Re: mail for mx2.youngguns.nl loops back to myself

2010-01-22 Thread Martijn de Munnik
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:35:25 -0500 (EST), wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: > Martijn de Munnik: >> Jan 21 17:02:30 marcus postfix/qmgr[16421]: 523FD1C11A: >> from=, size=650750, nrcpt=1 (queue active) >> Jan 21 17:02:30 marcus postfix/smtp[16449]: 523FD1C11A: host >> mx-cluster1.one.com[

Re: Change behavior of return code

2010-01-22 Thread Mickael CANEVET
It works like a charm. Thanks a lot. On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 13:36 -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > Victor Duchovni: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:57:17PM +0100, Mickael CANEVET wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'd like postfix to treat EX_CANTCREAT (73) as "temporary failure". > > > > > > I use t

SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Stan Hoeppner put forth on 1/22/2010 1:28 AM: > I've wondered for a couple of months why my rbl check is being skipped. I've > not seen a spamhaus entry in my logs since Sept 25 '09. Interestingly, > postgrey > is being called now and then, and it is after the rbl check in main.cf. Any > idea w

Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Doug Robbins
Messages containing leading whitespace in the recipient address are rejected. Example: Jan 22 08:32:41 vps10 postfix/smtpd[5937]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from smtpout.eastlink.ca[24.222.0.30]: 550 5.1.1 < soli...@example.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table; fr

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Doug Robbins : > Messages containing leading whitespace in the recipient address are > rejected. > > Example: > > Jan 22 08:32:41 vps10 postfix/smtpd[5937]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from > smtpout.eastlink.ca[24.222.0.30]: 550 5.1.1 < soli...@example.com>: > Recipient address rejected: User unknow

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Doug Robbins: > Messages containing leading whitespace in the recipient address are > rejected. Only if the recipient does not exist. > Example: > > Jan 22 08:32:41 vps10 postfix/smtpd[5937]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from > smtpout.eastlink.ca[24.222.0.30]: 550 5.1.1 < soli...@example.com>: > Re

Timeout of SMTP servers

2010-01-22 Thread Martijn de Munnik
Hi List, RFC2821 section 4.5.3.2 Timeouts reads "An SMTP server SHOULD have a timeout of at least 5 minutes while it is awaiting the next command from the sender." When I try to connect to an one.com mx (mx-cluster1.one.com or mx-cluster2.one.com) I notice they will close the connection after ab

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Mikael Bak
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > 1. Spamhaus has banned Google Public DNS resolver queries. Stan, Do you have a good enough reason to not run your own name resolver on your front MX machine? IMO relying on third parties for DNS on an MX is bad design. Mikael

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Doug Robbins
On 22-Jan-2010 10:11 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Doug Robbins: Messages containing leading whitespace in the recipient address are rejected. Only if the recipient does not exist. Example: Jan 22 08:32:41 vps10 postfix/smtpd[5937]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from smtpout.eastlink.ca[24.222.0.30]:

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Noah Sheppard
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:40:58AM -0330, Doug Robbins wrote: > Is there something I can do to avoid these rejections (other than > the obvious -- get dba...@example2.com to fix his address book)? A milter could remove recipients with spaces and add back ones without spaces. To do it completely c

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 02:13:17PM +0100, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > Is there something I can do to avoid these rejections (other than the > > obvious -- get dba...@example2.com to fix his address book)? > > Hm, you could try and alias " soli...@example.com" to > "soli...@example.com" > > But h

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Victor Duchovni : > This said, far better to just reject this, and let the sender correct > their address list. Yes. -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Stan Hoeppner: > 1. Spamhaus has banned Google Public DNS resolver queries. I > didn't know this until today. If Postfix is using Google Public > DNS resolvers, rbl queries to zen.spamhaus.org fail but Postfix > (Debian Lenny 2.5.5-1.1) logs NOTHING about it. Not the query > attempt, not the fa

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Victor Duchovni: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 02:13:17PM +0100, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > > > Is there something I can do to avoid these rejections (other than the > > > obvious -- get dba...@example2.com to fix his address book)? > > > > Hm, you could try and alias " soli...@example.com" to > > "

Re: Best Suggestion For Blacklisting Senders

2010-01-22 Thread Carlos Williams
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Brian Evans - Postfix List wrote: > This is a client IP not a sender, e. g. 'MAIL FROM: br...@example.com' > > The IP should go into a file referenced by a check_client_access > restriction. I think I still don't have a understanding at how to properly read / und

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mikael Bak put forth on 1/22/2010 7:50 AM: > Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >> 1. Spamhaus has banned Google Public DNS resolver queries. > > Stan, > Do you have a good enough reason to not run your own name resolver on > your front MX machine? > > IMO relying on third parties for DNS on an MX is bad d

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Kenneth Marshall
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 08:34:35AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Mikael Bak put forth on 1/22/2010 7:50 AM: > > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> > >> 1. Spamhaus has banned Google Public DNS resolver queries. > > > > Stan, > > Do you have a good enough reason to not run your own name resolver on > > you

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:16:07AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > The lookup keys and RHS values for virtual(5) are in rfc822 format. > > A PCRE table can take care of this: > > Virtual alias lookups are done in the "unquoted" form, while > canonical map lookups are in "quoted" form. No, the cl

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Victor Duchovni: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:16:07AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > > The lookup keys and RHS values for virtual(5) are in rfc822 format. > > > A PCRE table can take care of this: > > > > Virtual alias lookups are done in the "unquoted" form, while > > canonical map lookups ar

Re: Email address with leading whitespace rejected

2010-01-22 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:33:58AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > One could argue that the SMTP server should use the external form of the > > recipient for these lookup, to match downstream behaviour in cleanup(8)... > > Indeed. There was no address validation in the initial design and > implem

