: models of creativity in programming
On 29 March 2010 21:25, Raoul Duke wrote:
> touche: http://www.idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm
Yes, Paul Graham really shouldn't pretend to speak on behalf of a
whole culture. Also he clearly knows nothing about the research
community
Yasmin Kafai explored the issue you're describing, Alex, in her dissertation:
http://www.amazon.com/Minds-Play-Computer-Childrens-Learning/dp/0805815139/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269897242&sr=1-4
Yasmin saw students exhibiting both bricoleur and planner characteristics,
and tried to come
On 29 March 2010 21:25, Raoul Duke wrote:
> touche: http://www.idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm
Yes, Paul Graham really shouldn't pretend to speak on behalf of a
whole culture. Also he clearly knows nothing about the research
community he rails against in the same paper:
"The wa
touche: http://www.idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:05 AM, John.Sturdy wrote:
> Unless I missed a message... no-one seems to have mentioned "Hackers and
> Painters", the essay (http://www.paulgraham.com/hp.html) and book
> (http://books.google.com/books?i
And if I could advocate going back a bit further, to look again at Raymonde
Guindon's empirical studies of design processes. While not using the language
of creativity it is relevant to the first question.
R. Guindon, “Designing the Design Process: Exploiting Opportunistic Thoughts,”
Human-Com
Unless I missed a message... no-one seems to have mentioned "Hackers and
Painters", the essay (http://www.paulgraham.com/hp.html) and book
(http://books.google.com/books?id=B4dk0tYPrckC&printsec=frontcover&dq=hackers+and+painters&source=bl&ots=PQ1k17Gj8X&sig=UddP_liM4OlzqepjSIJoELor7Bk&hl=ga&ei=Z
On 23 March 2010 14:12, Steven Clarke wrote:
> I've always found the following essay quite inspirational in the way that it
> describes two different styles of programming.
> http://www.papert.org/articles/EpistemologicalPluralism.html
Thank you Steven for this link in particular, I've been enjo
On 23 Mar 2010, at 18:02, Derek M Jones wrote:
> Lindsay,
>
>>> I think that the role of creativity in programming is vastly
>>> overestimated.
>>
>> I have to disagree, I think it is vastly underestimated.
>
> This is only because you live in a world (ie, academia)
> here the aim is to be cre
> This is only because you live in a world (ie, academia)
> here the aim is to be creative.
Of course, there are quite a range of professions that we do
identify as being 'creative', and many of those professions use
programming as a tool. I've had a number of interesting
experiences creating
Lindsay,
I think that the role of creativity in programming is vastly
overestimated.
I have to disagree, I think it is vastly underestimated.
This is only because you live in a world (ie, academia)
here the aim is to be creative.
Most algorithms are very simple and frequently used.
In fact
On 23 Mar 2010, at 17:31, wrote:
> Also relevant to this discussion is Richard Gabriel’s proposal for a Masters
> of Fine Arts in Software:
>
> http://www.dreamsongs.com/MFASoftware.html
>
I really like that idea a lot and agree with much of what he says. I've been
wanting to start doing De
alex wrote:
I imagine work has already been done in this area, could anyone
suggest references? I'd be very interested in any opinions on the
above ideas too, and on the subject of programming and creativity in
general.
You can find a general overview of creativity and theories thereof in:
Ro
Also relevant to this discussion is Richard Gabriel's proposal for a Masters of
Fine Arts in Software:
http://www.dreamsongs.com/MFASoftware.html
On 3/23/10 1:13 PM, "Neil" wrote:
It strikes me that perhaps we emphasize the role of creativity too
much in the arts. How much of what we term cre
It strikes me that perhaps we emphasize the role of creativity too
much in the arts. How much of what we term creativity is due to insane
expertise and breadth of knowledge? Cezanne had not only a new take on
capturing light, but also tremendous ability with the medium he'd
chosen (both learned and
And that reminds me of the many years of great work that has
been done by Gerhard Fischer at Boulder:
http://l3d.cs.colorado.edu/~gerhard/
See, for example, his work with the NSF Create IT programme:
http://swiki.cs.colorado.edu:3232/CreativeIT
Alan
> Another interesting take on this is creati
Another interesting take on this is creativity vs. rationale in design.
Jack Carroll hosted a workshop on this, one report of which can be found
here:
http://john.daughtryhome.com/publications/DAUGHTRY_BURGE_CARROLL_POTTS_SEN_2009.pdf
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Alan Blackwell <
alan.
steven.cla...@microsoft.com said:
> I've always found the following essay quite inspirational in
> the way that it describes two different styles of programming.
> http://www.papert.org/articles/EpistemologicalPluralism.html
I agree that essay raises interesting points, but I believe it
also h
On 23 March 2010 13:55, Lindsay Marshall
wrote:
>> I think that the role of creativity in programming is vastly
>> overestimated.
> I have to disagree, I think it is vastly underestimated.
I think I am with Lindsay here, but perhaps we are working with
different definitions of the (rather difficu
.infed.org/thinkers/et-schon.htm).
Steven
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Subject: Re: models of creativity in programming
>
> I think that the role of creativit
>
> I think that the role of creativity in programming is vastly
> overestimated.
I have to disagree, I think it is vastly underestimated.
>
> Most algorithms are very simple and frequently used.
> In fact developers seem to have a small repertoire of techniques
> they use most of the time.
Wh
Alex,
I'm wondering if models of creative processes in programming have been
proposed in the literature.
I think that the role of creativity in programming is vastly
overestimated.
Considering the case of a programmer working without a clear
specification, for example to compose some music o
See "Software Creativity 2.0" by Robert Glass for a practitioner-oriented
accessible treatment.
Its a great book that is basically written as a narrative of the author's
thoughts on programming creativity.
Since it is very accessible, very broad, and heavily grounded in
practitioner experience, It
Hi all,
I'm wondering if models of creative processes in programming have been
proposed in the literature.
It seems to me there are several models involved. Firstly, models in
a programmer's head of what a program is for and/or how it should
operate. Secondly, models in the computer, the struct
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