Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:14 AM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being from the south, and having a family where all the men, and a few of the women, hunted, guns were just a part of life. Then the fact that my dad, three uncles, three cousins, and both brothers were cops, guns have always been around. Nobody ever got kilt either. Of course my next younger brother did shoot a guy once, because he was shooting at someone else. Even then, he just wounded the guy. I never shot at anyone, though I was shot at on 7 different occasions. Didn't know you had Scottish ancestors.. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Actually, I do. Harvey's Bristol Crème ring a bell? Brewed in Glasgow, Scotland by John and Richard Harvey. My now deceased brother's name was Richard!G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:20 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:14 AM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being from the south, and having a family where all the men, and a few of the women, hunted, guns were just a part of life. Then the fact that my dad, three uncles, three cousins, and both brothers were cops, guns have always been around. Nobody ever got kilt either. Of course my next younger brother did shoot a guy once, because he was shooting at someone else. Even then, he just wounded the guy. I never shot at anyone, though I was shot at on 7 different occasions. Didn't know you had Scottish ancestors.. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
US citizens can and have committed acts of terrorism... how do you stand then? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sent: 04 September 2008 16:55 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Pete Theisen wrote: Vince Teachout wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: My mother was a D and made my dad get rid of his shotgun. Hmm.. I'm a D, and I think everyone should own a shotgun or a rifle, or at the very least, know how to safely store, clean, and shoot them. (just butting in - sorry) Hi Vince! You and Leland. You at least *WERE* an R, maybe the gun heritage comes from thence. There is no perfect political party, either Democrat, Republican, or otherwise, that conforms totally with the ideology of all people. People also change, as do political parties. It looks to me like the Republican party, under the Bush Administration, has become much more liberal with its calls for pre-emptive aggression and reckless spending on wars, rather than social issues, etc, so perhaps its time for everyone to re-evaluate their values and position on the issue, so they can join the party that best matches them. I grew up around guns, I've been a hunter all my life, I believe in the second amendment to the constitution regard the right to own and bear arms, and I'm a member of the National Rifle Association, but that doesn't make me a Republican. I'm a Democrat;because, the Democratic platform best suit my overall political ideology. Besides, the right to own and bear arms has become a non-issue with the resent Supreme Court ruling upholding the second amendment to the constitution. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Since when does our constitution apply to enemies of the United States? Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 11:35 AM Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
If US citizens commit crimes, of any type, they are afforded the full protection of the constitution. It's a non issue. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis US citizens can and have committed acts of terrorism... how do you stand then? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sent: 04 September 2008 16:55 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
John wrote: Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. rights. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
John wrote: Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH Anyone under USA jurisdiction, or in USA custody, should be afforded the same Constitutional rights. There should not be a separate courts or set of rules based on the crimes committed, race, religion, nationality, enemy combatant/terrorist status, or any other defining denominator. The USA Constitution should apply evenly to all under jurisdiction or under USA custody, or it should not apply to anyone; otherwise, there can be no justice. During war, the USA Uniform Code of Military Justice should applies as agreed by all nation under the Geneva Conventions. I noticed last night that Governor Sarah Palin was wearing her hair something like Condi Rice with hair drapped down to just below the eyebrow. Sarah would look so much more open and attractive, if she would were her hair a little higher. Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. rights. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Hi Leland! AHA! You ARE bitter! -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Never, in our history, has the protection of our constitution been given to non US citizens, until this year. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:57 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH Anyone under USA jurisdiction, or in USA custody, should be afforded the same Constitutional rights. There should not be a separate courts or set of rules based on the crimes committed, race, religion, nationality, enemy combatant/terrorist status, or any other defining denominator. The USA Constitution should apply evenly to all under jurisdiction or under USA custody, or it should not apply to anyone; otherwise, there can be no justice. During war, the USA Uniform Code of Military Justice should applies as agreed by all nation under the Geneva Conventions. I noticed last night that Governor Sarah Palin was wearing her hair something like Condi Rice with hair drapped down to just below the eyebrow. Sarah would look so much more open and attractive, if she would were her hair a little higher. Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. rights. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Besides, the right to own and bear arms has become a non-issue with the resent Supreme Court ruling upholding the second amendment to the constitution. Hi Leland! If we ever elect another D president he/she will be all over the issue. He will try to ban ammunition, perhaps by executive order, and dare the Supreme Court to try to do something about it. It will take years to resolve. Then he/she will appoint a despicable liberal to the bench and that will dog us for a generation. Non-issue indeed. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Besides, the right to own and bear arms has become a non-issue with the resent Supreme Court ruling upholding the second amendment to the constitution. Hi Leland! If we ever elect another D president he/she will be all over the issue. He will try to ban ammunition, perhaps by executive order, and dare the Supreme Court to try to do something about it. It will take years to resolve. Then he/she will appoint a despicable liberal to the bench and that will dog us for a generation. Non-issue indeed. I wouldn't worry about it Pete. If Obama is elected President, he will be under a very watchful eye of congress with very little lead way to wander off the beaten path. If he did, he would likely be impeached. In order to put such a law in place, he would need congressional legislation, which if even passed, would shortly be overturned as UnConstitutional. Otherwise it would be up to each state of pass its own law, which would eventually be stricken as unconstitutional. Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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John wrote: Never, in our history, has the protection of our constitution been given to non US citizens, until this year. If I go to another country and commit a crime, I will go before that country's court, Judge, Jury, etc.Even if I commit a crime in another country and make it back to the USA, I could be extradited back to the foreign court to stand trial. Otherwise, how would it work? I commit a crime in Spain, and so Spain send me back to the USA to stand trial; because, I'm an American citizen. What about people with dual citizenship. LOL. I don't think so. By the way, If I were an American or otherwise, I wouldn't commit any crimes in China. I hear the criminal justice system there is very harsh. Regards, LelandJ JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:57 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH Anyone under USA jurisdiction, or in USA custody, should be afforded the same Constitutional rights. There should not be a separate courts or set of rules based on the crimes committed, race, religion, nationality, enemy combatant/terrorist status, or any other defining denominator. The USA Constitution should apply evenly to all under jurisdiction or under USA custody, or it should not apply to anyone; otherwise, there can be no justice. During war, the USA Uniform Code of Military Justice should applies as agreed by all nation under the Geneva Conventions. I noticed last night that Governor Sarah Palin was wearing her hair something like Condi Rice with hair drapped down to just below the eyebrow. Sarah would look so much more open and attractive, if she would were her hair a little higher. Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. rights. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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If you are a prisoner of war, you'll probably get shot. You won't see a court, most likely, because war criminal is different that dui, thief, etc. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:12 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Never, in our history, has the protection of our constitution been given to non US citizens, until this year. If I go to another country and commit a crime, I will go before that country's court, Judge, Jury, etc.Even if I commit a crime in another country and make it back to the USA, I could be extradited back to the foreign court to stand trial. Otherwise, how would it work? I commit a crime in Spain, and so Spain send me back to the USA to stand trial; because, I'm an American citizen. What about people with dual citizenship. LOL. I don't think so. By the way, If I were an American or otherwise, I wouldn't commit any crimes in China. I hear the criminal justice system there is very harsh. Regards, LelandJ JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:57 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH Anyone under USA jurisdiction, or in USA custody, should be afforded the same Constitutional rights. There should not be a separate courts or set of rules based on the crimes committed, race, religion, nationality, enemy combatant/terrorist status, or any other defining denominator. The USA Constitution should apply evenly to all under jurisdiction or under USA custody, or it should not apply to anyone; otherwise, there can be no justice. During war, the USA Uniform Code of Military Justice should applies as agreed by all nation under the Geneva Conventions. I noticed last night that Governor Sarah Palin was wearing her hair something like Condi Rice with hair drapped down to just below the eyebrow. Sarah would look so much more open and attractive, if she would were her hair a little higher. Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. rights. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists their rights. The remark leads me to believe she might not apply constitution guarantees of freedom, due process, and privacy evenly across the board, so she might also be a threat to the USA constitution democracy. Regards, LelandJ Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com
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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: I wouldn't worry about it Pete. If Obama is elected President, he will be under a very watchful eye of congress with very little lead way to wander off the beaten path. If he did, he would likely be impeached. In order to put such a law in place, he would need congressional legislation, which if even passed, would shortly be overturned as UnConstitutional. Otherwise it would be up to each state of pass its own law, which would eventually be stricken as unconstitutional. Hi Leland! Around here the Ds aren't allowed by the party to have guns, politically incorrect. Unless, of course, they are criminals, KKK members or Rosie O'Donnell's bodyguards. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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One of the reason I object to war is its wages; death and destruction of both people and property, so I really hate to see my hard earned money that I pay in taxes going to such a waste. War should never occur except there be no escaping it. There is nothing illegal about killing during the heat of battle during war. It's ever man for himself; kill or be killed. However, there are international laws that govern soldier that surrender and are taken prisoner. Summarily executing a prisoner of war is an international crime under the Geneva Convention, which has been signed into agreement by all major countries. Regards, LelandJ John wrote: If you are a prisoner of war, you'll probably get shot. You won't see a court, most likely, because war criminal is different that dui, thief, etc. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:12 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Never, in our history, has the protection of our constitution been given to non US citizens, until this year. If I go to another country and commit a crime, I will go before that country's court, Judge, Jury, etc.Even if I commit a crime in another country and make it back to the USA, I could be extradited back to the foreign court to stand trial. Otherwise, how would it work? I commit a crime in Spain, and so Spain send me back to the USA to stand trial; because, I'm an American citizen. What about people with dual citizenship. LOL. I don't think so. By the way, If I were an American or otherwise, I wouldn't commit any crimes in China. I hear the criminal justice system there is very harsh. Regards, LelandJ JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:57 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Non citizens should not be afforded rights granted to our CITIZENS. No other country does that either. JH Anyone under USA jurisdiction, or in USA custody, should be afforded the same Constitutional rights. There should not be a separate courts or set of rules based on the crimes committed, race, religion, nationality, enemy combatant/terrorist status, or any other defining denominator. The USA Constitution should apply evenly to all under jurisdiction or under USA custody, or it should not apply to anyone; otherwise, there can be no justice. During war, the USA Uniform Code of Military Justice should applies as agreed by all nation under the Geneva Conventions. I noticed last night that Governor Sarah Palin was wearing her hair something like Condi Rice with hair drapped down to just below the eyebrow. Sarah would look so much more open and attractive, if she would were her hair a little higher. Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Vince Teachout wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. rights. Sarah Palin made a condescending remark about the constitution last night. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but it was in regards to our opponents, (eg the opposition party which I took to mean the Democrats) reading Terrorists
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Ahem, it seems the anarchists whose homes were raided were planning to kidnap delegates. But, those terrible jack booted police stormed their cribs and disrupted them. Now what do you have to say Ed? http://www.twincities.com/ci_10365754 John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:35 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Palin wants to be part of the US when it suits her Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Senator John McCain really wanted to pick Joe Lieberman as his VP Running mate Oh, you're back on the stuff again, I see. Nope, I haven't touched a drop since June 10, 1983. I sensed something was up when George Stephanopoulos of ABC news when down Senator John McCain's short list of possible running mates, and then hinted that McCain might pick a dark horse, (eg an unknown). That was the day before McCain made his announcement. Hi Leland! You've switched addictions, from the drop, as you put it, to political radicalism, but you are still craving a buzz. You now buzz on the crazy dreams. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:49 AM, John wrote: Ahem, it seems the anarchists whose homes were raided were planning to kidnap delegates. But, those terrible jack booted police stormed their cribs and disrupted them. Now what do you have to say Ed? http://www.twincities.com/ci_10365754 Geneva Finn of the National Lawyers Guild, which represents many of those arrested, said it was hard for her to weigh the evidence in the affidavit because it's all based on the testimony of people who are not identified, and that's a real problem. I'm sure I can come up with equally weighty evidence that you were planning on kidnapping delegates, too. I'm also impressed by your honesty in this discussion, by adding 'Nazi' to the subject, and 'jack booted' to the description of the police, when I never used those terms. I'm sure it makes everyone find your opinions so much more trustworthy. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:03 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:49 AM, John wrote: Ahem, it seems the anarchists whose homes were raided were planning to kidnap delegates. But, those terrible jack booted police stormed their cribs and disrupted them. Now what do you have to say Ed? http://www.twincities.com/ci_10365754 Geneva Finn of the National Lawyers Guild, which represents many of those arrested, said it was hard for her to weigh the evidence in the affidavit because it's all based on the testimony of people who are not identified, and that's a real problem. I'm sure I can come up with equally weighty evidence that you were planning on kidnapping delegates, too. I'm also impressed by your honesty in this discussion, by adding 'Nazi' to the subject, and 'jack booted' to the description of the police, when I never used those terms. I'm sure it makes everyone find your opinions so much more trustworthy. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:21 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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John, you need to get professional help. HW On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:21 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:17 AM, John wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. I guess the Constitution is anti-American, too! I always find it ironic that those who are the quickest to throw out charges of anti-Americanism usually hate the concepts behind the Bill of Rights. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH In earnest John, once you start calling names like those i just think playground stuff and your arguments - valid as they might be - lose all possible value... A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote: In earnest John, once you start calling names like those i just think playground stuff and your arguments - valid as they might be - lose all possible value... More importantly, it shows just how credible his claim of being able to tell the guilt or innocence of a person just by looking at him. It also reinforces the notion that we have a significant number of such deluded people wearing a badge and carrying weapons. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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LAWFUL assembly, and protest is totally acceptable. Anarchists who plan to disrupt LAWFUL assemblies, and commit crimes like kidnapping aren't. Being a liberal, you just don't see the distinction, do you. Every time I see one of you libs rail against the police, I'm reminding of that wonderful song from the Wizard of OZ - If I Only Had A Brain JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:17 AM, John wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. I guess the Constitution is anti-American, too! I always find it ironic that those who are the quickest to throw out charges of anti-Americanism usually hate the concepts behind the Bill of Rights. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Thanks, Coming from you, that tells me I'm on target.G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio Wakasugui Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John, you need to get professional help. HW On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:21 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I mean, really... you must be worried about your precious bodily fluids... HW On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Coming from you, that tells me I'm on target.G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio Wakasugui Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John, you need to get professional help. HW On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:21 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH In earnest John, once you start calling names like those i just think playground stuff and your arguments - valid as they might be - lose all possible value... John: I'm going to side with Jean on this one, but also defend you by putting your unhelpful response in context. Name calling, even when done with a G, seldom persuades anybody of anything, and often makes you look petty. It can be great fun, and cathartic when you're feeling a bit under the weather, or under attack, but it's seldom effective at rallying people to your cause. Jean is right on this point. I am no proponent of PC, and a big fan of being tolerant of even the most outrageous forms of expression (for reasons that are, I gather, self-evident), but I would advise you NOT to indulge in it like this. I find Pete's often interesting posts diminished by his occasional reference to n-word for example. It makes me cringe because I know it gives people an excuse to ignore the substance of his argument, whatever it may be. I understand it's a protest in the name of free speech, and am sympathetic on many levels but from experience I think it's more effective the more sparingly it's done. In this case, Ed really did impugn John's profession and accused him, personally, of enjoying acting like a Nazi and participating in a police state when John was being facetious (with irrefutable proof provided by that objective bastion of non-partisan news, Salon magazine). This is no less outrageous than if he'd out and called John a Nazi, but it comes across as more impassioned than personal, because Ed covered his ad hominem/guilt-by-association argument with at least the fig leaf of a magazine article on the topic of domestic surveillance. (BTW, I wonder how Bush-is-a-Nazi Dems these days would have responded to Wilson's propaganda dept and domestic KGB-style police state, which literally did round up people on baseless political charges whenever they merely criticized government policy, predating even Stalin and Hilter with that one. Wilson's actually one of their heroes, and the guy who brought us our beloved income tax. I also note that it was the Dems who got Bush to agree to create the Homeland Security Dept, after initially opposing it. But I digress.) But still, John, I think you could have shown more class with a little less pejorative humor in response. Instead of responding explicitly in-kind, which is what Ed was goading you to do, you should have simply called out Ed's mean-spirited, ad-hominem, guilt-by-association argument against you plainly for what it was. - Bob A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Bob Calco wrote: Pete's often interesting posts diminished by his occasional reference to n-word for example. It makes me cringe because I know it gives people an excuse to ignore the substance of his argument Hi Bob! Of course, your criticism is valid, some people are looking for that excuse. However you are probably too young to remember the days when we were supposed to call them colored people. Oh, swell! We had to call them Negroes in school, colored people to their faces and niggers amongst our friends. That is a lot of hypocrisy for a kid to come to terms with. Then in the late 60s they decided that we couldn't refer to them as them, we couldn't say Negro or colored anymore, and it had to be black. Now they want to change it to African-American. I am waiting for them to just get over themselves and be one with us. I will most likely die before that happens. It isn't that they can't assimilate, is not O-man an example of assimilation? Rather, it is that the agitators and the press who worship the agitators won't let assimilation happen. All while this was going on, if you told a Pollock Joke the Polish kids laughed right along with the rest. I am waiting for this to happen to whatever they want to be called this week. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Truth, the ultimate disinfectant! LOL Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 10:24 AM Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:21 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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John's a real American. I'd rather have John watch my back than you two silly men. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 10:35 AM On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote: In earnest John, once you start calling names like those i just think playground stuff and your arguments - valid as they might be - lose all possible value... More importantly, it shows just how credible his claim of being able to tell the guilt or innocence of a person just by looking at him. It also reinforces the notion that we have a significant number of such deluded people wearing a badge and carrying weapons. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Again, John wasn't name calling, he was stating the facts. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 11:41 AM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH In earnest John, once you start calling names like those i just think playground stuff and your arguments - valid as they might be - lose all possible value... John: I'm going to side with Jean on this one, but also defend you by putting your unhelpful response in context. Name calling, even when done with a G, seldom persuades anybody of anything, and often makes you look petty. It can be great fun, and cathartic when you're feeling a bit under the weather, or under attack, but it's seldom effective at rallying people to your cause. Jean is right on this point. I am no proponent of PC, and a big fan of being tolerant of even the most outrageous forms of expression (for reasons that are, I gather, self-evident), but I would advise you NOT to indulge in it like this. I find Pete's often interesting posts diminished by his occasional reference to n-word for example. It makes me cringe because I know it gives people an excuse to ignore the substance of his argument, whatever it may be. I understand it's a protest in the name of free speech, and am sympathetic on many levels but from experience I think it's more effective the more sparingly it's done. In this case, Ed really did impugn John's profession and accused him, personally, of enjoying acting like a Nazi and participating in a police state when John was being facetious (with irrefutable proof provided by that objective bastion of non-partisan news, Salon magazine). This is no less outrageous than if he'd out and called John a Nazi, but it comes across as more impassioned than personal, because Ed covered his ad hominem/guilt-by-association argument with at least the fig leaf