Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
I have an app that gets passed in xml and use this code to read that data in
// We use php://input to get the raw $_POST results.
$xml_post = file_get_contents('php://input');
Maybe it will help
Bastien
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:48 AM, shiplu shiplu@gmail.com wrote:
Question: how do you use $mylist when the xml is not as a file but is
returned on a web page?
I assume It returns as a string from page. Then use
simplexml_load_string(). See
http://php.net/manual/en/function.simplexml-load-string.php
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
On Apr 22, 2013 7:00 AM, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote:
I have an app that gets passed in xml and use this code to read that data
in
// We use php://input to get the raw $_POST results.
$xml_post = file_get_contents('php://input');
$xml_post is string. I think now you know what to do.
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
This will be brief as I'm on a tablet... On Apr 19, 2013 5:53 PM, dealTek deal...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, tamouse mailing lists tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: page1.php is sending out to credit card company - getting processed - then coming back to the *same page1.php* with the XML data listed below... Please expand what you mean by sending out and coming back - is this a REST or SOAP API call? In that case, the response body is likely to be the XML. - so I'm not going to some other page to get it - it is coming to me to the same page I am on.. so - after the XML result comes in - I need to assign the php to the XML somehow... How do you recognize the XML result com(ing) in ? Hi tamouse, with my untrained eye - it appears that this is what is 'sending out' $data = sendXMLviaCurl($xmlRequest,$gatewayURL); This is the sending and receiving -- the function uses curl to send your xml request and returns the response from that. and this might be what is 'responding back' on the same page $gwResponse = @new SimpleXMLElement((string)$data); $data contains the response, this is how you are processing it. Skipping the long and monolithic code, what I will suggest is that you break things up into modules, functions and procrdures, and write unit tests that will check each piece seperately. After you've verified that each step is working, then you can start to integrate the pieces, following the stricture of keeping code (logic), data, and presentation seperate. It is much easier to deal with debugging when your code is simple and does only one thing. Break out the part you are asking here about, the API call. Build up a viable test request that will get you a known response and make sure you are getting what you expect. My suspicion is that the response here isnot what you expect.
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 12:51 AM, dealTek deal...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, tamouse mailing lists tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: page1.php is sending out to credit card company - getting processed - then coming back to the *same page1.php* with the XML data listed below... Please expand what you mean by sending out and coming back - is this a REST or SOAP API call? In that case, the response body is likely to be the XML. - so I'm not going to some other page to get it - it is coming to me to the same page I am on.. so - after the XML result comes in - I need to assign the php to the XML somehow... How do you recognize the XML result com(ing) in ? Hi tamouse, with my untrained eye - it appears that this is what is 'sending out' $data = sendXMLviaCurl($xmlRequest,$gatewayURL); and this might be what is 'responding back' on the same page $gwResponse = @new SimpleXMLElement((string)$data); you can see these lines towards the bottom at - // Process Step Three... Why did you prefix this with @? This way your hiding the real error that is probably the answer to why it is not working. - Matijn
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
Question: how do you use $mylist when the xml is not as a file but is returned on a web page? I assume It returns as a string from page. Then use simplexml_load_string(). See http://php.net/manual/en/function.simplexml-load-string.php -- Shiplu.Mokadd.im ImgSign.com | A dynamic signature machine Innovation distinguishes between follower and leader
[PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
Hi all,
newbie - just starting with trying to parse XML...
$mylist = simplexml_load_file('thelist.xml');
then use a foreach to echo the data...
?php
$mysongs = simplexml_load_file('songs.xml');
foreach ($mysongs as $songinfo) {
$title=$songinfo-title;
$artist=$songinfo-artist;
$date=$songinfo['dateplayed'];
echo $title.' --- ';
echo $artist.' --- ';
echo $date.' --- ';
echo ' /br ';
}
?
that I get ...
Question: how do you use $mylist when the xml is not as a file but is returned
on a web page?
an example of the real xml I am trying to work with is like this demo below
Goal : when this response comes back - I would like to be able to get the data
as php and then update the database
example
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
response
result1/result
result-textSUCCESS/result-text
transaction-id1865264174/transaction-id
result-code100/result-code
authorization-code123456/authorization-code
avs-resultN/avs-result
cvv-resultN/cvv-result
action-typesale/action-type
amount12.00/amount
ip-address::1/ip-address
industryecommerce/industry
processor-idccprocessora/processor-id
currencyUSD/currency
order-descriptionSmall Order/order-description
merchant-defined-field-1Red/merchant-defined-field-1
merchant-defined-field-2Medium/merchant-defined-field-2
order-id1234/order-id
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
shipping-amount0.00/shipping-amount
billing
first-nameJohn/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
phone555-555-/phone
emailt...@example.com/email
companyAcme, Inc./company
cc-number40**0002/cc-number
cc-exp0118/cc-exp
/billing
shipping
first-nameMary/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
address2Unit #2/address2
/shipping
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure1/unit-of-measure
unit-cost5./unit-cost
quantity1./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest 2 product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure2/unit-of-measure
unit-cost2.5000/unit-cost
quantity2./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
/response
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
A webpage is a file, that (usually) a browser downloads and parses.
You'll do exactly the same :-) I don't know exactly, but you can try to
pass the URL directly to simplexml_load_file(). If this doesn't work,
download the content (for example with file_get_contents()) and pass it to
simplexml_load_string(). There are obviously many other approaches, but you
should now have an idea :-)
Or you use a specialized library like Guzzle.
Am 19.04.2013 22:17 schrieb dealTek deal...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
newbie - just starting with trying to parse XML...
$mylist = simplexml_load_file('thelist.xml');
then use a foreach to echo the data...
?php
$mysongs = simplexml_load_file('songs.xml');
foreach ($mysongs as $songinfo) {
$title=$songinfo-title;
$artist=$songinfo-artist;
$date=$songinfo['dateplayed'];
echo $title.' --- ';
echo $artist.' --- ';
echo $date.' --- ';
echo ' /br ';
}
?
that I get ...
Question: how do you use $mylist when the xml is not as a file but is
returned on a web page?
an example of the real xml I am trying to work with is like this demo
below
Goal : when this response comes back - I would like to be able to get the
data as php and then update the database
example
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
response
result1/result
result-textSUCCESS/result-text
transaction-id1865264174/transaction-id
result-code100/result-code
authorization-code123456/authorization-code
avs-resultN/avs-result
cvv-resultN/cvv-result
action-typesale/action-type
amount12.00/amount
ip-address::1/ip-address
industryecommerce/industry
processor-idccprocessora/processor-id
currencyUSD/currency
order-descriptionSmall Order/order-description
merchant-defined-field-1Red/merchant-defined-field-1
merchant-defined-field-2Medium/merchant-defined-field-2
order-id1234/order-id
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
shipping-amount0.00/shipping-amount
billing
first-nameJohn/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
phone555-555-/phone
emailt...@example.com/email
companyAcme, Inc./company
cc-number40**0002/cc-number
cc-exp0118/cc-exp
/billing
shipping
first-nameMary/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
address2Unit #2/address2
/shipping
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure1/unit-of-measure
unit-cost5./unit-cost
quantity1./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest 2 product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure2/unit-of-measure
unit-cost2.5000/unit-cost
quantity2./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
/response
--
Thanks,
Dave - DealTek
deal...@gmail.com
[db-3]
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Sebastian Krebs krebs@gmail.com wrote:
A webpage is a file, that (usually) a browser downloads and parses. You'll
do exactly the same :-) I don't know exactly, but you can try to pass the URL
directly to simplexml_load_file(). If this doesn't work, download the content
(for example with file_get_contents()) and pass it to
simplexml_load_string(). There are obviously many other approaches, but you
should now have an idea :-)
Thanks Sebastian for the help
Actually what is happening in my case is:
page1.php is sending out to credit card company - getting processed - then
coming back to the *same page1.php* with the XML data listed below...
- so I'm not going to some other page to get it - it is coming to me to the
same page I am on..
so - after the XML result comes in - I need to assign the php to the XML
somehow...
I hope I am making myself clear
Thanks in advance for the help
Or you use a specialized library like Guzzle.
Am 19.04.2013 22:17 schrieb dealTek deal...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
newbie - just starting with trying to parse XML...
$mylist = simplexml_load_file('thelist.xml');
then use a foreach to echo the data...
?php
$mysongs = simplexml_load_file('songs.xml');
foreach ($mysongs as $songinfo) {
$title=$songinfo-title;
$artist=$songinfo-artist;
$date=$songinfo['dateplayed'];
echo $title.' --- ';
echo $artist.' --- ';
echo $date.' --- ';
echo ' /br ';
}
?
that I get ...
Question: how do you use $mylist when the xml is not as a file but is
returned on a web page?
an example of the real xml I am trying to work with is like this demo below
Goal : when this response comes back - I would like to be able to get the
data as php and then update the database
example
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
response
result1/result
result-textSUCCESS/result-text
transaction-id1865264174/transaction-id
result-code100/result-code
authorization-code123456/authorization-code
avs-resultN/avs-result
cvv-resultN/cvv-result
action-typesale/action-type
amount12.00/amount
ip-address::1/ip-address
industryecommerce/industry
processor-idccprocessora/processor-id
currencyUSD/currency
order-descriptionSmall Order/order-description
merchant-defined-field-1Red/merchant-defined-field-1
merchant-defined-field-2Medium/merchant-defined-field-2
order-id1234/order-id
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
shipping-amount0.00/shipping-amount
billing
first-nameJohn/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
phone555-555-/phone
emailt...@example.com/email
companyAcme, Inc./company
cc-number40**0002/cc-number
cc-exp0118/cc-exp
/billing
shipping
first-nameMary/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
address2Unit #2/address2
/shipping
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure1/unit-of-measure
unit-cost5./unit-cost
quantity1./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest 2 product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure2/unit-of-measure
unit-cost2.5000/unit-cost
quantity2./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
/response
--
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deal...@gmail.com
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM, dealTek deal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Sebastian Krebs krebs@gmail.com wrote:
A webpage is a file, that (usually) a browser downloads and parses. You'll
do exactly the same :-) I don't know exactly, but you can try to pass the
URL directly to simplexml_load_file(). If this doesn't work, download the
content (for example with file_get_contents()) and pass it to
simplexml_load_string(). There are obviously many other approaches, but you
should now have an idea :-)
Thanks Sebastian for the help
Actually what is happening in my case is:
page1.php is sending out to credit card company - getting processed - then
coming back to the *same page1.php* with the XML data listed below...
Please expand what you mean by sending out and coming back - is
this a REST or SOAP API call? In that case, the response body is
likely to be the XML.
- so I'm not going to some other page to get it - it is coming to me to the
same page I am on..
so - after the XML result comes in - I need to assign the php to the XML
somehow...
How do you recognize the XML result com(ing) in ?
I hope I am making myself clear
Thanks in advance for the help
Or you use a specialized library like Guzzle.
Am 19.04.2013 22:17 schrieb dealTek deal...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
newbie - just starting with trying to parse XML...
$mylist = simplexml_load_file('thelist.xml');
then use a foreach to echo the data...
?php
$mysongs = simplexml_load_file('songs.xml');
foreach ($mysongs as $songinfo) {
$title=$songinfo-title;
$artist=$songinfo-artist;
$date=$songinfo['dateplayed'];
echo $title.' --- ';
echo $artist.' --- ';
echo $date.' --- ';
echo ' /br ';
}
?
that I get ...
Question: how do you use $mylist when the xml is not as a file but is
returned on a web page?
an example of the real xml I am trying to work with is like this demo below
Goal : when this response comes back - I would like to be able to get the
data as php and then update the database
example
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
response
result1/result
result-textSUCCESS/result-text
transaction-id1865264174/transaction-id
result-code100/result-code
authorization-code123456/authorization-code
avs-resultN/avs-result
cvv-resultN/cvv-result
action-typesale/action-type
amount12.00/amount
ip-address::1/ip-address
industryecommerce/industry
processor-idccprocessora/processor-id
currencyUSD/currency
order-descriptionSmall Order/order-description
merchant-defined-field-1Red/merchant-defined-field-1
merchant-defined-field-2Medium/merchant-defined-field-2
order-id1234/order-id
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
shipping-amount0.00/shipping-amount
billing
first-nameJohn/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
phone555-555-/phone
emailt...@example.com/email
companyAcme, Inc./company
cc-number40**0002/cc-number
cc-exp0118/cc-exp
/billing
shipping
first-nameMary/first-name
last-nameSmith/last-name
address11234 Main St./address1
cityBeverly Hills/city
stateCA/state
postal90210/postal
countryUS/country
address2Unit #2/address2
/shipping
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure1/unit-of-measure
unit-cost5./unit-cost
quantity1./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
product
product-codeSKU-123456/product-code
descriptiontest 2 product description/description
commodity-codeabc/commodity-code
unit-of-measure2/unit-of-measure
unit-cost2.5000/unit-cost
quantity2./quantity
total-amount7.00/total-amount
tax-amount2.00/tax-amount
tax-rate1.00/tax-rate
discount-amount2.00/discount-amount
discount-rate1.00/discount-rate
tax-typesales/tax-type
alternate-tax-id12345/alternate-tax-id
/product
/response
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question - Parse XML with PHP...
