Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-06 Thread tedd

At 7:44 PM -0700 8/5/09, Michael A. Peters wrote:

Miller, Terion wrote:
Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on 
this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a 
front end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see 
meneed backend programming..I'm trying...

Stop being such a egomaniacal dickhead, a social life may do you good.


If your job description does not include php development, and they 
are asking you to do it, then ask them to pay for the necessary 
books for you to learn PHP or do not accept the assignment, pointing 
out that you are not a PHP developer.


If you job description includes php development, then you need to 
know what you are doing.



Yeah, that's a bit like your employer saying Here's a gun, shoot the 
bad guys.


First, you don't know how to shoot a gun and second you don't know 
who the bad guys are. That's a recipe for disaster.


Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-05 Thread Michael A. Peters

Miller, Terion wrote:

Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on this list, 
I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front end designer, need 
graphics , need a css layout...see meneed backend programming..I'm trying...
Stop being such a egomaniacal dickhead, a social life may do you good.


If your job description does not include php development, and they are 
asking you to do it, then ask them to pay for the necessary books for 
you to learn PHP or do not accept the assignment, pointing out that you 
are not a PHP developer.


If you job description includes php development, then you need to know 
what you are doing.


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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Miller, Terion
THANKFULLY THE BOSS DECIDED TO YELL AT ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PROBLEM WASI 
HAVE NEVER BEEN SO STRESSED IN MY LIFE
SHOULD WORK BE THIS AWFUL? IT’S HARD ENOUGH WORKING IN A MALE DOMINATED FIELD, 
BUT WHEN THEY START USING THEIR LARGE FRAMES AND BOOMING VOICES OMG GOD...I 
JUST MAY HAVE TO CRY LIKE THE GIRL I AM. SHIT.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS HAVING A MELTDOWN...AND FOR THE LIST THE PROBLEM WAS HERE:

/ Main controller which page to show. if (isset($_GET['letter'])) {   
browse($_GET['letter']); } else {   browse('A'); }

On 8/4/09 9:30 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
 for($i = 0; $i = 9; $iﯯ)

I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line number!)
I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=n, but seems
to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know if I
find anything else.

Thanks,
Ash
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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:40 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
 THANKFULLY THE BOSS DECIDED TO YELL AT ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PROBLEM 
 WASI HAVE NEVER BEEN SO STRESSED IN MY LIFE
 SHOULD WORK BE THIS AWFUL? IT’S HARD ENOUGH WORKING IN A MALE DOMINATED 
 FIELD, BUT WHEN THEY START USING THEIR LARGE FRAMES AND BOOMING VOICES OMG 
 GOD...I JUST MAY HAVE TO CRY LIKE THE GIRL I AM. SHIT.
 SORRY FOR THE CAPS HAVING A MELTDOWN...AND FOR THE LIST THE PROBLEM WAS HERE:
 
 / Main controller which page to show. if (isset($_GET['letter'])) {   
 browse($_GET['letter']); } else {   browse('A'); }
 
 On 8/4/09 9:30 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
  for($i = 0; $i = 9; $iﯯ)
 
 I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line number!)
 I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=n, but seems
 to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know if I
 find anything else.
 
 Thanks,
 Ash
 http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
 
 
Ah, doesn't sound good there. Have you thought about saying something to
him, to just try and explain how you feel? You shouldn't have to feel
bullied at work, no matter what sex you are.

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Miller, Terion



---snip

Was going to say the exact same thing.  No one should have to put up with that 
crap.

I suggest if this was a normal occurrence, a chat with him would be a start.  
If you get nowhere with that, a trip to HR would be good.

Shouting at someone is counter-productive, and there more you put up with it, 
the more your boss will feel empowerment over you,

Regards,
Kevin


Thanks guys!! I actually do have an appt with HR at 2pm today.  And his yelling 
fix didn't fix it at all...now it just displays default A listings on all 
pages which is what he does NOT want4 minutes until my deadline...guess I 
won't make this one.  Think I will go be a bartender and florist again..that's 
how I got thru college..so much less stressI'm going to start using the 
pastebin for my code I can't figure out my settings I tell it text but it seems 
to jumble it anyways
So if anyone wants to have a look here is the link for the script

http://pastebin.ca/1517966

I don't get why the $_SERVER['browse.php'] stopped working

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:58 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
 
 
 ---snip
 
 Was going to say the exact same thing.  No one should have to put up with 
 that crap.
 