of a magazine article on the topic of domestic surveillance. (BTW, I wonder how Bush-is-a-Nazi Dems these days would have responded to Wilson's propaganda dept and domestic KGB-style police state, which literally did round up people on baseless political charges whenever they merely criticized government policy, predating even Stalin and Hilter with that one. Wilson's actually one of their heroes, and the guy who brought us our beloved income tax. I also note that it was the Dems who got Bush to agree to create the Homeland Security Dept, after initially opposing it. But I digress.) But still, John, I think you could have shown more class with a little less pejorative humor in response. Instead of responding explicitly in-kind, which is what Ed was goading you to do, you should have simply called out Ed's mean-spirited, ad-hominem, guilt-by-association argument against you plainly for what it was. - Bob A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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What is amazing is that these anarchists will damage a liberal's business as fast as a conservative's business, yet these clowns need to support these scum to the bitter end. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:33 PM I always find it ironic that those who are the quickest to throw out charges of anti-Americanism usually hate the concepts behind the Bill of Rights. Not really, and I have to agree with Jean, that Ed is predictable. The problem is that the bill of rights, like many good things, is often abused by those who do not believe in free speech and or the things most Americans live by. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:19 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Again, John wasn't name calling, he was stating the facts. Socialist -- OK, I think a case can be made. Supporting Obama is evidence. His program is certainly rooting in socialist thought and activism. Communist? Eh. I don't think any in-the-field liberal today really knows what communism is, which is why they're so eager to make all its mistakes. I think Communist is pushing it a bit, but that may be valid. Pinko is just a pejorative for Communist, so same comment above applies. Fag? On what basis is that fact asserted? I personally have no knowledge of Ed's sex life. But maybe John does...? - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Fag can also be used as a pejorative for an effeminate heterosexual. It can be argued that if a male votes for Obama, by definition he is effeminate. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 1:34 PM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:19 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Again, John wasn't name calling, he was stating the facts. Socialist -- OK, I think a case can be made. Supporting Obama is evidence. His program is certainly rooting in socialist thought and activism. Communist? Eh. I don't think any in-the-field liberal today really knows what communism is, which is why they're so eager to make all its mistakes. I think Communist is pushing it a bit, but that may be valid. Pinko is just a pejorative for Communist, so same comment above applies. Fag? On what basis is that fact asserted? I personally have no knowledge of Ed's sex life. But maybe John does...? - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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You are right Bob. I guess, I just was over my daily quota of idiots! Liberals are a known commodity, and Ed is at the head of the crowd. It ticks me off, when twerps want to talk about how wrong the police are, particularly when they've probably never even defended themselves, much less others. Ed falls into that category believe dope and many other crimes should be legal, and everything the police do should be criminal. I'm sick of hearing how mean spirited the police are, especially when I think about the years of risking my life for the likes of Ed and his anarchist buddies. I've seen what these people do, and heard what they have to say. They need to go to one of those other perfect countries like Russia, where things are much, much better and the police treat people so much better. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Calco Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:41 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH In earnest John, once you start calling names like those i just think playground stuff and your arguments - valid as they might be - lose all possible value... John: I'm going to side with Jean on this one, but also defend you by putting your unhelpful response in context. Name calling, even when done with a G, seldom persuades anybody of anything, and often makes you look petty. It can be great fun, and cathartic when you're feeling a bit under the weather, or under attack, but it's seldom effective at rallying people to your cause. Jean is right on this point. I am no proponent of PC, and a big fan of being tolerant of even the most outrageous forms of expression (for reasons that are, I gather, self-evident), but I would advise you NOT to indulge in it like this. I find Pete's often interesting posts diminished by his occasional reference to n-word for example. It makes me cringe because I know it gives people an excuse to ignore the substance of his argument, whatever it may be. I understand it's a protest in the name of free speech, and am sympathetic on many levels but from experience I think it's more effective the more sparingly it's done. In this case, Ed really did impugn John's profession and accused him, personally, of enjoying acting like a Nazi and participating in a police state when John was being facetious (with irrefutable proof provided by that objective bastion of non-partisan news, Salon magazine). This is no less outrageous than if he'd out and called John a Nazi, but it comes across as more impassioned than personal, because Ed covered his ad hominem/guilt-by-association argument with at least the fig leaf of a magazine article on the topic of domestic surveillance. (BTW, I wonder how Bush-is-a-Nazi Dems these days would have responded to Wilson's propaganda dept and domestic KGB-style police state, which literally did round up people on baseless political charges whenever they merely criticized government policy, predating even Stalin and Hilter with that one. Wilson's actually one of their heroes, and the guy who brought us our beloved income tax. I also note that it was the Dems who got Bush to agree to create the Homeland Security Dept, after initially opposing it. But I digress.) But still, John, I think you could have shown more class with a little less pejorative humor in response. Instead of responding explicitly in-kind, which is what Ed was goading you to do, you should have simply called out Ed's mean-spirited, ad-hominem, guilt-by-association argument against you plainly for what it was. - Bob A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Jean Laeremans wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml LOL Besides that. Man! You get fucking paid to do your job. So you'd better come zipping if he calls you, 'cause he's paying your rent! It would seem you think people have to be thankful that you do the job you are being paid to do. If you consider the pay is too low for the risk then quit the job, but stop whining every time somebody does not appreciate your fellow uniformed thugs. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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John wrote: You are right Bob. I guess, I just was over my daily quota of idiots! Liberals are a known commodity, and Ed is at the head of the crowd. It ticks me off, when twerps want to talk about how wrong the police are, particularly when they've probably never even defended themselves, much less others. Ed falls into that category believe dope and many other crimes should be legal, and everything the police do should be criminal. I'm sick of hearing how mean spirited the police are, especially when I think about the years of risking my life for the likes of Ed and his anarchist buddies. I've seen what these people do, and heard what they have to say. They need to go to one of those other perfect countries like Russia, where things are much, much better and the police treat people so much better. John Johnny, Johnny, Johnny... I guess now Ed should act offended and tell you that next time you need a ProFox forum you should ask a Nazi... erhhh... repub to provide it. LOL P.S.: The years you spent risking my life for the likes of... you were paid and did because you liked the job. It's been paid in full, so don't come begging for sympathy or a pat in your head. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
It's called being a straight shooter. Keep up the good work! Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 6:00 PM You are right Bob. I guess, I just was over my daily quota of idiots! Liberals are a known commodity, and Ed is at the head of the crowd. It ticks me off, when twerps want to talk about how wrong the police are, particularly when they've probably never even defended themselves, much less others. Ed falls into that category believe dope and many other crimes should be legal, and everything the police do should be criminal. I'm sick of hearing how mean spirited the police are, especially when I think about the years of risking my life for the likes of Ed and his anarchist buddies. I've seen what these people do, and heard what they have to say. They need to go to one of those other perfect countries like Russia, where things are much, much better and the police treat people so much better. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Calco Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:41 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:24 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I finally had to state the obvious, for those of you socialist/communist/pinko/fags G JH In earnest John, once you start calling names like those i just think playground stuff and your arguments - valid as they might be - lose all possible value... John: I'm going to side with Jean on this one, but also defend you by putting your unhelpful response in context. Name calling, even when done with a G, seldom persuades anybody of anything, and often makes you look petty. It can be great fun, and cathartic when you're feeling a bit under the weather, or under attack, but it's seldom effective at rallying people to your cause. Jean is right on this point. I am no proponent of PC, and a big fan of being tolerant of even the most outrageous forms of expression (for reasons that are, I gather, self-evident), but I would advise you NOT to indulge in it like this. I find Pete's often interesting posts diminished by his occasional reference to n-word for example. It makes me cringe because I know it gives people an excuse to ignore the substance of his argument, whatever it may be. I understand it's a protest in the name of free speech, and am sympathetic on many levels but from experience I think it's more effective the more sparingly it's done. In this case, Ed really did impugn John's profession and accused him, personally, of enjoying acting like a Nazi and participating in a police state when John was being facetious (with irrefutable proof provided by that objective bastion of non-partisan news, Salon magazine). This is no less outrageous than if he'd out and called John a Nazi, but it comes across as more impassioned than personal, because Ed covered his ad hominem/guilt-by-association argument with at least the fig leaf of a magazine article on the topic of domestic surveillance. (BTW, I wonder how Bush-is-a-Nazi Dems these days would have responded to Wilson's propaganda dept and domestic KGB-style police state, which literally did round up people on baseless political charges whenever they merely criticized government policy, predating even Stalin and Hilter with that one. Wilson's actually one of their heroes, and the guy who brought us our beloved income tax. I also note that it was the Dems who got Bush to agree to create the Homeland Security Dept, after initially opposing it. But I digress.) But still, John, I think you could have shown more class with a little less pejorative humor in response. Instead of responding explicitly in-kind, which is what Ed was goading you to do, you should have simply called out Ed's mean-spirited, ad-hominem, guilt-by-association argument against you plainly for what it was. - Bob A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive
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Why does everything you write have to be laced with obscenities? Is your vocabulary so limited that you have to resort to that? Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 6:42 PM Jean Laeremans wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added the words you were intimating, as you well know. You are just anti American, but don't won't to admit it. You just espouse it. Next time you are about to be mugged, call an anarchist. ROFL was already wondering how long it would take before you called Ed 'anti-american' . A lot can be said for being predictable. A+ jml LOL Besides that. Man! You get fucking paid to do your job. So you'd better come zipping if he calls you, 'cause he's paying your rent! It would seem you think people have to be thankful that you do the job you are being paid to do. If you consider the pay is too low for the risk then quit the job, but stop whining every time somebody does not appreciate your fellow uniformed thugs. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
