On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Bastien Koert wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
>>> community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questio
Bob McConnell wrote:
> From: Per Jessen
>
>> Bob McConnell wrote:
>>
>>> In chronological order -
>>>
>>> Languages: [snip] C++ (Still don't
>>> understand the purpose of objects or classes).
>>
>> Two words - encapsulation and abstraction.
>
> Both of which are euphemisms that simply mean o
From: Robert Cummings
> On 10-07-29 10:18 PM, David McGlone wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 22:14 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
>>> Early high school I used to program in basic on a TRS-80. Oh how I
loved
>>> saving my programs to audio cassette. Later in high school I learned
>>> pascal and then
From: Per Jessen
> Bob McConnell wrote:
>
>> In chronological order -
>>
>> Languages: [snip] C++ (Still don't
>> understand the purpose of objects or classes).
>
> Two words - encapsulation and abstraction.
Both of which are euphemisms that simply mean obfuscation. I learned
very early in my
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 22:28 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On 10-07-29 10:18 PM, David McGlone wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 22:14 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >> Early high school I used to program in basic on a TRS-80. Oh how I loved
> >> saving my programs to audio cassette. Later in high
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Rixham [mailto:nrix...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 29 July 2010 06:36
> in no particular order:
>
> What other languages and web techs do you currently use other than
> PHP?
> - if you include html or css please include version, if js then
> preferred libs, and
Nathan Rixham wrote:
> (shared) hosts and in developer+projects - but I also worry that it
> doesn't change with the times quick enough, + the core doesn't have
> the same hacker + iterative development focus anymore, contrast other
> languages which get major functionality added at minor revision
Bob McConnell wrote:
> In chronological order -
>
> Languages: [snip] C++ (Still don't
> understand the purpose of objects or classes).
Two words - encapsulation and abstraction.
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Nathan Rixham wrote:
> What other languages and web techs do you currently use other than
> PHP? - if you include html or css please include version, if js then
> preferred libs, and whether client or server side.
C, C++, assembler, xhtml, css2, xslt1, javascript(client), shell-script.
> What's
Nathan Rixham wrote:
What other languages and web techs do you currently use other than PHP?
- if you include html or css please include version, if js then
preferred libs, and whether client or server side.
I'm trying to bring customers up to modern standards, but many STILL have W2k
running
On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
Hey Nathan!
I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions
- feel free to answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add
more of your
On 10-07-29 10:18 PM, David McGlone wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 22:14 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
Early high school I used to program in basic on a TRS-80. Oh how I loved
saving my programs to audio cassette. Later in high school I learned
pascal and then later qbasic. Later still I studied c
On 10-07-29 03:35 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On 7/28/10 11:26 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
- Those driving PHP development itself (vis, writing the engine) don't seem to
comprehend the idea of someone running a web site who isn't also a C
developer, sysadmin, and performance specialist. "If you don
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 22:14 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On 10-07-29 01:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
> > related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions -
> > feel free to answer none to all
On 10-07-29 01:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions -
feel free to answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of
your own - this isn't for anything s
Bastien Koert wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions - feel free to
answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of yo
On 29 July 2010 07:36, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
> community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions - feel free to
> answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of your own - this
> isn't for
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
> community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions - feel free to
> answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of your own - this
>
On 7/28/10 11:26 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
> - Those driving PHP development itself (vis, writing the engine) don't seem
> to
> comprehend the idea of someone running a web site who isn't also a C
> developer, sysadmin, and performance specialist. "If you don't have root
> then
> we don't car
On 7/28/2010 10:36 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions -
feel free to answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more
of your own - this isn't for anyth
On 7/29/10 2:32 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
What's your previous language/tech trail?
Started with QBasic and realized it was crap. Moved on to Java,
realized object rock but J2EE doesn't. Moved to PHP / Java.
QBasic was crap lol, that was my first language after playing with .bat
files!
Oh b
On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Hi Josh,
>
> Thanks for taking the time - comments in-line from here :)
>
> Josh Kehn wrote:
>> Java, JS (in the form of Node and MongoDB, +raw client / jQuery stuff) and
>> PHP get used regularly. Python / Ruby infrequently.
>
> With true co
From: Nathan Rixham
> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
> related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions -
>
> What other languages and web techs do you currently use other than
PHP?
> - if you include html or css please include version, if
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 06:36:13AM +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
> related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions -
> feel free to answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of
> your o
Nathan:
What other languages and web techs do you currently use other than PHP?
- if you include html or css please include version, if js then
preferred libs, and whether client or server side.
Besides php, I use mysql, javascript (jQuery, ajax, DOM scripting),
css, and html. As for version
On 29 July 2010 15:43, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> have you sent an email to ?
I love how you guys are torturing the poor bastard *after* he made it
clear he's tried *in several ways* to unsubscribe and *really* doesn't
need more advice but a list admin. Made me chuckle :)
Regards
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On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 08:32 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote:
> Hello All. I have been given advice on how to remove myself from this
> list, and taken it. I have tried on my own to discover how to remove
> myself from this list. I have even ( something I am not proud of) hinted
> that I might start irre
Hello All. I have been given advice on how to remove myself from this
list, and taken it. I have tried on my own to discover how to remove
myself from this list. I have even ( something I am not proud of) hinted
that I might start irrelevant threads of conversation so you will ban
me. Unfortunately
Adam Richardson wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions - feel free to
answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of
Larry Garfield wrote:
On Thursday 29 July 2010 12:36:13 am Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions -
feel free to answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more o
Larry Garfield wrote:
On Thursday 29 July 2010 02:07:58 am you wrote:
Hi Larry,
Thanks for taking the time to reply, a solid insightful one at that -
kudos +1 for your opensource drupal efforts!
Good of you to mention, and indeed to see, Palinter grasping opensource
with two hands, this is ce
Hi Josh,
Thanks for taking the time - comments in-line from here :)
Josh Kehn wrote:
On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Hi All,
I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions - feel free t
On Thursday 29 July 2010 02:07:58 am you wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> Thanks for taking the time to reply, a solid insightful one at that -
> kudos +1 for your opensource drupal efforts!
>
> Good of you to mention, and indeed to see, Palinter grasping opensource
> with two hands, this is certainly a v
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
> community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions - feel free to
> answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of your own - this
On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and related
> community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions - feel free to
> answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of your own - this
>
On Thursday 29 July 2010 12:36:13 am Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I find myself wondering about the state of the PHP community (and
> related community with a PHP focus), so, here's a bunch of questions -
> feel free to answer none to all of them, on list or off, or add more of
> your own -
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