 I suggest if this was a normal occurrence, a chat with him would be a start.  
 If you get nowhere with that, a trip to HR would be good.
 
 Shouting at someone is counter-productive, and there more you put up with it, 
 the more your boss will feel empowerment over you,
 
 Regards,
 Kevin
 
 
 Thanks guys!! I actually do have an appt with HR at 2pm today.  And his 
 yelling fix didn't fix it at all...now it just displays default A listings 
 on all pages which is what he does NOT want4 minutes until my 
 deadline...guess I won't make this one.  Think I will go be a bartender and 
 florist again..that's how I got thru college..so much less stressI'm 
 going to start using the pastebin for my code I can't figure out my settings 
 I tell it text but it seems to jumble it anyways
 So if anyone wants to have a look here is the link for the script
 
 http://pastebin.ca/1517966
 
 I don't get why the $_SERVER['browse.php'] stopped working
 
What do you get if you do a print_r($_SERVER); ?

Thanks,
Ash
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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Bastien Koert
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Miller,
Teriontmil...@springfi.gannett.com wrote:



 ---snip

 Was going to say the exact same thing.  No one should have to put up with 
 that crap.

 I suggest if this was a normal occurrence, a chat with him would be a start.  
 If you get nowhere with that, a trip to HR would be good.

 Shouting at someone is counter-productive, and there more you put up with it, 
 the more your boss will feel empowerment over you,

 Regards,
 Kevin


 Thanks guys!! I actually do have an appt with HR at 2pm today.  And his 
 yelling fix didn't fix it at all...now it just displays default A listings 
 on all pages which is what he does NOT want4 minutes until my 
 deadline...guess I won't make this one.  Think I will go be a bartender and 
 florist again..that's how I got thru college..so much less stressI'm 
 going to start using the pastebin for my code I can't figure out my settings 
 I tell it text but it seems to jumble it anyways
 So if anyone wants to have a look here is the link for the script

 http://pastebin.ca/1517966

 I don't get why the $_SERVER['browse.php'] stopped working

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What is the goal to show when there is nothing chosen (currently
resulting in your default 'A' listing)

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Miller, Terion



On 8/4/09 10:03 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:

print_r($_SERVER);

I get:

Array ( [HTTP_HOST] = getpublished.news-leader.com [HTTP_USER_AGENT] = 
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.13) 
Gecko/2009073021 Firefox/3.0.13 [HTTP_ACCEPT] = 
text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 
[HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] = en-us,en;q=0.5 [HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING] = gzip,deflate 
[HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET] = ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 [HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE] = 
300 [HTTP_CONNECTION] = keep-alive [HTTP_REFERER] = 
http://getpublished.news-leader.com/ResturantInspections/restaurants.php?show=all
 [HTTP_COOKIE] = 
GCIONID=TExITWZPTUtlZElNQUZrdjlWdkZVQkNOQk1CTEZLKzk3RWEzbENYWE81MD1+MX4yMDA5MDgwNH4yfnppcDo2NTgwN3x5b2I6MTk2OHxnZW46MXxjb3U6dXN8c2l0OmdwYXBlcjE3MQ==;
 anonId=72bd6954-d270-402a-a4d5-10f109166cef; rsi_ct=2009_8_4:51; 
PHPSESSID=ak6iv296ca08bj4eilbjjr0vd7; 
GCIONSN=cmVmOjB+bmQxOiU3QiUyMkxldmVsMU5vZGUlMjIlM0ElMjIlMjIlMkMlMjJMZXZlbDJOb2RlJTIyJTNBJTIyJTIyJTJDJTIyTmV3Q2xpY2slMjIlM0FmYWxzZSUyQyUyMlVSTCUyMiUzQSUyMmh0dHAlM0EvL2dldHB1Ymxpc2hlZC5uZXdzLWxlYWRlci5jb20vUmVzdHVyYW50SW5zcGVjdGlvbnMvdmlldy5waHAlM0ZJRCUzRDExMzclMjIlN0R+bmQyOm51bGw=;
 s_sq=%5B%5BB%5D%5D; s_cc=true; REVSCISN=true [HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL] = max-age=0 
[PATH] = /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin [SERVER_SIGNATURE] =
Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server at getpublished.news-leader.com Port 80
[SERVER_SOFTWARE] = Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) [SERVER_NAME] = 
getpublished.news-leader.com [SERVER_ADDR] = 64.29.29.40 [SERVER_PORT] = 80 
[REMOTE_ADDR] = 64.22.254.4 [DOCUMENT_ROOT] = 
/var/www/vhosts/getpublished.news-leader.com/httpdocs [SERVER_ADMIN] = 
rjas...@springfi.gannett.com [SCRIPT_FILENAME] = 
/var/www/vhosts/getpublished.news-leader.com/httpdocs/ResturantInspections/view.php
 [REMOTE_PORT] = 30353 [GATEWAY_INTERFACE] = CGI/1.1 [SERVER_PROTOCOL] = 
HTTP/1.1 [REQUEST_METHOD] = GET [QUERY_STRING] = ID=1137 [REQUEST_URI] = 
/ResturantInspections/view.php?ID=1137 [SCRIPT_NAME] = 
/ResturantInspections/view.php [PHP_SELF] = /ResturantInspections/view.php 
[REQUEST_TIME] = 1249398440 )

