Reactivated old FOXil

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi all

Yes, that old wOOdy FOXil is still alive and kicking :) After several years
of silence and self-maintenance, I thought it couldn't hurt to take a look
at ProFox again. 

In the meantime I checked the 60-age mark, managed to survive 5 years as a
freelancer  (after the breakdown of the ProLib companies in 2009), and 2
years ago I changed back into employment. They offered me some obscene
amount of money to get me onboard to manage and enhance their inhouse
software. Finally I couldn't resist, even after sleeping over that decision
for three nights..   Thus now I find myself in a 9 to 18 job, with driving
86km each morning and evening  (which means starting at 7:30 and returning
at 19:30), but I'm very happy with my salary (and 30 days of payed vacations
:) )  It could be worse than that 

That one and only application I'm in charge now, manages about 60.000
customers and their investments of about 1.5 million containers (those steel
boxes for freight), which are rented out to shipping companies; with an
annual turnarount of hundreds of million euros.  All managed in a classic
VFP9 app (based on the VFX framework).  
We print about 80.000 sheets of paper every quarter (that are rental
statements for our customers) with the help of Amyuni and XFRX, and do
banktransfers of about 110 Milion euros every quarter to those customers...
Some big money is involved here.. Talking about rounding differences at
calculation time :) 

I'm stil involved a little bit in alternate dev-tools, stil dabbling around
in Servoy and Lianja, but due to that VFP job I barely have time to follow
those tools extensively.  I wish I could dedicate more time into that, but
currently I and my collegue are still burried up to the nose with software
changes and additions..

Now let's see how often I manage to chime in here :)

wOOdy

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[OT] Test

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Just checking in after several years of absence.   

I sent a more formal message yesterday, but that didn't seem to work, since 
it's not in the digest and not in the archive, but I also haven't got any 
mailer-error back?



wOOdy  


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AW: [OT] Test

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Cool. I'm a fraud.  Finally...  :)

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AW: VFP - What upgrades would VFP10 have had...

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi Kevin,

you basically described Lianja with your wishlist.  (Lianja is a SpinOff of
the Recital core, which was a FoxPro Clone on Big-Iron-boxes). They use the
VFP objectmodel, and can use an enhanced VFP-syntax or PHP, Phyton and
Javascript /Typescript (whatever you prefer)

I always coined Lianja as "this would be VFP11, if Microsoft would have been
intelligent enuf"

wOOdy


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Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Oktober 2017 14:49
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Betreff: RE: VFP - What upgrades would VFP10 have had...

1. 64bit VFP IDE for access to virtually unlimited RAM
2. 64bit compiled applications
3. Simultanous compilation to multiple target platforms: Linux, Mac, Windows
4. Add the target platform of Web and allow me to cross use business objects
I also use in desktop applications.
5. Make it as easy to develop the Web applications as it is easy to develop
desktop applications.
6. Add the target of Raspberry Pi as well for their Linux OS distros
7. While we're at it add iOS and Android phone support as a target
8. Strong typing.  I'm tired of my own coding errors. Typed issues should be
found at compile time, not during testing.  That'd save me a ton of time.
9. Keep the database agnostic nature of VFP
10. Keep the reasonable license fee, with unlimited distributions per
compiled application.

-Kevin


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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 5:14 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: VFP - What upgrades would VFP10 have had...

Alan's comment post regarding VFP not having any upgrades put me in the
realm of thinking that IF VFP development had continued what updates and
additions we could have seen.

Floor open to anyone with useful additions.

For myself I'll start off with:

   Native 64bit support
   
Dave


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AW: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi Alan,

>> I'm still unclear as to what problem it would solve. <<

You should read Elon Musk's view of the world problems. Start reading here:
https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html

The interesting part (for this thread at least) is about the climatic and 
energy problems.  We need less privately owned cars, because all cars are used 
only 10% of the day. The other 90% they just occupy space. That's where 
autonmous driving kicks in: You just call a car and it will drive to your 
location. After you're done, it just waits for the next caller.  And guess 
wwhat: The Tesla Model3 is already completely adopted to that idea. It's 
completely electronically controlled (that's why you don't find any regular 
switches, knobs or whatever, besides of the some elementary things like 
blinker, light, direction). The idea is that your car earns his money at times 
where you don't need it, by renting it to other passengers.  We could reduce 
pollution, energy-consumption and city-crowding with that concept. Just imagine 
a car which parks itself, connects to a charger by itself and drives to your 
location to pick you up. All done with AI and autonmous driving. 

wOOdy



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AW: [NF] Desktop icons for your Win10 installations

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Already since 2004 (that is: since VFP9) you can use all possible
resolutions in your desktop icon (i.e. the one you add to the VFP project
properties). 

Windows itself uses 256x256 pixel with AlphaChannel (RGB/A, 32Bit) fort he
Highresolution icons.  Thus your icon-file should at least contain the
resolutions 32, 48, 64 and 256 to show the best possible image at different
projections.

Personally I use Axialis IconWorkshop for generating those different
resolutions into one iconfile.

wOOdy


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I noticed my old 32x32 icon graphic looks grainy on a client's Win10 
desktop.  Did we ever get the ability to use a better quality icon file 
in Win10?

tia,
--Mike

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AW: [NF] Desktop icons for your Win10 installations

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Mike, if you need a sample ico file to see all possible resolutions and
color depths, then analyse this file:
http://www.axialis.com/tutorials/iw/down.ico

And read about that stuff here:
https://www.axialis.com/tutorials/tutorial-whatsanicon.html

wOOdy


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I noticed my old 32x32 icon graphic looks grainy on a client's Win10 
desktop.  Did we ever get the ability to use a better quality icon file 
in Win10?

tia,
--Mike

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AW: Adding an object to the _VFP.Objects collection

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Paul, you got it wrong. And you should have noticed it by your own: 
Intellisense doesn't show a native  Addproperty Method inside of _vfp.  
AddProperty is a regular Function:

ADDPROPERTY(_vfp, "test", 2)

This will work, but as I mentioned before: _VFP a score engine doesn't expect 
to get messed with, therefor the _VFP intellisense doesn't show that new 
member, but it stil is accessible.

wOOdy


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Eric

I think you must be mistaken ... I tried that with _VFP.AddProperty("Test",2) 
and got an OLE error code 0x80020006 Unknown name

Paul


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AW: Adding an object to the _VFP.Objects collection

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Touché ! :)


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Mea culpa ... but it was Eric who wrote:

You can _VFP.AddProperty, and the property can be an object


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AW: What would you do?

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi Michael,

even if I sound like a broken record: take a look at www.Lianja.com, and read 
first https://www.lianja.com/resources/the-lianja-vision

wOOdy


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Betreff: What would you do?

A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something 
commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer.  My 
client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. 
 Open source is probably out too.  
There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way 
he does it.
What would you do?  The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 
simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a 
internal server.  Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E.   a DBMS 
package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn.  
What would you migrate it to? 


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AW: What would you do?

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Frank,  "a couple of years ago"? 
Dude... That thing moves forward quite fast. 
It's not your father's tool anymore :)

wOOdy


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Hi wOOdy,

I did check out Lanka as well a couple years ago. It was very interesting but I 
found the pricing and what I actually need to purchase quite confusing. Besides 
that it was high on my list.



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AW: What would you do?

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Frank, just some additional food for thoughts:

Lianja does IOS, Android, Linux, MacOS, Windows apps. Either as standalone or 
as Appserver-based Apps.

You write them in whatever you like from this list: VFP, PHP, Phyton, 
Javascript, Typescript, Babel/ES6. These languages are all compiled to the same 
IL-code; thus you can interchangingly use whatever fits best for a specific 
module and you'll always find some programmers to help you out.

wOOdy


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Kevin,

does xojo do Android apps? I think that's why I dropped it from my list 
of possible new tools to learn some years ago.

Frank.


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AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP if
they would have understood the product and their users. It really deserves
more acknowledgement and help.

Personally I find Lianja the best spin-off from the original FoxPro roots.
Maybe you don't know it, but Lianja is based on Recital, which is a long
standing very stable "FoxPro on Big Iron"; it's known since 1988!  They have
their own SQLServer including ODBC drivers, their own RecitalServerPages (
*.rsp, like *.afp or *.asp), and with Lianja they made the logical evolution
towards an Application server (like Servoy and others), but can stil compile
true Standalones for Linux, Macs and Windows.  And IOS and Android of
course... 

Lianja is based on the VFP object-model with container hierarchy etc. It has
a lot of enhancements to the VFP9 syntax and language, Thus: Yes it's like
VFP 10, or maybe VP 11 in the meantime.  
And you can write your code in VFP, PHP, Phyton, JScript, TypeScript and
Babel.  Thus you always will find some programmer to maintain your apps :)

wOOdy



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Betreff: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

https://www.screencast.com/t/DSoufK8yZhYt

Maybe it's just me, but Lianja posting this ad for VFP 10 seems 
deceptive and not ethical, especially given the Chinese VFP 10 that 
we've heard about recently and is maybe a growing buzz in the community.


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AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi Bill,
how do you come to that conclusion? Lianja and Recital is surely more than a 
one-man-show. 
The lead programmer is Barry Mavin, but he has some folk behind him.

wOOdy

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Alan,

It's my understanding that Lianja is one guy, though the legality isn't in
question

Bill Anderson

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbou...@fastmail.fm>
wrote:

>
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 03:19 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
> > BTW:  The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10  :)
>
> And is one guy and of dubious legality I would think.
>
> --
>   Alan Bourke
>   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>
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AW: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi Fred,
Why not just test it on your own?  But to assure you: "Server 2016" is
basically the same kernel as Win10, thus: yes  VFP9 runs on 2016, as any
other 32bit software does. There's nothing special with a VFP9 exe.

wOOdy



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Does anyone know if VFP9 .EXEs can run on Windows Server 2016?  I don't
mean just access data on the server, actual run a runtime .EXE application
on the server itself/

Thanks,
Fred



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AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

BTW:  The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10  :)  
Since it doesn't add any significant new commands, syntax, language or
objects, I wouldn't compare it with a VFP10 enhancement level.

wOOdy

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Betreff: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

https://www.screencast.com/t/DSoufK8yZhYt

Maybe it's just me, but Lianja posting this ad for VFP 10 seems 
deceptive and not ethical, especially given the Chinese VFP 10 that 
we've heard about recently and is maybe a growing buzz in the community.