On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, tamouse mailing lists tamouse.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
page1.php is sending out to credit card company - getting processed - then
coming back to the *same page1.php* with the XML data listed below...
Please expand what you mean by sending out and coming back - is
this a REST or SOAP API call? In that case, the response body is
likely to be the XML.
- so I'm not going to some other page to get it - it is coming to me to the
same page I am on..
so - after the XML result comes in - I need to assign the php to the XML
somehow...
How do you recognize the XML result com(ing) in ?
Hi tamouse,
with my untrained eye - it appears that this is what is 'sending out'
$data = sendXMLviaCurl($xmlRequest,$gatewayURL);
and this might be what is 'responding back' on the same page
$gwResponse = @new SimpleXMLElement((string)$data);
you can see these lines towards the bottom at - // Process Step Three...
---
the page code is long - so i cut out some extra lines - but this is
===
all page code - with edits...
?php
// API Setup Parameters
$gatewayURL = 'https://secure.webxxx.com/api/test';
$APIKey = 'xxx';
// If there is no POST data or a token-id, print the initial shopping cart form
to get ready for Step One.
if (empty($_POST['DO_STEP_1']) empty($_GET['token-id'])) {
print ' !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;';
print '
html
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 /
titleCollect non-sensitive Customer Info /title
/head
body
ph2Step One: Collect non-sensitive payment information.br //h2/p
h3 Customer Information/h3
h4 Billing Details/h4
form action= method=post
table
trtdCompany/tdtdinput type=text
name=billing-address-company value=Acme, Inc./td/tr
--- more
trtdh4br / Shipping Details/h4
--more
trtd colspan=2nbsp;/td
trtd colspan=2 align=centerTotal Amount $12.00 /td/tr
trtd colspan=2 align=centerinput type=submit value=Submit
Step Oneinput type=hidden name =DO_STEP_1 value=true/td/tr
/table
/form
/body
/html
';
}else if (!empty($_POST['DO_STEP_1'])) {
// Initiate Step One: Now that we've collected the non-sensitive payment
information, we can combine other order information and build the XML format.
$xmlRequest = new DOMDocument('1.0','UTF-8');
$xmlRequest-formatOutput = true;
$xmlSale = $xmlRequest-createElement('sale');
// Amount, authentication, and Redirect-URL are typically the bare mininum.
appendXmlNode($xmlSale,'api-key',$APIKey);
appendXmlNode($xmlSale,'redirect-url',$_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER']);
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'amount', '12.00');
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'ip-address', $_SERVER[REMOTE_ADDR]);
//appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'processor-id' , 'processora');
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'currency', 'USD');
//appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'dup-seconds' , '2');
// Some additonal fields may have been previously decided by user
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'order-id', '1234');
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'order-description', 'Small Order');
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'merchant-defined-field-1' , 'Red');
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'merchant-defined-field-2', 'Medium');
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'tax-amount' , '2.00');
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'shipping-amount' , '0.00');
/*if(!empty($_POST['customer-vault-id'])) {
appendXmlNode($xmlSale, 'customer-vault-id' ,
$_POST['customer-vault-id']);
}else {
$xmlAdd = $xmlRequest-createElement('add-customer');
appendXmlNode($xmlAdd, 'customer-vault-id' ,411);
$xmlSale-appendChild($xmlAdd);
}*/
// Set the Billing Shipping from what was collected on initial shopping
cart form
$xmlBillingAddress = $xmlRequest-createElement('billing');
appendXmlNode($xmlBillingAddress,'first-name',
$_POST['billing-address-first-name']);
//-more
//billing-address-email
appendXmlNode($xmlBillingAddress,'country',
$_POST['billing-address-country']);
appendXmlNode($xmlBillingAddress,'email', $_POST['billing-address-email']);
//more
$xmlSale-appendChild($xmlBillingAddress);
$xmlShippingAddress = $xmlRequest-createElement('shipping');
appendXmlNode($xmlShippingAddress,'first-name',
$_POST['shipping-address-first-name']);
appendXmlNode($xmlShippingAddress,'last-name',
$_POST['shipping-address-last-name']);
// more
appendXmlNode($xmlShippingAddress,'fax', $_POST['shipping-address-fax']);
$xmlSale-appendChild($xmlShippingAddress);
[PHP] Newbie question: replacing truetype fonts with UTF8 encoded Unicode characters
Greetings I have some HTML text using truetype fonts which i have to convert to UTF8 encoded unicode characters. I am just trying to replace the truetype font characters. The problem is that somehow the HTML tags also get converted to UTF8 :-( I do a lot of str_replace such as the following: $body = str_replace(þ, க்ஷ, $body); $body = str_replace(þ£, க்ஷா, $body); $body = str_replace(¬þ, க்ஷை, $body); $body = str_replace(V, க்ஷி, $body); $body = str_replace(r, க்ஷீ, $body); $body = str_replace(þ§, க்ஷு, $body); $body = str_replace(þ¨, க்ஷூ, $body); I guess i am missing something as silly as encoding the characters into certain type of strings, do the conversion and then convert to back to UTF8 How best to do this? Sorry if this is a very basic question. Thanks a lot in advance Regards Venkatesh
RE: [PHP] Newbie question. What is the best structure of a php-app?
Hi, Surely there's a wiki/doc somewhere :) But for the start: 1) plan what exactly you want to accomplish ( functionality ) 2) complexity - if simple, just throw it in one php ( like index.php ) - if more complex, you can separate the pages and/or use classes 3) based on 2), plan the structure ( I'm using mostly one entry point - index.php - with classes, templates, files included, since I like things separated ) Some thing you should not forget: - whole webapp thing is event based ( client will do something - press a link - and the server will react ) - the connection is not maintained all the time - PHP is server side (harder to debug), you cannot do anything on client side ( just push what to display ) ( JS is client side ) - you can start the session whenever you want ( it's nearly the first line of my app ), but you should control the access with variables, like if ( $_SESSION['uid'] ) or if ( $_SESSION['loggedin'] ) - most webservers interprets things between ?php ? even if the file name ends with .htm or .html - for JS and connection related things FireBug for FireFox is a good idea ( you can track, what's submitted, etc ) What I'm liking: - one entry point ( index.php ) - sub-pages, are separate php/template pairs BUT are included from index.php ( after access verification, etc ) - nearly all the functions are put in separate classes ( like user.class.php for user related things - login,logout, etc ) - using a template engine is not a very bad idea ( like Smarty ), you can separate the real code from html, which make debugging easier - at least for me :) BTW, take a look on some free stuff. You can always learn from others. There are some good ideas in open CMS systems, like Joomla. Cheers, Tom -Original Message- From: Andreas [mailto:maps...@gmx.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:39 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Newbie question. What is the best structure of a php-app? Hi, I'm fairly new to PHP but not to programming as such. Currently I sat up XAMPP with xdebug, Netbeans and Eclipse to get a feeling. I can write and run php-files but I am wondering how I should construct a more complex application that runs over several pages between a login and a logout. How would I structure such an application so that it is possible to run it in the debugger from the beginning? E.g. as a simple example I may build an index.html that has a menue with links to 3 php-files. 1) login.php 2) enter_data.php 3) list_data.php as html-links within an ul-list. The user should at first click on login where user/password gets entered an a session starts. Then the application comes back to index.html. Now he might click 2) ... Is it possible to run the whole application from the start on? index.html is no php so xdebug won't process it and therefore the IDEs may start index.html but can't show the stage where the page is just waiting e.g. for a click on login and later branch for the other options. Even if I write an index.php that shows the menue eventually the script just dumps the html that'll wait for the following clicks. Those following steps are far more likely in need to be debugged. Is it neccessary to debug those subpages separately even though they need prior steps like login.php that store some infos in a session or cookie that later scripts need to rely on? Can I somehow watch what is going on from the index.html on? Until now I just found documentation that explains the php language. Thats good too but I'd need to get an idea about the web-app-thinking that consist of just pages where the designer has to hope that the user stays within the applicationflow instead of clicking unexpectedly on the back-button or just jumping off to some other site if he likes to. In contrast to this desktop-apps seem to be less demanding because I know where a user can navigate from a certain stage within the app and I could step from program start to stop with the debugger if I feel the need to. Is there a tutorial that explains how to build consistent web-apps beyond the details of php language? regards... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question. What is the best structure of a php-app?
On 16 August 2011 09:53, Dajka Tamás vi...@vipernet.hu wrote: Hi, Surely there's a wiki/doc somewhere :) But for the start: 1) plan what exactly you want to accomplish ( functionality ) 2) complexity - if simple, just throw it in one php ( like index.php ) - if more complex, you can separate the pages and/or use classes 3) based on 2), plan the structure ( I'm using mostly one entry point - index.php - with classes, templates, files included, since I like things separated ) Some thing you should not forget: - whole webapp thing is event based ( client will do something - press a link - and the server will react ) - the connection is not maintained all the time - PHP is server side (harder to debug), you cannot do anything on client side ( just push what to display ) ( JS is client side ) - you can start the session whenever you want ( it's nearly the first line of my app ), but you should control the access with variables, like if ( $_SESSION['uid'] ) or if ( $_SESSION['loggedin'] ) - most webservers interprets things between ?php ? even if the file name ends with .htm or .html - for JS and connection related things FireBug for FireFox is a good idea ( you can track, what's submitted, etc ) What I'm liking: - one entry point ( index.php ) - sub-pages, are separate php/template pairs BUT are included from index.php ( after access verification, etc ) - nearly all the functions are put in separate classes ( like user.class.php for user related things - login,logout, etc ) - using a template engine is not a very bad idea ( like Smarty ), you can separate the real code from html, which make debugging easier - at least for me :) BTW, take a look on some free stuff. You can always learn from others. There are some good ideas in open CMS systems, like Joomla. Cheers, Tom -Original Message- From: Andreas [mailto:maps...@gmx.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:39 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Newbie question. What is the best structure of a php-app? Hi, I'm fairly new to PHP but not to programming as such. Currently I sat up XAMPP with xdebug, Netbeans and Eclipse to get a feeling. I can write and run php-files but I am wondering how I should construct a more complex application that runs over several pages between a login and a logout. How would I structure such an application so that it is possible to run it in the debugger from the beginning? E.g. as a simple example I may build an index.html that has a menue with links to 3 php-files. 1) login.php 2) enter_data.php 3) list_data.php as html-links within an ul-list. The user should at first click on login where user/password gets entered an a session starts. Then the application comes back to index.html. Now he might click 2) ... Is it possible to run the whole application from the start on? index.html is no php so xdebug won't process it and therefore the IDEs may start index.html but can't show the stage where the page is just waiting e.g. for a click on login and later branch for the other options. Even if I write an index.php that shows the menue eventually the script just dumps the html that'll wait for the following clicks. Those following steps are far more likely in need to be debugged. Is it neccessary to debug those subpages separately even though they need prior steps like login.php that store some infos in a session or cookie that later scripts need to rely on? Can I somehow watch what is going on from the index.html on? Until now I just found documentation that explains the php language. Thats good too but I'd need to get an idea about the web-app-thinking that consist of just pages where the designer has to hope that the user stays within the applicationflow instead of clicking unexpectedly on the back-button or just jumping off to some other site if he likes to. In contrast to this desktop-apps seem to be less demanding because I know where a user can navigate from a certain stage within the app and I could step from program start to stop with the debugger if I feel the need to. Is there a tutorial that explains how to build consistent web-apps beyond the details of php language? regards... I like the Zend Framework layout where the class names and file names are created according to a standard (http://groups.google.com/group/php-standards/web/psr-0-final-proposal?pli=1) And by putting the codebase outside of docroot (include_path is your friend here), you allow the framework to be used on multiple sites on the same server. For me, the only things I have in my docroot are statics (css, js, images, html) and index.php (though occasional one-shot utils will exist there). When I develop, I have 3 versions of the site (live, test and dev). www.site.com, test.site.com and dev.site.com I have separate SQL Server instances (I'm on Windows and mainly develop for MS SQL Server
[PHP] Newbie question. What is the best structure of a php-app?