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Miller, Terion



On 8/4/09 10:04 AM, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Miller,
Teriontmil...@springfi.gannett.com wrote:



 ---snip

---snip-

 http://pastebin.ca/1517966

 I don't get why the $_SERVER['browse.php'] stopped working

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What is the goal to show when there is nothing chosen (currently
resulting in your default 'A' listing)

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yep the current goal is that when the user first lands on the page browse.php 
it will default to show the 'a' listings, on other pages no listings unless a 
menu option is selected will show.




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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 08:08 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
 
 
 On 8/4/09 10:03 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
 
 print_r($_SERVER);
 
 I get:
 
 Array ( [HTTP_HOST] = getpublished.news-leader.com [HTTP_USER_AGENT] = 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.13) 
 Gecko/2009073021 Firefox/3.0.13 [HTTP_ACCEPT] = 
 text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 
 [HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] = en-us,en;q=0.5 [HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING] = 
 gzip,deflate [HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET] = ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 
 [HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE] = 300 [HTTP_CONNECTION] = keep-alive [HTTP_REFERER] = 
 http://getpublished.news-leader.com/ResturantInspections/restaurants.php?show=all
  [HTTP_COOKIE] = 
 GCIONID=TExITWZPTUtlZElNQUZrdjlWdkZVQkNOQk1CTEZLKzk3RWEzbENYWE81MD1+MX4yMDA5MDgwNH4yfnppcDo2NTgwN3x5b2I6MTk2OHxnZW46MXxjb3U6dXN8c2l0OmdwYXBlcjE3MQ==;
  anonId=72bd6954-d270-402a-a4d5-10f109166cef; rsi_ct=2009_8_4:51; 
 PHPSESSID=ak6iv296ca08bj4eilbjjr0vd7; 
 GCIONSN=cmVmOjB+bmQxOiU3QiUyMkxldmVsMU5vZGUlMjIlM0ElMjIlMjIlMkMlMjJMZXZlbDJOb2RlJTIyJTNBJTIyJTIyJTJDJTIyTmV3Q2xpY2slMjIlM0FmYWxzZSUyQyUyMlVSTCUyMiUzQSUyMmh0dHAlM0EvL2dldHB1Ymxpc2hlZC5uZXdzLWxlYWRlci5jb20vUmVzdHVyYW50SW5zcGVjdGlvbnMvdmlldy5waHAlM0ZJRCUzRDExMzclMjIlN0R+bmQyOm51bGw=;
  s_sq=%5B%5BB%5D%5D; s_cc=true; REVSCISN=true [HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL] = 
 max-age=0 [PATH] = /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin 
 [SERVER_SIGNATURE] =
 Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server at getpublished.news-leader.com Port 80
 [SERVER_SOFTWARE] = Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) [SERVER_NAME] = 
 getpublished.news-leader.com [SERVER_ADDR] = 64.29.29.40 [SERVER_PORT] = 80 
 [REMOTE_ADDR] = 64.22.254.4 [DOCUMENT_ROOT] = 
 /var/www/vhosts/getpublished.news-leader.com/httpdocs [SERVER_ADMIN] = 
 rjas...@springfi.gannett.com [SCRIPT_FILENAME] = 
 /var/www/vhosts/getpublished.news-leader.com/httpdocs/ResturantInspections/view.php
  [REMOTE_PORT] = 30353 [GATEWAY_INTERFACE] = CGI/1.1 [SERVER_PROTOCOL] = 
 HTTP/1.1 [REQUEST_METHOD] = GET [QUERY_STRING] = ID=1137 [REQUEST_URI] = 
 /ResturantInspections/view.php?ID=1137 [SCRIPT_NAME] = 
 /ResturantInspections/view.php [PHP_SELF] = /ResturantInspections/view.php 
 [REQUEST_TIME] = 1249398440 )
 