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AW: AW: VFP9 latest service pack (9.0.0.7423)

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Scan the disk for any VFP9*.dll and also the version of the MSVC*.DLLs. 

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Thanks to you and everyone else who helped on this.  I was able to 
update my local dev machine to 9.0.0.7423.  I wanted to update a 
client's installation but when I tried replacing the vfp9t.dll and 
vfp9r.dll, it made the installed app just throw C0005 errors on 
startup.  Their app was installed with Installshield (barf) back in 
2009.  Was hoping to upgrade them via this kind of change as I don't 
have access to the Installshield package.

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AW: VFP9 latest service pack (9.0.0.7423)

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

The VFP runtime installers have been on VFPX since 2014, and just have
transitioned to www.VFPX.org (which will always point to the actual
archives)

The current direct download link from there is
https://github.com/VFPX/VFPRuntimeInstallers/blob/master/VFP9SP2RT.exe 

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Installed VFP9 today on the corporate gig laptop.  Trying to find the 
runtimes to get me to 9.0.0.7423 (the last/latest/greatest).  Followed 
the links on 
https://www.berezniker.com/content/pages/visual-foxpro/vfp-90-versions.

I'm at the 9.00..5815 runtime but want the 7423 to be current.  
(Yes, you can stop laughing now since "current" and "Visual FoxPro" 
haven't been in the same church in over 13 years!)  lol

wOOdy's old site no longer is operational.  (That's where I got them in 
the past.)  I was on fox.wikis.com earlier which led me to the above 
sites.

Suggestions?

tia,
--Mike

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AW: [NF] SSD drives vs. 7200 rpm drives

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Dude... 4 Tb on a single SSD? That's like as crazy as the new Tesla Roadster :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kY6rCAuLpQ 


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For a laptop I wouldn't even consider a rotating disk. Had several classic
HDDs that crashed, but never an SSD. I first switched to SSDs eight years
ago. My current laptop has a 2 TB SSD (a single drive, wOOdy! ) and
duplicates an 80 GB VM image in less than a minute.

Classic disks are for servers or NAS storage. SSD drives are only 260 €/TB
(320 for Samsung). It's probably the cheapest way to improve performance.
Samsung has a 4 TB SSD for laptops, if you are worried about capacity (link

for wOOdy).


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AW: VFP9 Code References problem

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Hi Mike,

That box seems to miss some of the old OCX from that 2004 aera. You can
download the missing files from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10019

You will then probably also need the current versions for XML:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19662 

The Soap Toolkit isn't really needed (only if you stil use the Taskpane and
want to get the news from FoxCentral.net), but if you want, you get it here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=15489 


wOOdy


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I remote into a colleague's computer via RDP.  I open VFP and try to do 
a Code References search in a project, but it immediately asks me for a 
file location (OCX?) and then says "Class not registered" when I hit 
cancel (because it gives no name as to what it's looking for).

Ideas?  I've asked him to review and fix but am curious in the 
meanwhile.

tia,
--Mike

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AW: AW: [NF] Downloaded a graphic from the internet and now I can't recall where I got it (but need to!)

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Mike, since you want to use it on your companies website, you'd better take it 
from a licensed source like ShutterStock or Colourbox.

https://www.colourbox.com/vector/broker-sitting-at-workplace-vector-17223241
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/broker-sitting-workplace-financial-analysis-graphs-283384370


Those image-providers do regular image scans (just like you did to find it) and 
then call their legal department if in doubt.  In any way this will be more 
expensive than just buying it.

wOOdy



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recall where I got it (but need to!)


My Google Image search found this one:  
http://farmerresume.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/computer-information-research-scientist_5.jpg

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AW: [NF] Downloaded a graphic from the internet and now I can't recall where I got it (but need to!)

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Use Googles Picture search?  I immediately found that one:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/11/09/demand-is-great-for-chicago-computer-
and-information-research-scientists/

The original is from here:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/broker-sitting-workplace-financial
-analysis-graphs-283384370

wOOdy

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Betreff: [NF] Downloaded a graphic from the internet and now I can't recall
where I got it (but need to!)

Graphic:  https://www.screencast.com/t/WVAXSEUj

I downloaded this on 11/15 at 2:11pm EST but for the life of me I can't 
recall from where, and I need to cite the reference for others to 
determine if we can use the image in a website.  I had setup my browser 
to NOT keep track of history (seemed like a good idea at the time) but 
that's now screwed me.  I know the file is called jobsreport.jpg but 
that's about it.  Ugh.  My corporate day gig is a BUSINESS ANALYST now 
(which I am really liking, despite it not being developer pay-level) and 
I was using Google search, Images tab, looking for graphics to fit a 
Visio diagram I was prettying up.

I looked at the properties of the downloaded file but it didn't give me 
any clues.  I thought there was meta-data that could have indicated its 
source.

Ideas anyone?

Thanks,
--Mike

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AW: [NF] SSD drives vs. 7200 rpm drives

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Always go for the Samsung 850 SSD route.  If not for speed, then for durable
and shock-resistance reasons. 

I have my Dell Latitude 6510 with two 1TB SSDs (one is instead of the
CD-Bay) and run Win10 and some VMwares at the same time without any
degration.

wOOdy


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Well, I've been talking about it for a couple years now.  I think I'm 
going to buy a laptop this week for some Black Friday deal (hopefully) 
to get the best savings.

I bought a Surface Pro 3 from a friend last year but I'm used to a Dell 
Latitude laptop that fits in my docking stations so I'm not taking to 
the Surface Pro 3 I guess for that reason.  Plus I need to wipe his 
image (it was a buyout from his company) and hence "if I have to spend 
for that, why not just spend a little more and get a new Dell Latitude."

My question here:  I LOVE LOVE LOVE the SSD drives, but of course the 
7200 rpm drives are cheaper.  Would YOU spend the extra $$$ for the SSD 
drive (despite it also being smaller in size than the RPM drive)?

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AW: Development IDE fonts

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I'm happily using "Fira Code" from here: https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode


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I installed SourceCode Pro on my corporate gig machine today.  Just 
wondered if others have found something better they prefer in the past 
year or so?  (I found SourceCode Pro here via Ted Roche, iirc)

https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-code-pro/releases/tag/2.030R-ro%2F1.05
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AW: CompuServe forums - end of an era.

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

OzCis was surely the best tool for automating that crazy CIS interface.  Me
and my partner Andreas have even translated the manual to German and
distributed OzCis here for a whopping 5 DM! 
I still have that booklet at home  :)
  
Mine was 100015,676 
(Oh the joy of octal numbers:  10x  = 7 + 1)

wOOdy  

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I was a big fan of TAPCIS, back in the days when you had to find a
local non-toll modem to connect to, and raced to get offline as
quickly as possible to minimize the $22 an hour connect time.200
messages a day during the week, 400 a day when a new release came out.
Fun times.

CIS: 76400,2503

or INTERNET:76400.2...@compuserve.com


On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Richard Kaye  wrote:
> RIP.
>
> I remember using some freeware/shareware tool (OzCIS?) that would initiate
the dialup, download new or updated threads, and then disconnect. You could
then go through the content and write replies, etc offline. Back in the era
of 2400 baud dialup connections...
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Bourke
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:42 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: CompuServe forums - end of an era.
>
> "Dear Forum friends and family,
> We regret to inform you that the Forums will be removed from the
> CompuServe service effective *December 15, 2017*. For more than two
> decades, the CompuServe Forums paved the way for online discussions on a
> wide variety of topics and we appreciate all of the participation and
> comments you have provided over the years.All of your email, news,
weather, sports, and entertainment information
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> evaluating the content and services that are available through the
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> The CompuServe Team"
>
>
> I have fond memories of the fantastic help I got from people on
> CompuServe back in the late 90s, when I was learning Visual FoxPro.
>
> --
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AW: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

See here:
https://www.screencast.com/t/3GHnncdx8RVZ

That's a Win2016 x64 Standard (obviously in German) out of the box in a VmWare 
session.

Nothing more done than running the classic VFP9SP2RT.exe runtime installer  (to 
get the xml stack and the msvcrt.dll), and then just copying the VFP9.exe (plus 
vfp9.dll) 
Viola!  :)

wOOdy


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Hi wOOdy,

I don't currently have a Server 2016 setup, we're getting new servers in a
couple of months and want to go with the latest.  Someone told me server
2016 could not run 32 bit apps, only 64 bit, that's why I asked.


Fred

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski <juer...@wondzinski.de>
wrote:

> Hi Fred,
> Why not just test it on your own?  But to assure you: "Server 2016" is
> basically the same kernel as Win10, thus: yes  VFP9 runs on 2016, as any
> other 32bit software does. There's nothing special with a VFP9 exe.
>
> wOOdy
>
>
>
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>
> Does anyone know if VFP9 .EXEs can run on Windows Server 2016?  I don't
> mean just access data on the server, actual run a runtime .EXE application
> on the server itself/
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
>
>
>
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Re: VFP9 latest service pack (9.0.0.7423)

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the official landing page for my runtime installers is now 
www.VFPX.org
This is the follow-up for the soon defunct  Codeplex site. 

wOOdy 

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
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Gesendet: Saturday, November 18, 2017 12:25 AM
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>http://www.foxpert.com/download/runtime.html
>
>On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 5:40 PM,
> wrote:
>> Installed VFP9 today on the corporate gig laptop.  Trying to find the
>> runtimes to get me to 9.0.0.7423 (the last/latest/greatest).  Followed the
>> links on
>> https://www.berezniker.com/content/pages/visual-foxpro/vfp-90-versions.
>>
>> I'm at the 9.00..5815 runtime but want the 7423 to be current.  (Yes,
>> you can stop laughing now since "current" and "Visual FoxPro" haven't been
>> in the same church in over 13 years!)  lol
>>
>> wOOdy's old site no longer is operational.  (That's where I got them in the
>> past.)  I was on fox.wikis.com earlier which led me to the above sites.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> tia,
>> --Mike
>>
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AW: WestWind Web ClrHost and wwDotNetBridge error on Win2K3 Server

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As a totally unrelated part:  They are using a Win2003 server for
production?  
That's technology- and security- equivalent to WinXP.  

wOOdy


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My machine is Win7Pro.  This remote machine is a Windows 2003 server.  


