling! Paraphrased from Treasure of Sierra Madre -- but somehow, it doesn't sound right. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/05/2007 02:09 PM tedd said the following: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Good catch! ;-) Those that never commited a typo, throw the first stone! Oh, you just did! ;-) -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/05/2007 02:14 PM Robert Cummings said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Unfortunately, publishing book reviews is not the kind of thing that is worth the time it took me to develop the review system. That was true in the year 2000 and it is still true until today. Anyway, since the system is already done, hopefully it will help all book writers that are brave enough to invest plenty of time writing good PHP books. Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. At least maybe the reviews can benefit the authors either helping the books sell more or getting them better known in the community and the consulting business. When that happens, I will be satisfied and feel compensated for all the time I invested in developing the review system. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... [This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to solve -- don't use his site.] -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:56 am, Manuel Lemos wrote: Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the hours correctly, as I understand it. I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay and little odds of it making you any money, really. Though it is a nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job interview, where it can maybe pay off. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:43 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the hours correctly, as I understand it. Right. Most author write books because they love what they write about. I know very few people that wrote more than one PHP book. Dedicating time writing books is a big sacrifice. It is not the most efficient way to make a living. Anyway, keep in mind that a US minimum wage is a reasonable amount of money for people in other countries. Writing books is not such a bad money if they get published by an US or European publisher. The whole PHP community that buy their books should be thankful because some writers work very hard to make a living. Some authors of books that I reviewed in the PHPClasses site have written me asking if I could review their new books. If that encourages them to keep writing good books, I am pleased to help them. Unfortunately I do not have the time to review all books that I am asked to review. That is why I am encouraging other people with more time than me to work on it. I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay and little odds of it making you any money, really. Though it is a nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job interview, where it can maybe pay off. Right. Anyway, I am not talking about being Tech Reviewer of books that were not yet published. I am talking about published books, so there is not even a money compensation for people that publish reviews in the PHPClasses site. The only compensation is that reviewers will keep the review copies for themselves. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment [This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to solve -- don't use his site.] Right. After all everybody is free to go anywhere you want or not, with or without ads. Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Anyway, for those very intolerant to ads, at least there is an option in the user options page that the can check to disable pop under and interstitial ads. This was never a secret, but I am not encouraging anybody to use that option either. The site needs the ad revenue generated by all the advertisiment. That option does not disable all ads, but at least disables probably the most annoying. For those that would like to see no ads at all and benefit from full site loading speed, after almost 5 years of promises, in the next months I will finally launch the package of premium services that among several other interesting benefits, it will provide an ad free site navigation, for a small monthly fee. I know that only those that real care about the site will adhere. But at least there will finally be an option for all those that avoid visiting the site because of the ads. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, Short version: the PHPClasses site is looking for reviewers of books of interest of the PHP users. Authors and publishers want to send me the books but nowadays I do not have the time to review most of them, if any. The candidates that are picked to review the available books will get free review copies. Just send a private message to info at phpclasses.org if you are interested. Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. If you have read interesting books, you can submit a review already here (you need to be a site subscriber of course): http://www.phpclasses.org/contribute.html If you have questions or comments, please read the longer version first: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/60-User-submitted-book-reviews-and-package-required-PHP-versions.html -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
it depends on your programming level and taste of reading I really like Advanced PHP programming but some people he's a lousy teacher, SitePoint books are the most reader friendly books but maybe they aren't the most valuable books in the market. In the last two months the market got load of new PHP books but this time it wasn't General-PHP books but php-specific-topic books, namely design patterns, security, php5 objects etc.. so the best now is to look for php book talking about specific php related topic for me the best are Topic book General Advanced PHP Programming Security: Ilia's security book Guide to php security OOP patterns: PHP design patterns PHP5/general php:php5 power programming Tools/extensions/internals: essential php tools Finally the best is to read some chapters of the book to see if you like how it's written and to check reviewers comments on Amazon. On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 21:50 -0700, Jim Lucas wrote: Paul Goepfert wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul Professional PHP5 by WROX -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
[snip] Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. [/snip] Core PHP. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
Paul Goepfert wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul Professional PHP5 by WROX -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
Man, Anothers good books: - PHP|Architect's Guide to PHP Design Patterns, ISBN: 0973589825 - PHP 5 Objects, Patterns, and Practice, ISBN: 0973589825 On 4/8/06, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Goepfert wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul Professional PHP5 by WROX -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations
I second O'Reilly's PHP Cookbook. Another recommendation is Larry Ullman's books, especially HP Advanced for the World Wide Web. I try to triangulate, using several books that come at the code differently. Jud. Judson Vaughn [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seiter Vaughn Communications 12455 Plowman Court Herndon, VA 20170 703.450.9740 svc Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: * Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding in the most efficient manner. What's a few of the better books out there? [/snip] [snip jblanchard:] I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook [/snip] My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the language. HTH! I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are completely insecure and display really bad programming habits. Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book). I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend -- I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using php.net as a reference). -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations
O`Reilly's programming PHP is quite good too :) Judson Vaughn wrote: I second O'Reilly's PHP Cookbook. Another recommendation is Larry Ullman's books, especially HP Advanced for the World Wide Web. I try to triangulate, using several books that come at the code differently. Jud. Judson Vaughn [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seiter Vaughn Communications 12455 Plowman Court Herndon, VA 20170 703.450.9740 svc Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: * Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding in the most efficient manner. What's a few of the better books out there? [/snip] [snip jblanchard:] I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook [/snip] My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the language. HTH! I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are completely insecure and display really bad programming habits. Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book). I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend -- I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using php.net as a reference). -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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--- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. If you need a strong foundation: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/ If you already have a strong foundation: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616 Hope that helps. Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams Coming Soon http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially if you are not into reading technical manuals http://www.thickbook.com On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:20:05 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry... wrong address On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially if you are not into reading technical manuals On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:54:14 -0800 (PST), Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. If you need a strong foundation: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/ If you already have a strong foundation: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616 Hope that helps. Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams Coming Soon http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations
I enjoy the Core PHP Programming, Third Edition by Leon Atkinson very much. Best regards, Yang Shiqi -Original Message- From: Joe Harman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:20 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially if you are not into reading technical manuals http://www.thickbook.com On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:20:05 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry... wrong address On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially if you are not into reading technical manuals On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:54:14 -0800 (PST), Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. If you need a strong foundation: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/ If you already have a strong foundation: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616 Hope that helps. Chris = Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams Coming Soon http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP book recommendations
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RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations
[snip] I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding in the most efficient manner. What's a few of the better books out there? [/snip] I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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[snip] I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding in the most efficient manner. What's a few of the better books out there? [/snip] [snip jblanchard:] I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook [/snip] My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the language. HTH! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations
* Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid foundation in PHP. I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding in the most efficient manner. What's a few of the better books out there? [/snip] [snip jblanchard:] I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook [/snip] My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the language. HTH! I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are completely insecure and display really bad programming habits. Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book). I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend -- I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using php.net as a reference). -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney | WEBSITES: Webmaster and IT Specialist | http://www.garden.org National Gardening Association| http://www.kidsgardening.com 802-863-5251 x156 | http://nationalgardenmonth.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://vermontbotanical.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
On Saturday 28 April 2001 00:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IO 340 pages function references (copied from the manual) [2] That is wrong. Leon havent copied 340 pages from the manual. I should know this myself because I have finished the translation into German. Ok, I guess you're right. sorry. What I wanted to express is that the same information is in the online manual. That is also wrong. looking Ok, I again stand corrected. The reference in the book contains additional examples and explanatory texts. Sorry Leon, sorry Egon. So here's a rephrased version of what I wanted to express with my original mail: The book is targeted at people completely new to PHP and relatively new to programming as such, and thus it is IMO next to useless for someone with 3 years Perl experience (which is what this thread originally was about). Again, I can only speak about the first edition - if you say the second Ed has changed in this regard that's great. Please read books more carefully and don't pester this mailing list with your nonsense comments. I mean that book with a foreword by Andi Gutmans. Well, you just said Core PHP Programming and I described that book. But you're right in that I know nothing about the second edition. I haven't start this thread. So be carefull. I have Leons second edition and you can buy another book at Markt+Technik. The PHP manual is for free use. Use that if you are not comfortable with Leons book. It is not very good to judge some books on this list. I know some authors who contribute to the PHP manual and write own books. Well, someone recommended that book, and I tried pointing out that IMO that book is the wrong choice for that particular person. I apologize for putting down the book as something generally bad (that wasn't intended), but I don't apologize for having an opinion and telling others about it. This list is a *good* place for book reviews, because (1) reviews help (future) readers to choose the right book for them and (2) because bad reviews (such as mine) can be easily corrected (as you did) here. -- Christian Reiniger LGDC Webmaster (http://sunsite.dk/lgdc/) Very funny, Scotty! Now beam up my clothes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] PHP Book?
Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :)) I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy? Regards Hamed Nik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP Book?
Professional PHP by WROX. Great book. It provides you with some real world examples. Chad Angerer HTML Programmer Internet Broadcasting Systems 651.365.4006 -Original Message- From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP Book? Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :)) I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy? Regards Hamed Nik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Book?
Hi, i suggest three: o) Beginning PHP4 by Chris Lea et. al. Editors ISBN and so on at: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/107-8101819-4534115 o) PHP poket reference by Rasmus Leedorf, O'Reilly. OK 4 a brief fuction reference and fundamentals (it's the best choice when you learn something about php but u dn.t want to go out with a 5 inch manual. o) www.phpbuilder.com they have tutorials from beginners (i.e. php programming with MySQL) to advanced (page caching compression). I've learned a lot of php on Web. Hamed Nik wrote: Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :)) I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy? Regards Hamed Nik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (p)Ivan Student DIST Bio-Lab Viale Causa 13 16145 Genoa - Italy tel: +39 010 3532789 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Book?
I used 'Professional PHP Programming' by WROX Press first, but to learn more about what PHP can do and the best way to do it, I recommend 'Web Application Development with PHP4', you can get both from Amazon. Randal. Hamed Nik wrote in message 9cbr3a$mkc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :)) I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy? Regards Hamed Nik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP Book?
You can check for PHP / MySQL books at : PHP: http://www.weberdev.com/index.php3?GoTo=ShowShoppingItems.php3%3FMasterCateg ory%3D156%26SubCategory%3D106%26SubCategoryName%3DPHP%26MainCategoryName%3DB ooks MySQL: == http://www.weberdev.com/index.php3?GoTo=ShowShoppingItems.php3%3FMasterCateg ory%3D156%26SubCategory%3D1%26SubCategoryName%3DMySQL%26MainCategoryName%3DB ooks And you can also check the Articles / tutorials and examples on weberdev as a very good reference. Sincerely berber Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!! To see where PHP might take you tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP Book? Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :)) I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy? Regards Hamed Nik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP Book?