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Noel Jones
On 1/22/2010 6:18 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: 1. Spamhaus has banned Google Public DNS resolver queries. I didn't know this until today. If Postfix is using Google Public DNS resolvers, rbl queries to zen.spamhaus.org fail but Postfix (Debian Lenny 2.5.5-1.1) logs NOTHING about it. Not the quer

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Kenneth Marshall put forth on 1/22/2010 8:39 AM: > pdns-recursor 3.1.7.2 is easy to configure/use and has a tuneable > resource footprint. Got her installed, configured, up and running. Let's see if this improves this spamhaus situation, and a handful a day of other dns related errors I've been

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:40:03AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Kenneth Marshall put forth on 1/22/2010 8:39 AM: > > > pdns-recursor 3.1.7.2 is easy to configure/use and has a tuneable > > resource footprint. > > Got her installed, configured, up and running. Let's see if this improves > this

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Noel Jones put forth on 1/22/2010 10:00 AM: > Nothing is logged because the DNS server gives an authoritive "does not > exist" answer. That's not an error, it is the expected response when a > client is not listed in an RBL. Hi Noel, I was not venting at Postfix, or Wietse, or any of the devs f

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Goodge
On 22/01/2010 16:58, Stan Hoeppner wrote: My venting should be aimed at Spamhaus. What they've done here is the opposite of transparency. In the case of Google DNS, Spamhaus has pulled something a bit underhanded in my estimation. They don't want people using Google DNS to query Spamhaus zone

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Larry Stone
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Stan Hoeppner wrote: My venting should be aimed at Spamhaus. What they've done here is the opposite of transparency. In the case of Google DNS, Spamhaus has pulled something a bit underhanded in my estimation. They don't want people using Google DNS to query Spamhaus zone

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark Goodge put forth on 1/22/2010 11:07 AM: > It's not the fault of > Spamhaus, Google or Postfix if people don't RTFM. I'll give you that. I'd been using zen for years, and sbl-xbl for years before that. When I changed my resolvers to Google from my current provider's (for performance reasons,

Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Ruben Safir
Hello I have this puzzle that I can't figure out. I had my mailing list working on openSuSE 11.2 with postfix and majordomo. I've been using majordomo on sendmailf or years with no trouble. I moved to postfix with no trouble and now, suddenly I'm getting nothing through to my lists. I know this

Re: SOLVED: rbl check being skipped - Postfix logs no error on NXDOMAIN, does on SERVFAIL

2010-01-22 Thread Noel Jones
On 1/22/2010 10:58 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Noel Jones put forth on 1/22/2010 10:00 AM: Nothing is logged because the DNS server gives an authoritive "does not exist" answer. That's not an error, it is the expected response when a client is not listed in an RBL. Hi Noel, I was not venting a

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:10:51PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > Aliases look like this > > majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" This script will run as "nobody" unless a non-root user owns the "aliases.db" file from which this alias is read. All tutorials on integratin

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Victor Duchovni: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:10:51PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > Aliases look like this > > > > majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" That's how I run majordomo on my machine. If I recall correctly, the wrapper program needs to be installed set-uid

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Ruben Safir
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:27:06PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > Victor Duchovni: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:10:51PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > Aliases look like this > > > > > > majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > > That's how I run majordomo on my mac

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Ruben Safir
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:18:10PM -0500, Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:10:51PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > Aliases look like this > > > > majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" > > This script will run as "nobody" unless a non-root user owns th

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Wietse Venema
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:27:06PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > If I recall correctly, the wrapper program needs to be installed > set-uid, and it needs to be configured at compile time with the > right uid/gid information. Ruben Safir: > I made it SIUD and the wrapper config-test seems to believ

Re: Changes in PCRE handling postfix etch vs lenny?

2010-01-22 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-01-21 8:23 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Thanks for the heads up. Yes, I'm using IMAP and TB3. So I'm sure > this is the same bug. Interestingly, like I said, the filter on > Sender works fine for newly arriving messages. It just doesn't work > on messages already in the inbox when running

Re: Changes in PCRE handling postfix etch vs lenny?

2010-01-22 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-01-22 5:36 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > Here's the bug: Sorry, meant to send that direct to Stan...

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/22/2010 05:22 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:27:06PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > >> If I recall correctly, the wrapper program needs to be installed >> set-uid, and it needs to be configured at compile time with the >> right uid/gid information. >> > Ruben Saf

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/22/2010 01:18 PM, Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:10:51PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > > >> Aliases look like this >> >> majordomo: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" >> > This script will run as "nobody" unless a non-root user owns the > "aliases.

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Daniel V. Reinhardt
- Original Message > From: Ruben Safir > To: Postfix users > Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 12:33:53 AM > Subject: Re: Postfix Majordomo problem > > On 01/22/2010 05:22 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:27:06PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > >> If I recall corre

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Ruben Safir: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > On 01/22/2010 05:22 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:27:06PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > >> If I recall correctly, the wrapper program needs to be installed > >> set-uid, and it needs to be configured a

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Ruben Safir
> It would help if you posted the log messages you receive along with the > information provided here: http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html. > > After you do that then we can try and help you. > > Thanks, > Daniel > > > > Thanks Daniel The relevant log area says this: an 22 17:49:47 www

Re: Postfix Majordomo problem

2010-01-22 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/22/2010 07:58 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Majordomo is a Perl script, so you can debug it with all the standard > Perl debugging features. > > This discussion is no longer appropriate for the Postfix mailing > list, so this is my last post. > Thanks for the help. What you've told me has