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AW: Listbox auto-magically filters unwanted characters

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I never used any other locale than English and German, thus it would be hard
to simulate that for me. 
Why not ask the chinese VFP Guru from "VFP Advanced"?  He might even have a
patch for that!
On http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp  see point 5.

wOOdy



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I found that in WIndows 10 Home Premium, the system locale Big5 might
cause VFP's listbox not to display a row of data. When the locale was
English, all records were displayed without losing one.

Is it an expected behavior?

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AW: BitDefender Doesn't Play Well With VFP

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Just my 2 cents... Since several years I'm running without any other
additional AntiVirus Crap. The builtin Windows Defender from Win10 is
absolutely on par with all those other gimmiks. And it is integrated
seamlessly into the filestack, thus causing no additional trouble or
performance bottlenecks.

wOOdy




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AW: Windows 10 Home edition (was Re: Listbox auto-magically filters unwanted characters)

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ah that "I thought I heard"   How rumors are given birth.

Nope, there's absolutely no difference between Windows Home and Windows Pro
in regard of VFP9 

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On 2017-12-05 12:27, Man-wai Chang wrote:


I thought I heard that Home edition didn't work as well with VFP apps.  
Is that true?



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Hi Mike,

>> I'm confused?
Yes you are. :)  

First:  The MS information. Use the horizontal slider bar at the bottom of the 
table listing to scroll to the left. The first column lists the Keys. The third 
column is the "Parent", the folder where those keys are. (Those tables are 
standardized format at MS documentation, and it could well be that several 
registry keys are in different places, thus the third column would then show 
different valus. In our case they are all at the same tree-node) 

Second: If those keys aren't present, then their internal default is used. But 
if they are present, then they take precedence over the defaults.  Thus just 
add those keys and life is good. Or use the mentioned installer to see those 
Keys and their Values to magically show up.
The installer just adds those three keys, and has the benefit to do a simple 
uninstall (thus reverting them back), if you're later on don't deed those 
settings anymore (because you changed to a ODBC/OLEDB dataprovider)

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On 2017-12-01 08:15, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
> The effect which Tracy mentioned (single network user is faster than
> multiple users), is only partly related to that topic, but mostly with 
> the
> dreaded Opportunistic Locking (or short "OpLock", which corrupts our 
> CDX and
> data). SMB2/3 (as a streaming protocol) holds a local buffer to 
> accomodate
> datastreams as well as OppLocks.  The common solution is to disable 
> that
> caching, which effectively kills the OpLocks problem. For that you have 
> to
> set three Registry Keys at the CLIENT, nothing to do at server side.  
> You
> can/should check for correct settings in your app at startup, but you
> (normally) can't change those settings on the fly, since you need Admin
> Rights for that. (Thus you'd better package those into your installer)
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff686200%28WS.10%29.aspx


Hi wOOdy,

See here:  https://www.screencast.com/t/4tEaNq72

I don't see those 3 different settings (DirectoryCacheLifetime, 
FileNotFoundCacheLifetime, and FileInfoCacheLifetime) at all.  Plus, the 
middle column in the M$ page--those values all look the same:  
https://www.screencast.com/t/EErMmZ4z6r

I'm confused?

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[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi Mike,

Just to be clear: If you didn't adhere to the Rushmore-optimization topics
then they are correct, as this will definitely bring down the whole table to
the client, if VFP has to do a full-table-scan to find a record. Also any
"REPLACE ALL ..." will do the same, since data-processing is always at
client-side. Thus you'd better check your coding twice :)

Then for optimization, there are two things to check: a) Network-speed, b)
Server-Speed

a) Network-Speed in our case is depending on the use of SMB1 or SMB2/SMB3.
SMB1 is used in WinXP/Server2003, SMB2 is Vista and S2008, SMB2.1 is Win7
and S2008/R2, SMB3 is Win8 and S2012, SMB3.1 is Win10 and S2016.  SMB1 was a
block-based transfer, whereas starting with SMB2 it got a stream-based
transport. Even if you could take the easy way out and disable SMB2/3 either
on server or client side, it's not a valuable recommendation, since modern
Windows technologies are depending on those additional features of the newer
standard.  You better live with those.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2696547


The effect which Tracy mentioned (single network user is faster than
multiple users), is only partly related to that topic, but mostly with the
dreaded Opportunistic Locking (or short "OpLock", which corrupts our CDX and
data). SMB2/3 (as a streaming protocol) holds a local buffer to accomodate
datastreams as well as OppLocks.  The common solution is to disable that
caching, which effectively kills the OpLocks problem. For that you have to
set three Registry Keys at the CLIENT, nothing to do at server side.  You
can/should check for correct settings in your app at startup, but you
(normally) can't change those settings on the fly, since you need Admin
Rights for that. (Thus you'd better package those into your installer)
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff686200%28WS.10%29.aspx  

--
b) Then there are several tweaks at the server level. Unfortunately there
are a lot of Hotfixes for Server 2008, 2008/R2, 2012 and 2012/R2, which are
all related to those SMB and network problems. Thus you need those Admins to
cooperate, if they want to make their users happy, as they need to get their
server patched.

See here for Server 2008: 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2473205/list-of-currently-available
-hotfixes-for-the-file-services-technologie
See here for Server 2012:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2899011/list-of-currently-available
-hotfixes-for-the-file-services-technologie


--
Besides of those Hotfixes there are three more settings: FairShare, SMB
Signing and SMB Secure Negotiaton (if data resides on a NAS). 
Here are some links for How-To:
http://www.ryslander.com/disable-fair-sharing-in-windows-server/
http://mctexpert.blogspot.de/2011/02/disable-smb-signing.html
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2686098/-system-error-2148073478--e
xtended-error--or-invalid-signature-error-m

Also, if that dataserver is actually a HyperV hosted maschine, it should be
a Gen1 Machine, not a Gen2 (the file-extension should be *.VHD, not *.VHDX).
http://itgroove.net/thebeagle/2014/07/30/hyper-v-hellsort-of/

P.S. 
If you wonder why I have all those infos available, I just had a session
about that stuff at the german DevCon. See, you should have gone there! 

wOOdy

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AW: Adding an object to the _VFP.Objects collection

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_VFP is the object-reference to his majesty himself. You don't dare to mess
with him! :)

Or, more technically: _VFP references the core engine, _screen references
the visual existance. You can add objects to _screen, and these reflect then
as changes in _VFP.  The object collection in _VFP is dynamically rebuilt
everytime a change happen, thus it wouldn't make any sense to add something
at that low level.

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Hi all

I am trying to add a custom object to the _VFP objects collection but
without success.  Any ideas?

Thanks

Paul Newton

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Maybe you just need to go into settings / Region and language / and add the 
missing parts? Then if you have installed the language itself, then select that 
entry and choose options.   Unfortunately, in Win10 it's not that obvious (No 
visual clue) that this "Language list" is actually again clickable and then 
expanding the possible options.

wOOdy


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Betreff: Re: Windows 10 Home edition (was Re: Listbox auto-magically filters 
unwanted characters)

If you are only using US English in language settings, nothing would go bad. :)

But I noticed that some differences regarding Chinese Hong Kong
Language Pack between Home and Professional. It seemed that Win 10
Home didn't install Hong Kong's Supplementary Character Set. I didn't
noticed the same problem with my old Win 10 Professional install.

Maybe I did something wrong, needed a few more Win 10 clean installs
to verify. I needed to test more carefully.

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski <juer...@wondzinski.de> wrote:
> ah that "I thought I heard"   How rumors are given birth.
>
> Nope, there's absolutely no difference between Windows Home and Windows Pro
> in regard of VFP9
>
>
> >
> > I thought I heard that Home edition didn't work as well with VFP apps.
> > Is that true?


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AW: Issue with _cliptext

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_cliptext is a pointer to the textpart of the Windows clipboard (which also
has other representations available, like rtf or unicode). Thus if you mess
mith _cliptext in a loop, you're triggering some background tasks.  It's
better to use a local var for aggregating and then as a final step assign it
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AW: 2 VFP sessions running; 1 hangs and so does the other

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"SingleThreaded" has nothing to do with running multiple instances on the
same box. It just means that each instance does use only one main
processor-command-pipe. Which isn't even the case with VFP9, which
technically uses at least 8 threads already. (see taskmanager/details  and
add column "Threads")

Each VFP instance is completely isolated from another VFP instance, Windows
takes care of separating the memory and address-spaces for each task.  You
can't just change a memory variable and hope that it would get picked up by
another VFP session.

On a higher level, "SingleThreaded" is mostly used as in "this software can
only do one job at a time", whereas "multithreaded" often get used as in
"does multiple tasks parallel"

In your case I suspect a deadlock at the FoxUser.dbf, which is used by both
instances at the same time, since both use the same config.fpw and settings.

wOOdy


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VFP9SP2 Win7Pro

Had a long running Quickbooks query from VFP (via QODBC tool) take 
forever.  I launched a 2nd instance of VFP to work on something totally 
different.  While editing some code in a PRG, my 2nd VFP session hangs.  
I leave it, come back HOURS later, still hung.  Both VFP sessions.  I'm 
guessing this is because it's single-threaded (although I'll be the 
first to admit I'm not a threading expert).

Ideas?

Thanks,
--Curious in Maryland

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Why not just use my provided link to the three RegKeys needed? 
And yes: you don't mess with the server, the caching is at the client.

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If you're having problems with changing/adding three RegKeys, you also could 
use the Tool from Alaska Software
http://www.alaska-software.com/community/smb2.cxp, which points to 
https://www.alaska-software.com/download-center/main.cxp

You need to create an account for the download though. If you don't want to, 
then you could also find it here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aa9vwwup1u8h2zy/OPLock_Set_SMB2-infocache.msi?dl=0


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AW: 2 VFP sessions running; 1 hangs and so does the other

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi John,

Oh boy, what did I do? No, you can't add threads.  That's VFP internal, some
are used for the timer event, some for grids/browse   VFP itself is a
single-job language: You start one program and it runs til the end. That's
it. If you call a subroutine, the main program stops until the subroutine is
finished.  Single job, single thread.