That's your problem then. Your $_SERVER['SCRIPT_FILENAME'] has a full
path in it. I think you maybe meant to use SCRIPT_NAME, which itself
even has the path relative to the document root in it. You could use the
basename() function to just get the filename of the path though.

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Miller, Terion wrote:
 THANKFULLY THE BOSS DECIDED TO YELL AT ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PROBLEM 
 WASI HAVE NEVER BEEN SO STRESSED IN MY LIFE
 SHOULD WORK BE THIS AWFUL? IT’S HARD ENOUGH WORKING IN A MALE DOMINATED 
 FIELD, BUT WHEN THEY START USING THEIR LARGE FRAMES AND BOOMING VOICES OMG 
 GOD...I JUST MAY HAVE TO CRY LIKE THE GIRL I AM. SHIT.
 SORRY FOR THE CAPS HAVING A MELTDOWN...AND FOR THE LIST THE PROBLEM WAS HERE:
 

Maybe he thought he was hiring a PHP developer or a detail oriented
quick learner.


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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Miller, Terion wrote:
 
 
 On 8/4/09 10:04 AM, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Miller,
 Teriontmil...@springfi.gannett.com wrote:


 ---snip

 ---snip-
 http://pastebin.ca/1517966

 I don't get why the $_SERVER['browse.php'] stopped working

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 What is the goal to show when there is nothing chosen (currently
 resulting in your default 'A' listing)
 
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 Cat, the other other white meat
 
 yep the current goal is that when the user first lands on the page browse.php 
 it will default to show the 'a' listings, on other pages no listings unless a 
 menu option is selected will show.
 
 
 

I couldn't help looking at the code.

1. There is no $_GET['letter'], there is a $_GET['ID'], so this:
// Main controller which page to show.

Will call browse('A')

2. This:
//if the page is browse default to A's if on other pages just show
pagination links and not default listings

Does absolutely nothing because it sets the $letter var, which you don't
even use except to overwrite it with your foreach:

foreach($letters as $letter)

Walk through your code step by step and you'll see the problems.

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Miller, Terion
Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on this list, 
I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front end designer, need 
graphics , need a css layout...see meneed backend programming..I'm trying...
Stop being such a egomaniacal dickhead, a social life may do you good.


On 8/4/09 9:53 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote:

Miller, Terion wrote:
 THANKFULLY THE BOSS DECIDED TO YELL AT ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PROBLEM 
 WASI HAVE NEVER BEEN SO STRESSED IN MY LIFE
 SHOULD WORK BE THIS AWFUL? IT'S HARD ENOUGH WORKING IN A MALE DOMINATED 
 FIELD, BUT WHEN THEY START USING THEIR LARGE FRAMES AND BOOMING VOICES OMG 
 GOD...I JUST MAY HAVE TO CRY LIKE THE GIRL I AM. SHIT.
 SORRY FOR THE CAPS HAVING A MELTDOWN...AND FOR THE LIST THE PROBLEM WAS HERE:


Maybe he thought he was hiring a PHP developer or a detail oriented
quick learner.


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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Miller, Terion wrote:
 Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on
 this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front
 end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see meneed
 backend programming..I'm trying... Stop being such a egomaniacal
 dickhead, a social life may do you good.

Dearest Terion,

If by repeatedly, you mean twice, then yes I'll agree.  I've also
helped and/or solved your issues more than twice (once being today if
you've read it and followed it).  Most often my intent was to get you to
try and learn and troubleshoot your own issues instead of posting the
same code problems and syntax errors over and over.  You come to this
list repeatedly with errors that are caused by a total lack of
understanding, and in my opinion, a total lack of due diligence on your
part.  It's not today or the past week or the past several weeks, it's
been for quite some time with little or no improvement.

