Re: Announce: PicoLisp on bare metal

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Burger
Dear Raman, > > FYI: I did some experiments for a minimal web server (loading the full > > miniPicoLisp 'pil' environment plus "lib/http.l", "lib/xhtml.l" and > > "lib/form.l"). It occupied about 500 kB. This was OK because we had a > > limit of 1 MB. > > Wow! Fantastic! > > But just a question.

Re: Announce: PicoLisp on bare metal

2014-09-21 Thread Raman Gopalan
Dear Alex, > FYI: I did some experiments for a minimal web server (loading the full > miniPicoLisp 'pil' environment plus "lib/http.l", "lib/xhtml.l" and > "lib/form.l"). It occupied about 500 kB. This was OK because we had a > limit of 1 MB. Wow! Fantastic! But just a question. Since miniPicoLi

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

2014-09-21 Thread Doug Snead
Oh boy! I've been thinking of something like this for a while. What is the low-hanging fruit here, in the sense of, what applications might we do faster/cheaper/better in hardware like this, than can be done otherwise? The idea of pilog in hardware excites me too ... maybe time to go back and

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Re: PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Burger
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 08:15:52PM +0200, Tomas Hlavaty wrote: > a good starting point is http://software-lab.de/doc/tut.html or, perhaps more to Jerome's questions about differences to CL: http://software-lab.de/doc/faq.html -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Programming environment for PilMCU

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Thorsten, > Assuming PilMCU hardware exists and someone wants to use or program it, how > would that look like? Where would one type the commands to manage the > file system (whats the PilCMU terminal/console?), how would one interact > with the PicoLisp REPL? You saw the copy/pasted session i

Re: PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread jerome moliere
Thanks to you Thorsten & Alex I'll definitely have a closer look to the rosettacode.org website and read online papers about PicoLisp design. Thanks again Regards Jerome On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 07:17:08PM +0200, jerome moliere wrote: >

Re: PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Jerome a good starting point is http://software-lab.de/doc/tut.html Cheers, Tomas -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Programming environment for PilMCU

2014-09-21 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Hi List, this might not be a smart question, but anyway: Assuming PilMCU hardware exists and someone wants to use or program it, how would that look like? Where would one type the commands to manage the file system (whats the PilCMU terminal/console?), how would one interact with the PicoLisp R

Re: PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Burger
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 07:17:08PM +0200, jerome moliere wrote: > Is there a guide explaining major differences between Common Lisp & I'm afraid, not in a single place. > PicoLisp ? I guess, reading your answer , that there 's no just a few > syntactic differences between the 2 dialects ... I c

Re: PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
jerome moliere writes: > Thanks for your quick reply... > Is there a guide explaining major differences between Common Lisp & > PicoLisp ? I guess, reading your answer , that there 's no just a few > syntactic differences between the 2 dialects ... I can read between > the lines some philosophica

Re: PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread jerome moliere
Thanks for your quick reply... Is there a guide explaining major differences between Common Lisp & PicoLisp ? I guess, reading your answer , that there 's no just a few syntactic differences between the 2 dialects ... I can read between the lines some philosophical major differences , right? What

Re: PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Jerome, > I do not intend to spam your mailing list , sorry if this question sounds > stupid for many of you but I had a look to the PicoLisp language. No problem. Don't worry! > I am not a > Lisp expert but I can write Clojure code & Emacs Lisp I'd like to know > how far/close PicoLisp

PicoLisp roots

2014-09-21 Thread jerome moliere
Hi all, I do not intend to spam your mailing list , sorry if this question sounds stupid for many of you but I had a look to the PicoLisp language.I am not a Lisp expert but I can write Clojure code & Emacs Lisp I'd like to know how far/close PicoLisp is from Common Lisp or other Lisp dialects.

Re: PilMCU 2.0

2014-09-21 Thread Laurent Artaud
Le 21/09/2014 15:56, Heow Goodman a écrit : Perhaps like the 144-core forth chip: http://www.greenarraychips.com/ I had a somewhat similar thought… Without going as far as that (the F18A is a very special core — unclocked, 18 bits words, … — and as such very small and low power), I think

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2014-09-21 Thread Heow Goodman
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Re: Announce: PicoLisp on bare metal

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Burger
Dear Raman, > > on extremely small systems back then in Munich. However, I was reluctant > > to mention it here, because I didn't think it was in _that_ range (i.e. > > 128 kB (?)). > > Sure. The stm32f103re has just 64KB internal SRAM. PicoLisp can run on it. Wow, great! I wasn't aware of that

Re: Announce: PicoLisp on bare metal

2014-09-21 Thread jerome moliere
Hi all, I will not hesitate once my kits received In fact the application requires extensibility that'w why I'd like to be able to run a Lisp interpreter for being able to develop smart & safe software updates , the code is data / data is code philosophy is really well suited for such use case