We do have a "Multithread" runtime library: vfp9T.dll (T as in Thread),
which is especially useful for COM-Servers, which are called from several
threads of a webserver. It solves some issues with memory usage (since not
every Web-Session starts a new VFP), but also brings in new problems because
those user-sessions aren't completely independent.  

What you may want to play with: ParallelFox on VFPX:
https://github.com/VFPX/ParallelFox 

It is basically an extension to span new VFP tasks from within your main
program (called "worker threads") to do subroutines without halting the main
program. Coordinating those routines and getting notified about thier finish
is the complicated part, and that's what this library does quite nicely. 

wOOdy




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How do I add Threads?  I'm running Win 10 Home - do I need Pro?

John

John Weller
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> "SingleThreaded" has nothing to do with running multiple instances on the
> same box. It just means that each instance does use only one main
> processor-command-pipe. Which isn't even the case with VFP9, which
> technically uses at least 8 threads already. (see taskmanager/details  and
add
> column "Threads")


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[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Mike,

Since your VFP app runs in the context of a regular user, it is not allowed
to WRITE into the ProgramFiles tree. That's a standard Windows Security
feature since Vista. 
For older software, which does not adhere to those security guidelines,
those write attempts are rerouted to the "VirtualStore", so that the old
software does not generate an error.  The regular user/application does not
see any difference, since the "VirtualStore" is an overlay to the real
filesystem. Only if you look with activated Admin-Mode, then you see a
difference.

Each user has it's own VirtualStore area, you find it at 
%Appdata%\Local\VirtualStore\

(You know that you can use Environment variables like %temp% or %Windir%
directly at the Explorers path textbox?)

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AW: [NF] Duplicati

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Mike,
I used Duplicati  some years ago to automatically sync some folder via ftp
to a remote box.  Other than that I always was happy with RoboCopy (builtin
Windows command).

Copying open files like dbf / cdx etc is nice but renders them unusable at
the target, thus it doesn't make too much sense.  If he wants to have a
working data copy from an in-use application, then you need to build a
little helper program, which just loops through all dbfs with a simple
ADIR(aFiles, "*.DBF") and USE it, then COPY ALL WITH CDX to a different
folder. That folder is then transferred by Duplicati (or whatever tool you
prefer).  

If you have DBC bound data, then first copy that DBC to the target (also
with USE/COPY TO), then loop through the DBC based on ADBObj(aFiles,
"TABLE") and then COPY WITH CDX DATABASE .  That way the long
fieldnames etc survive.

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https://www.duplicati.com/

Anybody ever heard of this?  I see one of my competitors is using this 
software to backup and send things offsite, including a VFP app's foxpro 
table/index/memo files (even while a user has tables open).

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AW: VFP9rerr.log file supposedly created...but not there

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Additionally:
Why are you using an outdated VFP9 runtime?  The latest and greatest runtime
is version 7423 from 3.April 2009
Are you keen to explicitely experience even more than your own software
errors? Or what else reasons hinder you to just run that damn VFP9SP2RT.exe
runtime installer and be more errorfree?

Get your copy from www.vfpx.org

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Yea, you need to get used again to my strange "black" humor... 

wOOdy

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Now we're all really happy you've joined us, wOOdy. 

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RE: recno() function in tsql

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Rafael,

as soon as you got your SQL-Query from the Server it will be in a cursor at 
your VFP client.  Therefor that cursor indeed has a recno(), and that's what 
Andy is talking about. Thus Andy's solution is totally useful, as long as you 
need that result only at the VFP side.

wOOdy

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That works for dbf tables, but not for SQL Server tables

Thanks

Rafael Copquin



El 27/10/2017 a las 14:40, AndyHC escribió:
> fwiw this works -
> (use dbc, remote view, cursor adaptor, w.h.y for line 1  :-
>
> SELECT * FROM somewhere WHERE type = "myType" INTO CURSOR tmp
> SELECT RECNO() as id, * FROM tmp
>


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AW: FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

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Hi Dave,

not sure if there will be another VFP DevCon in Germany next year.  Rainer (the 
organizer) is somewhat "frustrated" currently. 
The Alaska (XBase++) group has cancelled their part of the conferences (both in 
USA and Germany), which reduces the overall count of attendees. 
For hotels and and organzing you need a substancial count of attendees; if you 
fail to reach the break-even, it doesn't make sense to loose money.   It really 
couldn't hurt to spread the word in your local groups...  

wOOdy



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Would love to come Jurgen, if only to re-ignite some old friendships but not 
enough notice to kick the bean counters into passing the capex!

Hope you have a great conference and keep us posted so next year can be 
scheduled in.

Dave




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FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

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Hi guys,
just a shameless marketing towards the 24th FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt, with
english sessions from Tamar Granor, Doug Hennig and Rick Schummer!
Especially interesting will be Doug’s newest thing: a complete rewrite of
VFP’s Project Manager, which is then called „Project Explorer“.  Also don’t
miss Rick’s session about Thor enhancements (and you could then ask for the
changes with GitHub :) or fighting DataCorruption and adding Graphics to
your apps)

Take a look at http://devcon.dfpug.de/ , you can’t get a better deal than
that.  And if that speaker list doesn’t provide you enuf value, then what
about „Plenty of german food, and free beer at night!“ :) 

It’s Thursday til Saturday  16th to 18th November, in OberUrsel, a small but
romantic town north of Frankfurt. 
No need to organize a car, you have public transportation from airport up to
the hotel.

Pricing is a little bit irritating, since there are several discounts you
could apply for if you’re a German Usergroup member, or an EarlyBird-Booker
or had previous visits.  You also could visit only one or two or all three
days… If in doubt just email the organizer directly at konfer...@dfpug.de 

Hope to see you at DevCon!


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AW: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

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Basically, the moniker "VFPA" is three things:

a) the regular 32Bit VFP9 enginge, patched with 30+ bugfixes 
b) same as a), but with a 64bit engine
c) a true 64bit compiler, which doesn't need the runtime etc

BTW, the "A" in VFPA is the next HEX sign after 9, or a 10 in Dec. But it
also fits with the "Advanced" tag :)

VFPA is already around since several years, and Mr.Chen seems to be very
knowledgable with Assembler and debugging C++ machinecode :)

Personally I use the regular 32bit version without any problems at my
customers site. It behaves just as a usual VFP9 without some quirks. I was
bitten by those report-engine bugs as well as the Grid-Optimize problem, and
with VFPA this stuff just works.  You just do a "recompile all" on your
project, put your EXE and that single VFPAR.DLL to your customer and that's
all.  One caveat: VFPA hast he language-Resource-DLL included, thus you need
different VFPAR.dll for different langauges. (Personally I don't like that
approach, since you can't run in a multi-language scenario anymore, where
VFP picks the language DLL according to the user settings)

Also I'm not really convinced about the need for the 64bit version. At least
not for existing desktop applications. As soon as you have some FLLs or OCXs
included, you're basically toasted, since you need those as a 64bit version.
Since most of the VFP specific addons are already 15 years old,  the chances
to get those vendors to compile their old stuff into a 64bit version are
somewhat desillusional.  

Then: what do you gain from a 64bit version? You don't get over the 2Gb
limit for DBFs, it's just that it can address more RAM. Ok, when did you ran
out of RAM with a VFP version, where the engine was built to work even on
PCs with as little as 64MB RAM?You also have a marketing plus, because
you're now a native 64bit app. And it may run a little bit faster because of
the unneeded 32Bit layer in Windows.  As long as you don't need any of your
old addons 

But it does have a valid usecase for Middle-tier applications, like
ActiveFoxProPages or AFPX or FIC, where the VFP engine connects directly to
64bit WebServers.
BTW: @ChristofWollenhaupt: did you already compiled the AFP engine with
VFPA? 

The third option, a true compiler, is stil work in progress. It does work,
but stil has the same restrictions as option b). Mr.Chen is working to
enhance the limitations at various parts like max. Stringlength, max DBF
size etc, but there are a lot of complications.

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AW: Fun with date calculations in VFP

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Hi Eric,

something to add to your currently blank function in your class: 

FUNCTION IsLeapYear (iYear)
RETURN NOT EMPTY(DATE(iYear,2,29))


wOOdy


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I've started a class for a C# like DateTime static class here:
https://github.com/eselje/FoxTypes/blob/master/FT_DATETIME.md



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AW: Fun with date calculations in VFP

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Hmmm.. You know that "SaltyDog" is actually Eric's page ?

wOOdy


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There's a VFP implementation of the C# String.Format() here:
http://saltydogllc.com/string-format-for-visual-foxpro/


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AW: Task Pane Manager - Community pane

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Not only is the source on GitHub, it was delivered with each and any VFP
installation. 
Look into VFP9\Tools\XSource\VFPSource\TaskPane\

You may have to unpack the XSource.zip first.

wOOdy


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The source is here Paul, maybe have a rummage through that?

https://github.com/VFPX/TaskPaneManager


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AW: Fun with date calculations in VFP

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This FirstDayOfQuarter and siblings is much easier to do:

***
FUNCTION GoQuarter(dDate, cValue)
* "L" = (L)ast day of dDate's Quarter
* "F" = (F)irst day of dDate's Quarter
* "N" = first day of (n)ext dDate's Quarter
* "P" = first day of (p)previous dDate's Quarter
***

cValue = EVL(cValue, "F")
LOCAL dResult
DO CASE
CASE cValue = "L"
dResult = 
GOMONTH(dDate,(CEILING(MONTH(dDate)/3)*3)-MONTH(dDate)+1)-DAY(dDate)
CASE cValue = "F"
dResult = 
GOMONTH(dDate,(CEILING(MONTH(dDate)/3)*3)-MONTH(dDate)-2)-DAY(dDate)+1
CASE cValue = "N"
dResult = 
GOMONTH(dDate,(CEILING(MONTH(dDate)/3)*3)-MONTH(dDate)+1)-DAY(dDate)+1
CASE cValue = "P"
dResult = 
GOMONTH(dDate,(CEILING(MONTH(dDate)/3)*3)-MONTH(dDate)-5)-DAY(dDate)+1
ENDCASE
RETURN dResult

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Lots of spare time today so some hopefully constructive criticism: :)

I would redo some of that code to get away from CTOD() as that will fail 
depending on SET STRICTDATE and if SET DATE is anything besides MDY.

