Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-18 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings schreef: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 11:48 -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: I think what you all are missing is that physics is just a framework for reality. I think you are missing that reality is just a construct of strawberry fields forever. Carl Sagan

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:55 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings schreef: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 11:48 -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: I think what you all are missing is that physics is just a framework for reality. I think you are missing that reality is

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-18 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings schreef: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 11:48 -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: I think what you all are missing is that physics is just a framework for reality. I think you are missing that reality is just a

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Thodoris
2009/2/16 Thodoris t...@kinetix.gr: In addition to this there is an API for C that can be used to code web applications and it is known as CGI (it is provided by many languages) CGI is a protocol not an API and has no specific connection to C. -Stuart I stand corrected on

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Thodoris
I didn't mention that it was a C specific framework, I just said IMO it was similar to a framework for the web. It's an opinion so I can't be wrong. In my opinion earlier versions of PHP *could* (not should but could) be described as a framework in essence, however I wouldn't say that anymore

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Thodoris
I didn't mention that it was a C specific framework, I just said IMO it was similar to a framework for the web. It's an opinion so I can't be wrong. In my opinion earlier versions of PHP *could* (not should but could) be described as a framework in essence, however I wouldn't say that anymore

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Virgilio Quilario
Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ if you had a time for this fruitless discussion. Please send your opinions. PHP is a server side scripting language for the Web using a C like language structure and conventions. The

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Virgilio Quilario wrote: Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ if you had a time for this fruitless discussion. Please send your opinions. PHP is a server side scripting language for the Web using a C like language

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Thodoris
Virgilio Quilario wrote: Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ if you had a time for this fruitless discussion. Please send your opinions. PHP is a server side scripting language for the Web using a C like

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:05 +0200, Thodoris wrote: Virgilio Quilario wrote: Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ if you had a time for this fruitless discussion. Please send your opinions. PHP

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Jim Lucas
Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:05 +0200, Thodoris wrote: Virgilio Quilario wrote: Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ if you had a time for this fruitless discussion. Please send your opinions.

RE: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
-Original Message- From: Jim Lucas [mailto:li...@cmsws.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:14 PM To: Robert Cummings Cc: t...@kinetix.gr; Shawn McKenzie; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ Robert Cummings

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:05 +0200, Thodoris wrote: Virgilio Quilario wrote: Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ if you had a time for

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 14:23 -0500, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:05 +0200, Thodoris wrote: Virgilio Quilario wrote: Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Thodoris
What's so funny? Assembly is just a framework for microcode. Cheers, Rob. So, what is the level that actually polarizes the sectors on the hard drive? Anything more abstract then that is then an API right? I guess it abstracts a level but I can hardly say that microcode is

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of Cand C++

2009-02-17 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 14:23 -0500, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:05 +0200, Thodoris wrote: Virgilio Quilario wrote: Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards.

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Michael A. Peters
Robert Cummings wrote: I think what you all are missing is that physics is just a framework for reality. I think you are missing that reality is just a construct of strawberry fields forever. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of Cand C++

2009-02-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 13:40 -0600, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 14:23 -0500, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:05 +0200, Thodoris wrote: Virgilio Quilario

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 11:48 -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: I think what you all are missing is that physics is just a framework for reality. I think you are missing that reality is just a construct of strawberry fields forever. Carl Sagan once said something

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-16 Thread Thodoris
Hello list. Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ if you had a time for this fruitless discussion. Please send your opinions. Regards Sancar I think that you can't assume that PHP is a C framework for the web,

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-16 Thread Lewis Wright
I'd personally say that PHP was originally intended to essentially be a framework for the web, but has since evolved in to its own language. It's just my opinion though... 2009/2/16 Thodoris t...@kinetix.gr: Hello list. Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-16 Thread Thodoris
I'd personally say that PHP was originally intended to essentially be a framework for the web, but has since evolved in to its own language. It's just my opinion though... Well you can see that some basic facts from PHP history can prove you wrong:

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-16 Thread Stuart
2009/2/16 Thodoris t...@kinetix.gr: In addition to this there is an API for C that can be used to code web applications and it is known as CGI (it is provided by many languages) CGI is a protocol not an API and has no specific connection to C. -Stuart -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-16 Thread German Geek
I thought its an interface as in Common Gateway Interface. :-P You are right it isn't a specific connection to C. CGI can basically be used with any language. A protocol to me is something like TCP/IP or http etc. Like a language between a network of nodes. Tim-Hinnerk Heuer

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-16 Thread Stuart
2009/2/16 German Geek geek...@gmail.com: I thought its an interface as in Common Gateway Interface. :-P You are right it isn't a specific connection to C. CGI can basically be used with any language. A protocol to me is something like TCP/IP or http etc. Like a language between a network of

Re: [PHP] Opinions Please, Describing PHP as Web Framework of C and C++

2009-02-15 Thread Per Jessen
Sancar Saran wrote: Hello list. Recently we had some serious discussion on local boards. I prefer calling PHP as Web Framework of C and C++ PHP is a scripting language with syntactical roots in C. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-3.5°C) -- PHP General Mailing List

Re: [PHP] Opinions, please

2001-12-16 Thread Ray Gaylog
Well, One way is to log that the user is online into a database...or a flat file. I have done this before using a database (very easy), however I have not used a file yet..but it is possible. Use fopen() routines and fclose() for the low level file access. Another method is to use cookies..the