PHP Developers Cookbook, by Sterling Hughes I like it: as the name might suggest, it is packed with real-World examples. I also bought Beginning PHP Programming (Wrox press). Mistake. Big mistake. It is aimed at people who are *completely* new to programming. The review that I read of it didn't convey this aspect :( For example, in chapter 5 or 6 there is a paragraph along the lines of: You know that we told you to make your code reusable? Here's why: you can use something called a function... I actually found it vaguely funny, whilst I was banging my head against the wall. -Original Message- From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 14:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP Book? Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :)) I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy? Regards Hamed Nik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
On Friday 27 April 2001 15:15, Johan Holst Nielsen wrote: Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by Try Core PHP Programmning, it's have a lot of good stuff! That book is definitely the wrong choice for someone with 3 years perl experience (perhaps unless there's a second edition). The copy I unfortunately bought is built somehow like that: 5 pages useful intro 45 pages explaining basic language contructs [1] 4 pages explaining classes 11 pages giving a (small) overview of using print(), getting data from forms, file upoads, env-vars, cookies, include/require and file IO 340 pages function references (copied from the manual) [2] After that comes the somehow useful part - overviews of common task areas - using databases, string munging, ... But that's only quick overviews, and some of the topics are just about generic (language independent) stuff, e.g. the description of basic sorting algorithms (the stuff you do *not* want to use in PHP :) Well, it gets one plus point because it includes an ASCII chart :) So: forget about that book. If at all, you'll quickly glance over it and then let it collect dust forever. [1]: Perl is very similar in this area. Just looking through the manual will be better (and quicker) than reading that book section [2]: completely uses - the online manual is much quicker to search and much more up to date (the book only covers PHP3) -- Christian Reiniger LGDC Webmaster (http://sunsite.dk/lgdc/) Error 032: Recursion error - see error 032 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Book?
I agree 100% with Professional PHP Programming. It was my first book. Also php fast and easy web development by Julie Meloni. - Kath - Original Message - From: Angerer, Chad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Hamed Nik' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Book? Professional PHP by WROX. Great book. It provides you with some real world examples. Chad Angerer HTML Programmer Internet Broadcasting Systems 651.365.4006 -Original Message- From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP Book? Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :)) I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy? Regards Hamed Nik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 08:06:54PM +0200, Christian Reiniger wrote: On Friday 27 April 2001 15:15, Johan Holst Nielsen wrote: Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by Try Core PHP Programmning, it's have a lot of good stuff! That book is definitely the wrong choice for someone with 3 years perl experience (perhaps unless there's a second edition). The copy I unfortunately bought is built somehow like that: What books are you reading? 5 pages useful intro 45 pages explaining basic language contructs [1] 4 pages explaining classes 11 pages giving a (small) overview of using print(), getting data from forms, file upoads, env-vars, cookies, include/require and file IO 340 pages function references (copied from the manual) [2] That is wrong. Leon havent copied 340 pages from the manual. I should know this myself because I have finished the translation into German. After that comes the somehow useful part - overviews of common task areas - using databases, string munging, ... But that's only quick overviews, and some of the topics are just about generic (language independent) stuff, e.g. the description of basic sorting algorithms (the stuff you do *not* want to use in PHP :) Well, it gets one plus point because it includes an ASCII chart :) So: forget about that book. If at all, you'll quickly glance over it and then let it collect dust forever. [1]: Perl is very similar in this area. Just looking through the manual will be better (and quicker) than reading that book section [2]: completely uses - the online manual is much quicker to search and much more up to date (the book only covers PHP3) This is not true. Leon has written his second edition. This edition contains PHP 4 also. Please read books more carefully and don't pester this mailing list with your nonsense comments. I mean that book with a foreword by Andi Gutmans. -Egon -- LinuxTag, Stuttgart, Germany: July 5-8 2001: http://www.linuxtag.de/ All known books about PHP and related books: http://php.net/books.php Concert Band of the University of Hohenheim: http://www.concert-band.de/ First and second bestselling book in German: http://www.php-buch.de/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