I have a feeling that your first day of week and last day of week will 
be incorrect in situations with SET FDOW.

I think PARAMETERS() is also advised against and PCOUNT() is better.

I would also move each function into its own program.

For example FirstDayOfQuarter.prg would be:

LPARAMETERS tdDate

 LOCAL lnMonth as Integer, lnYear as Integer, ldDate as Date
 if PCOUNT()=0 then
 m.tdDate = date()
 endif
 m.lnYear = YEAR(m.tdDate)
 m.lnMonth = MONTH(m.tdDate)
 DO CASE
 CASE BETWEEN(m.lnMonth,1,3)
 m.ldDate = DATE(m.lnYear, 1, 1)
 CASE BETWEEN(m.lnMonth,4,6)
 m.ldDate = DATE(m.lnYear, 4, 1)
 CASE BETWEEN(m.lnMonth,7,9)
 m.ldDate = DATE(m.lnYear, 7, 1)
 OTHERWISE && CASE BETWEEN(m.lnMonth,10,12)
 m.ldDate = DATE(m.lnYear, 10, 1)
 ENDCASE
 return ldDate


Frank.


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AW: [NF] A Question of CPU Upgrade...

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

I wouldn't touch the CPU, not worth the hassle with mounting and thermal
reconnect.

If you want to upgrade, change your HD to a SSD. This is the most noticible
change you can do.

wOOdy


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AW: Nothing like a cryptic error to start the work week!

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Ok so we all now know that you payed 100 USD to NerdyIT.  But where's the
real screenshot with your errormessage?

wOOdy


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VFP9SP2, Win7Pro, MySQL backend
Screenshot:  https://www.screencast.com/t/QKA2etzLnW

I've searched frmEditJob.scx in the Code References for any text of IMG 
and it found nothing.  Ugh.  Now how to track down this new mystery?


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AW: Nothing like a cryptic error to start the work week!

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Maybe that IMG is referenced somewhere in toJob?  Does that error occur
always, or only with that particular job? 

Maybe frmEditJob is based on some classes, which then reference that IMG ?


wOOdy


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On 2018-06-25 10:58, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> VFP9SP2, Win7Pro, MySQL backend
> Screenshot:  https://www.screencast.com/t/QKA2etzLnW
> 
> I've searched frmEditJob.scx in the Code References for any text of
> IMG and it found nothing.  Ugh.  Now how to track down this new
> mystery?



Ooops...wrong screenshot!  Here's the right one:  
https://www.screencast.com/t/qdzgy9RnGF

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Reactivated old FOXil

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi all

Yes, that old wOOdy FOXil is still alive and kicking :) After several years
of silence and self-maintenance, I thought it couldn't hurt to take a look
at ProFox again. 

In the meantime I checked the 60-age mark, managed to survive 5 years as a
freelancer  (after the breakdown of the ProLib companies in 2009), and 2
years ago I changed back into employment. They offered me some obscene
amount of money to get me onboard to manage and enhance their inhouse
software. Finally I couldn't resist, even after sleeping over that decision
for three nights..   Thus now I find myself in a 9 to 18 job, with driving
86km each morning and evening  (which means starting at 7:30 and returning
at 19:30), but I'm very happy with my salary (and 30 days of payed vacations
:) )  It could be worse than that 

That one and only application I'm in charge now, manages about 60.000
customers and their investments of about 1.5 million containers (those steel
boxes for freight), which are rented out to shipping companies; with an
annual turnarount of hundreds of million euros.  All managed in a classic
VFP9 app (based on the VFX framework).  
We print about 80.000 sheets of paper every quarter (that are rental
statements for our customers) with the help of Amyuni and XFRX, and do
banktransfers of about 110 Milion euros every quarter to those customers...
Some big money is involved here.. Talking about rounding differences at
calculation time :) 

I'm stil involved a little bit in alternate dev-tools, stil dabbling around
in Servoy and Lianja, but due to that VFP job I barely have time to follow
those tools extensively.  I wish I could dedicate more time into that, but
currently I and my collegue are still burried up to the nose with software
changes and additions..

Now let's see how often I manage to chime in here :)

wOOdy

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AW: [OT] Test

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Using a different sender email now .. 

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AW: [OT] Test

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Another test about frauding the list... 

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AW: [OT] Test

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I first used "juergen @ woody-soft.de" which is tied / aliased to an
office365 server which originates as "juergen @ wondzinski.onmicrosoft.com"
. This seems to be too much for a simple list server, even though the SPFs
seems to be ok.. I now joined with my private email "juergen @
wondzinski.de", this seems to work..
 

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Will the real Jurgen please stand up!

;-)

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WG: recno() function in tsql

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Rafael Copquin [mailto:rafael.copq...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 17:09
An: Jürgen Wondzinski <juer...@wondzinski.de>
Betreff: Re: AW: recno() function in tsql

Hi Woody

It's been a long time! Welcome back!

FYI, I always build all my tables with autoincrementing primary keys. In 
this particular case the table I am dealing with has 1 records. The 
primary keys go from 1 to 1.

But i want to select a small set based on a date range (it is a sales table)

I just want the first column of the selected cursor to contain the 
record number and the other columns the rest of the data.

So I should be getting something like this:

RecordNoIDDate   etc

15421   2017-06-15

25422   2017-06-15

35423   2017-06-16

etc

Rafael



El 26/10/2017 a las 12:00, Jürgen Wondzinski escribió:
> In SQL each record has to have a PrimaryKey (Field) for identifying it, since 
> SQL doesn't know of records, it knows about result-sets instead.
>
> The RECNO() in xBase is just the same concept: a unique identifier for the 
> current session, not meant for a longterm relation setting.  If you designed 
> your SQL table without a unique identifier, then you're out of luck :)
>
>
> wOOdy
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Rafael Copquin
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 16:34
> An: profox
> Betreff: recno() function in tsql
>
> Is there an equivalent to the VFP recno() function in T-SQL?
>
> I'd like to create the following select statement in T-SQL:
>
> select recno(),otherfields. from database.dbo.table
>
> If there is not, what would be a substitute?
>
> Rafael Copquin
>
>
>
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WG: recno() function in tsql

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Von: rafael.copquin [mailto:rafael.copq...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 22:09
An: Jürgen Wondzinski <juer...@wondzinski.de>
Betreff: RE: AW: AW: recno() function in tsql

That's it. Thank you
Rafael 



Enviado desde mi dispositivo Samsung


 Mensaje original ----
De: Jürgen Wondzinski <mailto:juer...@wondzinski.de> 
Fecha: 26/10/2017 12:18 (GMT-03:00) 
A: 'Rafael Copquin' <mailto:rafael.copq...@gmail.com> 
Asunto: AW: AW: recno() function in tsql 

Hi Rafael,

ah, you want a freshly generated SEQUENCE number of your foundset. 
See this:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1310/how-can-i-create-a-temporary-sequence-column-in-my-sql-query-result

wOOdy


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Von: Rafael Copquin [mailto:rafael.copq...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 17:09
An: Jürgen Wondzinski
Betreff: Re: AW: recno() function in tsql

Hi Woody

It's been a long time! Welcome back!

FYI, I always build all my tables with autoincrementing primary keys. In 
this particular case the table I am dealing with has 1 records. The 
primary keys go from 1 to 1.

But i want to select a small set based on a date range (it is a sales table)

I just want the first column of the selected cursor to contain the 
record number and the other columns the rest of the data.

So I should be getting something like this:

RecordNoIDDate   etc

15421   2017-06-15

25422   2017-06-15

35423   2017-06-16

etc

Rafael



El 26/10/2017 a las 12:00, Jürgen Wondzinski escribió:
> In SQL each record has to have a PrimaryKey (Field) for identifying it, since 
> SQL doesn't know of records, it knows about result-sets instead.
>
> The RECNO() in xBase is just the same concept: a unique identifier for the 
> current session, not meant for a longterm relation setting.  If you designed 
> your SQL table without a unique identifier, then you're out of luck :)
>
>
> wOOdy
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Rafael Copquin
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 16:34
> An: profox
> Betreff: recno() function in tsql
>
> Is there an equivalent to the VFP recno() function in T-SQL?
>
> I'd like to create the following select statement in T-SQL:
>
> select recno(),otherfields. from database.dbo.table
>
> If there is not, what would be a substitute?
>
> Rafael Copquin
>
>
>
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AW: recno() function in tsql

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

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Von: Jürgen Wondzinski [mailto:juer...@wondzinski.de] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 17:19
An: 'Rafael Copquin' <rafael.copq...@gmail.com>
Betreff: AW: AW: recno() function in tsql

Hi Rafael,

ah, you want a freshly generated SEQUENCE number of your foundset.
See this:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1310/how-can-i-create-a-temporary-sequence-column-in-my-sql-query-result

wOOdy


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Von: Rafael Copquin [mailto:rafael.copq...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 17:09
An: Jürgen Wondzinski
Betreff: Re: AW: recno() function in tsql

Hi Woody

It's been a long time! Welcome back!

FYI, I always build all my tables with autoincrementing primary keys. In
this particular case the table I am dealing with has 1 records. The
primary keys go from 1 to 1.

But i want to select a small set based on a date range (it is a sales table)

I just want the first column of the selected cursor to contain the
record number and the other columns the rest of the data.

So I should be getting something like this:

RecordNoIDDate   etc

15421   2017-06-15

25422   2017-06-15

35423   2017-06-16

etc

Rafael



El 26/10/2017 a las 12:00, Jürgen Wondzinski escribió:
> In SQL each record has to have a PrimaryKey (Field) for identifying it, 
> since SQL doesn't know of records, it knows about result-sets instead.
>
> The RECNO() in xBase is just the same concept: a unique identifier for the 
> current session, not meant for a longterm relation setting.  If you 
> designed your SQL table without a unique identifier, then you're out of 
> luck :)
>
>
> wOOdy
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Rafael 
> Copquin
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 16:34
> An: profox
> Betreff: recno() function in tsql
>
> Is there an equivalent to the VFP recno() function in T-SQL?
>
> I'd like to create the following select statement in T-SQL:
>
> select recno(),otherfields. from database.dbo.table
>
> If there is not, what would be a substitute?
>
> Rafael Copquin
>
>
>
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AW: recno() function in tsql

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Somehow Rafael replied to my private email address, not to ProFox.  I forwarded 
the relevant parts now to the list :)

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 22:15
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Betreff: Re: recno() function in tsql

I only see Jurgen's statement, noting from you in my current email.  Then
this popped in as I was writing.  "Yes. After I read Woody's example I
checked the SQL help an now see how to use it.tksRafael "

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:10 PM, rafael.copquin 
wrote:

>
>
> Look at the example in my earlier reply to WoodyRafael
>
>
> Enviado desde mi dispositivo Samsung
>
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AW: recno() function in tsql

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Yep.  Great minds think alike :) 

wOOdy

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Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Oktober 2017 11:42
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Same solution as I posted earlier

Dave



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AW: recno() function in tsql

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... Old farts stink alike ... :) 

wOOdy

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Fools seldom differ of course

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AW: recno() function in tsql

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

In SQL each record has to have a PrimaryKey (Field) for identifying it, since 
SQL doesn't know of records, it knows about result-sets instead.
  
