Re: [PEDA] Altera 144Pin TQFP Landing Pattern

2001-09-07 Thread Brian Guralnick
Playing with the electrical grid so that it's 125% of the regular grid works great for me. I always seem to catch the center of the pins this way even when I have an Imperial grid board with these metric TQFPs. Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: "Jon Elson" <[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Altera 144Pin TQFP Landing Pattern

2001-09-07 Thread Ted Tontis
You can set the grid in the lib. to be metric and when done adjusting the part switch it to a imperial grid and save it. The translation is made when you switch the grids. Ted -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:17 PM To: Prote

Re: [PEDA] Altera 144Pin TQFP Landing Pattern

2001-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All, > Thanks for responding. It looks like I have several paths to explore. > > 1. I was able to get IPC's website footprint generation tool to spit out a > footprint. > 2. Brian Gurlanick's QFP generator. > 3. Michael Scmitt provided a footprint he uses for the Alt

Re: [PEDA] what changed

2001-09-07 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Off topic: Sorry I can't reply, off topic, off topic subject is off topic. Late, Jeff Adolphs -Original Message- From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:47 AM To: Protel Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] what changed Besides me does anyone el

Re: [PEDA] Diode pads

2001-09-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:50 PM 9/6/01 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: >I wasn't really in need of support but >it seems that my comments made people see red to the point where they failed >to appreciate the context of my statements. Speaking for myself, I did not feel any anger, I merely expressed my thoughts on the s

Re: [PEDA] Diode pads

2001-09-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:09 AM 9/7/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Does anyone else have this problem >and have you found a work around other than the test Engineer changing the >pad designators globally. Changing the pads works, but there is a risk that >the file could leak out of his dept and into the released

Re: [PEDA] Mill-Max PLCC68 socket 940-99-068-24-000000

2001-09-07 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Ted, Thank You! Yes, a through hole with 2 rows of pins for all 4 sides. I have asked Mill-Max for a sample, which I should be able to see the connections to the Cypress part. Jeff -Original Message- From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:43 PM To

Re: [PEDA] Mill-Max PLCC68 socket 940-99-068-24-000000

2001-09-07 Thread Ted Tontis
The part is a through hole correct? and has a 2 rows of pins for all 4 sides. If you have a ohm meter and a sample part, ohm it out. The pin 1 location on the socket should have a mark on it for pin 1. If you don't have a sample I would call Mil-Max directly. Regards, Ted -Original Message-

Re: [PEDA] Mill-Max PLCC68 socket 940-99-068-24-000000

2001-09-07 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Brad, Excellent point. I am using Cypress CY7C144 68-pin PLCC which I know the numbering of, but I don't know how the IC socket changes the single row into the dual row pattern. I will have to get the socket to find out. Thank You! Jeff -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[E

Re: [PEDA] Mill-Max PLCC68 socket 940-99-068-24-000000

2001-09-07 Thread Brad Velander
Jeff, here is my thought. Isn't the answer to that question dependant on the device that you plug into it? If you plug in a device and it is numbered A/B/C/D, does it make sense that the mating Mill-Max connector pins might be numbered W/X/Y/Z? If they aren't numbered the same then you nee

[PEDA] Mill-Max PLCC68 socket 940-99-068-24-000000

2001-09-07 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Good Day! Anyone know the pin numbering of Mill-Max PLCC68 socket 940-99-068-24-00 ? The Mill-Max PCB Layout does not show the pin numbering and I do not have a sample part. Have a good weekend! Regards, Jeff Adolphs Lake Shore Cryotronics, Inc. Off-topic: Did you have a good week? My wife

Re: [PEDA] what changed

2001-09-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:46 AM 9/7/01 -0500, Ted Tontis wrote: > Besides me does anyone else think that it is strange that the forum >administrator is cracking down on what he/she believes to be off topic? This >was never an issue before, so why now? The Forum Administrator has periodically posted notices t

Re: [PEDA] what changed

2001-09-07 Thread Kathy Quinlan
I would have thought a quick sorry / ooopppsss we / our ISP had a stuff up etc post would have be nice, sort of to add closure to a problem we were seeing, and let us know it is fixed :o( Regards, Kat. The informatio

Re: [PEDA] Altera 144Pin TQFP Landing Pattern

2001-09-07 Thread Brian Guralnick
You could try making a footprint with my footprint generator in imperial mode. The problem here is that Altera only specifies Metric & obviously, the pin-pin spacing still doesn't fall on every mil. Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel

Re: [PEDA] Diode pads

2001-09-07 Thread lloyd . good
Now that we've finished bashing Brad, let's all have a group hug...yeeuck! I'm not too concerned how many use the 123 method though it seems the EBC AK is the majority. My original question was whether anyone else has a problem with CAE software and the EBC method. This CBtest part of GENRad seem

[PEDA] what changed

2001-09-07 Thread Ted Tontis
Besides me does anyone else think that it is strange that the forum administrator is cracking down on what he/she believes to be off topic? This was never an issue before, so why now? Who is the forum admin? is it Protel/Altium? or is it some other EDA co. The message sent buy Mr. Potapoff

Re: [PEDA] Altera 144Pin TQFP Landing Pattern

2001-09-07 Thread Andy Gulliver
Whilst manual routes will happily snap to any pad centres, the Protel autorouter isn't too happy about anything off a 1-mil grid. It tends to put a number of small track segments converging on the pad centre, which you'll probably want to tidy up - this takes more time than converting the metric

[PEDA] Re[2]: Moderator action required for proteledaforum@techservinc.com

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