On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:37:23AM -0400, tedd wrote:
>
> Think about it -- why are all languages are looking more and more
> alike? Why is it that you can jump from versions of BASIC to C, C++,
> php, JAVA, javascript and others and not find yourself in a
> completely foreign environment? You t
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:16, tedd wrote:
>
> That's Okay, I just say it better than you. :-)
Show-off.
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At 9:07 AM -0400 6/10/09, Robert Cummings wrote:
Daniel Brown wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:59, Robert Cummings wrote:
Don't you have VB applications to write?
And this after I just mentioned your name in another thread
without throwing up in my mouth.
You've finally got those gag r
At 8:53 AM -0400 6/10/09, Daniel Brown wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:37, tedd wrote:
Beside, this is how languages evolve. There is no job that any tool is
designed for. The "job" is our current perception of the task at hand and
that is always changing.
That's the point I was tryi
Daniel Brown wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:59, Robert Cummings wrote:
Don't you have VB applications to write?
And this after I just mentioned your name in another thread
without throwing up in my mouth.
You've finally got those gag reflexes under control... call me!!
*wink wink* *n
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 08:53 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:37, tedd wrote:
> >
> > Beside, this is how languages evolve. There is no job that any tool is
> > designed for. The "job" is our current perception of the task at hand and
> > that is always changing.
>
> That
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:59, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> Don't you have VB applications to write?
And this after I just mentioned your name in another thread
without throwing up in my mouth.
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Daniel Brown wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:37, tedd wrote:
Beside, this is how languages evolve. There is no job that any tool is
designed for. The "job" is our current perception of the task at hand and
that is always changing.
That's the point I was trying to get at in the email I wr
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:37, tedd wrote:
>
> Beside, this is how languages evolve. There is no job that any tool is
> designed for. The "job" is our current perception of the task at hand and
> that is always changing.
That's the point I was trying to get at in the email I wrote last
night t
At 2:28 AM +0100 6/10/09, Michael wrote:
The standard PHP execution model is geared almost exclusively
towards web-used (though crons etc. are reasonable)... that is, to
sit in/with a server and handle requests... to operate over, at
maximum, "insane" lifespans of 30 seconds.
There are langua
At 11:49 AM -0400 6/8/09, Daniel Brown wrote:
>On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:48, tedd wrote:
>> Hi gang:
>>
>> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I
>> am not aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask
>> directly -- can php be used to create a Mac A
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:48:23AM +0100, Michael wrote:
> This was about half of my point, writing these applications in PHP is
> difficult, it is a task to be overcome. PHP requires cajoling into being
> useful. Your solution to "use the Java extension" is peculiarly ironic -
> yes: Use Java!
>
Michael wrote:
Robert Cummings wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>> "Languages were designed to be programmed, what they are programmed to
>> do is entirely up to the programmer."
>>
>> Perhaps there is no hope then. This is so distant from the actual case
>> it does not require more than pointing ou
Robert Cummings wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>> "Languages were designed to be programmed, what they are programmed to
>> do is entirely up to the programmer."
>>
>> Perhaps there is no hope then. This is so distant from the actual case
>> it does not require more than pointing out.
>>
>> If you want t
Michael wrote:
"Languages were designed to be programmed, what they are programmed to
do is entirely up to the programmer."
Perhaps there is no hope then. This is so distant from the actual case
it does not require more than pointing out.
If you want to write demons in php fine, i wince at t
"Languages were designed to be programmed, what they are programmed to
do is entirely up to the programmer."
Perhaps there is no hope then. This is so distant from the actual case
it does not require more than pointing out.
If you want to write demons in php fine, i wince at the thought.
The
Michael wrote:
This was about half of my point, writing these applications in PHP is
difficult, it is a task to be overcome. PHP requires cajoling into being
useful. Your solution to "use the Java extension" is peculiarly ironic -
yes: Use Java!
If the only language you know is PHP i'm sure i
Michael wrote:
Robert Cummings wrote:
Michael wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 09:30:18AM -0700, Kyle Terry wrote:
I don't mean to be the thread spirit killer, but I think another
language
would be better for this. Such as Python.
PHP desktop apps might be fun to h
Daniel Brown wrote:
> Hate to police threads here, but please don't top-post.
Apologies, my client was not configured properly. Hopefully it is
threading now, if not please notify me.
Michael
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 21:48, Michael wrote:
> This was about half of my point, writing these applications in PHP is
> difficult, it is a task to be overcome. PHP requires cajoling into being
> useful. Your solution to "use the Java exten
This was about half of my point, writing these applications in PHP is
difficult, it is a task to be overcome. PHP requires cajoling into being
useful. Your solution to "use the Java extension" is peculiarly ironic -
yes: Use Java!