The RECNO() in xBase is just the same concept: a unique identifier for the 
current session, not meant for a longterm relation setting.  If you designed 
your SQL table without a unique identifier, then you're out of luck :)


wOOdy

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 16:34
An: profox
Betreff: recno() function in tsql

Is there an equivalent to the VFP recno() function in T-SQL?

I'd like to create the following select statement in T-SQL:

select recno(),otherfields. from database.dbo.table

If there is not, what would be a substitute?

Rafael Copquin



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AW: [NF] Printer brands

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

I can recommend the Epson Workforce series. Very fast, durable and good
printing quality. Very low power consumption, and the ink is instantly dry,
and waterproof and even marker-resistant.  
https://epson.com/For-Work/Printers/Inkjet/c/w110?q=%3Aprice-asc%3Adiscontin
uedFlag%3Afalse%3APrinters+Facets%2CPrimary+Use%3AFor+Business%3APrinters+Fa
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One customer of mine has about 25 of them (WF-5110) and they definitely are
well equipped for business use. I especially like the big ink-cartriges
which are very maintenence-free and replacable even by the typical
office-dummy.


They also provide a series with huge ink-bottles:
https://epson.com/ecotank-super-tank-printers

as well as 100 pages per minute highspeed printers: 
https://epson.com/For-Work/Printers/Inkjet/WorkForce-Enterprise-WF-C20590-A3
-Color-Multifunction-Network-Printer/p/C11CE47201

wOOdy


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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2018 09:46
An: profox@leafe.com
Betreff: [NF] Printer brands

Hi all

I am having ongoing problems with my Lexmark X543 multifunction colour laser
printer (with automatic duplex).  It seems that it would be uneconomic to
repair so I am looking for a replacement.  So far I have shortlisted three
models from three different manufacturers - HP, Brother and OKI.  I am
tempted by the OKI (MC562dnw) because it is shipped with 2K toners and has a
free 3 year on-site warranty.  Has anybody had experience (good or bad) with
printers from this manufacturer?

I am not that keen on the HP (LaserJet Pro M281fdw) because it uses a
composite CMY cartridge instead of separate C, M and Y cartridges.

Thanks

Paul Newton

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AW: Every day a school day.

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

See, you just have to read the whole VFP helpfile, from Start to End, and 
presto: you'll find a lot of helpful commands and functions you always wanted 
to have but never knew they existed!

And the best thing is: This helpfile will never change again! No more lousy 
updates, you learn once and use it forver.

Bummer: This you could have done 14 years ago already.

:)

wOOdy


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Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Paul H. Tarver
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juli 2018 14:02
An: profox@leafe.com
Betreff: Re: Every day a school day.

Yep. Just about the time I think I’m a FoxPro expert, I discover a command I’ve 
never used, a procedure I’ve never tried or a shortcut I didn’t know about!

I’ve been using FoxPro since the DOS days, so exactly when will I stop feeling 
like an amateur? :)

Paul



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AW: Coverage profiler

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

This CVP profiler is found here:
http://gorila.netlab.cz/cvp.html

wOOdy


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Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Richard Kaye
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2018 17:20
An: profox@leafe.com
Betreff: RE: Coverage profiler

I also use CVP on occasion. I probably have the installer somewhere and can 
send directly to you if you want.

--

rk

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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank Cazabon
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 10:50 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Coverage profiler

The only thing I can think of is CVP. I have version 1.19.18 and it was 
written by Martina Jindrová. Can't remember where I downloaded it from 
but maybe Level extreme (formerly Universal Thread) or Foxite.

Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 05/07/2018 10:24 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> VFP9SP2 on Win7Pro PC
>
> I want to see how long it's taking some code to run.  Beyond 
> self-created start/stop variables, I thought "why not use the coverage 
> profiler?"  MANY years ago, I recall there was some sort of 
> alternative cool tool to the native Coverage Profiler but I can't 
> recall the specifics.  Markus Egger comes to mind.  I did a search of 
> the ProFox archives for "coverage profile" but found nothing across 
> the entire archive (https://www.screencast.com/t/FF8gEjeK5DeP).  I 
> found this in the ProFox downloads area but I haven't used that before 
> (yet): http://leafe.com/download/cvp_1.18._9_20090211.zip.  I 
> found this link when searching for Markus Egger Coverage Profiler 
> (http://www.scrigroup.com/calculatoare/tutorials/434/The-Coverage-Profiler33512.php)
>  
> but the reference at the end to http://www.eps-software.com/ is a 
> fruitless end as I can't seem to search that site; it just asks you 
> which CoDE site you want to visit.
>
> Do any of you have Markus' old CP Analyzer tool or what's your 
> recommendation for analyzing code performance in your VFP code?
>
> tia,
> --Mike
>
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AW: Coverage profiler (DISREGARD...I FOUND IT -- MAXCOV.APP) (ED -- PROBLEM WITH FILE UPLOAD TO PROFOX DOWNLOADS PAGE)

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

The developer is a SHE, and she's the driving force behind XFRX. 
You can also find her on Foxite.

wOOdy


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Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Eric Selje
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Juli 2018 18:17
An: ProFox Email List 
Betreff: Re: Coverage profiler (DISREGARD...I FOUND IT -- MAXCOV.APP) (ED -- 
PROBLEM WITH FILE UPLOAD TO PROFOX DOWNLOADS PAGE)

If anyone knows the developer, reach out and see if this can become a VFPx
Project for better discoverability.

E

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Fernando D. Bozzo 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here is the link for CVP.EXE, it's an excellent tool I'd use many times:
>
> http://gorila.netlab.cz/cvp.html
>
> Regards.-
>
>
>
> 2018-07-05 17:08 GMT+02:00 :
>
> > I found Markus' add-in in an old dev folder.  It's called MaxCov.app.  I
> > tried uploading it to the ProFox downloads site but got the following
> error:
> >
> > 400 Bad Request
> > The server could not comply with the request since it is either malformed
> > or otherwise incorrect.
> >
> > No file specified
> >
> >
> > I selected the file via the button so I know it's there.
> >
> > Ed -- problem behind the scenes with the file uploader???
> >
> > --Mike
> >
> >
> > On 2018-07-05 10:49, Frank Cazabon wrote:
> >
> >> The only thing I can think of is CVP. I have version 1.19.18 and it
> >> was written by Martina Jindrová. Can't remember where I downloaded it
> >> from but maybe Level extreme (formerly Universal Thread) or Foxite.
> >>
> >> Frank.
> >>
> >> Frank Cazabon
> >>
> >> On 05/07/2018 10:24 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> VFP9SP2 on Win7Pro PC
> >>>
> >>> I want to see how long it's taking some code to run.  Beyond
> >>> self-created start/stop variables, I thought "why not use the coverage
> >>> profiler?"  MANY years ago, I recall there was some sort of alternative
> >>> cool tool to the native Coverage Profiler but I can't recall the
> >>> specifics.  Markus Egger comes to mind.  I did a search of the ProFox
> >>> archives for "coverage profile" but found nothing across the entire
> archive
> >>> (https://www.screencast.com/t/FF8gEjeK5DeP).  I found this in the
> >>> ProFox downloads area but I haven't used that before (yet):
> >>> http://leafe.com/download/cvp_1.18._9_20090211.zip.  I found this
> >>> link when searching for Markus Egger Coverage Profiler (
> >>> http://www.scrigroup.com/calculatoare/tutorials/434/The-
> >>> Coverage-Profiler33512.php) but the reference at the end to
> >>> http://www.eps-software.com/ is a fruitless end as I can't seem to
> >>> search that site; it just asks you which CoDE site you want to visit.
> >>>
> >>> Do any of you have Markus' old CP Analyzer tool or what's your
> >>> recommendation for analyzing code performance in your VFP code?
> >>>
> >>> tia,
> >>> --Mike
> >>>
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AW: Performance issues on virtual 2K12 server

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Take a look here:
http://www.ryslander.com/disable-fair-sharing-in-windows-server/

and here: 
http://www.examhand.com/Download/VFPSlowExecutiononServer2012.pdf




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An: ProFox 
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Client moved from old virtual 2K3 server to newer 2K12 server.  They use 
an IT vendor to manage all of their IT setup.  They connect via Terminal 
Services if I understand correctly.  Apparently this legacy VFP 
application is run from the server by all users.  Performance is 
inconsistent, with many times it getting almost frozen for some unknown 
reason.  Other times it's fine.  No good rhyme/reason standing out.  A/V 
and other scans have the VFP app and data folders excluded (or so I'm 
told).  For those who have worked with VFP apps in TS mode, any tips?

tia,
--Mike

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A lot of Jun's stuff is on VFPX. The correct download area for those should
be
www.VFPX.org, then look for "ssClasses", 

which will bring you to
https://github.com/VFPX/ssClasses


Unfortunately, the DateTime picker is not part of those:
http://sandstorm36.blogspot.de/2017/12/dtpickerx-december-2017-version.html

You need to subscribe to his "Ultimate Library":
http://sandstorm36.blogspot.de/2015/12/whats-on-ssultimate-library.html
Which is absolutely worth the money.
You surely will have a different mindset about his usage of colors, fonts
and bitmaps, but those you always can change to your likings :)




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Not sure how difficult it is to recognize that green button on the right
side, with caption = "Clone or download"

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I want to play gain. How can I download  the latest project files. I'm
looking at OOP menu, THOR etc.
Mike


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AW: AVFP - was [NF] Reporting in Python (Django)

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Hi Andy,

Active FoxPro Pages (or AFP in short) was originally created by Prolib. After 
the insolvency in 2009 it was taken over by one of the largest user (BVL) and 
later on it moved to Christof Wollenhaupt's company FoxPert (who was the main 
product-developer at ProLib)

Thus if you look for www.Active-FoxPro-Pages.com or www.AFPages.com  you'll end 
up at http://afpages.foxpert.net/

AFPages still works as expected on any Windows-based Webserver. 

wOOdy




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Betreff: AVFP - was [NF] Reporting in Python (Django)

Reading Thierry Nivelet's accurate description of the problems of using 
a Web Application as an end-user business solution (and his advocacy for 
FoxInCloud),   I started wondering what happened to AVFP (Active Visual 
Foxpro pages).
I got a couple of trivial web pages working based on their examples, but 
after CodePlex folded AVFP seemed to disapper as well (just a 
downloadable on the CodePlex archive site).
Anybody know what happened to it?  (For those who don't know it, it 
enables native VFP on a web server, in a similar manner to the original 
ASP).

p.s. iirc there used to be a similar ASP-alike for Python as part of 
XAMPP, but the Python bit got deprecated.


