Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-09 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
> But I think it's not so easy.. I mean.. Translators file is update when > someone run a cvs commit or every day at manual build? See the way NEWS works on the source-tree. Every day, a cron-job updates the NEWS file (with cvs-id of 'changelog'), and the mail-the-commits-program is programmed to

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-09 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
> > > Revision tags in the translated or the original English XML files are > > > nonsense. Every translator have to look into the phpdoc tree at > > > cvs.php.net. > > > > WHHYYY? > > You cannot do a translation with revison tags. So it is nonsense. You can > not make a diff

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-09 Thread eschmid+sic
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 08:06:35PM +0200, Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > Egon writes: > > > Revision tags in the translated or the original English XML files are > > nonsense. Every translator have to look into the phpdoc tree at > > cvs.php.net. > > WHHYYY? You cannot do a translati

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-09 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
Egon writes: > Revision tags in the translated or the original English XML files are > nonsense. Every translator have to look into the phpdoc tree at > cvs.php.net. WHHYYY? Goba

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-09 Thread Luca Perugini
Ciao Goba, > > on this way we don't need to grep every file > > ... but only some temp file. > > Here we do not want to optimize the grep, but > would like to optimize our work. Placing tha revision you're right.. :) > inside the file, means: > > - one commit (one modification to only one f

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread eschmid+sic
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 12:08:32AM +0200, Thomas Schöfbeck wrote: > Sounds also good! > > Let's summarize: > > is already available, > > is OK for Jeroen, Goba, Luca, and me (=3 1/2) > > > is at least for me also OK, > since the "State" saves the manipulation of translators when > committi

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Thomas Schöfbeck
Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > > > > Is > > > > > > Right.. or like I've already said > > > > > > Directory/File Translator Status/EN > > = > > bookinfo.xml perugini T1.13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can use > > //CVS/Entries > > > > > > on

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Thomas Schöfbeck
Hi Luca, Thanks for the offer from your last posting! As Goba already explained, we should check on the translation-side the comment in the file (). Even the is really useful for the working-copies, (as also very good explained by Goba :), I think that it doesn't matter if we check against the

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Thomas Schöfbeck
> Is > > a good idea? It is (on purpose) very similar to: > Great!

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
> > > Is > > > > Right.. or like I've already said > > > Directory/File Translator Status/EN > = > bookinfo.xml perugini T1.13 > > > > > > > > We can use > //CVS/Entries > > > on this way we don't need to grep every file > ... b

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Luca Perugini
> > Is > > Right.. or like I've already said Directory/File Translator Status/EN = bookinfo.xmlperuginiT1.13 > > We can use //CVS/Entries on this way we don't need to grep every file ... but onl

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
> Is > > a good idea? It is (on purpose) very similar to: > Right. Goba

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
> thanks you for this proposal, your d-param is what I meant, but only > from within the file (That saves sometimes a second commit, and has > other advantages). > > But it shows, that others are also working on this issue. Noone came up with a script, just Luca :)) The things are OK here, but w

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-08 Thread Luca Perugini
Ciao Thomas, what you mean is something like a report for a particular module? eg.: ./checkTr d it/function/mysql.xml I'd like to share my effort with you and other in a common solution. I think what was done by Simone, add a revision en number on it/Translators, it's a good start point.

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
> But it shows, that others are also working on this issue. > > Maybe we should really try to agree on a common solution for this? I agree with Thomas. I'm sure that with some cooperation a nice solution can be reached. > Exactly that's the the wrong way. If the change in May 2000 was only a typ

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Thomas Schöfbeck
Hi Luca, thanks you for this proposal, your d-param is what I meant, but only from within the file (That saves sometimes a second commit, and has other advantages). But it shows, that others are also working on this issue. Maybe we should really try to agree on a common solution for this? Cu,

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Thomas Schöfbeck
Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > > No. One revision is not enough. We need the revision history and that > > should no be in the documentation. Your way is also possible, but to what > > revision? > > How is the revision history is useful?? Why a simple revision > number is not enough? OK, lets draw a tab

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Thomas Schöfbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 04:55:14PM +0200, Hojtsy Gábor wrote: > > >> So we have a $Revision tag in the english file, showing the actual > > >> english version number. We can have a comment in the translated > > >> version, about what english version number it correspo

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Thomas Schöfbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:39:53AM +0200, Thomas wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 10:46:25AM +0200, Thomas wrote: > > > > Hojtsy gábor wrote: > > > > > > > > >>I too think that this is not needed for translations. I can't think > > >

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
> No. One revision is not enough. We need the revision history and that > should no be in the documentation. Your way is also possible, but to what > revision? How is the revision history is useful?? Why a simple revision number is not enough? OK, lets draw a table: +

