Ed: How do you accomplish that? I am very interested.
Jeff
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Ed Leafe wrote:
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote:
I had a client with 28,000 desktops.
On Nov 5, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
Ed: How do you accomplish that? I am very interested.
You *do* know that Dabo is open source, right?
Just look for yourself! ;-)
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On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
Ed: How do you accomplish that? I am very interested.
You *do* know that Dabo is open source, right?
Just look for yourself! ;-)
OK, sorry for being a smart-ass. Can't help it sometimes!
Basically, the app knows
Ed Leafe wrote:
Basically, the app knows its home directory, and creates a list of
all the files and their timestamps. It sends that to the server, which
does the same, and compares the two. If there is no difference, we're
done. If there are any changes, the servers zips up just those
On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:45 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
Do you avoid the zip part if the file is under a certain size? For
really small files (which I'm betting many are), it may take more time
to zip/pass/unzip than to just pass as is. ???
No, as that would add
Ed: Thanks for the non-smart-ass answer. I have combed through Dabo a
lot of times for answers but some take more research than others. I
just thought I would ask and you were gracious enough to answer (the
second time). ;^)
Thanks,
Jeff
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On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At least nothing new that I dislike.
Must be nice. Then again, I guess I made that decision about DotNet.
Well, you left out the math module and the os module and the file module
and the i/o module and the curses module
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
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Stephen Russell wrote:
CSS to control the look of your site is fantastic. Making a change in
that layout will save you from hitting every form in your winform
system.
Well, if you've subclassed
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Russell wrote:
A web app has the power of change. Quick change, across the world
with very little impact on your infrastructure when you do. The
ability to add another language allowing your app to open up another
Stephen,
You are mistaken. I've used CSS already...over 6 years ago, in fact. I
agree with your comment. It *is* great. I just was saying that you were
comparing that to winforms assuming that a user would have to manually
change every control, and my comment was that if he'd subclassed his
Stephen Russell wrote:
Changing 50,000 desktop apps across 15 countries? What if your change
was in 2 new GUIs and 15 biz rules? Your site will have to pound out
new EXE delivery attempts.
In an enterprise scenario (which if you know Stephen's world -- he's much
more into the Enterprise world
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:14:23 -0500 (EST), MB Software Solutions General
Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Look at QuickBooks (the desktop app version) for
example. It can be done if properly managed/written.
Look at Steam.
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:59:16 -0300, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Alan Bourke wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:08 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app?
Ted Roche wrote:
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh! Wow! I wish we had XML in desktop apps! You've convinced me!
Smartaleck! Are you intentionally missing the point or just avoiding it?
Nah! Just taking the piss. Take it lightly.
(no time right
Alan Bourke wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:59:16 -0300, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Alan Bourke wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:08 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:45 AM, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bottom line, I can't bring myself to learn that messy shit. ;-)
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app? As a database
developer where forms are
On 11/4/08, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you have to learn XHTML, CSS, Javascript, how they integrate, plus
some php (?). Add to that the lovely little traps Billy has set in IE.
You can choose to learn nothing new.
XHTML is fairly simple, and consistent. CSS is downright
On 11/4/08, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in a business model deploying a well written database app isnt hard.
in fact if well done it should be pretty easy.
Geoff: What do you mean by in a business model?
I had a client with 28,000 desktops. Deploying (through large-scale,
scripted,
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:32:49 -0300, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
But you'd better design your ui with cellphones in mind, or it will be a
pain. Same thing with desktops.
Why? Forget about cellphones unless there is a specific requirement to
support them. Same with IE6 and Firefox 1
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:08 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app?
Vastly reduced deployment issues and reduced client requirements.
As a database
developer where
Ted Roche wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've always had problems with these kind of statements. Web apps are NOT
OS independent, only the CLIENT part may be OS independent (though you
have to be careful that you comply with FireFox, Safari,
Bottom line, I can't bring myself to learn that messy shit. ;-)
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app? As a database
developer where forms are pre-designed and we know what to expect in
advance I see a webapp
Stephen Russell wrote:
What? a db is just a service that your application calls. It is data
storage and some rules.
Some folks would prefer the rules in a business object instead of the
database. Me, I prefer a little of both. The rules in the data side
are to force instant field validation
At 08:34 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:08 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app?
Vastly reduced deployment issues and reduced client requirements.
Alan Bourke wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:08 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app?
Vastly reduced deployment issues and reduced client requirements.
Stephen Russell wrote:
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:45 AM, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bottom line, I can't bring myself to learn that messy shit. ;-)
I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app? As a database
Ted Roche wrote:
On 11/4/08, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you have to learn XHTML, CSS, Javascript, how they integrate, plus
some php (?). Add to that the lovely little traps Billy has set in IE.
You can choose to learn nothing new.
At least nothing new that I dislike.
Ted Roche wrote:
On 11/4/08, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in a business model deploying a well written database app isnt hard.
in fact if well done it should be pretty easy.
Geoff: What do you mean by in a business model?
I had a client with 28,000 desktops. Deploying (through
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote:
I had a client with 28,000 desktops. Deploying (through large-scale,
scripted, well-tested mechanisms) is a big deal.
Well, you are trading downloading the whole app in one go, or
downloading it a window at a time.
This is the issue
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote:
I had a client with 28,000 desktops. Deploying (through large-scale,
scripted, well-tested mechanisms) is a big deal.
Well, you are trading downloading the whole app in one go, or
downloading it a window at a time.
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:34 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
Excellent...just like the Loader utility idea discussed on here many
times.
Not really. Loader checked if the exe had changed, and downloaded the
whole thing. Dabo can detect individual files, and update them locally
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:34 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
Excellent...just like the Loader utility idea discussed on here many
times.
Not really. Loader checked if the exe had changed, and downloaded the
whole thing. Dabo can detect individual files, and
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've always had problems with these kind of statements. Web apps are NOT
OS independent, only the CLIENT part may be OS independent (though you
have to be careful that you comply with FireFox, Safari, Opera and IE7
and
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