If by being an asshole, you mean the time that I suggested that you
get an editor with syntax checking/highlighting because you posted a
whole page of wrapped code that had a syntax error (missing semicolon),
then yes I have been, though a helpful asshole with good intentions.  At
some point it gets obnoxious.  When is that point?  It differs depending
upon the person.  Many on this list have just stopped replying to your
posts altogether. I like them need to see an attempt to help ones self
occasionally before I continue with help.

I wasn't defending your boss yelling at you, that's rarely appropriate.
 However, after the many posts from you on this list, to see Need quick
got written up yesterday!! OUCH, I felt like yelling at you, Need
payment doing your work!! CONSTANTLY :-)

As a CSS/HTML/graphics designer, did you take this job with the
understanding that you'd have to learn PHP or did they just thrust it
upon you?  If the former, then you need to buckle down and learn it in a
constructive manner.  If your social life needs to suffer for a short
time, then that's what it takes. If the latter, then maybe talk to them
about some company paid training and mentoring from someone helpful that
knows backend programming and PHP.

I may be a dickhead, but not egomaniacal. There are many better PHP
gurus on this list than I, and I know it. Unfortunately, many of them
are ignoring your posts entirely.  At present my social life is actually
overwhelming my ability to devote time to PHP coding, however if you'd
like to send pictures I'll give them a look see.

I can understand your frustration and can tell that you're very
stressed, so I will attempt to not be an asshole nor a dickhead, but
please show a little more devotion to learning and helping yourself.

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RE: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread HallMarc Websites




 -Original Message-
 From: Miller, Terion [mailto:tmil...@springfi.gannett.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:09 AM
 To: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk; Miller, Terion
 Cc: ke...@netsmith.ltd.uk; PHP-General List
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH
 (RESOLVED)
 
 
 
 
 On 8/4/09 10:03 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
 
 print_r($_SERVER);
 
 I get:
 
 Array ( [HTTP_HOST] = getpublished.news-leader.com [HTTP_USER_AGENT]
 = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.13)
 Gecko/2009073021 Firefox/3.0.13 [HTTP_ACCEPT] =
 text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
 [HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE] = en-us,en;q=0.5 [HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING] =
 gzip,deflate [HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET] = ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
 [HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE] = 300 [HTTP_CONNECTION] = keep-alive [HTTP_REFERER]
 = http://getpublished.news-
 leader.com/ResturantInspections/restaurants.php?show=all [HTTP_COOKIE]
 =
 GCIONID=TExITWZPTUtlZElNQUZrdjlWdkZVQkNOQk1CTEZLKzk3RWEzbENYWE81MD1+MX4
 yMDA5MDgwNH4yfnppcDo2NTgwN3x5b2I6MTk2OHxnZW46MXxjb3U6dXN8c2l0OmdwYXBlcj
 E3MQ==; anonId=72bd6954-d270-402a-a4d5-10f109166cef;
 rsi_ct=2009_8_4:51; PHPSESSID=ak6iv296ca08bj4eilbjjr0vd7;
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 getpublished.news-leader.com [SERVER_ADDR] = 64.29.29.40 [SERVER_PORT]
 = 80 [REMOTE_ADDR] = 64.22.254.4 [DOCUMENT_ROOT] =
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 rjas...@springfi.gannett.com [SCRIPT_FILENAME] =
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 leader.com/httpdocs/ResturantInspections/view.php [REMOTE_PORT] =
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echo pre;
print_r($_SERVER);
echo /pre;

What gets sent to the window is at least legible by us lower human forms
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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote:

 Miller, Terion wrote:
  Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on
  this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front
  end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see meneed
  backend programming..I'm trying... Stop being such a egomaniacal
  dickhead, a social life may do you good.
 
 Dearest Terion,
 
 If by repeatedly, you mean twice, then yes I'll agree.  I've also
 helped and/or solved your issues more than twice (once being today if
 you've read it and followed it).  Most often my intent was to get you to
 try and learn and troubleshoot your own issues instead of posting the
 same code problems and syntax errors over and over.  You come to this
 list repeatedly with errors that are caused by a total lack of
 understanding, and in my opinion, a total lack of due diligence on your
 part.  It's not today or the past week or the past several weeks, it's
 been for quite some time with little or no improvement.
 