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AW: Fun (not) with the report writer

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Hi Richard,

you may want to test with the 32Bit version of VFPA ("A" as the hex
representation of "10")
There are some Reportwriter-related problems fixed:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/default.asp

See http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp for infos and download
(you want to download the "VFP extended 32 bit" version)

For installation you need a valid VFP9 version installed, which the
installer then copies to a new VFPA directory and patches the EXE and DLLs
to the VFPA level. You need to do a "Recompile All" with your project, and
then copy the runtime file (now only one!) plus your new exe to your
customers directory. That's it.

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HAVING is basically a Post-Processing of the SQL-Result. Therefor HAVING
uses the newly defined column names, not the original field names:

SELECT ZipCode, count(*) AS HowMany FROM Adresses GROUP BY 1 WHERE State =
"TX" HAVING HowMany > 1000 



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Yup, it's like a "where" but it acts kind of after the grouping so you 
can use aggregate functions to limit the output.




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AW: _VFP vs _SCREEN

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Think of _VFP as "the engine" and _SCREEN as the "visual representation". 
Don't fiddle with the engine!

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Gesendet: Montag, 19. März 2018 21:21
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Betreff: _VFP vs _SCREEN

(I checked the ProFox archive but searching for _VFP _SCREEN (with 
underscore, with underscored escaped, and without underscore) did not 
turn up any matches or at least the ones applicable).  I know we've 
discussed this somewhere in the past but could not find the reference.)

I was adding another "global" application attribute for a signal flag 
for later code to reference, and I realized I've always used the _SCREEN 
object.  Would seem more logical to reference the _VFP object.  Your 
thoughts on this design decision?

tia,
--Michael

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AW: Anyone remember this?

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No picture in your posting... 

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Betreff: Anyone remember this?

Hi all,

 

I was digging through some boxes and saw this shirt.. Too bad it no longer
applies, that was a good decade.. J  For those of you who don't get it, at
one Devcon, a number of us realized that we were all turning 40 the same
year. Which means that many of us are probably turning 60 this year.. 

 

Anyway, it's good to see all the chatter still going on this list! 

 

Fletcher

 

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AW: ActiveX control refuses to register

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A simple google for "CRVIEWER INSTALL PROBLEM" reveals a lot of solutions. 
Most of them are pointing to missing subcomponents of the crviewer.dll.
You could use the DEPENDECY tool to look for missing components of the
viewer on those PCs.
http://www.dependencywalker.com/

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AW: FRX and window envelopes

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Hi Richard,

That's why there's a Report header, which only prints once.  You would use
that for your first page.

Then, you print a report for each record separately

SELECT YourAdressTable
SCAN  FOR YourCondition
   REPORT NEXT 1 FORM MyList.frx TO PRINTER NOCO
ENDSCAN


You could also add some code into that loop to watch for some abort keypress
etc




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Betreff: FRX and window envelopes

While I start my own research, I thought I should call on the wisdom of the
collective. Here's the goal. I have a number of client facing reports with
address blocks. They may be one page. They may be many pages. I want to be
able to fold the report to fit in a standard windowed envelope and not have
any of the detail appear in the window. This requires a fixed location for
the detail to start on the first page. I would like to reclaim some portion
of that space for additional pages as the address block will not print on
page 2 and after. What are some tricks to get a fixed height header on page
1 but not on subsequent pages?

TIA

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AW: VFP file types in explorer

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Hi Paul,

a) When running the /REGSERVER thingy, make sure you do it from within a
cmd-window with explicit administrator rights activated.

b) you may also want to run the VFPCLEAN.APP from the HOME(0) directory (two
times, selecting both dialog options, just to be doublesave :) ) 


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RE: So, about this VFPA thing...

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Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex notation
of "10")

a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This implies that
it's stil a 23Bit version.
This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new
directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other files
of your VFP9 source directory.  Thus, after installation you just rename the
old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename the new directory to
the original name, and all your Registrykeys and Links will work without
interruption.

b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables. 
Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would ever need
it, but:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp



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Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...

Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and supports
64 bits.

Before I download something, am I on the right site: 
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?

Thanks!





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AW: Calling code in parent's parent class

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Sounds a little bit like "bad design", but if life demands such
constructs

You can always get the code from the upmost level by using the "QuatroDot"
operator  ::
like  class::MyMethod()

If you would need one in between, then you need to do some clever IF
branching in the beginning of each level's code by providing a parameter
when calling the method:

PROC MyMethod
LPARAMETER lSkipIt
IF lSkipIt
RETURN DODEFAULT()
ENDIF
&& regular code goes here


wOOdy


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Betreff: Calling code in parent's parent class

Hi all
Let's say that I have the following situation:

GreatGrandParent -> GrandParent -> Parent -> Class

In Class I want to bypass the code in Parent but call the code in either
GrandParent OR GreatGrandParent.

Is this possible and, if so, how?  Many thanks

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AW: [NF] TeamViewer alternatives

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Hi Mike,

Same problems with TeamViewer at my side. Nozt only got it very expensive, the 
product grew to a moloch with lots of useless features (at least for me).

I'm now using www.AnyDesk.com, which is much less expensive, less cluttered and 
just works.

wOOdy


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I bought a TeamViewer (TV) license a few years back and it's the purchased 
one-and-done lifetime license.  TeamViewer's business model has changed and 
they've been pushing annual licenses now for over a year.  I like my TV license 
and it works great for me; I don't see the need to upgrade to the latest.  That 
said, I wondered if others are using another tool they enjoy and isn't 
expensive.  Prior to TV, I used to use LogMeIn (LMI) but then their licensing 
prices went up too.

What's your current remote support tool of choice (other than UltraVNC etc.  I 
wasn't a fan of VNC as YES, IT WORKED, but it wasn't as easy and user-friendly 
as TV or LMI.  My clients on the other end of the support connection are NOT 
tech folks.  I needed it to be super simple and that's what TV/LMI gave me.

tia,
--Mike



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The reason why MS doesn't care about VFPA is simple. For example in Germany
we have a law, that the user is allowed to fix bugs by himself, if the
vendor is not willing to do so.  Similar law seems to exist in USA ("Right
to repair act"). If MS would go against it, they would have to fix those
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AW: So, about this VFPA thing...

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The 2Gb limitation is in the DBF structure. DBFs and CDX could grow into 
Terabytes without problems. It's just that good old dBase has decided to set 
the maximum filesize to 2Gb (which was the max harddisk size at that time).

You may have heard about "Advantage Database Server", originally from Extended 
Systems, later on acquired by Sybase, later on acquired by SAP.  That ADS 
server is based on DBFs as internal datastructure. They have two modes: VFP 
compatible (then you can add a true MultiTier Server on top of your existing 
DBC/DBF/CDX), and the extended version, which alters the DBF-header (and 
renames them to ADT) and is then limited at only disksize (or 2 billion records 
at 65k each = 6.55e+16 tablesize)
 
I once spoke with one of the developers of Extended Systems, why they stil use 
the DBF file structure. He told me that the VFP tables and indices are stil the 
fastest ISAM based structure, and together with their own SQL engine based on 
top of that (they also have their own Rushmore-like optimizer) they are stil 
faster than traditional better-known Dataservers. Unfortunately, MS prohibits 
publishing of speedtests in their license, but one should think why SAP has 
acquired them... 

For more info:
https://www.sap.com/products/advantage-database-server.html

wOOdy


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Betreff: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...

On 11/26/2019 12:32 PM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
> Technically, what VPA is doing is actually not intended by its owner, MS.

...which is why I was surprised M$ did nothing to stop it.


>
> Anyway, it is definitely interesting enough that I plan on working with it.
> I would love larger DBF capacities too, but I will not quibble. The 
> guy is doing some amazing stuff. I hope he reaps big rewards from it somehow.


Wait...does it allow the 2GB ceiling per file (DBF, CDX, FPT, etc.) to be 
lifted?  I missed that if so.  ???


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AW: So, about this VFPA thing...

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

As I already wrote it: No, you don't download a hacked version of VFP9. You
download a patcher, which copies your already installed VFP9 into a new
directory, and then patches the various bugs. All patches are documented,
and you could easily do a diff on the original and the patched version.

Sometimes it would help to get off that Trump-level paranoia :)

wOOdy



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Betreff: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...

If you want to download a Chinese hacked version of Visual Foxpro, yep.

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AW: How common is Table Buffering with DBFs??

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Table buffering is very common. Basically all frameworks are using it. 
Can't do any decent multiuser handling without it.
Yes you could do a simplier record-buffering mode, but as soon as you are faced 
with the typical 1:n editform, then you would need to have tablebuffering 
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AW: So, about this VFPA thing...

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DBFs aren't unstable. In contrary they are one of the most stable storage
options we have. Simple structure, easy to read and write, fast access. As
long as you use them locally, there's no better engine.  And that's why ADS
is stil using them: they have a pure local access with their C/S engine. 
What made them problematic and bad-mouthed are the classic multiuser network
problems, with a real file-access and data-transport over cable or WLAN you
are always prone to problems. 
Thus, it would be better to state: For local data manipulation / massage /
extraction, VFP and DBFs are stil king; and for MultiUser you better use any
kind of C/S.

