2009/10/16 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com:
It's called vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency. I'm
certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that!
I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away
from the net? We must be from different
2009/10/16 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
Thanks!
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Dotan Cohen wrote on 2009-10-23 22:40:
But I think for the OP's purposes, he could simply DEFINE any word he wanted
at the beginning of the conversation: Listen up duder. When I say 'de-ref'
you make hyphen and a greater-than sign. Capiche?. He could just as easily
say, Listen up duder. When I
There is... It's called a Fax ;-)
Again, I am interested in knowing the proper terminology for PHP
constructs and code. We have a name for a small sweer green fruit from
the vine, and we have a name for the alcoholic beverage that is
derived from it. Knowing these names helps one communicate
But I think for the OP's purposes, he could simply DEFINE any word he wanted
at the beginning of the conversation: Listen up duder. When I say 'de-ref'
you make hyphen and a greater-than sign. Capiche?. He could just as easily
say, Listen up duder. When I say 'arrow-thingy' you make hyphen and
Open paren. Dollar-sign item de-ref getServiceID method. Question mark.
Dollar-sign item de-ref getServiceID method again. Colon.
Dollar-sign item de-ref getID method. Close up matching parenthesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_%28computer_science%29
Thanks. The word Reference was
At 9:42 AM +0200 10/21/09, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Open paren. Dollar-sign item de-ref getServiceID method. Question mark.
Dollar-sign item de-ref getServiceID method again. Colon.
Dollar-sign item de-ref getID method. Close up matching parenthesis.
-Original Message-
From: tedd [mailto:tedd.sperl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:38 AM
To: Dotan Cohen; Daevid Vincent
Cc: php-general.
Subject: Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?
At 9:42 AM +0200 10/21/09, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Open paren
-Original Message-
From: Dotan Cohen [mailto:dotanco...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:46 AM
To: php-general.
Subject: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
At 4:15 AM +0200 10/17/09, Dotan Cohen wrote:
This is a lot of posts to say either read it off character by
character
If there is a jargon for operators such as - I'd like to know them.
Dotan Cohen
As I said previously, it's called an operator.
Of course you can call it whatever you
As for following a convention, just
get the PHP terminology right,
That is what I was hoping to learn!
or at least agree on your on
bastardized terminology.
Because this may cause problems in the future.
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On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
Thanks!
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Wow! Here goes:
Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no all one word
but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets, question mark, dollar
item again, then a hyphen and greater-than, that get service id and brackets
bit again, exactly the same as last time;
open parenthesis
$item getServiceId
question symbol
$item getServiceId
colon
$item getId
close parenthesis
How would you mention the - constructs? Certainly they are not assumed?
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On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 18:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Wow! Here goes:
Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no all one
word but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets, question mark,
dollar item again, then a hyphen and greater-than, that get service
First ask him/her for an email address, and then while you are over the
phone send the text by email.
This way the other can *instantaneously* read and both of you can talk about
the code.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at
On 10/16/2009 9:31 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Wow! Here goes:
Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no all one word
but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets, question mark, dollar item
again, then a hyphen and greater-than, that get service id and brackets bit
Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
Thanks!
FATAL ERROR: Non matching parenthesis.
Ok, but really, I would say something along these lines:
Open
From: Ashley Sheridan
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 18:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Wow! Here goes:
Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no
all one word but with a capital S and I. Open and close brackets,
question mark, dollar item again, then a hyphen and greater-than,
At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
Thanks!
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Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not
then the process is more cumbersome since I can't say
So it really involves mentioning each character. I was hoping that
there would be a shared language for constructs such as - and the
like.
I like pointy-thingie, but it's called an operator.
Cheers,
tedd
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On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 12:47 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() :
From: tedd
At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
Wow! Here goes:
Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 12:47 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ?