 If by being an asshole, you mean the time that I suggested that you
 get an editor with syntax checking/highlighting because you posted a
 whole page of wrapped code that had a syntax error (missing semicolon),
 then yes I have been, though a helpful asshole with good intentions.  At
 some point it gets obnoxious.  When is that point?  It differs depending
 upon the person.  Many on this list have just stopped replying to your
 posts altogether. I like them need to see an attempt to help ones self
 occasionally before I continue with help.
 
 I wasn't defending your boss yelling at you, that's rarely appropriate.
  However, after the many posts from you on this list, to see Need quick
 got written up yesterday!! OUCH, I felt like yelling at you, Need
 payment doing your work!! CONSTANTLY :-)
 
 As a CSS/HTML/graphics designer, did you take this job with the
 understanding that you'd have to learn PHP or did they just thrust it
 upon you?  If the former, then you need to buckle down and learn it in a
 constructive manner.  If your social life needs to suffer for a short
 time, then that's what it takes. If the latter, then maybe talk to them
 about some company paid training and mentoring from someone helpful that
 knows backend programming and PHP.
 
 I may be a dickhead, but not egomaniacal. There are many better PHP
 gurus on this list than I, and I know it. Unfortunately, many of them
 are ignoring your posts entirely.  At present my social life is actually
 overwhelming my ability to devote time to PHP coding, however if you'd
 like to send pictures I'll give them a look see.
 
 I can understand your frustration and can tell that you're very
 stressed, so I will attempt to not be an asshole nor a dickhead, but
 please show a little more devotion to learning and helping yourself.

I have to agree with Shawn on most everything. I'm one of those people
who've chosen not to pay attention to your posts. The masses of code you
post are nearly indecipherable, and you seem to be constantly tripped up
by syntax errors, etc.

PJ blew it with me in the same way. PJ, too, is not a professional
coder. And like you, he seems to be unwilling to buckle down and study
the language, preferring instead to come to experts here to get free
tutoring. But at some point, the patience of people on this list runs
out, and rather than excoriating you, they simply stop helping you.

My point here is not to insult you or denigrate your abilities. You may
be a very nice person, and quite talented at doing the things you're
trained to do. But programming in PHP is apparently not one of them. And
if you're going to be doing this for a living, then you're going to have
to either stop doing this for a living, or actually study the subject.
Because sooner or later, no one here will listen, no matter how nice you
are, and no matter how well you do the other parts of your job.

Paul

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RE: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread HallMarc Websites
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:44 PM
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH
 (RESOLVED)
 
 On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
 
  Miller, Terion wrote:
   Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on
   this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a
 front
   end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see meneed
   backend programming..I'm trying... Stop being such a egomaniacal
   dickhead, a social life may do you good.
 
  Dearest Terion,
 
  If by repeatedly, you mean twice, then yes I'll agree.  I've also
  helped and/or solved your issues more than twice (once being today if
  you've read it and followed it).  Most often my intent was to get you
 to
  try and learn and troubleshoot your own issues instead of posting the
  same code problems and syntax errors over and over.  You come to this
  list repeatedly with errors that are caused by a total lack of
  understanding, and in my opinion, a total lack of due diligence on
 your
  part.  It's not today or the past week or the past several weeks,
 it's
  been for quite some time with little or no improvement.
 
  If by being an asshole, you mean the time that I suggested that you
  get an editor with syntax checking/highlighting because you posted a
  whole page of wrapped code that had a syntax error (missing
 semicolon),
  then yes I have been, though a helpful asshole with good intentions.
 At
  some point it gets obnoxious.  When is that point?  It differs
 depending
  upon the person.  Many on this list have just stopped replying to
 your
  posts altogether. I like them need to see an attempt to help ones
 self
  occasionally before I continue with help.
 