If the only language you know is PHP i'm sure it looks very cap
While the technology is pretty immature at the moment, due to its under-use
no doubt, saying that PHP is never the tool for a desktop application is
pretty inane. While the primary developmental lifecycle is geared towards
web development (who's arguing that?), there's nothing really pervasive
pre
Robert Cummings wrote:
Michael wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 09:30:18AM -0700, Kyle Terry wrote:
I don't mean to be the thread spirit killer, but I think another
language
would be better for this. Such as Python.
PHP desktop apps might be fun to hack around with, b
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 20:42, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> From my POV, better than writing "Programmed desktop applications in VB".
> But that's just my POV :)
Did I happen to tell you that's what I've been doing all day, or
are you just *that* good at making me miserable --- even when it's not
Michael wrote:
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 09:30:18AM -0700, Kyle Terry wrote:
I don't mean to be the thread spirit killer, but I think another
language
would be better for this. Such as Python.
PHP desktop apps might be fun to hack around with, but I wouldn't use
it fo
Kyle Terry wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Robert Cummings wrote:
Kyle Terry wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:48 AM, tedd wrote:
Hi gang:
I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am
not
aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -
Depends on how you look at it, I'd take the perspective that that's a
non-normal approach to the language and demonstrates a fuller understanding
of the language. Same as if you put (and I do) "wrote an asynchronous
socket server in PHP." Despite the position PHP developers are usually
applying f
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Robert Cummings wrote:
> Kyle Terry wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:48 AM, tedd wrote:
>>
>> Hi gang:
>>>
>>> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am
>>> not
>>> aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask direct
Paul M Foster wrote:
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 09:30:18AM -0700, Kyle Terry wrote:
I don't mean to be the thread spirit killer, but I think another language
would be better for this. Such as Python.
PHP desktop apps might be fun to hack around with, but I wouldn't use it for
a production appli
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 09:30:18AM -0700, Kyle Terry wrote:
> I don't mean to be the thread spirit killer, but I think another language
> would be better for this. Such as Python.
>
> PHP desktop apps might be fun to hack around with, but I wouldn't use it for
> a production application.
I've
Larry Garfield wrote:
On Monday 08 June 2009 12:34:40 pm Robert Cummings wrote:
Matty Sarro wrote:
Real men use perl ;)
When I was younger my dad told me real men drink their coffee black... I
tried it for a month and then I told him real men choose their own path
in life.
Cheers,
Rob.
Mind
On 6/8/09 4:26 PM, "Dee Ayy" wrote:
> Not as smooth as Xcode and Interface Builder eh?
no
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On Monday 08 June 2009 12:34:40 pm Robert Cummings wrote:
> Matty Sarro wrote:
> > Real men use perl ;)
>
> When I was younger my dad told me real men drink their coffee black... I
> tried it for a month and then I told him real men choose their own path
> in life.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
Mind if I use
> Not as smooth as Xcode and Interface Builder eh?
I had interesting results with my first custom MyApp.app bundle.
>From
>http://developer.apple.com/documentation/CoreFOundation/Conceptual/CFBundles/Concepts/BundleAnatomy.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20001119-104977-TPXREF4
I made a new folder named
> I'm used to an IDE where you write code, run, and debug it. When you get it
> where you want and want to create an application, then you compile the code
> and there's an application -- a stand alone application -- done!
You may be looking for glade http://glade.gnome.org/
It's in MacPorts as gl
At 11:49 AM -0400 6/8/09, Daniel Brown wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:48, tedd wrote:
Hi gang:
I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
php be used to create a Mac Application?
tedd wrote:
> Hi gang:
>
> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I
> am not aware of specifically how that can be done.
> So, let me ask directly -- can php be used to create a Mac
> Application?
Dunno about Macs, but I use PHP for command line scripting all the ti
Bastien Koert wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
Eric Butera wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Robert Cummings
wrote:
Matty Sarro wrote:
Real men use perl ;)
When I was younger my dad told me real men drink their coffee black... I
tried it for a month and then
On 6/8/09 12:30 PM, "Kyle Terry" wrote:
> I don't mean to be the thread spirit killer, but I think another language
> would be better for this. Such as Python.
>
> PHP desktop apps might be fun to hack around with, but I wouldn't use it for
> a production application.
if there were a cocoa inte
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
> Eric Butera wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Robert Cummings
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Matty Sarro wrote:
Real men use perl ;)
>>>
>>> When I was younger my dad told me real men drink their coffee black... I
>>> tried it for a m
tedd,
You can check out MacPorts http://www.macports.org/ and the port
package php5-gtk
But Xcode and Interface Builder are your friends for native/fast apps.