Hi, I'm fairly new to PHP but not to programming as such. Currently I sat up XAMPP with xdebug, Netbeans and Eclipse to get a feeling. I can write and run php-files but I am wondering how I should construct a more complex application that runs over several pages between a login and a logout. How would I structure such an application so that it is possible to run it in the debugger from the beginning? E.g. as a simple example I may build an index.html that has a menue with links to 3 php-files. 1) login.php 2) enter_data.php 3) list_data.php as html-links within an ul-list. The user should at first click on login where user/password gets entered an a session starts. Then the application comes back to index.html. Now he might click 2) ... Is it possible to run the whole application from the start on? index.html is no php so xdebug won't process it and therefore the IDEs may start index.html but can't show the stage where the page is just waiting e.g. for a click on login and later branch for the other options. Even if I write an index.php that shows the menue eventually the script just dumps the html that'll wait for the following clicks. Those following steps are far more likely in need to be debugged. Is it neccessary to debug those subpages separately even though they need prior steps like login.php that store some infos in a session or cookie that later scripts need to rely on? Can I somehow watch what is going on from the index.html on? Until now I just found documentation that explains the php language. Thats good too but I'd need to get an idea about the web-app-thinking that consist of just pages where the designer has to hope that the user stays within the applicationflow instead of clicking unexpectedly on the back-button or just jumping off to some other site if he likes to. In contrast to this desktop-apps seem to be less demanding because I know where a user can navigate from a certain stage within the app and I could step from program start to stop with the debugger if I feel the need to. Is there a tutorial that explains how to build consistent web-apps beyond the details of php language? regards... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Newbie Question
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
At 2:16 AM -0500 1/7/11, Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:09, Bill Guion bgu...@comcast.net wrote: Fogging must be a REAL OLD Fashioned term. Please clarify. It was originally written before man invented the letter 'L', Bill. No, it was the predecessor to water-boarding. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:33 PM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:16 AM -0500 1/7/11, Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:09, Bill Guion bgu...@comcast.net wrote: Fogging must be a REAL OLD Fashioned term. Please clarify. It was originally written before man invented the letter 'L', Bill. No, it was the predecessor to water-boarding. Only in cultural america. In other countries, it's still used as a public display of punishment and humiliation. And humiliation is beneficial to no one. And spankings never did me any good anyways:) Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
At 8:16 PM -0500 1/5/11, Daniel Brown wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 19:45, David Harkness davi...@highgearmedia.com wrote: [snip!] Most companies will gladly give their product away to put it in the hands of soon-to-be-professionals. :) Tedd had his chance to be professional back in the forties (the eighteen-forties, I believe). Now he teaches others who still have a chance. ;-P Which reminds me of an old thread from back in 2008, where I posted Tedd's senior class picture. You can see it here: http://links.parasane.net/tb46 Again, you got it wrong, o' wise one -- that's a picture of my son's senior class. I'm the one on the left fogging a smart-ass who refused to get out of my chariot's way. Boy, those were the good old days when I could flog a smart-ass. Cheers, tedd PS: It's not Friday yet. -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
At 11:37 AM -0500 01/06/11, tedd wrote: At 8:16 PM -0500 1/5/11, Daniel Brown wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 19:45, David Harkness davi...@highgearmedia.com wrote: [snip!] Most companies will gladly give their product away to put it in the hands of soon-to-be-professionals. :) Tedd had his chance to be professional back in the forties (the eighteen-forties, I believe). Now he teaches others who still have a chance. ;-P Which reminds me of an old thread from back in 2008, where I posted Tedd's senior class picture. You can see it here: http://links.parasane.net/tb46 Again, you got it wrong, o' wise one -- that's a picture of my son's senior class. I'm the one on the left fogging a smart-ass who refused to get out of my Fogging must be a REAL OLD Fashioned term. Please clarify. -= Bill =- chariot's way. Boy, those were the good old days when I could flog a smart-ass. Cheers, tedd PS: It's not Friday yet. -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- Don't find fault. Find a remedy. - Henry Ford -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:09, Bill Guion bgu...@comcast.net wrote: Fogging must be a REAL OLD Fashioned term. Please clarify. It was originally written before man invented the letter 'L', Bill. Welcome back, by the way. For someone who only posts once in a [great[ while, you certainly scrutinize spelling. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
At 9:36 PM -0300 1/1/11, Adolfo Olivera wrote:
Hi,
I'm new for php. Just trying to get my hello world going on godaddy
hosting. Can't getting to work. I think sintax it's ok. I was understanding
that my shared hosting plan had php installed. Any suggestions. Thanks,
Happy 2011!!
PS: Please, feel free to educate me on how to address the mailing list,
since again, I'm new to php and not a regular user of mailing lists,
I think it's the sintax -- that's usually left to governments -- try
syntax instead.
I agree with Ash to simply use .php as the file's suffix. While you
could use .html, but it's usually hard for newbees to understand
what's happening.
So, create a file containing:
?php echo('Hello World'); ?
and save it as myfile.php
Then open your browser and put the url of the file in the address bar
and you should see Hello World.
If you don't, then post again.
Cheers,
tedd
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
At 7:43 PM -0600 1/2/11, Larry Garfield wrote: On Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:56:28 pm Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. I bounce between NetBeans and Eclipse, depending on which currently sucks less. I have yet to find a PHP IDE that doesn't suck; it's just degrees of suckage. :-) --Larry Garfield Ain't that the truth. I use GoLive 9 without all the WYSIWYG nonsense -- DW can be used in the same fashion, but it's still bloatware. I teach using NetBeans, because it generally sucks less than Eclipse. Eclipse is simply too complicated and NetBeans tries to be less, but it's still too much. I really don't understand why someone can't make a simple good editor (php, css, javascript, html) with a file management system that shows both client and server side files. I always feel I am programming with one eye closed when using NetBeans. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32, David Harkness davi...@highgearmedia.com wrote: I do have to say that NetBeans more than Eclipse will randomly become unusable for unknown reasons: disk and CPU activity spike, code-completion lags, whatever. Eclipse seems more solid in this regard. Whereas, on Linux, I've found the exact opposite to be true: NetBeans seemed to work fine, while Eclipse would lock. That said, I only use IDE's when I want to see what's new in the world, or to see if I could speed up my own development processes at all. Somehow, I always find myself back to vim, awk, sed, grep, and the like. With the exception of a few websites (Gmail usually, but not always, included), I spend my time on the command line, and have for years. GUI's, IDE's, RAD's, and so forth all have their place with some folks I just don't believe the place is with me. However, if for nothing else than to stay abreast of things, I'm going to have to check out PHPStorm. Until you mentioned it, I'd never even heard the name. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On 11-01-05 01:35 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32, David Harknessdavi...@highgearmedia.com wrote: I do have to say that NetBeans more than Eclipse will randomly become unusable for unknown reasons: disk and CPU activity spike, code-completion lags, whatever. Eclipse seems more solid in this regard. Whereas, on Linux, I've found the exact opposite to be true: NetBeans seemed to work fine, while Eclipse would lock. That said, I only use IDE's when I want to see what's new in the world, or to see if I could speed up my own development processes at all. Somehow, I always find myself back to vim, awk, sed, grep, and the like. With the exception of a few websites (Gmail usually, but not always, included), I spend my time on the command line, and have for years. GUI's, IDE's, RAD's, and so forth all have their place with some folks I just don't believe the place is with me. However, if for nothing else than to stay abreast of things, I'm going to have to check out PHPStorm. Until you mentioned it, I'd never even heard the name. I'm with you on that. I'm still using a combination of terminals, joe, and various command-line tools. Whether I'm local or remote, all of the same tools are at my fingertips. In the few cases where I need to work in a Windows environment, I just mount the filesystem (for dev anyways) over NFS and proceed as usual :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32, David Harkness davi...@highgearmedia.com wrote: I do have to say that NetBeans more than Eclipse will randomly become unusable for unknown reasons: disk and CPU activity spike, code-completion lags, whatever. Eclipse seems more solid in this regard. Whereas, on Linux, I've found the exact opposite to be true: NetBeans seemed to work fine, while Eclipse would lock. I used Eclipse on Windows and only a short while on Ubuntu, and I've used NetBeans exclusively on Ubuntu. I actually switched to using the beta and now dev builds of NetBeans because of the issues I mentioned. To this day when I'm editing PHP files, the disk is hit with every keystroke. This doesn't happen for any other file type such as Java. There's no good reason that I can think of for that, and it's quite annoying. That said, I only use IDE's when I want to see what's new in the world, or to see if I could speed up my own development processes at all. There are so many helpful additions to modern IDEs that I miss when I drop into basic editors. The key is integration. When I'm editing a file, the IDE shows me which lines have been modified, added, and removed. I can hover over the indicator to see the original text or revert the change. You can get this information outside the editor, but I find it speeds up my work to have it in one place. Of course, I often find myself using grep instead of the IDE's find in files feature. ;) Old habits die hard. I will admit that I never got to be much of an emacs or vi power user, and I'd bet they have a lot of the IDE capabilities I have grown to love. I also have poor vision requiring larger fonts for the main text area, and most IDEs (GUIs really) provide more tools for me to mitigate the problem than a fixed terminal. David
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Jan 4, 2011, at 5:27 AM, Steve Staples wrote: I now use Komodo (the free version) on my ubuntu workstation, and I love it... I dont know how I managed before. I use Komodo Edit on OS X and I love it as well, except for the compare files feature. It's the worst one I've ever used. TextWrangler is far superior for file comparisons. Marc -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:05 PM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: I spent a couple of hours reviewing PHPStorm and it looks *very* promising! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on PHPStorm. My main performance gripe with NetBeans has lessened in the year I've been using it, so I'm less inclined to go up yet another learning curve, but it's always helpful to get input on the competitors. Please let us know if you end up using it in your class as I'm sure others will enjoy reading your findings. I spent about 10 minutes looking over the feature set of Komodo which was recommended by Steve Staples in this thread, and it also looks quite impressive. it's more expensive for the IDE (the stand-alone editor is free) which does remote file-syncing ($295), but you might be able to swing an educational discount with them. Most companies will gladly give their product away to put it in the hands of soon-to-be-professionals. :) Good luck! David
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 19:45, David Harkness davi...@highgearmedia.com wrote: [snip!] Most companies will gladly give their product away to put it in the hands of soon-to-be-professionals. :) Tedd had his chance to be professional back in the forties (the eighteen-forties, I believe). Now he teaches others who still have a chance. ;-P Which reminds me of an old thread from back in 2008, where I posted Tedd's senior class picture. You can see it here: http://links.parasane.net/tb46 -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 21:10 -0500, David McGlone wrote: On Sunday, January 02, 2011 08:43:51 pm Larry Garfield wrote: On Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:56:28 pm Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. I bounce between NetBeans and Eclipse, depending on which currently sucks less. I have yet to find a PHP IDE that doesn't suck; it's just degrees of suckage. :-) I use Kate. It doesn't suck at all because it doesn't try to do the coding for you :-) -- Blessings David M. Personally, for the longest time I used EditPlus++ on windows... used it for about 4-5 years. I knew it, I liked it... then i got a job where they used ZEND (basically Eclipse yes?) I started to like it once i got the hang of it... but that job only lasted 3 weeks. ANYWAY... I now use Komodo (the free version) on my ubuntu workstation, and I love it... I dont know how I managed before. From my observations and experience, it's all about personal preferences. If the one you use works for you, and you like it, then use it. I caught flack for some time when I told people I used EditPlus ++ for all my coding, but they just didn't know how to use the features. Good luck with your coding! and finding an IDE that works for you! (or just a standard text editor like VI if you desire) Steve -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 21:10 -0500, David McGlone wrote: On Sunday, January 02, 2011 08:43:51 pm Larry Garfield wrote: On Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:56:28 pm Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. I bounce between NetBeans and Eclipse, depending on which currently sucks less. I have yet to find a PHP IDE that doesn't suck; it's just degrees of suckage. :-) I use Kate. It doesn't suck at all because it doesn't try to do the coding for you :-) -- Blessings David M. Kate is good for basic editing, but I use NetBeans for my main development, as I like the code hinting it gives you for your own class and function definitions. Incidentally, you can get Kate working on Windows if you install KDE on it, which I do at work. It gives me a setup similar to what I'm most used to at home with my Linux box. I'd avoid DreamWeaver whatever you do. Unless it's been severely improved recently, it's not a serious developers tool, more of an expensive hobbyists. It tries to hint and help too much, which really gets in the way when you're trying to write code and you know what you're doing! Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
On 1/2/2011 5:56 PM, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. While I may get shot for saying this - I wouldn't worry too much about being 100% open source. Use whatever gets the job done, period. If you're more comfortable with Dreamweaver, stick with Dreamweaver. In my day-to-day work I'll end up using a combination of Dreamweaver, Eclipse, and Notepad++, along with a little Pico/Nano to do quick edits on the server. I know a few people who swear by NetBeans, though I haven't felt the need to try yet another editor just now. I tend to prefer an editor that has code completion - sometimes makes for less typo mistakes and such, but that's just a personal preference, non-code completion is just as fine. Now, onto the real debate - editor color scheme and font choices! (Don't reply, I know better ... I just had to .)
