Re: [PEDA] Importing OrCAD Netlists into a Protel 99SE layout..

2003-09-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:30 PM 9/11/2003, you wrote: IMNSHO, protel and other cad packages went a long way backwards when they moved away from text formats. One of the nice features of Protel is that the PCB ASCII file format is self-documenting. You don't need a manual to read it, though sometimes you might need t

Re: [PEDA] Importing OrCAD Netlists into a Protel 99SE layout..

2003-09-11 Thread Matt . VanDeWerken
IMNSHO, protel and other cad packages went a long way backwards when they moved away from text formats. Sure, binary might be smaller, and harder to reverse-engineer, but there's nothing like being able to run a design through a shell script and being able to change numerous values. Scripting langu

Re: [PEDA] Importing other netlists into a Protel 99SE layout..

2003-09-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:28 PM 9/11/2003, Harry Selfridge wrote: If you have the schematic, you need to convert the DOS (SDT) schematic and libraries to a newer format. See the Protel knowledge base for the steps to take. If you have them, fine. But often all you have is an old net list. If you are trying to brin

Re: [PEDA] Advanced Schematic on Win2k?

2003-09-11 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:58 AM 12/09/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support said: > Well ... 32-bit software is 65536 times as good as 16-bit software isn't > it? Altium should be charging you $131 Million to upgrade. 32-bit software can also contain 65536 times as many bugs, right? ;-) I thought bugs is what we paid for.

[PEDA] Importing OrCAD Netlists into a Protel 99SE layout..

2003-09-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:46 AM 9/11/2003, Website Visitor wrote: I been digging in the docs and trying experiments to try to get an old old Orcad netlist into my copy of Protel 99SE so at the least I can do the layout changes and not pay someone else to.. My only conclusion is that I will have to manually reforma

Re: [PEDA] Advanced Schematic on Win2k?

2003-09-11 Thread Brian Guralnick
> > Well ... 32-bit software is 65536 times as good as 16-bit software isn't > > it? Altium should be charging you $131 Million to upgrade. > > 32-bit software can also contain 65536 times as many bugs, right? ;-) > > Oh, boy, I can hardly wait for the 64-bit software coming soon! By your > stan

Re: [PEDA] License Legalities OT

2003-09-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:38 PM 9/10/2003, you wrote: I guess I was referring to those who just want to rip-off, or copy, someone else's design. In a sense, I did find it funny when someone comes to me asking me to replicate someone else's design, and it happens to be 1 of my own PCB designs. It's happened more

Re: [PEDA] Importing other netlists into a Protel 99SE layout..

2003-09-11 Thread Harry Selfridge
If you have the schematic, you need to convert the DOS (SDT) schematic and libraries to a newer format. See the Protel knowledge base for the steps to take. If you are trying to bring a raw ORCAD netlist into Protel99SE PCB, you aren't going to be able to do it. If you think about it for a mi

Re: [PEDA] vector180w@netscape.net

2003-09-11 Thread Harry Selfridge
I can think of four easy things to try right-off-the-bat. First - It has been my experience that failure of DXP to display an imported .dwg or .dxf file is most often due to negative coordinate elements in the drawing you are trying to import. Be sure that the zero reference for the drawing is

[PEDA] Importing other netlists into a Protel 99SE layout..

2003-09-11 Thread Website Visitor
Hi there, I been digging in the docs and trying experiments to try to get an old old Orcad netlist into my copy of Protel 99SE so at the least I can do the layout changes and not pay someone else to.. My only conclusion is that I will have to manually reformat it by hand to a Protel or Protel2

[PEDA] vector180w@netscape.net

2003-09-11 Thread Website Visitor
Im trying to get a PCB to fit the internals of an 165x85x55 IP65 box.(its not just a rectangle) The size shape and mounting holes are allready available to me in corel draw. I have tried exporting from CD as dwg and importing to DXp with no luck(nothing seen on screen).I find DXPs CAD for making

Re: [PEDA] Advanced Schematic on Win2k?

2003-09-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Well ... 32-bit software is 65536 times as good as 16-bit software isn't > it? Altium should be charging you $131 Million to upgrade. 32-bit software can also contain 65536 times as many bugs, right? ;-) Oh, boy, I can hardly wait for the 64-bit software coming soon! By your standard, to upg

Re: [PEDA] Board fabricator in UK/EU

2003-09-11 Thread Jason Morgan
I've used a Aluminium/Ceramic/Copper substrate before. I think one brand is ThermalClad. This should meet your dimensional stability, and you can choose any metal substrate, e.g.. spring steel or aluminium, this should give you the strength you need. http://www.bergquistcompany.com/objects/Tclad_S

Re: [PEDA] Board fabricator in UK/EU

2003-09-11 Thread John A. Ross [Design]
> -Original Message- > From: Stephen Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:50 PM > To: Protel forum > Subject: [PEDA] Board fabricator in UK/EU > > > Hello, > > I have a requirement for a slightly unusual PCB. Does anybody > (preferably in the UK) know

Re: [PEDA] Board fabricator in UK/EU

2003-09-11 Thread Steve Wiseman
11/09/2003 12:50:03, "Stephen Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a requirement for a slightly unusual PCB. Does anybody (preferably in >the UK) know of a fab house who could make something with these >specifications?: These are an odd set of specs - that looks like a candidate for flex

Re: [PEDA] Board fabricator in UK/EU

2003-09-11 Thread Buckley.Dave
Steve, Have you tried any of the PCB manufacturers on Premiers (Protel UK distributor)web site? http://www.eda.co.uk/servProv.html#PCBManufacturing Regards, Dave -Original Message- From: Stephen Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2003 12:50 To: Protel forum Subject: [PE

[PEDA] Board fabricator in UK/EU

2003-09-11 Thread Stephen Casey
Hello, I have a requirement for a slightly unusual PCB. Does anybody (preferably in the UK) know of a fab house who could make something with these specifications?: (1) 0.3 mm thick substrate. (2) Double sided. (3) Approx 10x0.4mm dia plated through holes. (4) Small size ~6x6mm. (5) Fairly comple