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Betreff: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...

On 11/27/2019 3:47 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
>> Charlie,
>>
>> To respond to your wish for larger DBF capacities.
> There's also Advantage Database Server (now owned by SAP) which lets you
work with DBF\CDX\FPT over 4GB.


Ever since I switched to MySQL (and later MariaDB) back in 2004, I've never
wanted to go back to DBFs for major app tables. Never.


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AW: SQL Dump

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Or maybe just use the Upsizing wizard from vfpx.org ?

wOOdy

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Hi All

Is there any tricks I am missing which would speed up a dump of a VFP table
into a SQL table.

I have predifined by SQL statement something like this

"insert into mytable (myfield) values (?m.myfield)"

I am then scanning through the VFP table performing a scatter memvar and
then executing the SQL.

It works it just seems to take alot longer than I imagined it would.

Thanks IA

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AW: [NF] TeamViewer alternatives

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My recommended AnyDesk is very similar to Teamviewer, with similar capabilities 
(like compressed delta datatransfer etc), but only 1/3 of pricing.  They also 
have a free version.

wOOdy


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The File Transfer feature in TeamViewer is good.  If I'm going to pay annually, 
I might as well stick to TV.

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AW: So, about this VFPA thing...

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Hi Mike,

a) THE VFPA thingy modifies the DEVELOPMENT version, and that one has to be on 
SP2.  

b) The file you downloaded from github (VFP9SP2RT) is the RUNTIME installer, 
and of course does not touch your dev-system.

c) therefor you need the SP2 for VFP9 development, so that you at least get 
version 7423. This is done by downloading https://github.com/VFPX/VFP9SP2Hotfix3

d) I once wrote all about that stuff in my blog at 
http://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/ that's a step-by-step guide to install VFP9 
on modern boxes.

wOOdy



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So I got a new Win10 Pro laptop at the Corporate gig and installed VFP9 on it. 
It was NOT patched...so the version is Visual FoxPro
09.00..2412 for Windows.

I downloaded the VFPA 32 bit from (a) below and when I go to run it, it fails 
with this error: https://www.screencast.com/t/XVR3hDpLXOB

I'm guessing that's because I've not patched the default installation to 
9.0.0.7423?

Wanted to ask while I search for the VFP9SP2HotFix 3 installer. (I had tried 
one from wOOdy I thought but got a resource error earlier today...will try 
again now since I've uninstalled and reinstalled.)

tia,
--Mike


On 11/23/2019 6:39 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
> Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex 
> notation of "10")
>
> a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This 
> implies that it's stil a 23Bit version.
> This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
> Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
> It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new 
> directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other 
> files of your VFP9 source directory.  Thus, after installation you 
> just rename the old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename 
> the new directory to the original name, and all your Registrykeys and 
> Links will work without interruption.
>
> b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
> Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would 
> ever need it, but:
> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
>
>
>
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. November 2019 04:43
> An: ProFox Email List 
> Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
>
> Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
> VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and 
> supports
> 64 bits.
>
> Before I download something, am I on the right site:
> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
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AW: [NF] X# Summit

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I posted your anouncement in the German FoxPro Usergroup forum.  Maybe it will 
generate some interest :)

wOOdy


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Betreff: [NF] X# Summit

Hi all,

October is going to be a busy month it seems.  The X# team plan a conference in 
Germany for those who cannot make it to SWFOX.

https://www.xsharp.info/articles/x-summit-2020

Johan Nel
George, South Africa.


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AW: May the Open Source Be With You: INTL and SDT!

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

In that same area we should also mention:

The "Hacker’s Guide to Visual FoxPro"  is also now online and OpenSource
https://hackfox.github.io/


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AW: Nostalgia -- updating an app written 15+ years ago

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Oh you whiners...  
I'm still actively coding in VFP.  And currently I have to maintain an app 
which was originally coded in 1998, then continuously updated up to VFP9, but 
lots of code fragments are from earlier versions.  The original programmer died 
last year because of a heartattack, thus no clean handover was possible.  
That's why I work somewhat as a firefighter now; enhancing it to new 
requirements as well as refactoring old parts. That software controls 
multi-million-Euro Metallurgy Furnaces, with over 60 installations scattered 
over whole Europe. Multi-lingual with several codepages is really funstuff 
without Unicode :)

wOOdy


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Offered one of my clients 20 free dev hours in 2020 hoping to spur more 
business moving their suite of apps I've provided since 2003 forward. Modifying 
one app now that I can a comment dated 2004-12-28.  Gives a nice warm feeling 
to be working on this app again.  It was redesigned some time ago to use MySQL 
as the backend instead of DBFs and uses the 3-tier (UI/BizObj/DataObj) design, 
so I'm confident it'll be easy to work on.  (Knock on wood!)

I'm sure some of you have gone back into your archives and felt good about some 
apps you've designed long ago.  Just wanted to share the moment/feeling.  ;-)



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AW: Easiest way to keep person from navigating off a page

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In the VALID Event of that offending control:
RETURN 0 

Which means: don't move the focus from that control.

If several controls together can do harm to the page control, just disable all 
other pages.  That's the equivalent of a modal page :)

FOR EACH oPage IN Pageframe.pages
oPage.Enabled = oPage.name = thisPage.name
ENDFOR
&& set appropriate objectNames for your code


wOOdy


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VFP9SP2. Scenario: pageframe with several pages.  Goal: force user to stay on 
page if invalid data entry on that page.

I'm trying to think of the best, non-kludgey way to prevent the user navigating 
to a different tab if an invalid condition exists.  I was dabbling with the 
Page.Activate but I'm starting to get kludgey with flags and trickery.  There 
is no Page.Valid event.

Suggestions?


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AW: Office automation using VFP 10 64-bit version

[Jürgen Wondzinski]

Yepp. No OLE-Automation from VFP x64 to any 32Bit product.  And no admin would 
install the Office x64 version, since it even states in the setup, that you 
should use that x64 only if you have really, really, really big XLSX files etc. 
Bigger than 2 Gb. And it also states that Com/OLE problems.

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/choose-between-the-64-bit-or-32-bit-version-of-office-2dee7807-8f95-4d0c-b5fe-6c6f49b8d261

You can check the version of your installed office somewhere under File / 
Options 

wOOdy


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Betreff: Office automation using VFP 10 64-bit version

(Renamed subject for this specific question for easier archive searching later 
in life...)

wOOdy -- Charlie had responded to your answer on my 64-bit thread.  What do you 
think?


On 4/16/2020 2:50 PM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
> Quick question. Are you all saying there is no Automation available to MS
> Office products in the 64-bit world?
>
> I recently wrote a quick VFP app to 'automate' Outlook (ref:
> createobject('outlook.application')) to generate and send a bunch of
> emails. The Outlook 365 was 64-bit (I think). Are you saying I would not
> have been able to do that if I would have used the 'VFP 10' runtimes, etc?
> I understand ActiveX/FLLs that were compiled 32-bit would be an issue - if
> they did not have a 64-bit version included.
>
> -Charlie
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:30 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah yes, the automation angle.  Temporarily forgot about that. Thanks,
>> wOOdy!
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/2020 1:24 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
>>> You are correct, there is no reason to have a 64bit FoxPro application
>> for a regular Desktop app. It is different for building the middle-tier of
>> a distributed app or a Webserver extension. But on a regular desktop you
>> gain nothing, but inherit a lot of problems: No support for regular 32bit
>> ActiveX or FLL components. No COM-control of Office or other 32Bit stuff.
>>> Thus you better use the 32Bit version of VFPA, which is really highly
>> recommended, since it cures a lot of old bugs.
>>> wOOdy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. April 2020 17:28
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>>> Betreff: 64-bit app via the Chen version
>>>
>>> I finally I downloaded the VFPA runtime files and am going to use that
>> IDE and develop/deploy with this "VFP 10" version since many here have
>> spoken of it without much negativity.
>>> Question:  what would be the benefit of using the 64-bit version IF I'M
>> NOT USING DBFS (because in my MBSS apps, I use MariaDB/MySQL as the
>> backend, not VFP).  I just don't see the benefit other than for marketing
>> my apps to say "they're 64-bit using the VC++ 10 runtimes."
>>> tia,
>>> --Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
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AW: 64-bit app via the Chen version

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You are correct, there is no reason to have a 64bit FoxPro application for a 
regular Desktop app. It is different for building the middle-tier of a 
distributed app or a Webserver extension. But on a regular desktop you gain 
nothing, but inherit a lot of problems: No support for regular 32bit ActiveX or 
FLL components. No COM-control of Office or other 32Bit stuff.

Thus you better use the 32Bit version of VFPA, which is really highly 
recommended, since it cures a lot of old bugs.

wOOdy



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I finally I downloaded the VFPA runtime files and am going to use that IDE and 
develop/deploy with this "VFP 10" version since many here have spoken of it 
without much negativity.

Question:  what would be the benefit of using the 64-bit version IF I'M NOT 
USING DBFS (because in my MBSS apps, I use MariaDB/MySQL as the backend, not 
VFP).  I just don't see the benefit other than for marketing my apps to say 
"they're 64-bit using the VC++ 10 runtimes."

tia,
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AW: Office automation using VFP 10 64-bit version

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Are you absolutely sure that you have Office 64bit installed? Since it's not
only me, but MS itself to state that it's technically impossible, I really
doubt it.  :)  If yes, you would be the first to made it magically happen.

wOOdy


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Betreff: Re: Office automation using VFP 10 64-bit version

Not to beat this to utter death and disfigurement...

I definitely used Automation from 32-bit VFP into 64-bit Outlook. So are we
saying that if I go to 64-bit VFP (the "VFP 10") that suddenly that same
code would not work?

-Charlie

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AW: MSXML6 instead of MSXML4

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In addition, you may read my "VFP9 installation instructions on modern
Windows" at https://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/ 

wOOdy


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Betreff: MSXML6 instead of MSXML4

Hi,
I want to use the VFP9-XMLAdapter without installed MSXML4
Is it possible to redirect XML4 to XML6?

Regards
Dr. med. Jörg Arand
Pappelweg 1
72076 Tübingen
Tel. +49 170 5151971
Mail: Neodat(at)web.de

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