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread eschmid+sic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 07:39:49PM +0200, Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > > > Let's imagine, you start translating mysql.xml. This is not > > > a small file, so you can't complete it in a day. You copy > > > the mysql.xml file yourself to a separate directory, as > > > you probably won't follow the modifica

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
> > Let's imagine, you start translating mysql.xml. This is not > > a small file, so you can't complete it in a day. You copy > > the mysql.xml file yourself to a separate directory, as > > you probably won't follow the modifications in the mysql.xml > > file as you translate, because the translat

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread eschmid+sic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 04:55:14PM +0200, Hojtsy Gábor wrote: > >> So we have a $Revision tag in the english file, showing the actual > >> english version number. We can have a comment in the translated > >> version, about what english version number it corresponds to. This > >> way you can do a d

RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gábor
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml >> So we have a $Revision tag in the english file, showing the actual >> english version number. We can have a comment in the translated >> version, about what english version number it corresponds to. This >> way you

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread eschmid+sic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 01:40:12PM +0200, Hojtsy Gábor wrote: > >> this is in fact an "automated look into the en-cvs-tree" for > >more than just > >> one file. > > > >For the other languages it is useless, because we have to look > >into more > >revisions besides the last en revision. Most tran

RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gábor
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml >> this is in fact an "automated look into the en-cvs-tree" for >more than just >> one file. > >For the other languages it is useless, because we have to look >into more >revisions besides the last en revi

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread eschmid+sic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:39:53AM +0200, Thomas wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 10:46:25AM +0200, Thomas wrote: > > > Hojtsy gábor wrote: > > > > > > >>I too think that this is not needed for translations. I can't think > > > > of > > > > >>any situation where I w

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Luca Perugini
Hi, I've wrote a simple script to have a snapshot of italian translation status, module translated, assigned and so on. This script use some info write on it/Translators and some info taked from en//CVS/Entries With this scrip you can: - check which module is assigned ( a option)

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Thomas
Hi Egon, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 10:46:25AM +0200, Thomas wrote: > > Hojtsy gábor wrote: > > > > >>I too think that this is not needed for translations. I can't think > > > of > > > >>any situation where I would use this. An En-version comment > > > >>will be at least

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Thomas
Hello Goba, Hojtsy gábor wrote: > >You're right. I use a tag like (proposed by Jeroen I think) > > > >As soon as I have enough files with this tag, I'll write a > >simple script > >which shows me the priority (which file is farest behind) of > >"my" files. > >The more users in our language follo

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread eschmid+sic
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 10:46:25AM +0200, Thomas wrote: > Hojtsy gábor wrote: > > >>I too think that this is not needed for translations. I can't think > > of > > >>any situation where I would use this. An En-version comment > > >>will be at least usable :)) > > >Whenever I find out a partally tr

RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gábor
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml >You're right. I use a tag like (proposed by Jeroen I think) > > >As soon as I have enough files with this tag, I'll write a >simple script > >which shows me the priority (which file is farest behind) of >&q

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Thomas
Hojtsy gábor wrote: > > > >>I too think that this is not needed for translations. I can't think > of > >>any situation where I would use this. An En-version comment > >>will be at least usable :)) > >Whenever I find out a partally translated file, I know at once > >which version is was started

RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gábor
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml >>I too think that this is not needed for translations. I can't think of >>any situation where I would use this. An En-version comment >>will be at least usable :)) >Whenever I find out a partally translated f

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Damien Seguy
on 7/08/01 9:32, Hojtsy Gábor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Goba, >I too think that this is not needed for translations. I can't think of >any situation where I would use this. An En-version comment >will be at least usable :)) Whenever I find out a partally translated file, I know at once whic

RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml >> The reason I added them to 'en', was because translations >are relative to a >> en-revision. For translations, that is not true. IMO, it is >best if there is >> a En-Revision: 1.XX comment, which is m

RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-07 Thread Hojtsy Gábor
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml >>   Modified files: >> /phpdoc/fr bookinfo.xml >>   Log: >>   Adding the revision tag > >Is that needed for translations? > >The reason I added them to 'en', was because translations are

[PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-06 Thread Damien Seguy
on 6/08/01 21:50, Jeroen van Wolffelaar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeroen, > Is that needed for translations? This won't hurt, and this helps me keep track of files, since version is also written on them. > The reason I added them to 'en', was because translations are relative to a > en-rev

[PHP-DOC] Re: phpdoc /fr bookinfo.xml

2001-08-06 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
> dams Mon Aug 6 06:38:02 2001 EDT > > Modified files: > /phpdoc/fr bookinfo.xml > Log: > Adding the revision tag Is that needed for translations? The reason I added them to 'en', was because translations are relative to a en-revision. For translations, that is not true. IMO, it is be