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question
everyone I know who uses dreamweaver does so because the people that are supervising the project want to use dreamweaver, otherwise I haven't found anyone who actually liked using it. So I don't know if that actually means anything but that's the way it is. I guess it would be important to remember that as long as you clearly understand what you are doing it hardly matters whether you use notepad or something much more sophisticated, which also completes a bunch of tasks for you. I just went back and read the original post and realized the recent discussion has nothing to do with it. Awesome. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Tim Thorburn immor...@nwconx.net wrote: On 1/2/2011 5:56 PM, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. While I may get shot for saying this - I wouldn't worry too much about being 100% open source. Use whatever gets the job done, period. If you're more comfortable with Dreamweaver, stick with Dreamweaver. In my day-to-day work I'll end up using a combination of Dreamweaver, Eclipse, and Notepad++, along with a little Pico/Nano to do quick edits on the server. I know a few people who swear by NetBeans, though I haven't felt the need to try yet another editor just now. I tend to prefer an editor that has code completion - sometimes makes for less typo mistakes and such, but that's just a personal preference, non-code completion is just as fine. Now, onto the real debate - editor color scheme and font choices! (Don't reply, I know better ... I just had to .) -- Mujtaba
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Tim, I've come to learn that relying on heavy and non free ides for developing can kick you in the rear when you have to setup your developement enviroment after a while. I've have that problem with some previous projects made with adobe flex, asp.net and sql 2008. That's the reason why I'm trying to go open source all the way. But I gotta say, I've been trying vim adding a few plugins and I'm having the hardest time getting the hang of it. I really miss dreamweaver, I hope the steep learning curve pays up later. El ene 3, 2011 11:50 a.m., Tim Thorburn immor...@nwconx.net escribió: On 1/2/2011 5:56 PM, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my... While I may get shot for saying this - I wouldn't worry too much about being 100% open source. Use whatever gets the job done, period. If you're more comfortable with Dreamweaver, stick with Dreamweaver. In my day-to-day work I'll end up using a combination of Dreamweaver, Eclipse, and Notepad++, along with a little Pico/Nano to do quick edits on the server. I know a few people who swear by NetBeans, though I haven't felt the need to try yet another editor just now. I tend to prefer an editor that has code completion - sometimes makes for less typo mistakes and such, but that's just a personal preference, non-code completion is just as fine. Now, onto the real debate - editor color scheme and font choices! (Don't reply, I know better ... I just had to .)
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On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 10:00 -0500, Mujtaba Arshad wrote: I just went back and read the original post and realized the recent discussion has nothing to do with it. Awesome. Yeah, that happens sometimes! The OP changed the subject this time, so it should be OK ;) Also, if you can avoid it, please try and avoid top-posting! Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 12:03:41PM -0300, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Tim, I've come to learn that relying on heavy and non free ides for developing can kick you in the rear when you have to setup your developement enviroment after a while. I've have that problem with some previous projects made with adobe flex, asp.net and sql 2008. That's the reason why I'm trying to go open source all the way. But I gotta say, I've been trying vim adding a few plugins and I'm having the hardest time getting the hang of it. I really miss dreamweaver, I hope the steep learning curve pays up later. Vim's not for everyone. But here's the thing-- once you get it dialed in, your fingers never have to leave the main keys. Editing is way faster. And there are just a million key combinations to do things, only a fraction of which you will use. And those modes will drive you crazy for a while. I still get bitten by them, and I think every Vim user does. But again, it's way faster. Also, there's probably not a *nix server in the world which doesn't have Vi, Vim or the like installed. They may not have nano and they may not have emacs, but they will have Vi* installed. So your experience with Vim on the desktop translates into being able to operate on any *nix server. And there are Vim flavors for Windows as well, if you happen to be unfortunate enough to be running on an IIS machine. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Add this to your .htaccess file and HTML files will be handled like PHP files allowing you put PHP in HTML files. AddType application/x-httpd-php .html Richard L. Buskirk -Original Message- From: Adolfo Olivera [mailto:olivera.ado...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 8:38 PM To: Joshua Kehn Cc: robl...@aapt.net.au; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Newbie Question Sorry, here is the code. The .php extension is a requirement? Can't it b embedded on a .html file? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns= http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / titleUntitled Document/title /head body ?php $a = hello; $hello =Hello Everyone; echo $a; echo $hello; ? /body /html On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David Robley wrote: And normally would need to be saved as a .php file so the contents will be handled by php. Cheers -- David Robley A fool and his money are my two favourite people. Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177. Save the code as hello.php. Copy it to your root web directory (should be the base directory or something called public_html / www when you FTP in) and access it from youdomain.com/hello.php Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com -- Adolfo Olivera 15-3429-9743 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 11:48 -0500, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Add this to your .htaccess file and HTML files will be handled like PHP files allowing you put PHP in HTML files. AddType application/x-httpd-php .html Richard L. Buskirk -Original Message- From: Adolfo Olivera [mailto:olivera.ado...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 8:38 PM To: Joshua Kehn Cc: robl...@aapt.net.au; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Newbie Question Sorry, here is the code. The .php extension is a requirement? Can't it b embedded on a .html file? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns= http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / titleUntitled Document/title /head body ?php $a = hello; $hello =Hello Everyone; echo $a; echo $hello; ? /body /html On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David Robley wrote: And normally would need to be saved as a .php file so the contents will be handled by php. Cheers -- David Robley A fool and his money are my two favourite people. Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177. Save the code as hello.php. Copy it to your root web directory (should be the base directory or something called public_html / www when you FTP in) and access it from youdomain.com/hello.php Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com -- Adolfo Olivera 15-3429-9743 It's really best not to think about embedding PHP in an HTML file, as that isn't really how it works and it just encourages bad practices. HTML is embedded inside PHP files, not the other way around. The PHP parser interprets all the PHP code and creates the necessary output, and passes that output along with any HTML to the web server to then deliver to the client (browser). If you embedded PHP inside HTML files, the web server would have to call up the PHP parser every time you broke in and out of PHP tags, which wouldn't do at all! I wouldn't recommend having .html parsed as PHP though, as it will slow down your website/application unnecessarily for any .html files that contain no PHP code, as PHP still has to parse the file for any code, even if there is none. Leave .html files for static pages that you produce with a PHP app for example, or use MOD_REWRITE to reference PHP scripts when certain .html files are requested by the browser, as this can be a whole lot more specific and selective and won't introduce problems later on. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:48 AM, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Add this to your .htaccess file and HTML files will be handled like PHP files allowing you put PHP in HTML files. AddType application/x-httpd-php .html Richard L. Buskirk I would not recommend this approach, some perfectly valid reasons given by Ash. It's the wrong mindset to have. Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com
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The question was The .php extension is a requirement? The answer is no. While me and Ash may completely disagree on the php parser, the simple answer is there are many ways around running a non .php extension file in php. mod_rewrite rules in .htaccess files are interpreted for each request and CAN slow down things if your traffic is high. Having said that, mod_rewrite in httpd.conf is faster because it is compiled at server restart and it is native to the server. As a beginner, I completely agree with ash on bad practice rule of thumb. You will simply rewrite the html file later on wishing you had never did the hack to make it function. Richard L. Buskirk -Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:16 PM To: ad...@buskirkgraphics.com Cc: 'Adolfo Olivera'; 'Joshua Kehn'; robl...@aapt.net.au; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Newbie Question On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 11:48 -0500, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Add this to your .htaccess file and HTML files will be handled like PHP files allowing you put PHP in HTML files. AddType application/x-httpd-php .html Richard L. Buskirk -Original Message- From: Adolfo Olivera [mailto:olivera.ado...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 8:38 PM To: Joshua Kehn Cc: robl...@aapt.net.au; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Newbie Question Sorry, here is the code. The .php extension is a requirement? Can't it b embedded on a .html file? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns= http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / titleUntitled Document/title /head body ?php $a = hello; $hello =Hello Everyone; echo $a; echo $hello; ? /body /html On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David Robley wrote: And normally would need to be saved as a .php file so the contents will be handled by php. Cheers -- David Robley A fool and his money are my two favourite people. Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177. Save the code as hello.php. Copy it to your root web directory (should be the base directory or something called public_html / www when you FTP in) and access it from youdomain.com/hello.php Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com -- Adolfo Olivera 15-3429-9743 It's really best not to think about embedding PHP in an HTML file, as that isn't really how it works and it just encourages bad practices. HTML is embedded inside PHP files, not the other way around. The PHP parser interprets all the PHP code and creates the necessary output, and passes that output along with any HTML to the web server to then deliver to the client (browser). If you embedded PHP inside HTML files, the web server would have to call up the PHP parser every time you broke in and out of PHP tags, which wouldn't do at all! I wouldn't recommend having .html parsed as PHP though, as it will slow down your website/application unnecessarily for any .html files that contain no PHP code, as PHP still has to parse the file for any code, even if there is none. Leave .html files for static pages that you produce with a PHP app for example, or use MOD_REWRITE to reference PHP scripts when certain .html files are requested by the browser, as this can be a whole lot more specific and selective and won't introduce problems later on. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Jan 2, 2011, at 12:50 PM, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: The question was The .php extension is a requirement? The answer is no. While me and Ash may completely disagree on the php parser, the simple answer is there are many ways around running a non .php extension file in php. mod_rewrite rules in .htaccess files are interpreted for each request and CAN slow down things if your traffic is high. Having said that, mod_rewrite in httpd.conf is faster because it is compiled at server restart and it is native to the server. As a beginner, I completely agree with ash on bad practice rule of thumb. You will simply rewrite the html file later on wishing you had never did the hack to make it function. Richard L. Buskirk Sorry, here is the code. The .php extension is a requirement? Can't it b embedded on a .html file? _This_ question when asked from a beginner requires a non-confusing answer of yes. Can't it be embedded on a .html file? PHP is always embedded alongside HTML code within ?php ? tags. It's not embedded inside a .html file as the extension should indicate the file type. Adding a mod_rewrite rule (as you suggest) can lead to confusion later on in development. At the very least you'll look stupid re-asking Can't it be embedded... Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com
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On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 11:48 -0500, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Add this to your .htaccess file and HTML files will be handled like PHP files allowing you put PHP in HTML files. AddType application/x-httpd-php .html I wouldn't recommend having .html parsed as PHP though, as it will slow down your website/application unnecessarily for any .html files that contain no PHP code, as PHP still has to parse the file for any code, even if there is none. Leave .html files for static pages that you produce with a PHP app for example, or use MOD_REWRITE to reference PHP scripts when certain .html files are requested by the browser, as this can be a whole lot more specific and selective and won't introduce problems later on. I tend to disagree with Ashley on this topic. For many websites, I'll start out making all pages .php, even if they don't require PHP at the moment. That's for a couple reasons. 1) A few years back, there was certainly a significant performance advantage to keeping essentially static pages html. However, in my current benchmarking (using both siege and ab on my Ubuntu servers using apache with mod_php), if I use a cache such as APC and a well-configured apache server, PHP tends to perform just as well (or sometimes even better) than the html version. Rasmus has demonstrated similar performance results: http://talks.php.net/show/froscon08/24 2) I don't want to have to change urls site-wide and set up redirects from the old url whenever a page requires adding dynamic capabilities. By making all pages PHP right from the beginning, adding dynamic capabilities is a snap as I just add the functionality. Adam -- Nephtali: A simple, flexible, fast, and security-focused PHP framework http://nephtaliproject.com
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On Jan 2, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Adam Richardson wrote: I tend to disagree with Ashley on this topic. For many websites, I'll start out making all pages .php, even if they don't require PHP at the moment. That's for a couple reasons. 1) A few years back, there was certainly a significant performance advantage to keeping essentially static pages html. However, in my current benchmarking (using both siege and ab on my Ubuntu servers using apache with mod_php), if I use a cache such as APC and a well-configured apache server, PHP tends to perform just as well (or sometimes even better) than the html version. Rasmus has demonstrated similar performance results: http://talks.php.net/show/froscon08/24 2) I don't want to have to change urls site-wide and set up redirects from the old url whenever a page requires adding dynamic capabilities. By making all pages PHP right from the beginning, adding dynamic capabilities is a snap as I just add the functionality. Adam I agree starting with all .php files is good practice for basic sites. I recommend for applications and bigger then basic project using a decent framework or main routing file to handle routes for you, instead of requiring you to manually adjust them if something changes. Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. El ene 2, 2011 3:25 p.m., Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com escribió: On Jan 2, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Adam Richardson wrote: I tend to disagree with Ashley on this topic... I agree starting with all .php files is good practice for basic sites. I recommend for applications and bigger then basic project using a decent framework or main routing file to handle routes for you, instead of requiring you to manually adjust them if something changes. Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshu... PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. I use VIM and TextMate exclusively. Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com