I can't believe how the rights of these peaceful anti-war community organizers are being violated: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080902/D92U955O0.html - - - Members of the Connecticut delegation said they were attacked by protesters when they got off their bus near the Xcel Center, KMSP-TV reported. Delegate Rob Simmons told the station that a group of protesters came toward his delegation and tried to rip the credentials off their necks and sprayed them with a toxic substance that burned their eyes and stained their clothes. One 80-year-old member of the delegation had to be treated for injuries, and several other delegates had to rinse their eyes and clothing, the station reported. ... Terry Butts, a former Alabama Supreme Court justice who is a convention delegate, was on a bus taking delegates to the arena when a brick through the window sprayed glass on him and two others. Butts said he wasn't hurt. It just left us a little shaken, he said. It was sort of a frightening moment because it could have been a bomb or a Molotov cocktail. - - - Or an Alinsky beer mug. Or a Weather Underground shot glass. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
I understand that Minnesota has mandatory sentencing for some of these crimes. It would be great to see some of these Demcorat pigs in jail for 10 years. Would make it all worthwhile. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 7:25 PM I can't believe how the rights of these peaceful anti-war community organizers are being violated: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080902/D92U955O0.html - - - Members of the Connecticut delegation said they were attacked by protesters when they got off their bus near the Xcel Center, KMSP-TV reported. Delegate Rob Simmons told the station that a group of protesters came toward his delegation and tried to rip the credentials off their necks and sprayed them with a toxic substance that burned their eyes and stained their clothes. One 80-year-old member of the delegation had to be treated for injuries, and several other delegates had to rinse their eyes and clothing, the station reported. ... Terry Butts, a former Alabama Supreme Court justice who is a convention delegate, was on a bus taking delegates to the arena when a brick through the window sprayed glass on him and two others. Butts said he wasn't hurt. It just left us a little shaken, he said. It was sort of a frightening moment because it could have been a bomb or a Molotov cocktail. - - - Or an Alinsky beer mug. Or a Weather Underground shot glass. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
I don't think these are average run-of-the-mill Democrats. These are Alinsky style agitators, the hard core Left radicals, whose ideological idols are influential in the left wing of the Democrat party. But I can't picture, say, Leland or Vince or anybody on this list (Ricardo excepting, perhaps) doing anything violent like this. Oh, did I mention that Obama's friends and career-starting fundraisers Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn did this kind of thing, and worse, and to this day wish they could have done more of it? - Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:31 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis I understand that Minnesota has mandatory sentencing for some of these crimes. It would be great to see some of these Demcorat pigs in jail for 10 years. Would make it all worthwhile. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. But these people are being funded by the same people who are funding Move On and Code Pink. I'd love to watch video of these people being waterboarded. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 7:57 PM I don't think these are average run-of-the-mill Democrats. These are Alinsky style agitators, the hard core Left radicals, whose ideological idols are influential in the left wing of the Democrat party. But I can't picture, say, Leland or Vince or anybody on this list (Ricardo excepting, perhaps) doing anything violent like this. Oh, did I mention that Obama's friends and career-starting fundraisers Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn did this kind of thing, and worse, and to this day wish they could have done more of it? - Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:31 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis I understand that Minnesota has mandatory sentencing for some of these crimes. It would be great to see some of these Demcorat pigs in jail for 10 years. Would make it all worthwhile. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
That is just the courage of these wackos. They wouldn't attack those who might defend themselves. They go after 80 year olds. I wish the police had used rubber bullets on them. John Harvey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Calco Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:26 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis I can't believe how the rights of these peaceful anti-war community organizers are being violated: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080902/D92U955O0.html - - - Members of the Connecticut delegation said they were attacked by protesters when they got off their bus near the Xcel Center, KMSP-TV reported. Delegate Rob Simmons told the station that a group of protesters came toward his delegation and tried to rip the credentials off their necks and sprayed them with a toxic substance that burned their eyes and stained their clothes. One 80-year-old member of the delegation had to be treated for injuries, and several other delegates had to rinse their eyes and clothing, the station reported. ... Terry Butts, a former Alabama Supreme Court justice who is a convention delegate, was on a bus taking delegates to the arena when a brick through the window sprayed glass on him and two others. Butts said he wasn't hurt. It just left us a little shaken, he said. It was sort of a frightening moment because it could have been a bomb or a Molotov cocktail. - - - Or an Alinsky beer mug. Or a Weather Underground shot glass. - Bob [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
It seems the ACLU only protects lefty causes. If a town wants to take your house via eminent domain, the ACLU doesn't give a crap. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 9:32 PM Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Michael Madigan wrote: It seems the ACLU only protects lefty causes. If a town wants to take your house via eminent domain, the ACLU doesn't give a crap. Totally wrong! They've gone against a LOT of eminent domain actions! Go to www.aclu.org, type eminent domain into the search box, and be prepared to do a lot of reading. You can thank them by joining today. You'll get a cool card. Really. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis
Well good for them then. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 9:44 PM Michael Madigan wrote: It seems the ACLU only protects lefty causes. If a town wants to take your house via eminent domain, the ACLU doesn't give a crap. Totally wrong! They've gone against a LOT of eminent domain actions! Go to www.aclu.org, type eminent domain into the search box, and be prepared to do a lot of reading. You can thank them by joining today. You'll get a cool card. Really. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Michael Madigan wrote: It seems the ACLU only protects lefty causes. If a town wants to take your house via eminent domain, the ACLU doesn't give a crap. Hi Michael! In my callow youth I was an ACLU member. It sounds nice, American Civil Liberties but actually, they only occasionally protect a right-winger's liberty. They all-the-time support left wing causes. I got to thinking it should stand for American Communist-Liberal Union. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Hahaha. From Republican to Democrat. That is sad. The funny thing about this is, I went from Democrat to Republican, when Reagan became president. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:33 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. Hey! Now dammit, I've been being NICE to you lately! Ok, I did used to be a Republican, up until Reagan, then I switched to Libertarian, because I thought it meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I found out it meant you could only vote for whoever was wacky enough to run as Libertarian, I switched to Independent, thinking THAT meant I could vote for whoever I thought was best. When I got turned away from the polls and couldn't vote, because it turns out that in NY at least, it means you can only vote for whoever is wacky enough to to run for Independent,* I switched to Democrat, so I could at least get to vote in a way that hopefully would make some difference. If I could truly vote an independent cross ticket, I'd vote Obama-Palin. (She had me at moose-munching mama) But lest you fear I'm not a left-wing liberal maniac, I DID join the ACLU. (And I was totally blown away when I found out they really do give you a card!) And I joined because I truly do believe Bush is the worst threat the U.S. Constitution has ever faced, and they were our best hope. Oh, and I got to hear Rush, finally. And he's an igmo-maniac. * My uncle in Maryland informs me that in MD, Independent *does* mean you get to vote for whoever you think is best. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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John wrote: Hahaha. From Republican to Democrat. I became enlightened. :-) That is sad. The funny thing about this is, I went from Democrat to Republican, Alas, the scales grew over your eyes... :-) when Reagan became president. Hmm, that's kind of interesting, isn't it? Reagan seems to have been a pivot point for a lot of people. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Ronald Reagan is THE model for a president. Even Barak and Slick Willie have been heard to invoke his name when they wanted attention. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:57 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Hahaha. From Republican to Democrat. I became enlightened. :-) That is sad. The funny thing about this is, I went from Democrat to Republican, Alas, the scales grew over your eyes... :-) when Reagan became president. Hmm, that's kind of interesting, isn't it? Reagan seems to have been a pivot point for a lot of people. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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John wrote: Hahaha. From Republican to Democrat. That is sad. The funny thing about this is, I went from Democrat to Republican, when Reagan became president. Hi John! My mother was a D and made my dad get rid of his shotgun. I tended D in 68 (except for the gun issue) but went R during the early Nixon years after seeing the Ds in Chicago. After Watergate I went American Independent and During the Carter years I went with Reagan. I have been R ever since. Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Pete Theisen wrote: My mother was a D and made my dad get rid of his shotgun. Hmm.. I'm a D, and I think everyone should own a shotgun or a rifle, or at the very least, know how to safely store, clean, and shoot them. (just butting in - sorry) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Vince Teachout wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: My mother was a D and made my dad get rid of his shotgun. Hmm.. I'm a D, and I think everyone should own a shotgun or a rifle, or at the very least, know how to safely store, clean, and shoot them. (just butting in - sorry) Hi Vince! You and Leland. You at least *WERE* an R, maybe the gun heritage comes from thence. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Pete Theisen wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: My mother was a D and made my dad get rid of his shotgun. Hmm.. I'm a D, and I think everyone should own a shotgun or a rifle, or at the very least, know how to safely store, clean, and shoot them. (just butting in - sorry) Hi Vince! You and Leland. You at least *WERE* an R, maybe the gun heritage comes from thence. Or from hunting with my dad. Or from not trusting our government :-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Being from the south, and having a family where all the men, and a few of the women, hunted, guns were just a part of life. Then the fact that my dad, three uncles, three cousins, and both brothers were cops, guns have always been around. Nobody ever got kilt either. Of course my next younger brother did shoot a guy once, because he was shooting at someone else. Even then, he just wounded the guy. I never shot at anyone, though I was shot at on 7 different occasions. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:21 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Nazi police in Minneapolis John wrote: Hahaha. From Republican to Democrat. That is sad. The funny thing about this is, I went from Democrat to Republican, when Reagan became president. Hi John! My mother was a D and made my dad get rid of his shotgun. I tended D in 68 (except for the gun issue) but went R during the early Nixon years after seeing the Ds in Chicago. After Watergate I went American Independent and During the Carter years I went with Reagan. I have been R ever since. Michael Madigan wrote: No, not nice guys like Leland and I think Vince may be a Republican. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Vince Teachout wrote: My mother was a D and made my dad get rid of his shotgun. Hmm.. I'm a D, and I think everyone should own a shotgun or a rifle, or at the very least, know how to safely store, clean, and shoot them. (just butting in - sorry) You and Leland. You at least *WERE* an R, maybe the gun heritage comes from thence. Or from hunting with my dad. Or from not trusting our government :-) Hi Vince! But Obama is going to save you from your own evil instincts . . . -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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John wrote: Being from the south, and having a family where all the men, and a few of the women, hunted, guns were just a part of life. Then the fact that my dad, three uncles, three cousins, and both brothers were cops, guns have always been around. Nobody ever got kilt either. Hi John! Might be easier to draw from a thigh holster . . . risque video http://www.utilikilts.com/ -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