On Friday 27 April 2001 22:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Core PHP Programmning, it's have a lot of good stuff! That book is definitely the wrong choice for someone with 3 years perl experience (perhaps unless there's a second edition). The copy I unfortunately bought is built somehow like that: What books are you reading? None right now (manual and online articles only - and the mailing list of course), but I plan to look for a good advanced one soon. IO 340 pages function references (copied from the manual) [2] That is wrong. Leon havent copied 340 pages from the manual. I should know this myself because I have finished the translation into German. Ok, I guess you're right. sorry. What I wanted to express is that the same information is in the online manual. [2]: completely uses - the online manual is much quicker to search and much more up to date (the book only covers PHP3) This is not true. Leon has written his second edition. This edition contains PHP 4 also. Ah, ok (that's why I wrote perhaps unless there's a second edition at the beginning). I own the first edition and described that. Please read books more carefully and don't pester this mailing list with your nonsense comments. I mean that book with a foreword by Andi Gutmans. Well, you just said Core PHP Programming and I described that book. But you're right in that I know nothing about the second edition. -- Christian Reiniger LGDC Webmaster (http://sunsite.dk/lgdc/) I sat laughing snidely into my notebook until they showed me a PC running Linux. And oh! It was as though the heavens opened and God handed down a client-side OS so beautiful, so graceful, and so elegant that a million Microsoft developers couldn't have invented it even if they had a hundred years and a thousand crates of Jolt cola. - LAN Times -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:01:22AM +0200, Christian Reiniger wrote: On Friday 27 April 2001 22:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Core PHP Programmning, it's have a lot of good stuff! That book is definitely the wrong choice for someone with 3 years perl experience (perhaps unless there's a second edition). The copy I unfortunately bought is built somehow like that: What books are you reading? None right now (manual and online articles only - and the mailing list of course), but I plan to look for a good advanced one soon. IO 340 pages function references (copied from the manual) [2] That is wrong. Leon havent copied 340 pages from the manual. I should know this myself because I have finished the translation into German. Ok, I guess you're right. sorry. What I wanted to express is that the same information is in the online manual. That is also wrong. [2]: completely uses - the online manual is much quicker to search and much more up to date (the book only covers PHP3) This is not true. Leon has written his second edition. This edition contains PHP 4 also. Ah, ok (that's why I wrote perhaps unless there's a second edition at the beginning). I own the first edition and described that. Please read books more carefully and don't pester this mailing list with your nonsense comments. I mean that book with a foreword by Andi Gutmans. Well, you just said Core PHP Programming and I described that book. But you're right in that I know nothing about the second edition. I haven't start this thread. So be carefull. I have Leons second edition and you can buy another book at Markt+Technik. The PHP manual is for free use. Use that if you are not comfortable with Leons book. It is not very good to judge some books on this list. I know some authors who contribute to the PHP manual and write own books. -Egon -- LinuxTag, Stuttgart, Germany: July 5-8 2001: http://www.linuxtag.de/ All known books about PHP and related books: http://php.net/books.php Concert Band of the University of Hohenheim: http://www.concert-band.de/ First and second bestselling book in German: http://www.php-buch.de/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
Hi All! One of the best books on PHP that I ever read is Web Application Development with PHP 4.0 from New Riders. It is an advanced book, not recomend it for beginners, but the medium/advanced skill programmer will love it. THat's my 10 reais (brazillian money):-) []'s Alex Piaz Webmaster Global Map Internet Marketing www.globalmap.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Those who know what's best for us - Must rise and save us from ourselves -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
A good book for a beginner is The PHP 4 Bible Chris Anderson aka Null PHP Developer / Nulltech PHP-GTK Tester / gtk.php.net STA Administrator / www.stronger.org DOD Co-Owner / www.dayofdefeat.com - Original Message - From: Alex Piaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 7:14 PM Subject: Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book? Hi All! One of the best books on PHP that I ever read is Web Application Development with PHP 4.0 from New Riders. It is an advanced book, not recomend it for beginners, but the medium/advanced skill programmer will love it. THat's my 10 reais (brazillian money):-) []'s Alex Piaz Webmaster Global Map Internet Marketing www.globalmap.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Those who know what's best for us - Must rise and save us from ourselves -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP] PHP Book?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 08:06:54PM +0200, Christian Reiniger wrote: On Friday 27 April 2001 15:15, Johan Holst Nielsen wrote: Hey everyone... I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by Try Core PHP Programmning, it's have a lot of good stuff! That book is definitely the wrong choice for someone with 3 years perl experience (perhaps unless there's a second edition). The copy I unfortunately bought is built somehow like that: What books are you reading? 