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On Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:56:28 pm Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. I bounce between NetBeans and Eclipse, depending on which currently sucks less. I have yet to find a PHP IDE that doesn't suck; it's just degrees of suckage. :-) --Larry Garfield -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Sunday, January 02, 2011 08:43:51 pm Larry Garfield wrote: On Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:56:28 pm Adolfo Olivera wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'll just put a php on all my html containing php. A little of topic. Wich IDE are you guys using. I'm sort of in a catch twenty two here. I been alternating vim and dreamweaver. I'm trying to go 100% open source, but I really find dreamweaver easier to use so far. I bounce between NetBeans and Eclipse, depending on which currently sucks less. I have yet to find a PHP IDE that doesn't suck; it's just degrees of suckage. :-) I use Kate. It doesn't suck at all because it doesn't try to do the coding for you :-) -- Blessings David M. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Newbie Question
Hi, I'm new for php. Just trying to get my hello world going on godaddy hosting. Can't getting to work. I think sintax it's ok. I was understanding that my shared hosting plan had php installed. Any suggestions. Thanks, Happy 2011!! PS: Please, feel free to educate me on how to address the mailing list, since again, I'm new to php and not a regular user of mailing lists,
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On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Hi, I'm new for php. Just trying to get my hello world going on godaddy hosting. Can't getting to work. I think sintax it's ok. I was understanding that my shared hosting plan had php installed. Any suggestions. Thanks, Happy 2011!! PS: Please, feel free to educate me on how to address the mailing list, since again, I'm new to php and not a regular user of mailing lists, Can you post the code that you are using? It should look something like the following: ?php echo Hello World!; ? Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Joshua Kehn wrote: On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Hi, I'm new for php. Just trying to get my hello world going on godaddy hosting. Can't getting to work. I think sintax it's ok. I was understanding that my shared hosting plan had php installed. Any suggestions. Thanks, Happy 2011!! PS: Please, feel free to educate me on how to address the mailing list, since again, I'm new to php and not a regular user of mailing lists, Can you post the code that you are using? It should look something like the following: ?php echo Hello World!; ? And normally would need to be saved as a .php file so the contents will be handled by php. Cheers -- David Robley A fool and his money are my two favourite people. Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David Robley wrote: And normally would need to be saved as a .php file so the contents will be handled by php. Cheers -- David Robley A fool and his money are my two favourite people. Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177. Save the code as hello.php. Copy it to your root web directory (should be the base directory or something called public_html / www when you FTP in) and access it from youdomain.com/hello.php Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com
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Sorry, here is the code. The .php extension is a requirement? Can't it b embedded on a .html file? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns= http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / titleUntitled Document/title /head body ?php $a = hello; $hello =Hello Everyone; echo $a; echo $hello; ? /body /html On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David Robley wrote: And normally would need to be saved as a .php file so the contents will be handled by php. Cheers -- David Robley A fool and his money are my two favourite people. Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177. Save the code as hello.php. Copy it to your root web directory (should be the base directory or something called public_html / www when you FTP in) and access it from youdomain.com/hello.php Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com -- Adolfo Olivera 15-3429-9743
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On Jan 1, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Adolfo Olivera wrote: Sorry, here is the code. The .php extension is a requirement? Can't it b embedded on a .html file? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / titleUntitled Document/title /head body ?php $a = hello; $hello =Hello Everyone; echo $a; echo $hello; ? /body /html On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 1, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David Robley wrote: And normally would need to be saved as a .php file so the contents will be handled by php. Cheers -- David Robley A fool and his money are my two favourite people. Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177. Save the code as hello.php. Copy it to your root web directory (should be the base directory or something called public_html / www when you FTP in) and access it from youdomain.com/hello.php Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com Yes it _can_ be embedded alongside HTML code, but it must have the .php extension otherwise it won't be picked up as a PHP file. You could add a .htaccess rule to change the processing directive (essentially make every HTML file a PHP file) but that would be wasteful if you ever serve straight HTML. Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com
[PHP] newbie question about code
I'm looking at someone's code to learn and I'm relatively new to programming. In the code I see commands like: $code-do_command(); I'm not really sure what that means. How would that look in procedural style programming? do_command($code); or something else? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Did you mean to say That is a method call.?
Bob McConnell
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From: Joshua Kehn
That is a function call. In Java:
class Code
{
public static void function do_command(){ }
}
Code.do_command();
Regards,
-Josh
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On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Adam Williams wrote:
I'm looking at someone's code to learn and I'm relatively new to
programming. In the code I see commands like:
$code-do_command();
I'm not really sure what that means. How would that look in
procedural style programming? do_command($code); or something else?
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Bob-
Yes, yes I did.
And note that my Java code is incorrect, that should simply be public static
void, no function.
This is what I get for taking a week to code everything in Node.js.
Regards,
-Josh
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On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Did you mean to say That is a method call.?
Bob McConnell
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From: Joshua Kehn
That is a function call. In Java:
class Code
{
public static void function do_command(){ }
}
Code.do_command();
Regards,
-Josh
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On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Adam Williams wrote:
I'm looking at someone's code to learn and I'm relatively new to
programming. In the code I see commands like:
$code-do_command();
I'm not really sure what that means. How would that look in
procedural style programming? do_command($code); or something else?
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
It's object oriented code. $code is an instance of class, and do_command() is a method if that class. I'd advise reading up on oop php. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk - Reply message - From: Adam Williams adam_willi...@bellsouth.net Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 19:27 Subject: [PHP] newbie question about code To: PHP General list php-general@lists.php.net I'm looking at someone's code to learn and I'm relatively new to programming. In the code I see commands like: $code-do_command(); I'm not really sure what that means. How would that look in procedural style programming? do_command($code); or something else? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
Node.js, wouldn't that be javascript rather than java? :P
Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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From: Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 19:32
Subject: [PHP] newbie question about code
To: Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com
Cc: Adam Williams adam_willi...@bellsouth.net, PHP General list
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Bob-
Yes, yes I did.
And note that my Java code is incorrect, that should simply be public static
void, no function.
This is what I get for taking a week to code everything in Node.js.
Regards,
-Josh
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http://joshuakehn.com
On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Did you mean to say That is a method call.?
Bob McConnell
-
From: Joshua Kehn
That is a function call. In Java:
class Code
{
public static void function do_command(){ }
}
Code.do_command();
Regards,
-Josh
Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com
http://joshuakehn.com
On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Adam Williams wrote:
I'm looking at someone's code to learn and I'm relatively new to
programming. In the code I see commands like:
$code-do_command();
I'm not really sure what that means. How would that look in
procedural style programming? do_command($code); or something else?
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
Ash-
Correct, hence my typo and nomenclature slip. ;)
Regards,
-Josh
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On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:48 PM, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
Node.js, wouldn't that be javascript rather than java? :P
Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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From: Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 19:32
Subject: [PHP] newbie question about code
To: Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com
Cc: Adam Williams adam_willi...@bellsouth.net, PHP General list
php-general@lists.php.net
Bob-
Yes, yes I did.
And note that my Java code is incorrect, that should simply be public static
void, no function.
This is what I get for taking a week to code everything in Node.js.
Regards,
-Josh
Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com
http://joshuakehn.com
On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
Did you mean to say That is a method call.?
Bob McConnell
-
From: Joshua Kehn
That is a function call. In Java:
class Code
{
public static void function do_command(){ }
}
Code.do_command();
Regards,
-Josh
Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com
http://joshuakehn.com
On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Adam Williams wrote:
I'm looking at someone's code to learn and I'm relatively new to
programming. In the code I see commands like:
$code-do_command();
I'm not really sure what that means. How would that look in
procedural style programming? do_command($code); or something else?
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
At 2:27 PM -0400 9/10/10, Joshua Kehn wrote:
Adam-
That is a function call. In Java:
class Code
{
public static void function do_command(){ }
}
Code.do_command();
Regards,
-Josh
Not just Java, but does I've seen this in several languages.
Javascript is one. But realize that Java is to Javascript as Ham is
to Hamster. In other words, the two aren't related.
Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
This is what I get for taking a week to code everything in Node.js. It is a Friday, so I'll let my curiosity get the best of me and ask a follow-up on something non-PHP. What insights/impressions do you have regarding Node.js after a week of working with it? Thanks, Adam -- Nephtali: PHP web framework that functions beautifully http://nephtaliproject.com
Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
I would check this out to give you a decent understanding of php's oop. http://php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.php Chris. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Adam Williams adam_willi...@bellsouth.netwrote: I'm looking at someone's code to learn and I'm relatively new to programming. In the code I see commands like: $code-do_command(); I'm not really sure what that means. How would that look in procedural style programming? do_command($code); or something else? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
Adam- It is unique. I'm writing code that really can't be done any other way. How it handles events, sockets, etc is exceptional. The best part is everything now is JavaScript. The server (Node.js) is written in JavaScript. MongoDB is JavaScript. The frontend used to manage the WebSocket is entirely JavaScript. I have essentially replaced J2EE as the backend with Node and I couldn't be happier. Of course standard JavaScript woes apply. Debugging is a royal pain in the ass. Your code can and will suddenly fail due to odd strange errors. There are stability concerns with Node, it is version 0.2 after all. It won't replace PHP or Java as an enterprise level solution, but it does fill in the gaps very nicely. Regards, -Josh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com On Sep 10, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Adam Richardson wrote: This is what I get for taking a week to code everything in Node.js. It is a Friday, so I'll let my curiosity get the best of me and ask a follow-up on something non-PHP. What insights/impressions do you have regarding Node.js after a week of working with it? Thanks, Adam -- Nephtali: PHP web framework that functions beautifully http://nephtaliproject.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] newbie question about code
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: Adam- It is unique. I'm writing code that really can't be done any other way. How it handles events, sockets, etc is exceptional. The best part is everything now is JavaScript. The server (Node.js) is written in JavaScript. MongoDB is JavaScript. The frontend used to manage the WebSocket is entirely JavaScript. I have essentially replaced J2EE as the backend with Node and I couldn't be happier. Of course standard JavaScript woes apply. Debugging is a royal pain in the ass. Your code can and will suddenly fail due to odd strange errors. There are stability concerns with Node, it is version 0.2 after all. It won't replace PHP or Java as an enterprise level solution, but it does fill in the gaps very nicely. Regards, -Josh Thanks for the insights, Josh. I've been intrigued by Node.js and it's architectural implications, and your feedback helps as I evaluate potential projects/experiments going forward. Excellent point about the debugging relative to other environments. Palm's inclusion of Node.js in webOS 2.0 does help provide more confidence in the code-base, even if it is relatively early in the development cycle, so I guess I'll have to start tinkering soon :) Thanks again, Adam -- Nephtali: PHP web framework that functions beautifully http://nephtaliproject.com
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question about Conditionals
On 31 March 2010 05:45, Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote:
That explains it perfectly, thanks you!
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all!
This is probably my second post on the list, so please be gentle. Right
now
I am running through the Heads First PHP and MySQL book from O'Reilly.
It's been quite enjoyable so far, but I have some questions about some of
the code they're using in one of the chapters.
Basically the code is retreiving rows from a DB, and I'm just not getting
the explanation of how it works.
Here's the code:
$result=mysqli_query($dbc,$query)
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)){
echo $row['first_name'].' '.$row['last_name'].' : '. $row['email'] . 'br
/';
}
Now, I know what it does, but I don't understand how the conditional
statement in the while loop works. Isn't an assignment operation always
going to result in a true condition? Even if
mysqli_fetch_array($result)
returned empty values (or null) wouldn't the actual assignment to $row
still
be considered a true statement? I would have sworn that assignment
operations ALWAYS equated to true if used in conditional operations.
Please help explain! :)
Thanks so much!
-Matty
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-fetch-array.php
Returns an array of strings that corresponds to the fetched row, or
FALSE if there are no more rows.
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)) is equivalent to this:
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
while ($row){
// do something
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
}
So, if $row is not equal to FALSE, the loop will happens.
Another part to the answer is the value of the assignment. From the
documentation (http://docs.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.assignment.php),
...
The value of an assignment expression is the value assigned.
while($row = mysqli_fetch_array($result))
But there is a significant issue here. Whilst not attributable to the
mysqli_fetch_array() function, it is certainly possible to give
yourself a significant WTF moment with it.
May be will be easier to see the problem when the code is written as ...
while(False === ($row = mysqli_fetch_array($result)))
No?
If I say ...