  I wasn't defending your boss yelling at you, that's rarely
 appropriate.
   However, after the many posts from you on this list, to see Need
 quick
  got written up yesterday!! OUCH, I felt like yelling at you, Need
  payment doing your work!! CONSTANTLY :-)
 
  As a CSS/HTML/graphics designer, did you take this job with the
  understanding that you'd have to learn PHP or did they just thrust it
  upon you?  If the former, then you need to buckle down and learn it
 in a
  constructive manner.  If your social life needs to suffer for a short
  time, then that's what it takes. If the latter, then maybe talk to
 them
  about some company paid training and mentoring from someone helpful
 that
  knows backend programming and PHP.
 
  I may be a dickhead, but not egomaniacal. There are many better
 PHP
  gurus on this list than I, and I know it. Unfortunately, many of them
  are ignoring your posts entirely.  At present my social life is
 actually
  overwhelming my ability to devote time to PHP coding, however if
 you'd
  like to send pictures I'll give them a look see.
 
  I can understand your frustration and can tell that you're very
  stressed, so I will attempt to not be an asshole nor a dickhead,
 but
  please show a little more devotion to learning and helping yourself.
 
 I have to agree with Shawn on most everything. I'm one of those people
 who've chosen not to pay attention to your posts. The masses of code
 you
 post are nearly indecipherable, and you seem to be constantly tripped
 up
 by syntax errors, etc.
 
 PJ blew it with me in the same way. PJ, too, is not a professional
 coder. And like you, he seems to be unwilling to buckle down and study
 the language, preferring instead to come to experts here to get free
 tutoring. But at some point, the patience of people on this list runs
 out, and rather than excoriating you, they simply stop helping you.
 
 My point here is not to insult you or denigrate your abilities. You may
 be a very nice person, and quite talented at doing the things you're
 trained to do. But programming in PHP is apparently not one of them.
 And
 if you're going to be doing this for a living, then you're going to
 have
 to either stop doing this for a living, or actually study the subject.
 Because sooner or later, no one here will listen, no matter how nice
 you
 are, and no matter how well you do the other parts of your job.
 
 Paul
 
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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 06:10:30PM -0400, HallMarc Websites wrote:

 [HallMarc Websites]
 
 God I love this planet. I agree with Paul.
 

Yeah, great planet, this. A little touristy, but still a good travel
value. 

;-}

Paul

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Govinda

Terion,

I've done a lot of backend programming, but I'm even more newbie than  
you in PHP...  so take this from an equal,  FWIW:
I think we in this work can all get dry/impersonal and grouchy at  
times, but to rephrase the others, in perhaps more encouraging terms:
I think the guys just want the natural satisfaction of seeing you grow  
in understanding.  it is really fulfilling to help people; we all love  
helping someone in need!  But we all also want to see our investment  
stick and make a difference in the long run.  Putting out fires is ok  
once in a while, but much more satisfying is contributing to someone  
getting good at this stuff, even if at a humble pace.



John Butler (Govinda)
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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Terion,

 I've done a lot of backend programming, but I'm even more newbie than you in
 PHP...  so take this from an equal,  FWIW:
 I think we in this work can all get dry/impersonal and grouchy at times, but
 to rephrase the others, in perhaps more encouraging terms:
 I think the guys just want the natural satisfaction of seeing you grow in
 understanding.  it is really fulfilling to help people; we all love helping
 someone in need!  But we all also want to see our investment stick and make
 a difference in the long run.  Putting out fires is ok once in a while, but
 much more satisfying is contributing to someone getting good at this stuff,
 even if at a humble pace.

 
 John Butler (Govinda)
 govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com





Yea that whole teach a person to fish... yadda yadda. :)

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Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

2009-08-04 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Eric Butera wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Govindagovinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Terion,

 I've done a lot of backend programming, but I'm even more newbie than you in
 PHP...  so take this from an equal,  FWIW:
 I think we in this work can all get dry/impersonal and grouchy at times, but
 to rephrase the others, in perhaps more encouraging terms:
 I think the guys just want the natural satisfaction of seeing you grow in
 understanding.  it is really fulfilling to help people; we all love helping
 someone in need!  But we all also want to see our investment stick and make
 a difference in the long run.  Putting out fires is ok once in a while, but
 much more satisfying is contributing to someone getting good at this stuff,
 even if at a humble pace.

 
 John Butler (Govinda)
 govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com




 
 Yea that whole teach a person to fish... yadda yadda. :)
 

Ya, the on fire thing or whatever is the weird part.

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