5 pages useful intro 45 pages explaining basic language contructs [1] 4 pages explaining classes 11 pages giving a (small) overview of using print(), getting data from forms, file upoads, env-vars, cookies, include/require and file IO 340 pages function references (copied from the manual) [2] That is wrong. Leon havent copied 340 pages from the manual. I should know this myself because I have finished the translation into German. Well, for the first edition of this book I found it extremely boring. Don't know why really. The whole thing felt pretty old - but it isn't. Hopefully the second ed. is much better. (I know many people like PHP Core). Anyway, PHP Developers Cookbook (Sterling Hughes) from SAMS is very nice. Gives lot's of examples of everyday stuff you'd like to do. M. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] PHP Book
Hi there, I got this book from php.net is it the one you're after? who knows. I just tried mailing it to you, but it was a huge 9Mb and my Firewall stops mails after 5Mb What I have done for you is put it up on line at my site. Click here to get it, but remember it is 9Mb in size, have you got a fast connection. I'll take it down in a few days, if you still need it, let me know http://www.beetastic.co.uk/phpman.pdf good luck Tris... ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Book
My god, you ever have one of those days??? I missed out an R... the correct address is... http://www.beertastic.co.uk/phpman.pdf I am sorry, lets try again eh? Tris... Could not resolve nameserver. Original Message On 3/12/01, 8:44:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [PHP] PHP Book: Hi there, I got this book from php.net is it the one you're after? who knows. I just tried mailing it to you, but it was a huge 9Mb and my Firewall stops mails after 5Mb What I have done for you is put it up on line at my site. Click here to get it, but remember it is 9Mb in size, have you got a fast connection. I'll take it down in a few days, if you still need it, let me know http://www.beetastic.co.uk/phpman.pdf good luck Tris... ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] PHP Book
Hi all, I am new at PHP and I realize that the pdf format of the PHP Book by Bruce Momjian at http://www.php.net has been removed from there and now there is only the html format (I guess I arrived very late to get the pdf format). Has anybody downloaded the pdf file of this book when the link was active ??? I really would like to get it. Thanks in advance, Marcelo Pereira Unicamp - Brasil
RE: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations
And I remind you all to buy them at WeberDev.com and help us pay the hosting :) Sincerely berber Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!! To see where PHP might take you tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Brian V Bonini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:14 PM To: PHP Lists Subject: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP books. Something broad but with good novice concepts -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] PHP Book Recommendations
Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP books. Something broad but with good novice concepts -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations
Brian V Bonini wrote: Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP books. Something broad but with good novice concepts There are many at http://php.net/books.php. Maybe Leon Atkinsons Core PHP (second edition) or Sterling Hughes Developer's Cookbook. -Egon -- SIX Offene Systeme GmbH Stuttgart - Berlin Sielminger Strae 63 D-70771 Leinfelden-Echterdingen Fon +49 711 9909164 Fax +49 711 9909199 http://www.six.de Besuchen Sie uns auf der CeBIT 2001, Halle 6, Stand F62/4 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations
I agree... The red book "Professional PHP Programming" (WROX "Programmer to Programmer" series) is an exellent PHP book but, if you're looking for novice level stuff, WROX also published a companion called "Beginning PHP4". i was fluent in perl when i picked up the professional one, and had no problems with it... but i wouldnt reccomend it to people with little or no programming experience... the professional book seems to take for granted a grasp of fundamental programming concepts, if you're a true novice, get the "beginning php4" one first (and then professional :) - Original Message - From: "John Monfort" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Brian V Bonini" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "PHP Lists" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations Profession PHP Programming ISBN: 1-861002-96-3 __John Monfort_ _+---+_ P E P I E D E S I G N S www.pepiedesigns.com "The world is waiting, are you ready?" -+___+- On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Brian V Bonini wrote: Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP books. Something broad but with good novice concepts -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations
The most useful "second" book is : PHP Developers Cookbook It really is nice. I say "second" because it's geared towards those that understand a bit already but still, it'll even help the complete newbie (easy to read). Excellent tips, short-cuts, examples, etc. Includes uses of various PEAR classes too. Regards, Philip -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