0 == False
does that help?
Without running the 2 stupid scripts below, what output should you get?
?php while($pos = strpos('abc', 'a')) { echo 'a';} ?
and
?php while($pos = strpos('abc', 'z')) { echo 'z';} ?
Clearly, they should be different, yes?
Unfortunately, they won't be.
The first call returns 0 and the second returns False.
And as 0 == False, the while() does not loop.
But ...
?php while(False !== ($pos = strpos('abc', 'a'))) { echo 'a';} ?
and
?php while(False !== ($pos = strpos('abc', 'z'))) { echo 'z';} ?
now operate correctly. The first one runs forever, printing a's and
the second one quits straight away.
By always using ...
while(False !== ($var = function($param)))
you can clearly differentiate between functions that return false to
indicate failure and 0 to indicate a position or actual value.
Regards,
Richard.
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question about Conditionals
After looking up the === operator, I see exactly what you mean. Thanks for
your help everyone. I think the confusion was that I was always under the
impression that assignment is either true or false; I would never have
guessed it was equal to the value assigned. Your examples really helped to
solidify the concept though!
PS: I have to say that PHP has the *best* documentation I've ever seen
beside Java.
Thanks again!
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Richard Quadling
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On 31 March 2010 05:45, Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote:
That explains it perfectly, thanks you!
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all!
This is probably my second post on the list, so please be gentle.
Right
now
I am running through the Heads First PHP and MySQL book from
O'Reilly.
It's been quite enjoyable so far, but I have some questions about some
of
the code they're using in one of the chapters.
Basically the code is retreiving rows from a DB, and I'm just not
getting
the explanation of how it works.
Here's the code:
$result=mysqli_query($dbc,$query)
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)){
echo $row['first_name'].' '.$row['last_name'].' : '. $row['email'] .
'br
/';
}
Now, I know what it does, but I don't understand how the conditional
statement in the while loop works. Isn't an assignment operation
always
going to result in a true condition? Even if
mysqli_fetch_array($result)
returned empty values (or null) wouldn't the actual assignment to $row
still
be considered a true statement? I would have sworn that assignment
operations ALWAYS equated to true if used in conditional operations.
Please help explain! :)
Thanks so much!
-Matty
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-fetch-array.php
Returns an array of strings that corresponds to the fetched row, or
FALSE if there are no more rows.
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)) is equivalent to this:
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
while ($row){
// do something
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
}
So, if $row is not equal to FALSE, the loop will happens.
Another part to the answer is the value of the assignment. From the
documentation (
http://docs.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.assignment.php),
...
The value of an assignment expression is the value assigned.
while($row = mysqli_fetch_array($result))
But there is a significant issue here. Whilst not attributable to the
mysqli_fetch_array() function, it is certainly possible to give
yourself a significant WTF moment with it.
May be will be easier to see the problem when the code is written as ...
while(False === ($row = mysqli_fetch_array($result)))
No?
If I say ...
0 == False
does that help?
Without running the 2 stupid scripts below, what output should you get?
?php while($pos = strpos('abc', 'a')) { echo 'a';} ?
and
?php while($pos = strpos('abc', 'z')) { echo 'z';} ?
Clearly, they should be different, yes?
Unfortunately, they won't be.
The first call returns 0 and the second returns False.
And as 0 == False, the while() does not loop.
But ...
?php while(False !== ($pos = strpos('abc', 'a'))) { echo 'a';} ?
and
?php while(False !== ($pos = strpos('abc', 'z'))) { echo 'z';} ?
now operate correctly. The first one runs forever, printing a's and
the second one quits straight away.
By always using ...
while(False !== ($var = function($param)))
you can clearly differentiate between functions that return false to
indicate failure and 0 to indicate a position or actual value.
Regards,
Richard.
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[PHP] Newbie Question about Conditionals
Hey all!
This is probably my second post on the list, so please be gentle. Right now
I am running through the Heads First PHP and MySQL book from O'Reilly.
It's been quite enjoyable so far, but I have some questions about some of
the code they're using in one of the chapters.
Basically the code is retreiving rows from a DB, and I'm just not getting
the explanation of how it works.
Here's the code:
$result=mysqli_query($dbc,$query)
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)){
echo $row['first_name'].' '.$row['last_name'].' : '. $row['email'] . 'br
/';
}
Now, I know what it does, but I don't understand how the conditional
statement in the while loop works. Isn't an assignment operation always
going to result in a true condition? Even if mysqli_fetch_array($result)
returned empty values (or null) wouldn't the actual assignment to $row still
be considered a true statement? I would have sworn that assignment
operations ALWAYS equated to true if used in conditional operations.
Please help explain! :)
Thanks so much!
-Matty
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question about Conditionals
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all!
This is probably my second post on the list, so please be gentle. Right now
I am running through the Heads First PHP and MySQL book from O'Reilly.
It's been quite enjoyable so far, but I have some questions about some of
the code they're using in one of the chapters.
Basically the code is retreiving rows from a DB, and I'm just not getting
the explanation of how it works.
Here's the code:
$result=mysqli_query($dbc,$query)
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)){
echo $row['first_name'].' '.$row['last_name'].' : '. $row['email'] . 'br
/';
}
Now, I know what it does, but I don't understand how the conditional
statement in the while loop works. Isn't an assignment operation always
going to result in a true condition? Even if mysqli_fetch_array($result)
returned empty values (or null) wouldn't the actual assignment to $row still
be considered a true statement? I would have sworn that assignment
operations ALWAYS equated to true if used in conditional operations.
Please help explain! :)
Thanks so much!
-Matty
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-fetch-array.php
Returns an array of strings that corresponds to the fetched row, or
FALSE if there are no more rows.
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)) is equivalent to this:
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
while ($row){
// do something
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
}
So, if $row is not equal to FALSE, the loop will happens.
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question about Conditionals
That explains it perfectly, thanks you!
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all!
This is probably my second post on the list, so please be gentle. Right
now
I am running through the Heads First PHP and MySQL book from O'Reilly.
It's been quite enjoyable so far, but I have some questions about some of
the code they're using in one of the chapters.
Basically the code is retreiving rows from a DB, and I'm just not getting
the explanation of how it works.
Here's the code:
$result=mysqli_query($dbc,$query)
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)){
echo $row['first_name'].' '.$row['last_name'].' : '. $row['email'] . 'br
/';
}
Now, I know what it does, but I don't understand how the conditional
statement in the while loop works. Isn't an assignment operation always
going to result in a true condition? Even if
mysqli_fetch_array($result)
returned empty values (or null) wouldn't the actual assignment to $row
still
be considered a true statement? I would have sworn that assignment
operations ALWAYS equated to true if used in conditional operations.
Please help explain! :)
Thanks so much!
-Matty
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-fetch-array.php
Returns an array of strings that corresponds to the fetched row, or
FALSE if there are no more rows.
while($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)) is equivalent to this:
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
while ($row){
// do something
$row=mysqli_fetch_array($result);
}
So, if $row is not equal to FALSE, the loop will happens.
[PHP] newbie question - php parsing
Hi all,
A little doubt caught me while I was writing this snippet of code for
a wordpress template:
?php if (the_title('','',FALSE) != 'Home') { ?
h2 class=entry-header?php the_title(); ?/h2
?php } ?
I always thought that php was called only between the ?php ? tags,
and I'm pretty sure that's right, while HTML code was simply wrote in
document as is, without further logic.
Now, I can't figure out how this snippet works: I mean, shouldn't HTML
code be simply put on document, as it is outside php invoke?
Effectively if the title of page is 'Home', the HTML part is totally
skipped.
Is the if construct that does all the magic inside?
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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
I pasted your example in and it doesn't work for me (again, newbie). I will play with it and see if I can get it working. My main goal is to have Ruby-like URL's vs ?var=3425. Is this possible with .php (without mod_rewrite / something in the http server?) Thanks, Ethan On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Ethan Whitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how to achieve this. How can I grab a portion of a URl to send to a .php script in this fashion? www.test.com/article/3435 - Grab the 3435 to process in a script? take a look at the $_SERVER superglobal array, http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php most likely you are looking for, $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], but it really depends on what you want out of the url, so make sure to read through the options, and their explanations. those values are just strings, so its quite easy to extract portions of the string using a variety of techniques. for example, give the url in your question (suppose we find it in $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']) $lastPath = substr($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], strrpos($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']), '/') + 1); // $lastPath = '3435' -nathan
RE: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
Have you tried CodeIgniter http://www.codeigniter.com? Not as restrictive as many MVC frameworks and very easy to work with. What you wish to achieve can be done with one line. $myvar = $this-uri-segment(2); http://codeigniter.com/user_guide/libraries/uri.html Likely not to everyone's taste but on a personal level I think it's one of the better MVCs about. Bob. -Original Message- From: Ethan Whitt Sent: 19 June 2008 17:19 To: Nathan Nobbe Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ? I pasted your example in and it doesn't work for me (again, newbie). I will play with it and see if I can get it working. My main goal is to have Ruby-like URL's vs ?var=3425. Is this possible with .php (without mod_rewrite / something in the http server?) Thanks, Ethan On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Ethan Whitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how to achieve this. How can I grab a portion of a URl to send to a .php script in this fashion? www.test.com/article/3435 - Grab the 3435 to process in a script? take a look at the $_SERVER superglobal array, http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php most likely you are looking for, $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], but it really depends on what you want out of the url, so make sure to read through the options, and their explanations. those values are just strings, so its quite easy to extract portions of the string using a variety of techniques. for example, give the url in your question (suppose we find it in $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']) $lastPath = substr($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], strrpos($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']), '/') + 1); // $lastPath = '3435' -nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
Ethan, you can try this: $url = www.test.com/article/3435; echo basename($url); another solution is that you can use explode() function to seprate your url from '/' or you can use regex to parse your url - Jignesh On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Ethan Whitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pasted your example in and it doesn't work for me (again, newbie). I will play with it and see if I can get it working. My main goal is to have Ruby-like URL's vs ?var=3425. Is this possible with .php (without mod_rewrite / something in the http server?) Thanks, Ethan On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Ethan Whitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how to achieve this. How can I grab a portion of a URl to send to a .php script in this fashion? www.test.com/article/3435 - Grab the 3435 to process in a script? take a look at the $_SERVER superglobal array, http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php most likely you are looking for, $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], but it really depends on what you want out of the url, so make sure to read through the options, and their explanations. those values are just strings, so its quite easy to extract portions of the string using a variety of techniques. for example, give the url in your question (suppose we find it in $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']) $lastPath = substr($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], strrpos($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']), '/') + 1); // $lastPath = '3435' -nathan
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried CodeIgniter http://www.codeigniter.com? Not as restrictive as many MVC frameworks and very easy to work with. What you wish to achieve can be done with one line. $myvar = $this-uri-segment(2); right, and if you look at the implementation there, you can see usage of mod_rewrite and the $_SERVER array. what i was trying to convey is that OP will need some way to access the url that has been requested by the client. the $_SERVER array is the only way i know of; if there are other ways im always up for learning something new. -nathan
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Ethan Whitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I pasted your example in and it doesn't work for me (again, newbie). I
will play with it and see if I can get it working. My main goal is to have
Ruby-like URL's vs ?var=3425. Is this possible with .php (without
mod_rewrite / something in the http server?)
i just typed it into the browser so it could have some mistakes. well to
answer your question, yes, you can use external redirects from php, and if
you store the query string (part of url past ?) then it can be made
accessible to whatever file youve redirected the client to. so like, a
client request a page, say,
http://youresite.com/somedir?a=5b=6
in somedir, on your webserver, you just put an index.php file. then in
there, you do something like put the values $_GET['a'] and $_GET['b'] in
some persistent storage, like $_SESSION, a db, or just in a file somewhere.
then you use header to redirect the client to a url that doenst have the
query string, something like
if(!empty($_GET)) {
/// store $_GET vars
header('Location: http://yoursite.com/somedir');
} else {
/// check storage location for vars to load
/// make sure to filter said vars !
}
while this approach is effective, i consider it messy / inefficient /
cumbersome, and personally favor mod_rewrite. if you look into code igniter
or other frameworks, you can see how they are managing the implementation of
pretty urls. most of them will favor mod_rewrite, but offer an alternative
for people who dont want to use it or dont have access to it (because of
hosting provider for example). so you might dig into some open source code
for a nice tested solution to your problem.
and digging through open source code can just be so much fun ;D
-nathan
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
You could just use an apache (or other web server) alias:
www.test.com/article - www.test.com/article.php
where article.php uses:
?php
$uri_vars = explode('/', $_SERVER['PATH_INFO']); foreach ($uri_vars as
$var)
if ($var != )
echo $var . br;
?
[PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
Not sure how to achieve this. How can I grab a portion of a URl to send to a .php script in this fashion? www.test.com/article/3435 - Grab the 3435 to process in a script? Thanks in advance! Ethan
Re: [PHP] Newbie Question: How to pass URL info to .php script ?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Ethan Whitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how to achieve this. How can I grab a portion of a URl to send to a .php script in this fashion? www.test.com/article/3435 - Grab the 3435 to process in a script? take a look at the $_SERVER superglobal array, http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php most likely you are looking for, $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], but it really depends on what you want out of the url, so make sure to read through the options, and their explanations. those values are just strings, so its quite easy to extract portions of the string using a variety of techniques. for example, give the url in your question (suppose we find it in $_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']) $lastPath = substr($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'], strrpos($_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']), '/') + 1); // $lastPath = '3435' -nathan
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
Daniel Brown has written on 4/16/2008 5:20 PM:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do I need both from_addr and field_4 (Email Address)? Could I just use
$from = $_POST['field_4']?
Sorry, I noticed it after I started rewriting the form processor,
and then forgot to edit the email accordingly.
That's correct. Where I placed the $_POST['from_addr'] stuff,
just replace it with $_POST['field_4']. And then, of course, you can
ignore the HTML field-adding section of my previous email
OK. Here's what I have now for processor.php:
?php
//
$where_form_is=http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].strrev(strstr(strrev($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']),/));
$where_form_is =
http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].dirname($_SERVER['PHP_SELF'])./;
if (mail($to, $from, $subject, $body)) {
echo(pMessage successfully sent!/p);
} else {
echo(pMessage delivery failed.../p);
}
$to = [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED];
$subject = SUBSCRIBE;
$from = $_POST['field_4'];
$body = Form data:
Name: .$_POST['field_1'].
Street Address: .$_POST['field_2'].
Phone Number: .$_POST['field_3'].
Email Address: .$_POST['field_4'].
powered by phpFormGenerator, but fixed by PHP-General!;
$headers = From: \.$_POST['field_1'].\ .$_POST['from_addr'].\r\n;
$headers .= X-Mailer: PHP/.phpversion().\r\n;
include(confirm.html);
?
I don't get either of the echo statements, and the emails are not being
delivered.
What did I omit?
Thanks.
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Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip!]
OK. Here's what I have now for processor.php:
?php
//
$where_form_is=http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].strrev(strstr(strrev($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']),/));
$where_form_is =
http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].dirname($_SERVER['PHP_SELF'])./;
if (mail($to, $from, $subject, $body)) {
echo(pMessage successfully sent!/p);
} else {
echo(pMessage delivery failed.../p);
}
[snip!]
I'll reiterate:
Note the mail() parameters. There's no header information there.
RTFM: http://php.net/mail
You just have your mail() function wrong. Reiterating my code as
well (with updated field_4 data):
?php
$where_form_is =
http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].dirname($_SERVER['PHP_SELF'])./;
$to = [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED];
$subject = SUBSCRIBE;
$from = $_POST['field_4'];
$body = Form data:
Name: .$_POST['field_1'].
Street Address: .$_POST['field_2'].
Phone Number: .$_POST['field_3'].
Email Address: .$_POST['field_4'].
powered by phpFormGenerator, but fixed by PHP-General!;
$headers = From: \.$_POST['field_1'].\ .$_POST['field_4'].\r\n;
$headers .= X-Mailer: PHP/.phpversion().\r\n;
include(confirm.html);
?
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Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
Daniel Brown has written on 4/17/2008 12:29 PM: I'll reiterate: Note the mail() parameters. There's no header information there. RTFM: http://php.net/mail You just have your mail() function wrong. Reiterating my code as well (with updated field_4 data): ?php $where_form_is = http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].dirname($_SERVER['PHP_SELF'])./; $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]; $subject = SUBSCRIBE; $from = $_POST['field_4']; $body = Form data: Name: .$_POST['field_1']. Street Address: .$_POST['field_2']. Phone Number: .$_POST['field_3']. Email Address: .$_POST['field_4']. powered by phpFormGenerator, but fixed by PHP-General!; $headers = From: \.$_POST['field_1'].\ .$_POST['field_4'].\r\n; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP/.phpversion().\r\n; include(confirm.html); ? OK. I don't see a mail() in your code. Would it be mail($to, $subject, $body, $headers); ? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. I don't see a mail() in your code. Would it be mail($to, $subject, $body, $headers); ? Entirely my fault, Pete. I'm a moron sometimes. Could've sworn it was in there. Sorry about that. Yes, you've got it exactly right. -- /Daniel P. Brown Dedicated Servers - Intel 2.4GHz w/2TB bandwidth/mo. starting at just $59.99/mo. with no contract! Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
Ooops! processor.php is now: ?php $where_form_is = http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].dirname($_SERVER['PHP_SELF'])./; $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]; $subject = SUBSCRIBE; //$from = $_POST['field_4']; == this was the culprit $body = Form data: Name: .$_POST['field_1']. Street Address: .$_POST['field_2']. Phone Number: .$_POST['field_3']. Email Address: .$_POST['field_4']. powered by phpFormGenerator, but fixed by PHP-General!; $headers = From: \.$_POST['field_1'].\ .$_POST['field_4'].\r\n; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP/.phpversion().\r\n; mail($to, $from, $subject, $body); include(confirm.html); ? AND IT WORKS!! 1E6 thank yous!! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1E6 thank yous!! My TI SR-10 couldn't handle that calculation and blew up in my hand. ;-P -- /Daniel P. Brown Dedicated Servers - Intel 2.4GHz w/2TB bandwidth/mo. starting at just $59.99/mo. with no contract! Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Newbie question about sending email
I wanted a form for people in my community to use to subscribe to a yahoo group that I run. Not being a PHP programmer, I created the form with phpFormGenerator from SourceForge. It works fine except that the email that gets sent to yahoo appears to come from my web host's domain! How can I change things so that the email appears to come from the email address that is entered in the form? Thanks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted a form for people in my community to use to subscribe to a yahoo group that I run. Not being a PHP programmer, I created the form with phpFormGenerator from SourceForge. It works fine except that the email that gets sent to yahoo appears to come from my web host's domain! How can I change things so that the email appears to come from the email address that is entered in the form? Make sure that the From:, Reply-To:, and Return-Path: headers are correctly set in the form processing code, that the headers in general are properly constructed, and that your host allows aliased sending by configuration (some MTA configurations only allow a single address, to reduce SPAM and such). -- /Daniel P. Brown Ask me about: Dedicated servers starting @ $59.99/mo., VPS starting @ $19.99/mo., and shared hosting starting @ $2.50/mo. Unmanaged, managed, and fully-managed! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
Daniel Brown has written on 4/16/2008 4:04 PM: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted a form for people in my community to use to subscribe to a yahoo group that I run. Not being a PHP programmer, I created the form with phpFormGenerator from SourceForge. It works fine except that the email that gets sent to yahoo appears to come from my web host's domain! How can I change things so that the email appears to come from the email address that is entered in the form? Make sure that the From:, Reply-To:, and Return-Path: headers are correctly set in the form processing code, that the headers in general are properly constructed, and that your host allows aliased sending by configuration (some MTA configurations only allow a single address, to reduce SPAM and such). The entire processor.php file is: ?php $where_form_is=http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].strrev(strstr(strrev($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']),/)); mail([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],SUBSCRIBE,Form data: Name: . $_POST['field_1'] . Street Address: . $_POST['field_2'] . Phone Number: . $_POST['field_3'] . Email Address: . $_POST['field_4'] . powered by phpFormGenerator. ); include(confirm.html); ? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The entire processor.php file is: ?php $where_form_is=http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].strrev(strstr(strrev($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']),/)); mail([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],SUBSCRIBE,Form data: Name: . $_POST['field_1'] . Street Address: . $_POST['field_2'] . Phone Number: . $_POST['field_3'] . Email Address: . $_POST['field_4'] . powered by phpFormGenerator. ); include(confirm.html); ? Note the mail() parameters. There's no header information there. In your HTML form, add the following field (dress up the HTML as needed to fit with your form): input type=text name=from_addr Then, change the email processing code to the following: ?php $where_form_is = http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].dirname($_SERVER['PHP_SELF'])./; $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]; $subject = SUBSCRIBE; $from = $_POST['from_addr']; $body = Form data: Name: .$_POST['field_1']. Email: .$_POST['from_addr']. Street Address: .$_POST['field_2']. Phone Number: .$_POST['field_3']. Email Address: .$_POST['field_4']. powered by phpFormGenerator, but fixed by PHP-General!; $headers = From: \.$_POST['field_1'].\ .$_POST['from_addr'].\r\n; $headers .= X-Mailer: PHP/.phpversion().\r\n; include(confirm.html); ? Keep in mind, though, that there's no validation and no SPAM protection there, but if you're letting Yahoo! manage the group, it's not *quite* as big of a deal. You may notice SPAM coming through to the @pobox.com address from the form though. -- /Daniel P. Brown Dedicated Servers - Intel 2.4GHz w/2TB bandwidth/mo. starting at just $59.99/mo. with no contract! Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
Daniel Brown has written on 4/16/2008 4:56 PM: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The entire processor.php file is: ?php $where_form_is=http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].strrev(strstr(strrev($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']),/)); mail([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],SUBSCRIBE,Form data: Name: . $_POST['field_1'] . Street Address: . $_POST['field_2'] . Phone Number: . $_POST['field_3'] . Email Address: . $_POST['field_4'] . powered by phpFormGenerator. ); include(confirm.html); ? Note the mail() parameters. There's no header information there. In your HTML form, add the following field (dress up the HTML as needed to fit with your form): input type=text name=from_addr Then, change the email processing code to the following: ?php $where_form_is = http://.$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].dirname($_SERVER['PHP_SELF'])./; $to = [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]; $subject = SUBSCRIBE; $from = $_POST['from_addr']; $body = Form data: Name: .$_POST['field_1']. Email: .$_POST['from_addr']. Street Address: .$_POST['field_2']. Phone Number: .$_POST['field_3']. Email Address: .$_POST['field_4']. Why do I need both from_addr and field_4 (Email Address)? Could I just use $from = $_POST['field_4']? Thanks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question about sending email
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Pete Holsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do I need both from_addr and field_4 (Email Address)? Could I just use $from = $_POST['field_4']? Sorry, I noticed it after I started rewriting the form processor, and then forgot to edit the email accordingly. That's correct. Where I placed the $_POST['from_addr'] stuff, just replace it with $_POST['field_4']. And then, of course, you can ignore the HTML field-adding section of my previous email. -- /Daniel P. Brown Dedicated Servers - Intel 2.4GHz w/2TB bandwidth/mo. starting at just $59.99/mo. with no contract! Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RES: [PHP] Newbie question, Which way is best?
De: George J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So calling the script via the form works i.e it passes the neccessary variables to constrct the sql query for the next call. As Shawn said, if you really need the query again add it to session, never, NEVER give the user the ability to see/execute queries by himself (remember POST data could be easily manipulated). Remember what Daniel said, adding a DELETE FROM is not hard and veeery bad. If the user clicks one of the pagination links, that calls itself, all that is passed is the page=$i variable. I need to include the 'SELECT * FROM...' query either as a string or an array of seperate values for the changed query. Ok, let me ask you something. Why post to itself? You could have a script only to do form actions, that way you can: 1 Separate huge php validations with your html form. 2 Use functions to handle the incoming data and writing the new query (or the old one again). As it's built at server side, the user is never going to see your query or [1]manipulate it as you're writing it all over again, just using your old parameters (they could be added as hidden fields in the form if strictly necessary). So, as I see it, the pagination links won't POST the form variables. How do I pass the 'SELECT * FROM mytable WHERE selection=option LIMIT start, range' query to the called script? You should try building a default query where you only add the parameters given by the user. If you can't seem to recover that, add them to $_SESSION and you'll be fine next time you want them (if you don't overwrite it =] ). George Welcome and keep asking :) [1] As long as you treat the user input properly, as other said. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question, Which way is best?
On Mar 19, 2008, at 5:13 PM, George J wrote:
Hi Jason,
Hope this helps -
my 'display_products.php' script
--
form method='post' action='display_products.php'
...
input type='hidden' name= 'query' value=$query
input type='submit' Value='Go'/td
...
// pagination routine
conditional code...
}else{
echo(a href=\display_products.php?page=$i\img src=$st border=
\0\
/a );
}
---
So calling the script via the form works i.e it passes the neccessary
variables to constrct the sql query for the next call. If the user
clicks
one of the pagination links, that calls itself, all that is passed
is the
page=$i variable. I need to include the 'SELECT * FROM...' query
either as a
string or an array of seperate values for the changed query.
So, as I see it, the pagination links won't POST the form variables.