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:
From: Ashley Sheridan
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 18:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Wow! Here goes:
Open-bracket, dollar item hypen greater-than, get service id, no
all one word but with a capital S and I. Open and close
Bob McConnell wrote:
From: tedd
At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
Robert Cummings wrote:
Bob McConnell wrote:
From: tedd
At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 17:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How would you read this out loud if you were to read it to someone
over the phone?
($item-getServiceId() ?
First ask him/her for an email address, and then while you are over the
phone send the text by email.
This way the other can *instantaneously* read and both of you can talk about
the code.
That is how it is usually done. But we have found ourselves twice in
the position where one had to talk
There are, what you'd call, technical jargon for them.
However, it'd pretty obviously depend on the extent of knowledge of the
person on other side of phone line. If she understands PHP objects,
difference between OOP in PHP4 PHP5, and ternary operator, things would be
fairly simple.
Yes,
Ok, but really, I would say something along these lines:
Open Conditional statement
Test Condition
Using object variable item call object member method get service id
if condition results are true issue following command
Using object variable item call object member method
It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not then
the process is more cumbersome since I can't say things like variable item
calling camel-case method getServiceId without parameters.
Yes, I should have mentioned that the other party is an experienced
PHP developer.
Have you thought about using instant messaging? How about sending the code
to him via text message? Putting it on a pastie or on code pad? IRC, sFTP,
SSH, you see, in the 21st century, there exists a plethora of solutions to
circumvent this particular issue.
I would be interested in
From: Dotan Cohen
I would be interested in finding out how the OP ended up having absolutely
no option but to pass code to another Homo Sapien verbally? Unless you
managed to cripple your system and disconnect your company from the
internet, surely, it would have been faster (and easier)
If they can reach you by phone you are not on vacation. You are still
attached to their leash.
And they still throw me bones :) It's worth it!
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Dotan Cohen wrote:
It's called vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency. I'm
certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that!
I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away
from the net? We must be from different planets...
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I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away
from the net? We must be from different planets...
Very likely, as us Saturnians inhabit the moons, not the planet. Only
rocky planet-dwellers talk like that!
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O. Lavell wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
It's called vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency. I'm
certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that!
I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away
from the net? We must be from different
It's called vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency. I'm
certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that!
I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away
from the net? We must be from different planets...
How to do you vacation from
- Original Message
From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
To: Bipin Upadhyay muxical.g...@gmail.com
Cc: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk; php-general. php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 11:29:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone
Yes, the other end of the phone is an experienced PHP developer.
IMO, if you have to explain this code over the phone or any medium:
($item-getServiceId() ? $item-getServiceId() : $item-getId(;
The other person you're talking to is definitely not experienced. ;)
I do not need to
This is a lot of posts to say either read it off character by
character or just email the damn line.
On 10/16/09, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, the other end of the phone is an experienced PHP developer.
IMO, if you have to explain this code over the phone or any medium:
At 12:59 PM -0400 10/16/09, Bob McConnell wrote:
From: tedd
At 4:51 PM +0100 10/16/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
Open-bracket,
No, that's not an open bracket -- that's an open parenthesis or
paren for short.
An open bracket is [
An open curly brace is {
That depends on which edition
At 8:31 PM +0200 10/16/09, Dotan Cohen wrote:
It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not then
the process is more cumbersome since I can't say things like variable item
calling camel-case method getServiceId without parameters.
Yes, I should have mentioned that
Dotan Cohen wrote:
It's called vacation away from the 'net but there is an emergency. I'm
certain that a fair portion of the list is familiar with that!
I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Vacation? Away
from the net? We must be from different planets...
How to do you
tedd wrote:
At 8:31 PM +0200 10/16/09, Dotan Cohen wrote:
It depends... is the person familiar with PHP or not? If they are not then
the process is more cumbersome since I can't say things like variable item
calling camel-case method getServiceId without parameters.
Yes, I should have
This is a lot of posts to say either read it off character by
character
If there is a jargon for operators such as - I'd like to know them.
or just email the damn line.
Not possible for whatever reason, otherwise I wouldn't be bothering the list!
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