Although you probably get Cross-OS portability going the php-gtk route.
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Eric Butera wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
Matty Sarro wrote:
Real men use perl ;)
When I was younger my dad told me real men drink their coffee black... I
tried it for a month and then I told him real men choose their own path in
life.
Cheers,
Rob.
Yeah wel
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
> Matty Sarro wrote:
>>
>> Real men use perl ;)
>
> When I was younger my dad told me real men drink their coffee black... I
> tried it for a month and then I told him real men choose their own path in
> life.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
>
> --
> PHP Ge
Matty Sarro wrote:
Real men use perl ;)
When I was younger my dad told me real men drink their coffee black... I
tried it for a month and then I told him real men choose their own path
in life.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Hi,
>> Real men use perl ;)
>
> 's/Real men/Masochists'
There's always VB...
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:33, Matty Sarro wrote:
> Real men use perl ;)
's/Real men/Masochists'
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Kyle Terry wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:48 AM, tedd wrote:
>
> > Hi gang:
> >
> > I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am
> not
> > aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly --
>
Kyle Terry wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:48 AM, tedd wrote:
Hi gang:
I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
php be used to create a Mac Application?
If so, how?
Cheers,
tedd
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:48 AM, tedd wrote:
> Hi gang:
>
> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
> aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
> php be used to create a Mac Application?
>
> If so, how?
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd
>
>
>
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:53, Richard Heyes wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
>> aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
>> php be used to create a Mac Application?
>>
>> If so, how?
>
> Don't know about
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:48, tedd wrote:
> Hi gang:
>
> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
> aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
> php be used to create a Mac Application?
>
> If so, how?
Probably the most well-kn
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:51, Bastien Koert wrote:
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bastien
>
> Cat, the other other white meat
Hey, Bastien the other other white meat got your tongue.
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Hi,
> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
> aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
> php be used to create a Mac Application?
>
> If so, how?
Don't know about Mac specifically, but with *nix in general it can be
used to c
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, tedd wrote:
> Hi gang:
>
> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
> aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
> php be used to create a Mac Application?
>
> If so, how?
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd
>
>
>
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, tedd wrote:
> Hi gang:
>
> I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I am not
> aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask directly -- can
> php be used to create a Mac Application?
>
> If so, how?
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd
>
>
>
Hi gang:
I've heard that php can be used for more than web programming, but I
am not aware of specifically how that can be done. So, let me ask
directly -- can php be used to create a Mac Application?
If so, how?
Cheers,
tedd
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> I can't say for sure, but I'm betting that APC doesn't support the
version of PHP that you are > trying to use. Specifically, I don't
think it supports PHP5+
Correct, APC is currently PHP4 only.
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Evert | Rooftop wrote:
Chris Shiflett wrote:
Danny Brow wrote:
> Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
> it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
> visit the Zend website.
Any free ones?
http://pecl.php.net/package/APC
APC won't work for
Evert | Rooftop wrote:
Chris Shiflett wrote:
Danny Brow wrote:
> Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
> it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
> visit the Zend website.
Any free ones?
http://pecl.php.net/package/APC
APC won't work for
Chris Shiflett wrote:
Danny Brow wrote:
> Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
> it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
> visit the Zend website.
Any free ones?
http://pecl.php.net/package/APC
APC won't work for me, segmentation fault
On Tue, May 17, 2005 1:50 pm, Greg Donald said:
> On 5/17/05, Brent Baisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
>> it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
>> visit the Zend website.
>
> Did you have a link
Danny Brow wrote:
> Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
> it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
> visit the Zend website.
Any free ones?
http://pecl.php.net/package/APC
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On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 15:34 -0400, Brent Baisley wrote:
> Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
> it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
> visit the Zend website.
>
Any free ones?
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On 5/17/05, Brent Baisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
> it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
> visit the Zend website.
Did you have a link for this 'compiler' ? All I see in the site menu
is a
On Tue, May 17, 2005 7:27 am, Brian Dunning said:
> My background is mostly with Lasso. One cool feature is the ability
> to make "LassoApps" - single file applications that are secure and
> can be sold & distributed without providing access to the source.
> Does PHP offer any such capability?
No.
Zend sells a compiler to speed up your PHP code. Since it's compiled,
it also does not contain the source code in readable form. You should
visit the Zend website.
On May 17, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Brian Dunning wrote:
Hi all -
My background is mostly with Lasso. One cool feature is the ability to
Hi all -
My background is mostly with Lasso. One cool feature is the ability
to make "LassoApps" - single file applications that are secure and
can be sold & distributed without providing access to the source.
Does PHP offer any such capability?
- Brian
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