How do
I pass the 'SELECT * FROM mytable WHERE selection=option LIMIT
start, range'
query
to the called script?
George
I don't know if anyone has answered the question you have asked at
least twice... How do I pass the query to the next page? Here's how
I would approach it. Don't pass the query - all you need is the page
number. This code hasn't been tested, but I think you'll get the idea.
?php
// thispage.php
if (isset ($_POST['submitted'])) {
$resultsPerPage = 50; // or whatever value
$page = mysql_real_escape_string ($_POST['page']);
$start = ($page * $resultsPerPage) - $resultsPerPage;
$length = $start + $resultsPerPage;
// Notice how you don't send the query in the POST or GET, just
the page number
$sql = SELECT `field` FROM `table` WHERE (`field_a` =
'someValue') LIMIT $start, $length;
$results = mysql_query ($sql);
}
// Go to next page
$page = $_POST['page'] ? (int) $_POST['page'] + 1 : 1;
?
...
form method=post action=thispage.php
input type=submit value=Go /
input type=hidden name=page value=?php echo htmlentities
($page); ? /
input type=hidden name=submitted value=1 /
/form
...
?php
while ($row = mysql_fetch_array ($results, MYSQL_ASSOC)) {
// Display results
}
?
Hopefully that helps a little bit.
~Philip
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[PHP] newbie question about one php script passing control to another
Hello. I am new to php programming, but have spent many years programming in many other languages, most recently perl (with which php seems to have much in common!). In every other language I've worked with there is a way for one program to pass control to another. However, so far in all of the books and other documentation I've looked at for php, I cannot find a way for one php program to pass control to another. Is this possible in php, and, if so, please let me know how. Thank you. Rod Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question, Which way is best?
Thiago Pojda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
De: George J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
So calling the script via the form works i.e it passes the
neccessary variables to constrct the sql query for the next
call.
As Shawn said, if you really need the query again add it to session,
never,
NEVER give the user the ability to see/execute queries by himself
(remember
POST data could be easily manipulated). Remember what Daniel said, adding
a
DELETE FROM is not hard and veeery bad
OK. I see the logic.
Ok, let me ask you something. Why post to itself? You could have a script
only to do form actions, that way you can:
1 Separate huge php validations with your html form.
2 Use functions to handle the incoming data and writing the new query (or
the old one again).
I suspect that most folk in my position start the learning process by
finding a script that does a similar task and adapting it. This is basically
what I've done. I started by finding a form example and then added a
pagination routine then... Several deadends later... Not the best way to
write anything but the simplest of scripts. However, the numerous changes to
the code has entailed lots of learning during the process. So in answer to
your question. I didn't set out with any idea of the best way to write the
script. Just a broad idea of what I wanted to end up with.
As it's built at server side, the user is never going to see your query or
[1]manipulate it as you're writing it all over again, just using your old
parameters (they could be added as hidden fields in the form if strictly
necessary).
So, as I see it, the pagination links won't POST the form
variables. How do I pass the 'SELECT * FROM mytable WHERE
selection=option LIMIT start, range'
query to the called script?
You should try building a default query where you only add the parameters
given by the user. If you can't seem to recover that, add them to
$_SESSION
and you'll be fine next time you want them (if you don't overwrite it
=] ).
My query code-
---SQL query construction block
$query = SELECT * FROM prods ;
if($catagory != 0){ //
if category != 0
$where=WHERE c = $catagory ;
if ($manu != 0){ // check
manu != 0
$and = AND m = $manu ;
if ($searchstring != 0){
$and = $and.AND description LIKE \%$searchstring%\ ; //
check like != 0
}
}else{
...
$query=$query.$where.$and.$like
---
Can you please explain your suggestion above in laymans terms. I can't see
what you have in mind. Is it your suggestion to use one script, containing a
from, that calls another script that handles my query construction? That far
I follow you but what happens next?
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RE: [PHP] newbie question about one php script passing control to another
Im not sure I understand the question.
Pass control from index.php to welcome.php ???
index.php : ? echo form action=welcome.php method=postinput type=hidden
name=tagme value=yesinput type=submit value='Continue'/form; ?
welcome.php ? if($_POST['tagme'] == yes){
echo Congrats you are there;}ELSE{echo You failed;}
?
That kind of pass control?
Hello. I am new to php programming, but have spent many years
programming in many other languages, most recently perl (with which php
seems to have much in common!). In every other language I've worked
with there is a way for one program to pass control to another.
However, so far in all of the books and other documentation I've looked
at for php, I cannot find a way for one php program to pass control to
another. Is this possible in php, and, if so, please let me know how.
Thank you.
Rod Clay
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about one php script passing control to another
Yes, let me try to say more about exactly what I'm trying to do. I have
a php script running in a browser window (opened specifically for this
purpose) in which the user keys a blog item, then hits 'submit.' After
this script has successfully added the new blog item to the database,
what I'd like to do is automatically close this window, and pass control
to the php script that displays the updated list of blog items (with of
course the newly added blog item) in the original browser window (the
window the user was looking at when s/he clicked on the 'Add a blog'
link).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im not sure I understand the question.
Pass control from index.php to welcome.php ???
index.php : ? echo form action=welcome.php method=postinput type=hidden name=tagme
value=yesinput type=submit value='Continue'/form; ?
welcome.php ? if($_POST['tagme'] == yes){
echo Congrats you are there;}ELSE{echo You failed;}
?
That kind of pass control?
Hello. I am new to php programming, but have spent many years
programming in many other languages, most recently perl (with which php
seems to have much in common!). In every other language I've worked
with there is a way for one program to pass control to another.
However, so far in all of the books and other documentation I've looked
at for php, I cannot find a way for one php program to pass control to
another. Is this possible in php, and, if so, please let me know how.
Thank you.
Rod Clay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about one php script passing control to another
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Rod Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, let me try to say more about exactly what I'm trying to do. I have a php script running in a browser window (opened specifically for this purpose) in which the user keys a blog item, then hits 'submit.' After this script has successfully added the new blog item to the database, what I'd like to do is automatically close this window, and pass control to the php script that displays the updated list of blog items (with of course the newly added blog item) in the original browser window (the window the user was looking at when s/he clicked on the 'Add a blog' link). That would be more of a JavaScript issue, really. Have the user click a link to refresh the parent and close the child. On a different note, you probably got made fun of pretty often for you name (especially last-name-first), eh? My father's name was Dick --- no joke. Yeah he got hell all the time. ;-P -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie question, Which way is best?
George J wrote:
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So calling the script via the form works i.e it passes the
neccessary variables to constrct the sql query for the next
call.
As Shawn said, if you really need the query again add it to session,
never,
NEVER give the user the ability to see/execute queries by himself
(remember
POST data could be easily manipulated). Remember what Daniel said, adding
a
DELETE FROM is not hard and veeery bad
OK. I see the logic.
Ok, let me ask you something. Why post to itself? You could have a script
only to do form actions, that way you can:
1 Separate huge php validations with your html form.
2 Use functions to handle the incoming data and writing the new query (or
the old one again).
I suspect that most folk in my position start the learning process by
finding a script that does a similar task and adapting it. This is basically
what I've done. I started by finding a form example and then added a
pagination routine then... Several deadends later... Not the best way to
write anything but the simplest of scripts. However, the numerous changes to
the code has entailed lots of learning during the process. So in answer to
your question. I didn't set out with any idea of the best way to write the
script. Just a broad idea of what I wanted to end up with.
As it's built at server side, the user is never going to see your query or
[1]manipulate it as you're writing it all over again, just using your old
parameters (they could be added as hidden fields in the form if strictly
necessary).
So, as I see it, the pagination links won't POST the form
variables. How do I pass the 'SELECT * FROM mytable WHERE
selection=option LIMIT start, range'
query to the called script?
You should try building a default query where you only add the parameters
given by the user. If you can't seem to recover that, add them to
$_SESSION
and you'll be fine next time you want them (if you don't overwrite it
=] ).
My query code-
---SQL query construction block
$query = SELECT * FROM prods ;
if($catagory != 0){ //
if category != 0
$where=WHERE c = $catagory ;
if ($manu != 0){ // check
manu != 0
$and = AND m = $manu ;
if ($searchstring != 0){
$and = $and.AND description LIKE \%$searchstring%\ ; //
check like != 0
}
}else{
...
$query=$query.$where.$and.$like
---
Can you please explain your suggestion above in laymans terms. I can't see
what you have in mind. Is it your suggestion to use one script, containing a
from, that calls another script that handles my query construction? That far
I follow you but what happens next?
What file is this? is the pagination code in this file also? If not
where? Post you pagination code and this is a simple explanation.
Build your query as you've done and stick it in a session var. It is
now available to future calls to this page or other pages.
-Shawn
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Re: [PHP] Newbie question, Which way is best?
Hi Shawn,
My query code-
---SQL query construction block
$query = SELECT * FROM prods ;
if($catagory != 0){
//
if category != 0
$where=WHERE c = $catagory ;
if ($manu != 0){ //
check
manu != 0
$and = AND m = $manu ;
if ($searchstring != 0){
$and = $and.AND description LIKE \%$searchstring%\ ;
//
check like != 0
}
}else{
...
$query=$query.$where.$and.$like
---
Can you please explain your suggestion above in laymans terms. I can't
see
what you have in mind. Is it your suggestion to use one script,
containing a
from, that calls another script that handles my query construction? That
far
I follow you but what happens next?
What file is this? is the pagination code in this file also? If not
where? Post you pagination code and this is a simple explanation.
Build your query as you've done and stick it in a session var. It is
now available to future calls to this page or other pages.
-Shawn
The above code was included in post to show how query is constructed.
Heres my pagination code.
---
if($page 1){ // if number of pages 1 then display 'Previous' button
$pageprev = $page-1;
echo(a href=\display_products.php?page=$pageprev\img
src=\btnprevenabled.gif\ ALT=\Previous\ border=\0\ /a );
}else{
echo(img src=\btnprevdisnabled.gif\ ALT=\Previous\border=\0\
);
}
//
$numpages = $totalrows / $show; //$show holds number of items to display per
page
// display a button for each page with current page showing disabled button
for($i = 1; $i = $numpages; $i++){
$str1=btn_;
$str2=$i;
if($i == $page){
$str3=$str1.$str2.disabled.gif;
echo(img src=$str3 border=\0\ );
}else{
$str3=$str1.$str2._enabled.gif;
echo(a href=\displayproducts.php?page=$i\img src=$str3
border=\0\ /a );
}
}
// if last page is less than full
if(($totalrows % $show) != 0){
$str2=$i;
if($i == $page){
$str3=$str1.$str2.disabled.gif;
echo(img src=$str3 border=\0\ );//$i );
}else{
$str3=$str1.$str2.enabled.gif;
echo(a href=\displayproducts.php?page=$i\img src=$str3
border=\0\ /a );//$i/a );
}
}
// Display the enabled or disabled 'Next' button
if(($totalrows - ($show * $page)) 0){
//$str3=$str1.$str2.disabled.gif;
$pagenext =$page+1;
echo(a href=\displayproducts.php?page=$pagenext\img
src=\btnnextenabled.gif\ border=\0\ /a);//$i/a );
}else{
$pagenext =$page+1;
echo(img src=\btnnextdisabled.gif\ ALT=\Next\border=\0\
);
}
?
/td/font/tr/table
---
Thanks for sticking with me.
George
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about one php script passing control to another
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:08:39PM -0400, Rod Clay wrote:
Hello. I am new to php programming, but have spent many years
programming in many other languages, most recently perl (with which
php seems to have much in common!). In every other language I've
worked with there is a way for one program to pass control to
another. However, so far in all of the books and other documentation
I've looked at for php, I cannot find a way for one php program to
pass control to another. Is this possible in php, and, if so, please
let me know how. Thank you.
This may be what you are looking for:
include('next_program');
exit();
If you do this, you have to keep in mind that all the variables you set
in the first program are *still* set in the second.
This is useful when your first program needs to choose which of two or
more programs to run next depending on its calculations. For example, if
your first program does error checking then it might want to run an
all_ok program or an edit program.
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Re: [PHP] newbie question about one php script passing control to another
At 12:08 PM -0400 3/20/08, Rod Clay wrote: Hello. I am new to php programming, but have spent many years programming in many other languages, most recently perl (with which php seems to have much in common!). In every other language I've worked with there is a way for one program to pass control to another. However, so far in all of the books and other documentation I've looked at for php, I cannot find a way for one php program to pass control to another. Is this possible in php, and, if so, please let me know how. Thank you. Rod Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rod: If what you mean is one program to launch another, then look at this: http://webbytedd.com/bb/php-run-php/ If you want to pass variables, there's several ways to do that -- but, that's a different question. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
